[00:44] ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov) [04:09] Riddell: Did you answer my questions? [04:30] Riddell: I see you did. Approved. [06:14] Good morning. [08:54] Riddell: I just requested a new review of my testcase patch. Had been in Qt-Gerrit for 6 days... I'll be on holiday from next week until 25.5. with limited internet access. [08:56] Riddell: Is there a "list of bullet points", which I can use to describe the impact, test case and regression potential for the qt4 bug? [08:57] Riddell: Should I add my analysis to the bug report? [09:08] jmux: "it'll cause a crash always/sometimes/rarely" would be the impact [09:09] jmux: "you can cause the crash by doing ..., after the patch this will no longer crash" is [09:10] jmux: "this patch is a work of perfection and will cause no issues because it is fully covered by test cases" is regression potential [09:15] jmux: cripes, nice long holiday. enjoy! [09:43] yay, bug 1291899 approved, up goes 4.13! [09:43] bug 1291899 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze exception for KDE SC 4.13" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291899 [09:58] Riddell: Ok - a first proposal http://paste.debian.net/88514/. I'm in a longer meeting now, so don't expect any replies in the next hours. I'll read the backlog. [10:12] baloo is such a strangely named piece of SW. it feels.... unfinished :D [10:20] jussi: just because of the name? [10:20] (which isn't user visible) [10:21] jussi: could you please elaborate? [10:21] yes, just the name [10:21] phew, okay :) [10:21] thts why I sid strangely named [10:23] jussi: compared to nepomuk it offers the bare necessities of desktop search :) [10:23] ScottK: ubuntu-sru love needed on bug 1290514 [10:23] bug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 [10:24] jmux: thanks, added those to the bug and now it need approved by the stable release update team, then it can go into -proposed where we need to test it then a week later it can go into -updates [10:54] can we include the kdnssd rename in our FFe now that 4.13 was uploaded? [10:55] yofel: it hasn't been uploaded yet, what's changed? [10:56] 4.13 FFe includes everything until 4.13 gets released in my opinion [10:56] well, as albert said on packagers, kdnssd will have a new tarball name probably now that the repo was renamed [10:56] should be a trivial replacement though [10:58] hmm didn't realise that covered 4.13 too but yeah that should be fine [11:27] "Morning [12:46] there we go again, Plasma desktop has everything completely black with the latest kernel, previous one works [12:47] I only see the windows border and the plasma panel, everything else is black [12:47] including the windows content [12:48] the kernel with problem si 3.13.0-17, 64 bit system [12:48] is* [12:49] Mamarok, use xrender and native for composting and Qt, that might help [12:49] why do I have to change that when it worked before? That makes no sense, and it depends on the kernel [12:49] and I made a typo, the one that doesn't work is the -18 [12:52] Mamarok, i haven't tried to analyze , but it looks like it's a kde problem [12:52] or kwin even [12:54] * yofel has that on his notebook sometimes, resetting the compositing usually helps [12:54] I blame nvidia usually [12:56] yofel, I had the same symptoms on this intel gpu, no nvidia here, aamof my old desktop runs nvidia gpu and doesn't have the same blanking/black problems on 14 04 [12:57] as this laptop [13:24] ::qt-bugs:: [1289600] Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 (by Alexey Borzenkov) [13:24] ::qt-bugs:: [1290514] LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 (by Jan-Marek Glogowski) [13:39] shadeslayer_! how's the GPU? [13:41] still broken [13:41] though I have the spare machine setup [13:42] :( [13:42] I'm expecting a call from Apple at 3 [13:42] and turns out many other people have the same issue [13:42] Riddell: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/16/owners-of-late-2011-macbook-pros-report-critical-gpu-failures-system-crashes [13:43] boom [13:43] I'm press harder for a replacement now [13:43] instead of a repair [13:44] since a repair will probably only paper over the problem [13:44] Aren't you glad you paid extra for high quality hardware. [13:45] shadeslayer_: my condolences for the gpu :P [13:45] do you still need kdeconnect btw.? I didn't get to it yesterday? [13:45] well, I'll be glad if they replace the machine with a new one :P [13:45] yofel: it's alright, I can do it now that I have my gpg keys on this machine [13:45] ok [13:46] it's annoying how this is pretty much the exact same issue as my Dell, GPU failiure [13:46] * Riddell hugs his thinkpad [13:47] FWIW, my old R61 did get its GPU replaced once, so that seems to be a general issue :S [13:48] hm [13:48] this desktop seems to have corruption too [13:48] yay [13:48] <- GPU breaker [13:48] you should get a job as hardware tester :P [13:49] http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/19/plasma-desktopkh2108.png [13:50] http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/19/plasma-desktopUR2108.png [13:53] still [13:53] here :) [13:54] shadeslayer_: if that's a screenshot then that's not the GPU.. [13:55] mhmm [13:55] mesa bug [14:21] poor mesa [14:22] shadeslayer_: also you keep having GPU issues because you keep buying laptops with dedicated GPUs [14:22] * apachelogger did that exactly once [14:24] shadeslayer_: debian seems to have ported to eigen 3 by adding a patch to each app which uses it and sending none upstream [14:25] * apachelogger falls off chair [14:26] apachelogger: don't all laptops have dedicated GPUs? [14:26] Riddell: I mean the opposite of onboard gpus, whatever one calls that [14:27] do I make a trello card for 14.04 to send debian's eigen 3 patches upstream? [14:28] I'd ask first why they didn't upstream them. Who did the patches? [14:28] ScottK: ah no I'm being unfair, they're on reviewboard, I was looking at bugs.kde.org [14:29] https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116611/ for calligra [14:29] Ah. That's better. [14:29] still under discussion [14:29] Riddell: you tell debian to sned debian's patches upstream I say [14:29] kalzium is up https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116638/ [14:29] Riddell: also, what I actually meant was gpus that require dedicated cooling xD [14:29] all laptop gpus are onboard I think ^^ [14:44] apachelogger: they are [14:44] so, Apple is going to replace the logic board one more time [14:45] then they'll replace the laptop [14:47] > Ubuntu Now Runs Well On The MacBook Air, Beats OS X In Graphics [14:47] shadeslayer_: you should have gotten a macbook air [14:48] that also has the sane kind of gpu :P [14:57] heh [15:14] 15:01 < maxy> Riddell: If you have the time go ahead and push them (ideally marking the patches as forwarded) [15:14] eigen 3 patches for the upstreaming [15:14] apachelogger: does that deserve a trello card? [15:16] Based on the calligra review board, there's some testing needed too. [15:28] Riddell: if you want to work on that [15:29] anything you want to track progress on or be reminded of doing is worth a card ;) [16:33] vHanda: does baloo require the same amount of inotify watches as nepomuk? [16:33] yes [16:33] k [18:24] vHanda: do nepomuk-core and nepomuk-widgets still provide something useful when nepomuk is removed from kde-runtime? (i.e. can I drop them from the dependencies of the other packages) [18:26] yofel: we still need nepomuk-core for the baloo migrator at least [18:27] nepomuk-core-runtime as well? I want to drop that from kde-runtime, so if baloo needs it it should depend on it [18:30] /usr/bin/nepomukmigrator [18:30] is in need nepomuk-core for the baloo migrator at least [18:30] meh [18:30] it's in nepomuk-core-runtime [18:30] although it can be moved if we want [18:30] ok [18:30] nah, it's fine if it's there [18:31] but nothing needs to depend on it [18:31] except PMC [18:33] so I can e.g. remove "Build-Depends: libnepomukwidgets-dev, nepomuk-core-dev" from kdepim and kde-baseapps? [18:36] yeah I think so [18:42] bad Riddell for not updating bzr when he updated quassel (fixed it for you). === jackson is now known as Guest40265 === Guest40265 is now known as Noskcaj [19:05] Riddell: still about? [19:10] jussi: yo === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U [19:40] feedback about 4.13 so far: I would vote for shipping it [19:40] Broken features: querying ratings in dolphin advanced search [19:41] quering tags in dolphin sidepanel (by clicking on the tag) [19:41] timeline... (I am not sure exactly what it does ... but its not correct in my case) [19:43] if you go to tags:// you get a very weird overview of the tags ... a tag has all other tags in his subcategory ..., folders shown under each tag are not entirely correct ... [19:44] xattr information is correct though in all cases ... [19:45] so the semantic features accessible from dolphin would definitely need some love ... [19:45] the performance is amazing though ... [19:46] Riddell: do you have an idea when I can reach vHanda on IRC (to which time UTC?) [21:07] hey ovidiu-florin_ [23:32] hmm circular dependencies in the compiling, I thought I'd fixed those, maybe I forgot to push them [23:32] kdepimlibs shouldn't depend on nepomuk