[05:31] <pitti> Good morning
[07:52] <DanChapman> jibel \o/ there all green :-D
[07:52]  * elfy sets about fixing that ... 
[07:55] <DanChapman> morning elfy o/
[07:56] <elfy> hi DanChapman :)
[08:00] <jibel> Good morning
[08:00] <jibel> DanChapman, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Ubiquity/view/All/ is all green \o/
[08:01] <DanChapman> good morning jibel, \o/ \o/
[08:02]  * DanChapman thinks irc needs some dancing emoticons
[08:02] <DanChapman> jibel, thanks again for you help with it yesterday :-)
[08:03] <Yeitijem> Hi I'm a developer at SARAD. I want to test some .Net application using the new Mono version 3.x. How I can upgrade to the testing version of ubuntu?
[08:07] <jibel> DanChapman, thanks to you, you did most of the work.
[08:47] <pitti> Yeitijem: you can use "do-release-upgrade -d" for that
[08:47] <pitti> Yeitijem: however, in many cases it's safer (and even more convenient) to do that in a schroot, container, or VM
[08:47] <pitti> Yeitijem: for simple cases you can even just run a daily built ISO in QEMU
[08:47] <pitti> Yeitijem: (i. e. the live system)
[08:52] <Yeitijem> pitti: Thank you!
[08:57] <DanChapman> jibel grrr VNC failed to bind socket and has spoiled the green :-(
[09:01] <jibel> DanChapman, argh, re-running. port allocation must be more reliable. I'l fix that
[11:14] <davmor2> Morning all
[16:10] <DanChapman> hey balloons, hows the finger?
[16:11] <balloons> hey DanChapman ! I saw your post on the green stuff :-)
[16:11] <dkessel> ...balloons , DanChapman posted about your finger? ;)
[16:11] <balloons> The worst part of the finger is still black and red, the other parts I can see skin again with only the deep cuts showing
[16:12] <balloons> dkessel, I did.. Kind of a funny story I suppose, given the full background
[16:12] <dkessel> balloons: yeah i read it....
[16:12] <balloons> I like to kite, and it was a gutsy day and I was trying to be safe and not get hurt.. so being extra cautious and all, I slice my finger and never fly a kite :-)
[16:13] <DanChapman> balloons: yes indeed all green. It's a nice sight.
[16:13] <DanChapman> ouch still black!! sounds nasty
[16:14] <balloons> jibel, have you heard back from Paul on CI taking over the jenkins runs for ubiquity?
[16:14] <jibel> balloons, no, last I heard was that they wanted to have them all green, which is now the case
[16:15] <balloons> DanChapman, yea :-) But the feeling and movement is all back.. A couple more weeks I think :-)
[16:15] <balloons> jibel, right. Probably time to poke them again
[16:17] <jibel> balloons, yes, sounds like the right time. I'll add a comment on asana
[16:20] <jibel> balloons, done
[16:20] <balloons> excellent jibel. The other question is the desktop tests. I know we spoke briefly about the runner needing updated, etc
[16:22] <rvr> balloons: ping
[16:43] <jibel> balloons, what is the question? :)
[16:45] <balloons> jibel, sorry. I was saying for the autopilot tests for desktop apps, like rhythmnbox, gedit, etc
[16:46] <balloons> the end goal was to run those after images as well, and we have jenkins jobs for them, but I believe they need updated
[16:46] <balloons> let me find the link
[16:46] <jibel> balloons, ah right. To be honest it is at the very bottom of the stack :) But i'll try to have a look
[16:47] <balloons> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-ubuntu-applications/
[16:47] <balloons> jibel, yes I agree.. ubiquity first :-)
[16:47] <jibel> balloons, yeah, it is not like there is a release in a month.
[17:12] <elopio> balloons: my phone is now working, but I couldn't run the calendar tests. How are you deploying the tests? click-buddy?
[17:12] <balloons> elopio, yes via click-buddy
[17:13] <balloons> robotfuel, i saw https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix_1293489/+merge/211777
[17:30] <robotfuel> balloons: do you have anyway to run that on an n4 in ci?
[17:31] <robotfuel> balloons: can you review it for me? :)
[17:31] <balloons> robotfuel, I don't have such super powers.. why did you make the change?
[17:31] <balloons> as I said we did it with clock as well.. eds tends to take a bit to load @ times
[17:32] <robotfuel> balloons: to fix this failure http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/mako/239:20140317:20140304/7181/calendar_app/900407/
[17:33] <robotfuel> balloons: we need to make sure the main_view is loaded before we can verify that it's visible.
[17:33] <balloons> I approved the change, it makes sense, I was just surprised to see it
[17:34] <robotfuel> balloons: thanks!
[17:40] <jibel> robotfuel, another one if you have time https://bugs.launchpad.net/sudoku-app/+bug/1294770
[17:40] <robotfuel> jibel: sure
[18:10] <linuxgeek_> hey ubuntu-qa team, is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1012629 is fixed in precise 12.04.4. in the end, there is a note fixed in trusty
[18:11] <balloons> linuxgeek_, ?
[18:11] <linuxgeek_> balloons, i'm using preseed to install 12.04.4 and am hitting this error
[18:15] <davmor2> linuxgeek_: it doesn't say it is fixed in 12.04.4 so I guess not
[18:15] <linuxgeek_> davmor2, thanks. is there a way to get past this?
[18:16] <davmor2> linuxgeek_: I have no idea have you tried looking on askubuntu.com alternatively you can look at the fix and see if you can implement it on 12.04.4 or wait till it does land
[18:20] <linuxgeek_> davmor2, askubuntu does not have dicussion on this. the fix is patch - Cherrypick 1.92 changes: Adapt patch from Guilhem Moulin to always honor
[18:20] <linuxgeek_>     grub-installer/bootdev
[18:21] <linuxgeek_> davmor2, do you have idea if i can get this patch into 12.04.4 iso and how?
[18:21] <davmor2> linuxgeek_: nope
[18:22] <davmor2> linuxgeek_: it might be that the sru is reviewing it but it takes longer to land stuff in a release version of ubuntu
[18:24] <linuxgeek_> davmor2, do you know whom i can reach out to have this sorted as this is blocking the current thing i'm doing
[18:25] <davmor2> linuxgeek_: No sorry
[18:25] <linuxgeek_> davmor2, thanks for the time.
[19:46] <letozaf> balloons, hello
[19:47] <balloons> letozaf, hello
[19:48] <letozaf> balloons, I have some questions on reminders app on how to write some the test
[19:48] <letozaf> sorry write the tests
[19:48] <letozaf> balloons, I am now using my evernote account
[19:49] <letozaf> balloons, but I think that on Jenkins the tests are run on the testing evernote account
[19:49] <letozaf> balloons, and I also suppose that that account has no notes and notebooks, right _
[19:49] <letozaf> ?
[19:50] <robotfuel> om26er: have you seen apps crash when selecting tabs with autopilot?
[19:51] <om26er> robotfuel, yesterday I did, calendar app I believe
[19:51] <balloons> letozaf, yes.. We haven't crossed the mocking bridge again yet
[19:51] <balloons> but assume a blank account
[19:52] <letozaf> balloons, ok so on every test I will have to add a note or notebook before running tests on them, right ? just like rssreader more or less
[19:53] <balloons> robotfuel, om26er re: calendar failing on switch_to_tab, it happens with the app manually too. I have a mp in progress to revert the offending merge that broke things
[19:54] <robotfuel> balloons: do you have a link? I think I am seeing the same thing in the sudoku app
[19:54] <balloons> robotfuel, ohh the sudoku thing is different
[19:54] <balloons> emulator weirdness with tab length i believe
[19:54] <balloons> although again i don't see it locally
[19:55] <letozaf> balloons, what about rssreader app ? I also have an issue with tabs there, I have a couple of tests skipped for tab issues
[19:55] <om26er> ok, so no crash balloons  ?
[19:55] <balloons> rss reader app suffers from dynamic tabs not working in sdk.. there's a bug
[19:56] <balloons> letozaf, yes you will need to setup any notebooks we need. However, it might be wise for use to leave the account setup in a certain way.. not sure
[19:57] <balloons> om26er, ?
[19:57] <letozaf> balloons, in what way ?
[19:57] <balloons> letozaf, it might make sense to leave a notebook in the account and reference it in the tests
[19:57] <balloons> not sure.. but for now, don't do it that way
[19:58] <letozaf> balloons, so I will do it adding what I need to test, note or notebook, ok ?
[19:59] <balloons> letozaf, yep.. have the test create whatever it needs
[19:59] <balloons> and remove it when done :-)
[19:59] <letozaf> balloons, ok
[20:47] <dkessel> hm. interesting unity bug i have here today... can anybody confirm this: when pushing window to right side of screen so it fills half of the screen automatically, the window is one pixel too small... one pixel column of the background shines through
[20:47] <balloons> dkessel, i don;t have it, but I wonder if it's fallout from the clean borders
[20:48] <dkessel> balloons: possible. this is on a 1080p display. i don't know the sort of calculations involved in the window positioning....
[20:49] <balloons> I use window snapping ALOT, but yea, I've not see what u are speaking about
[20:49] <balloons> which app is it?
[20:50] <balloons> for instance gnome-terminal is horrible at snapping and leaves open edges
[20:50] <balloons> i guess it's the only one I've ever seen display oddly
[20:50] <dkessel> any app it seems. chrome, vlc, virtualbox, terminal...
[20:51] <dkessel> oh wait. thunderbird works correctly!
[20:51] <balloons> hehe
[20:51] <balloons> unity I'm assuming right?
[20:52] <dkessel> yup
[20:52] <balloons> btw dkessel ctrl+alt+numpad is amazing
[20:52] <dkessel> nautilus works, too
[20:52] <balloons> you can snap to middle and top as well if you enable them
[20:52] <dkessel> ...if you have a numpad i assume :)
[20:52] <balloons> wow.. you are missing out if you haven't snapped that way
[20:52] <balloons> it's brillant
[20:53] <robotfuel> bzoltan asked me to resync my optionselector autopilot emulator with trunk again, hopefully it lands this time<-- elopio
[20:53] <balloons> super+ctrl does some things to
[20:53] <dkessel> i should use super + w more often
[20:54] <dkessel> anybody else using unity and able to confirm the behaviour?
[20:58] <dkessel> for some apps its even more... two pixels or so
[20:59] <letozaf> balloons, but does adding notebooks to reminders app work ? I am trying this on my laptop but it does not work
[20:59] <thomi> dkessel: confirmed for me
[21:00] <dkessel> ok. trying to find a bug here... against unity i guess
[21:01] <letozaf> balloons, also adding a note does not work for me
[21:02] <balloons> letozaf, i haven't tried since the rewrote some things
[21:02] <balloons> it's failing manually?
[21:02] <letozaf> balloons, yes
[21:03] <letozaf> balloons, I was trying how to do things manually before writing the tests but adding notes and notebooks does not work
[21:05] <dkessel> thomi: did you log off / reboot after applying updates today?
[21:05] <balloons> letozaf, :-( Well, if that is the case I guess they are bugs. Still, you can write the tests, with the assumption things would show to some extent?
[21:06] <balloons> i forgot my pass, so i can;t login to verify atm hah!
[21:06] <letozaf> balloons, lol
[21:06] <balloons> let me reset
[21:07] <letozaf> balloons, I can try to write the tests without testing them even if it sounds weired to me :P
[21:07] <balloons> letozaf, yes.. to the extent the tests would pass once th ebugs are fiex
[21:08] <letozaf> balloons, do I have to report a bug on everything I find not working or what ?
[21:10] <balloons> letozaf, works for me
[21:10] <letozaf> balloons, :O
[21:10] <balloons> letozaf, regrant access
[21:11] <balloons> i did and it started working
[21:11] <letozaf> balloons, ok let me try
[21:12] <thomi> dkessel: I haven't applied any updates today :-/
[21:12] <dkessel> thomi: ok, so that cannot be the cause then
[21:12] <letozaf> balloons, I did regrant access but it still does not work for me, after clicking on save it the notebook does not appear
[21:13] <balloons> can you make new notes letozaf ?
[21:13] <letozaf> balloons, nope
[21:13] <balloons> letozaf, signin to the webview, see if they are there
[21:13] <balloons> even though the app doesn't show them
[21:14] <balloons> or restart the app
[21:14] <dkessel> balloons: i am having a hard time choosing whether to file against unity or compiz here... what do you think?
[21:16] <balloons> well I'm up to date as of yesterday. thomi sees it as well.. i'm wondering the cause. are you both running similar gpus/drivers?
[21:16] <balloons> i'm on ati, open drivers
[21:16] <dkessel> nvidia, closed
[21:16] <letozaf> balloons, mmm there is something wrong, I have a lot of notes I had inserted while writing the first tests that are not in the webview and I cannot insert notes from reminders app so definitly there is soemthing wrong, but what ?
[21:16] <dkessel> oh well.. not the desktop
[21:17] <dkessel> intel...
[21:17] <balloons> letozaf, syncing issues.. try deleting everything for reminders and sign in again
[21:17] <balloons> see if things cleanup. but still, sounds like sync issues
[21:18] <balloons> I would file against unity, but it's hard to say how solveable it is
[21:23] <thomi> also nvidia, closed
[21:23] <letozaf> balloons, this is weired: I removed evernote account from account settings, removed ~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders dir lanched reminders and it said I did not have an account, so I added the evernote account in account settings, launched reminders and all my notes are still there but these notes are not in the webview :O
[21:23] <balloons> heh. sync issues for sure
[21:23] <balloons> delete them I guess, close and relaunch
[21:23] <balloons> try then adding one again and see what happens
[21:24] <balloons> if you play in both places at once I noticed it got confused
[21:24] <letozaf> balloons, but I cannot delete them from reminders app as it does not allow me and I do not have them in the webview so how can I remove them ?
[21:24] <dkessel> meh. its not perfectly easy to reproduce.... sometimes they snap correcly, sometimes they don't
[21:26] <letozaf> balloons, I get a lot of these messages while reminders app is open: file:///home/letozaf/autopilot-tests/reminders-app/src/app/qml/components/NotesDelegate.qml:59:5: QML QQuickImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://resource/image/jpeg?noteGuid=dfff9a93-aa0c-45bf-ab0f-d551bffc7564&hash=af5011d9ec039e39340968f7a0d78630
[21:28] <dkessel> thomi: bug 1294864
[21:29]  * thomi pokes the unity 7 guys
[21:32] <letozaf> balloons, I fixed it, I created a new evernote account :P
[21:32] <balloons> letozaf, lol
[21:32] <letozaf> balloons, now its nice and clean and I can add notes :P
[21:32] <balloons> great.. ok, well that's settled
[21:33] <letozaf> balloons, :D
[21:45]  * dkessel adds 'parole' to theoretically autopilot-testable apps
[21:51] <elfy> has dkessel seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/AutopilotTesting
[21:51] <elfy> dkessel: was updated by lderan in February
[21:53] <dkessel> no, thanks elfy! ... guess i can stop editing this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eL3q8p7JP9CyL7SX8hBI6D6fbLQHN9WXegCey2aaCf8/edit?usp=sharing
[21:54] <elfy> dkessel: if there is information on the docs thing not on the wiki - add it :)
[21:55] <elfy> maybe versions + toolkit when it isn't gtk3
[22:07] <dkessel> will do when there is time. good night!
[22:12] <elfy> dkessel: I'll try and look at it tomorrow
[22:18] <balloons> fun stuff guys
[22:18] <balloons> i remember you doing that elfy :-)
[22:22] <elfy> balloons: lol - lderan double checked it for trusty
[22:22] <elfy> nothing much has happened since - so when we get to uu I'll do a copypasta for that cycle
[22:24] <elfy> balloons: I'm still not convinced it'll ever work for us :p
[22:24] <elfy> bah - that looks confusing lol
[22:24] <balloons> gtk3 i assume holds promise
[22:24] <elfy> I guess
[22:24] <elfy> but xfce is slow
[22:25] <elfy> still we make a whole lot of use of the package tracker