[00:01] <pramiti> it requires compilation of  kdepim, kdepimlibs, akonadi, and baloo from master.
[00:01] <ikonia> kmail is just a mail app - gsoc is totally different
[00:01] <pramiti> can u tell me how to proceed next ?
[00:01] <ikonia> proceed with what ?
[00:02] <valorie> pramiti: GSoc is not suitable for beginners, no
[00:02] <pramiti> after building environment, how should i start debugging..
[00:02] <valorie> pramiti: http://blogs.fsfe.org/myriam/2013/04/15/so-you-want-to-be-a-summer-of-code-student/
[00:03] <ikonia> pramiti: debugging what ?
[00:03] <valorie> you will need a current kubuntu version, not Ubuntu anyway
[00:03]  * valorie goes off to dinner
[00:04] <pramiti> i want to work on this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329039
[00:04] <ikonia> ok, so what's stopping you ?
[00:04] <pramiti> it says relevant code is here baloo/src/file/metadatamover.cpp
[00:04] <pramiti> i cant find the source code
[00:05] <ikonia> you have to install the source package
[00:07] <pramiti> ikonia: i wanted to know. if i download the source and then made some changes. how will i run the appliacation again
[00:07] <pramiti> application*
[00:07] <ikonia> you'd have to rebuild it
[00:08] <pramiti> but i dont understand this.. sudo apt-get kdepim dont install the source code somewhere ?
[00:08] <pramiti> i have to individually download it from git ?
[00:09] <ikonia> no, thats the binary package
[00:09] <ikonia> apt-get source kdepim will download the source package
[00:09] <pramiti> okk.. then i will make changes in sorce package and build it ?
[03:20] <kyfella> Hey ya'll
[03:21] <kyfella> Was out most of the evening.  Doing some backups this evening.  Wow, this is a lotta junk to backup
[03:21] <kyfella> lordie, still working on that triple clicking issue in 13.10
[03:21] <kyfella> Once I get this junk backed up, I am going to wipe it out
[03:42] <kyfella> Any of you guys out there tonight
[03:51] <BleuzMan> hi all, i'm using kubuntu on a computer given to me, it already had it installed. , so anyway. when i click a check box it does not show any X or check in the box.. it's doing this on all gui/de boxes. the boxes are recognized by the os as checked but it's not showing it as so on the screen
[03:51] <BleuzMan> does anyone have any ideas on how to fix that?
[04:50] <frogonwheels> BleuzMan: try a different theme?
[04:51] <frogonwheels> BleuzMan: sounds like a video card issue
[05:24] <alphacrypt> hey I made a full upgrade and got new kernels?
[05:24] <alphacrypt> but it makes a kernel panic at start?
[05:24] <alphacrypt> can I fix or remove it?
[05:42] <one> just downloaded a trojan
[05:42] <one> any way to get rid of it?
[05:43] <one> or do I just ride it?
[05:43] <one> yeeeeeeeeeeee!
[05:43] <one> white horseys everywhere
[05:44] <one> open a tunnel
[05:44] <rww> !antivirus
[05:44] <one> let me look at the digital maps of the new bird syztem
[05:45] <rww> !pony-#ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <one> White stallion
[05:46] <one> crack those death machines
[05:46] <one> show me!
[05:47] <one> show me the mappings
[05:48] <one> kmon cracker
[05:48] <one> this is the show me state
[05:48] <one> united state
[05:48] <one> kmon
[05:48] <one> show me the mappings
[05:49] <one> I've got a bunch of horses
[05:49] <one> kmon
[05:49] <one> show me the mappings
[05:49] <valorie> one: please stay on topic
[05:51] <one> whoa!
[05:51] <one> I said ok
[05:56] <one> if I plug in my eee
[05:57] <one> does someone on here want to ssh in and put the software on
[05:57] <one> eee no surrendur
[05:59] <valorie> what software, one?
[05:59] <one> well if it has to be 'ontopic' Kubuntu
[06:00] <valorie> you can install software yourself, using either the gui or the commandline
[06:00] <one> I have other requests though
[06:00] <valorie> you were already told the name of the offtopic channel by rww
[06:00] <one> I want HNS
[06:00] <one> true HNS
[06:01] <one> not this second edition stuff where something keeps editing things
[06:02] <rww> what is an HNS?
[06:02] <rww> oh, you moved, nvm
[06:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:15] <alphacrypt> hey
[06:15] <alphacrypt> how to start something in background, like dolphin sudo in terminal, & behind and nothing happens
[06:16] <lordievader> alphacrypt: Putting an & behind a command usually works. An alternative is hitting ctrl+z and then typing bg<enter>.
[06:17] <alphacrypt> lets try
[06:17] <alphacrypt> nice it works
[06:18] <alphacrypt> & way will not work with sudo dolphin somehow?
[06:19] <lordievader> alphacrypt: Also it is a good idea to use 'kdesudo' for gui apps in KDE.
[06:19] <alphacrypt> ok
[06:19] <lordievader> If you want to run them as root, that is.
[06:19] <alphacrypt> but there its the same problem?
[06:20] <alphacrypt> would like to be able to use the terminal window not to have it in query as "logwindow"
[06:20] <lordievader> Don't know. Rarely start Dolphin from the terminal, starting it as root is even more rare for me.
[06:20] <alphacrypt> ok
[06:20] <lordievader> ls and cd is a good enough filebrowser for me :)
[06:21] <alphacrypt> youre linuxuser as it should be :D
[06:21] <lordievader> ;)
[06:37] <alphacrypt> hey guys got new kernels and it just panics
[06:38] <valorie> alphacrypt: are you using the beta?
[06:38] <alphacrypt> 13.10
[06:39] <valorie> hmmm
[06:39] <valorie> please file a bug
[06:39] <alphacrypt> how to do?
[06:39] <valorie> sounds serious
[06:39] <alphacrypt> using older kernel
[06:39] <valorie> !bug
[06:39] <valorie> this will be an ubuntu-bug
[06:39] <valorie> not KDE
[06:40] <alphacrypt> maybe I use the wrong saying
[06:40] <valorie> no, I get what you are saying
[06:40] <alphacrypt> if I boot it I got stucked log and there stands something like panic but I am not that good
[06:40] <alphacrypt> ok
[06:40] <lordievader> alphacrypt: What kernel version are you trying to boot?
[06:40] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic
[06:40] <alphacrypt> how to get it to know
[06:40] <alphacrypt> !info linux-image-generic
[06:40] <lordievader> alphacrypt: You can see in grub.
[06:41] <alphacrypt> yes
[06:41] <alphacrypt> on runningsystem
[06:41] <lordievader> Current for Saucy is 3.11.0.18.19
[06:41] <alphacrypt> otherwise wanna type it down
[06:41] <alphacrypt> yes that ones
[06:41] <alphacrypt> should be 19 have also 18 as seperate but I'm not sure with that
[06:42] <lordievader> alphacrypt: Hmm, 3.11.0.18 works here. But like valorie says, file a bug.
[06:45] <alphacrypt> ok /var/log/kern.log there it should be right
[06:45] <alphacrypt> but its always the most current one?
[06:45] <alphacrypt> so I need to get the error and then just backup the file?
[06:49] <alphacrypt> ohhh
[06:49] <alphacrypt> there are lot of different ones see it because of timestamps
[06:49] <lordievader> Err, it might be that he automatically makes it kern.log.1, but that might also be logrotate's doing.
[06:50] <alphacrypt> yes there are lot more files with numbers
[06:50] <alphacrypt> ok I search for panic
[06:50] <alphacrypt> hmm
[06:50] <alphacrypt> no
[06:51] <alphacrypt> its fine, have to note the error down and make find... in terminal something like that?
[06:51] <alphacrypt> grep?
[06:51] <alphacrypt> lets try that
[06:55] <lordievader> When it panics it will not be able to write to the log (probably)
[07:29] <alphacrypt> it would help to know if the kernel would be replaced?
[07:30] <alphacrypt> so now got the problem and won't use that one but will it be sometime resolved or can I update it?
[07:37] <valorie> alphacrypt: to discuss the matter directly with the devels who work on the k/ubuntu kernel, try #ubuntu-kernel
[07:37] <valorie> very friendly folks there
[07:37] <alphacrypt> ok thanks
[08:24] <TuxMario> Hello, Have you any softwareto  recommand  for video recording of the desktop ? Thanks
[08:27] <valorie> TuxMario: muon discover doesn't show you anything cool?
[08:28] <lordievader> TuxMario: "apt-cache search desktop record" shows quite a few things. Not sure if there is anything good in there though.
[08:29] <valorie> what's nice about discover is the ratings and reviews
[08:43] <TuxMario> Valorie: I didn't know Muon Discover. Usefull ! I already tested recordmydesktop but Kazam is recommanded (5 stars) I'll have a look. Thanks
[08:45] <valorie> TuxMario: as of 14.04 it will be our default software center
[08:46] <valorie> developed by our own kubuntu guys
[08:47] <TuxMario> Lordievade: Thanks for this command even if answers are not very interresting this time
[08:59] <valorie> apt-cache search is useful for a lot of stuff
[09:13] <TuxMario> Valorie: Muon Discover is very good. Congratulations to Kubuntu team! , apt-cache serach is now in my personnal FAQ. Bye
[09:13] <lordievader> TuxMario: Have fun :)
[10:38] <oscarr> hello
[10:38] <lordievader> Hey oscarr
[10:38] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[10:40] <oscarr> fine, but have problem. I did install kubuntu 13.10 on my ant`s notebook and now i have problem because she has many wma audio files, and she wants to burn them to cd. But there is issue - K3B crashes averytime when trying to add wma-file to project
[10:41] <oscarr> on my pc i have debian with kde and k3b works perfectly
[10:41] <lordievader> oscarr: Convert them to wav before burning with K3B?
[10:42] <oscarr> she is 60years old and before was on windows ... she need complex solution
[10:42] <oscarr> i have to repair k3b
[10:43] <oscarr> i know that its not k3b bug itself but its bug of avcodec library used in ubuntu
[10:44] <oscarr> its part of ffmpeg
[10:44] <lordievader> oscarr: File a bug then.
[10:44] <lordievader> Wasn't avcodec a fork of ffmpeg?
[10:44] <oscarr> that bug is known from 2011
[10:44] <oscarr> yes
[10:44] <oscarr> avcodec is fork of ffmpeg for ubuntu
[10:45] <oscarr> and the question is: how to change avcodec to real ffmpeg
[10:45] <oscarr> ?
[10:46] <lordievader> oscarr: ffmpeg is still in the repo, but I'm not sure if that will fix your problem.
[10:46] <lordievader> !info ffmpeg
[10:49] <oscarr> i have to try
[10:49] <lordievader> !info avcodec
[11:27] <BluesKaj> "Morning
[12:07] <Incertus> can anyone help me with this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=224&t=120157 ?
[12:48] <daddy> hi
[12:59] <DaveInFL> Good morning, hoping that someone can help me out.  I just installed v13 of Kubuntu and when it boots and gets to the login screen both the keyboard and mouse are not working.  When the PC boots I am able to get into the BIOS, so I know that the keyboard is working just fine, and it (and the mouse) were both fine during installation.
[12:59] <DaveInFL> I can't do anything at all, not even trouble shoot since I can't log into the machine :(  Anyone ever come across this issue?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> DaveInFL, 13.04 or 13.10?
[13:00] <DaveInFL> The very latest I think...13.10
[13:01] <DaveInFL> Yes, 13.10, that was the only option available to download for 13.x. There wasn't a 13.04 version listed.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> the KB and mouse are usb ?
[13:02] <DaveInFL> Correct
[13:03] <DaveInFL> The mouse and keyboard go through a KVM switch, but was working just fine during installation.  I did try and plug the keyboard directly into the PC but same issue.  Hard to tell if it's just the keyboard/mouse that are not working or if the box has simply crashed!
[13:04] <DaveInFL> Also, it was the 64bit version of Kubuntu that I downloaded
[13:06] <BluesKaj> DaveInFL, try the recovery kernel in grub and if your KB is till working choose "repair broken packages" in the dialog
[13:07] <DaveInFL> I don't even see a grub screen when it boots up! I see the screen that lets me get into the BIOS, and then the screen goes black and the next thing I see is the graphical login screen.
[13:08] <DaveInFL> Sounds like something is wrong and it's not the keyboard/mouse.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> hold the left shift key down after the bios screen to get grub
[13:09] <DaveInFL> Ok, let me give that a try..thanks.
[13:12] <DaveInFL> Ok, just booted to the recovery kernel and a screen comes up with options like: resume, clean, dkpg, etc.  However, cursor keys not working! Very wierd
[13:13] <BluesKaj> could be an ACPI problem, hardware discovery
[13:16] <DaveInFL> No idea...like I said, mouse/keyboard worked just fine during install process!
[13:16] <DaveInFL> I've installed a few different kinds of Linux on this PC and this is the first time I am seeing something like this.  Perhaps I will try version 12.04 and see how that reacts.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> you may need to reinstall with the KB and mouse directly connected, but that's just a guess...I've seen hardware recognition problems before but not after the logibn page loads
[13:20] <DaveInFL> All the other flavours of Linux I have installed I have left the keyboard/mouse in the KVM.  Ok, will give it another try with version 12.04 and see...otherwise I guess I will have to find another flavour of Linux.  Thanks for your help.
[13:34] <__Roey> hi all
[13:34] <__Roey> BluesKaj:  hey!
[13:34] <__Roey> I have trouble hearing sound on my work PC
[13:34] <__Roey> alsamixer shows everything at 100% though
[13:36] <BluesKaj> __Roey,  is the automute enabled in alsamixer ? and which audio chip ?
[13:40] <__Roey> BluesKaj:  82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controlle
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hmm, __Roey, cat /proc/asound/modules
[13:43] <__Roey>  0 snd_hda_intel
[13:43] <__Roey>  1 snd_usb_audio
[13:43] <__Roey>  2 snd_hda_intel
[13:45] <BluesKaj> __Roey, then run that command I gave you the other day, the intel driver isn't loading, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[13:46] <BluesKaj> it's listed as card 0, which correct but's not loading due to that bug with intel audio drivers after updates/upgrades etc
[13:46] <miraiE> hi everyone, I wanna make package for plasma widegt, I've found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2009-06-18 and it's what I want to do, but I can't find the debian/* example files. where else I can find such tutorial?
[13:47] <__Roey> BluesKaj:  it's loaded
[13:47] <__Roey> BluesKaj:  snd_hda_intel          52267  6
[13:47] <__Roey> BluesKaj:  what was the command, which one?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[13:48] <__Roey> yeah that just returns back to the command prompt without outputting anything
[13:48] <BluesKaj> and a reboot might be needed
[13:48] <__Roey> I do lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel, and I see it is loaded
[13:48] <__Roey> BluesKaj:  ahhh that's right
[13:48] <__Roey> just like my system at home
[13:49] <BluesKaj> yes when there's no output that means the driver is loaded correctly, othewise there would be an error
[13:50] <EvilRoey> aye okay.
[13:50] <EvilRoey> So I will try seeing if rebooting fixes the issue
[14:12] <yossarianuk> hi - is kde 4.13 still being planned to be used for 14.04 ?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, I think so because we're running 4.12.90 on 14.04 here
[14:16] <yossarianuk> good stuff !
[14:16] <yossarianuk> will save having to add the ppa to get it....
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yeah Final Release is less than a month away
[14:19] <BluesKaj> for 14.04
[14:24] <yossarianuk> well 4.12 on 13.10 is very nice
[15:01] <Guillem_> Is there any way of telling kwin not to use the full screen size?
[15:01] <yossarianuk> Guillem_: sorry what do you mean ?
[15:03] <Guillem_> I've a laptop which current nvidia drivers don' t allow resolutions other than 1920x1080
[15:03] <Guillem_> this is painful when connecting a beamer to make presentations
[15:04] <pruebassdetodo_> .
[15:04] <pruebassdetodo_> .
[15:04] <Guillem_> nvidia driver, whoever lets me choose 1024x748(Scaled) but when I do that, desktop is clipped but dimensions are still 1920x1080 (maximized windows, for instance go larger than the view)
[15:05] <pruebassdetodo> .
[15:05] <Guillem_> mwm, xfwm and compiz honor the new size
[15:05] <pruebassdetodo_> .
[15:05] <Guillem_> metacity, mutter and kwin do not
[15:06] <Guillem_> question is, if there is any way to tell kwin, "hey, just use a portion of the available space"
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, which nvidia driver are you using?
[15:15] <Guillem_> 319.60
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Guillem_,ok which kubuntu version ?
[15:18] <Guillem_> 13.10
[15:18] <Guillem_> at 12.04 I could not do the (scaled) thing. The (scaled) thing plays with viewportin, viewportout and paning
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, then youi should be using the 331 driver, it should be available in additional drivers
[15:23] <Guillem_> BluesKaj:  I can only choose between 304 and 319
[15:27] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, have you updated/upgraded lately?
[15:27] <Guillem_> not very lately but well after 13.10 release itself
[15:28] <DaveInFL> Morning all. Not sure who was helping me earlier with the keyboard/mouse issue but I installed 13.10 32-but and that seemed to work fine.  Now I am up and running with Kubuntu, mouse and keyboard working :)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, suggest you do so and dist-upgrade as well
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, that will bring in the latest versions of kde/kwin for your OS
[15:30] <DaveInFL> Coming from Mandriva/Mageia will take some getting used too and one thing I seem to be missing right now is the entire system settings, aka, control panel for windows.  With Mageia it was all centralised and easy to navigate around.  Under Kubuntu I am having a hard time trying to find (gui) where I can change the network settings so that I force the system to a static IP address and not use DHCP.. I can't find where to do that.
[15:30] <DaveInFL> Under system settings there is an internet section but nothing that will let me change from DHCP to static, unless I am completely missing something.
[15:34] <Guillem_> BluesKaj: but 331 is not in the 13.10 repositories, is it?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, it should be
[15:36] <BluesKaj> DaveInFL, this tut is somewhat dated and there's one change needed for /etc/resolv.conf path, it's been changed to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[15:36] <BluesKaj> DaveInFL, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[15:37] <yossarianuk> Guillem_: the most annoying thing about ubuntu (and its variants) is they don't have the latest nvidia driver
[15:37] <yossarianuk> they ship a version with known bugs in *fixed in later versions) and that don;t support the latest hardware in the name of 'stability'
[15:38] <yossarianuk> its not like they can fix the issues (its closes source..)
[15:38] <yossarianuk> *closed*
[15:38] <BluesKaj> DaveInFL, /etc/resolv.conf still exists but it's overwritten by /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[15:38] <yossarianuk> the latest nvidia driver (running on opensuse + arch) speeds up pretty much all openGL apps...
[15:39] <DaveInFL> BluesKaj, thanks for that, but shouldn't there be a GUI under system settings for this also?
[15:39] <Guillem_> As far as I check,  331 is not in the 13.10 repos nor in the upcoming 14.04
[15:39] <Guillem_> I should use a ppa (as xorg-edgers) to install it
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, if you update and dist-upgrade, the repos should make 331 available
[15:40] <yossarianuk> so the majority of ubuntu + variants are going to miss out on a fairly good speed up.....
[15:41] <BluesKaj> yos so what do you suggest Guillem_ do then ?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk,^
[15:44] <yossarianuk> http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-334-21-Drives-Brings-Significant-Performance-Improvements-for-OpenGL-Applications-430519.shtml
[15:45] <yossarianuk> well this is the issue really....
[15:45] <yossarianuk> There should be the latest package....
[15:45] <yossarianuk> when 14.04 is out - i'll maintain a PPA ......
[15:46] <yossarianuk> (don't like x-swat/xorg edgers) they have a habit of updating other packages also.
[15:47] <yossarianuk> you could install manually - but Ubuntu makes that hassle..
[15:47] <yossarianuk> i.e
[15:47] <yossarianuk> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-nvidia-driver-334-21-ubuntu-linux/
[15:47] <yossarianuk> (be aware you may have no X after a kernel update, etc).
[15:47] <Guillem_> https://launchpad.net/~joe-yasi/+archive/xorg-related/+build/5569509 ?
[15:48] <yossarianuk> there is this
[15:48] <yossarianuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1287753
[15:48] <yossarianuk> for gaming you want the driver.
[15:48] <yossarianuk> if you want to play steam games you want this driver....
[15:49] <yossarianuk> it should be the default.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, he's just looking for a decent resolution for his laptop, didn't mention gaming afaik
[15:50] <yossarianuk> ah - sorry to confuse the issue.
[15:51] <yossarianuk> Guillem_: you 'could' trythe manual install
[15:51] <BluesKaj> I might try the 334 driver on my desktop pc altho I have no graphics issue there atm
[15:51] <yossarianuk> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-nvidia-driver-334-21-ubuntu-linux/
[15:51] <DaveInFL> Another question.  When I do su - <password> it doesn't work.  Not sure why? Only password i
[15:51] <yossarianuk> Guillem_: have you got an xorg.conf?
[15:51] <DaveInFL>  have is my user password.  I didn't see anything during he install to set the root password
[15:52] <yossarianuk> DaveInFL: you need to set a root pass
[15:52] <yossarianuk> i.e
[15:52] <yossarianuk> do
[15:52] <yossarianuk> sudo passwd root
[15:52] <DaveInFL> Thanks
[15:52] <yossarianuk> create a pass - then  su -
[15:52] <DaveInFL> Got it..working now :)
[15:55] <Guillem_> btm I'm going to try 331 from ppa:ubuntu-xswat/x-updates
[15:55] <yossarianuk> ok
[15:55] <yossarianuk> if you still have no joy
[15:55] <BluesKaj> DaveInFL, afaik in order to keep your IP static network manager has to be removed
[15:55] <yossarianuk> try creating an xorg.conf.
[15:55] <Guillem_> I'dont want to install the driver manually... I love the automatic kernel module
[15:57]  * BluesKaj shrugs you shouldn't need a ppa to install the 331 driver
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Guillem_,^
[15:57] <BluesKaj> unless your nvidia card really old
[15:57] <BluesKaj> is
[15:58] <Guillem_> repos don't know about my card...
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, which card is it?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> err gpu
[15:59] <Guillem_> Quadro FX 1800M
[16:00]  * dougl googles Quadro FX 1800M
[16:02] <Guillem_> BluesKaj: I don't get it. It is at precise but not at saucy
[16:03] <Guillem_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+search?text=nvidia-331
[16:04] <Guillem_> vs
[16:04] <Guillem_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+search?text=nvidia-331
[16:05] <Guillem_> OK, I'm rebooting...
[16:08] <dougl> what is the issue with the 1800M?
[16:08] <dougl> no x or poor performance?
[16:09] <Guillem_> Same behaviour.
[16:10] <dougl> Guillem_, sorry what is the issue - not that I can help but am curious and joined late
[16:11] <rcw2> skype has been crashing a lot in Kubuntu 13.10... anyone know if the Kubuntu team is planning to invest more time to resolve the issues in the future, or are they focusing on something else instead
[16:16] <Guillem_> The problem is that my laptop monitor refuses to reduce the resolution. This is a pain when using a beamer, since I cannot do clone displays (laptop resolution is 1920x1080 much larger than typical beamers nowadays)
[16:17] <Guillem_> With nvidia-settings I can reduce the resolution by "scaling" which does sort of viewport manipulation. But, KDE does not adapt to such change.
[16:18] <Guillem_> Neither does GNOME (mutter/mecacity)
[16:18] <Guillem_> Compiz and XFCE do adapt to such change
[16:19] <Guillem_> Thus, I can workaround this by using XFCE (or XFCE+Compiz) when presenting.... just now I had switched to KDE and was confortable with it :P
[16:19] <dougl> and there ya have it :P
[16:19] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  hai
[16:20] <dougl> and just as I expected I am completely useless - lol
[16:20] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I'm getting mailed every few minutes with a message like "ERROR: creating snapshot toplevel/toplevel.20140319-1201 -> toplevel.20140319-1201 failed. File exists"  <-- this message comes from the backup script I've put in with crontab -e.  I don't understand why there are like 22 mails about this in root's mail.
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, what kind of connection to the beamer, hdmi or vga ?
[16:20] <Guillem_> Just explaining the problem is challenging :P
[16:20] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  is it repeating it? is it just re-mailing me agian and again?
[16:21] <EvilRoey> is it tryi ng to issue the command again?
[16:21] <EvilRoey> repeatedly?
[16:21] <Guillem_> BluesKaj: vga. However, I can change the resolution at the monitor which I use through a docking-station (not sure if that is VGA or hdmi)
[16:21] <dougl> Guillem_, yes... I can see that, that card is how old - I derived less than 5 years from my googling confusion?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, I have no clue , which command ?
[16:23] <Guillem_> hmm, perhaps less than 5 years  old I would guess
[16:23] <Guillem_> "xrandr --q1"  shows several modes, but xrandr only shows the nominal resolution one
[16:26] <dougl> Guillem_, and it is based on the gt2xx architecture... I would guess at using the driver for a 280 and wreck everything and re install... and be no further a head - hope that saves you some trouble.
[16:26] <Guillem_> and I'm seeing that "xrand --q1 -s 0 " (which is 1024x768) does swich to that resolution but KDE doesn't adapt to the resolution change either
[16:26]  * dougl hates resolution issues
[16:27] <dougl> ... aspect ratios in particular
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Guillem_, so essentially ytou're connecting to an outboard monitor, check the setting in system settings>display&monitor>display configuration with the beamer connected. There should be a second display option to set up the outboard resolution
[16:28] <Guillem_> BluesKaj: second monitor behaves just OK
[16:28] <Guillem_> BluesKaj: is just I cannot reduce first monitor resolution to match second monitor
[16:28]  * dougl wants to know what a beamer is?
[16:28] <Guillem_> projector
[16:28] <Guillem_> beamer==projector
[16:29] <dougl> ah!!! we are getting a new one at church
[16:29] <Guillem_> (I'm not a native speaker)
[16:29] <dougl> cant tell
[16:48] <BluesKaj> brb
[16:57] <dougl> Guillem_, what is the model of your beamer?
[16:57] <Guillem_> no idea
[17:42] <SvenOostenbrink> Hi there, on 13.10, since the last update which I applied yesterday, when the screen locks, I no longer see the unlock window asking me for my password. I only see the blue curves background wallpaper, thats it, and I can no longer unlock the laptop, I have to reboot.  Is this a known bug? Also, is there maybe a command line way that I could force unlock from there until there is a solution?
[18:56] <jmzc> hi
[18:56] <lordievader> Hey jmzc
[18:56] <bprompt> allo
[18:57] <jmzc> what is the best solution to reader-writer problem , with reader & writer running on different JVM ? I guess that I must lock the file, but I don't know if there is any better solution
[18:58] <lordievader> jmzc: I get the feeling this question is beter suited for #java
[18:58] <jmzc> lordievader: right ... it was my fault
[18:58] <lordievader> jmzc: Not to worrt ;)
[18:58] <lordievader> worry*
[18:59]  * bprompt hands jmzc  his #java with cream and cinnamon on top
[19:27] <windows> hello
[19:30] <bprompt> allo
[21:56] <Guest57108> anyone know the answer to this one?  I installed Kubuntu 13.10 and there is a darn bug with recognition of USB mouse and keyboard once you get to the LVM Encryption screen. It will work fine up to that point.  Anyone know how to use a live usb to mount an encrypted drive so I can make a modification to initramfs
[21:57] <Guest57108> bug is listed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[21:58] <Guest57108> ubottu, are you saying that that is supposed to be fixed?
[21:59] <jussi> Guest57108: ubottu is a bot :)
[21:59] <Guest57108> oh
[21:59] <jussi> but it appears to be fixed
[21:59] <Guest57108> well, in that case, here is the problem
[22:00] <Guest57108> If I install 13.10 64-bit with an encrypted LVM volume, and then reboot, I can't get the damn keyboard to work to type in an encryption password.  How then can I download the critical fixed patch? LOL
[22:00] <Guest57108> it appears to be a catch 22.  darned if you do, darned if you don't
[22:01] <Guest57108> Any ideas out there?
[22:02] <Guest57108> frankly, I would be willing to try anything at this point
[22:03] <Guest57108> Do I need to back down to 13.04 and then upgrade it?
[22:12] <jussi> Guest57108: there are several workarounds int that bug
[22:12] <Guest57108> what are they
[22:13] <jussi> Guest57108: with all due respect, please read the bug.
[22:19] <valorie> SvenOostenbrink: I don't see it either until the keyboard is used, then the login bit pops right up
[22:20] <valorie> does that not happen for you?
[22:22] <SvenOostenbrink> Nope.. I see it always right away and after this update, I dont ever see it again.. keyboard / mouse does nothing
[22:26] <danielNakata1984> hello every one
[22:44] <valorie> SvenOostenbrink: please file a bug -- you can do it from the konsole if you want, `ubuntu-bug lock-screen`
[22:44] <valorie> !bug | SvenOostenbrink
[22:45] <SvenOostenbrink> valorie: Will do, tks! Is there a way to unlock the screen from the command line, until this is finished? This way, at the very least, I won't have to reboot on every screenlock..
[22:47] <valorie> hmmm, that I don't know
[22:47] <valorie> you might ask that in the bug!
[22:47] <SvenOostenbrink> btw, I guess its ubuntu-bug lockout? "lock-screen" package doesnt exist
[22:47] <valorie> or perhaps `screensaver`
[22:48] <valorie> !info lockout
[22:48] <valorie> I don't think it's that
[22:48] <valorie> !info screensaver
[22:48] <valorie> pfff
[22:48] <SvenOostenbrink> screensaver doesn't seem to exist
[22:48] <SvenOostenbrink> ah, there you go :)
[22:50] <valorie> !info screenlock
[22:51] <valorie> try xscreensaver