[06:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:53] <rostam> hi i am trying to install two instances of ubuntu on a same disk. Is this possible? thx
[06:56] <lordievader> rostam: Dualboot of Ubuntu, sure it's possible :)
[06:57] <rostam> lordievader,  is this possible using preseed file (automated) ?
[06:58] <lordievader> rostam: Hmm, never done that. Perhaps someone else here can answer that?
[07:09] <Tazmain> hi all what would be better unity or xubuntu to install on a ubuntu server ?
[08:37] <haridas> Hi,
[08:38] <haridas> I'm checking whether the Ubuntu server 12.04 will be compatible with the old HP HP-UX p018cg1 B.11.11 U 9000/800 machine ?
[08:39] <Tazmain> Hi all, I have a ubuntu-raring-minimal install, on a server ( dont ask, didnt install it) how do i configure xorg or startx to launch xubuntu ?
[09:20] <caribou> Tazmain: you may want to try tasksel, there is a Xubundu desktop task defined
[09:21] <Tazmain> caribou, xubuntu is defined there
[09:22] <jamespage> hallyn, turns out devstack still installs 'kvm' not 'qemu-kvm' - dosaboy is going to propose a change for that
[09:22] <caribou> Tazmain: at least I can see a "Xubuntu desktop" task when I run tasksel
[09:22] <Tazmain> caribou, well I can see that as well. it is selected.
[09:23] <caribou> jamespage: I have a few requests to implement modification of sysctl kernel parameters in charms
[09:23] <caribou> jamespage: what would be the best approach to implementing this :  modify each openstack charm or provide some kind of subordinate charm ?
[09:23] <jamespage> caribou, context?
[09:23] <caribou> Tazmain: then it looks like the xubuntu packages have been installed
[09:23] <jamespage> i.e. which charm - might make a difference
[09:24] <jamespage> infact this is the neutron-gateway charm right?
[09:24] <Tazmain> caribou, but I cant start it
[09:24] <caribou> jamespage: yeah, one of them is for the quantum^c^c^c^c^c^c^c neutron charm
[09:25] <caribou> Tazmain: then the problem might be somewhere else
[09:25] <jamespage> caribou, and are the changes specific to that charm?
[09:25] <jamespage> if so then I don't see a problem with having that charm set them - it could be done optionally via confi
[09:25] <jamespage> g
[09:25] <Tazmain> caribou, how can I specify what session to start , I think lightdm is installed.
[09:26] <caribou> jamespage: well, for this one the change is net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh* but I can imagine that down the road some other parameters might need tweaking
[09:26] <jamespage> caribou, OK - but as we learn about those we should be updating the charm
[09:26] <jamespage> caribou, I'd recommend making the change direct in neutron-gateway - would the same thing be recommended on compute nodes?
[09:27] <caribou> Tazmain: you may want to try 'start lightdm', indeed
[09:28] <Tazmain> caribou, have that running,but when I go to it, with vnc or intel remote managed console i get failed to start session "gnome"
[09:28] <caribou> jamespage: so you would not go for some *generic* way of changing any of the sysctl parameters ?
[09:28] <caribou> Tazmain: then it's a GUI issue, it's out of my area of expertise
[09:29] <caribou> Tazmain: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-desktop or some similar room
[09:29] <Tazmain> caribou, I will do that thank you
[09:30] <jamespage> caribou, I think I would probably write some sort of helper to twiddle sysctl knobs
[09:30] <jamespage> so other charms can re-use it
[09:30] <jamespage> rather than use a subordinate
[09:31] <caribou> jamespage: yeah, that's what I had in mind : make it generic enough so anyone can use it
[09:57] <Tazmain> caribou, regarding users and groups, the ubuntu server guide is really limited on that, is there another guide somewhere ?
[10:51] <hxm> hi
[10:52] <hxm> how to run a cron every few seconds?
[10:52] <hxm> */<seconds>?
[11:19] <shwaiil> Hi
[11:20] <shwaiil> Q: I'm running 12.04 as a virtual server on virtualbox. There was a power surge, now it doesn't boot can't find the Fs. I'd like to run the liveCD, but the liveCD I've got is the desktop 12.04 and it's not running in low graphics mode.
[11:20] <shwaiil> That's the only version of liveCD available ? or for server version there's a different one ?
[11:20] <shwaiil> Thanks
[11:24] <jamespage> hallyn, stgraber: could we get the libvirt pending acceptance for precise-proposed into proposed? this issue is causing quite a bit of headache upstream in openstack
[11:24] <cfhowlett> shwaiil, desktop, server, and mini iso's are available
[11:25] <jamespage> hallyn, stgraber: please :-)
[11:26] <shwaiil> cfhowlett: thanks for lookINg! I'm not really finding the server livecd version though if there's such a thing
[11:27] <cfhowlett> shwaiil, I don't think server has a LIVE option ...
[11:27] <shwaiil> oh ok
[11:52] <_ruben> ah bugger, that'll teach me .. upgraded one of my vms from precise to trusty without creating a snapshot, result: a non-booting vm :)
[11:53] <_ruben> seems to fail at grub already
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !trusty|_ruben,
[11:56] <jamespage> bug 123456
[11:56] <jamespage> oh - hello uvirtbot!
[11:56] <jamespage> thanks soren
[13:39] <shwaiil> Q: Any tips or advice on how to solve ? VFS: cannot open root device "mapper/ubuntu--server-root" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6
[13:39] <shwaiil> I can successfully mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--server-root /foo
[13:40] <jamespage> hallyn, re bug 1291321 - do you think we should have an expectable to be able to live migrate instances from 12.04 to 14.04?
[13:40] <codepython777> has anyone setup an imap server here?
[13:40] <codepython777> I had a few questions about postfix+imap
[13:50] <dwarder> are there repos with the latest stable LAMP for ubuntu 13.10
[13:51] <dwarder> i.e. latest stable mysql php apache2
[13:54] <rbasak> tych0: for bug 1284652, does DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive not work? Or are you unable to do this in your case?
[13:56] <shwaiil> I've got a boot problem and I don't know how to fix it
[13:56] <shwaiil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7119904/
[13:57] <shwaiil> Mounting failed:   mount: unknown filesystem type ''
[13:57] <shwaiil> Boot sector type:  Unknown
[13:57] <shwaiil> is there a way to fix this ?
[13:57] <shwaiil> my server is running as a virtual server through virtual box
[13:57] <shwaiil> I'm currently running the liveCD
[13:57] <shwaiil> Any help would be appreciated, as I don't know what to do
[13:58] <cfhowlett> shwaiil, are you installed?
[13:58] <shwaiil> cfhowlett: thanks for looking! my server was running fine till today, last night there was a power surge
[13:58] <shwaiil> this morning I opened virtual box and tried to load my ubuntu image and it gets stuck
[13:59] <shwaiil> it's a long error but this is what I got "VFS: cannot open root device "mapper/ubuntu--server-root" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6"
[13:59] <shwaiil> I can do mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--server-root /foo'
[13:59] <shwaiil> and ls /dev/mapper
[13:59] <shwaiil> returns ubuntu--server-root and ubuntu--server-swap_1
[14:02] <cfhowlett> and your suppressor was - out to lunch?  sorry, had to poke you.  anyway, your actual hardware could be damaged or your host or guest OS could be scrambled.  reinstallation time, perhaps?
[14:03] <shwaiil> cfhowlett: so there's no way to fix this ?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> shwaiil, I don't run server enough to claim expertise.  I HAVE experienced a surge.  complete OS reinstall was the only fix but YMMV.
[14:06] <rbasak> lamont: any news on bug 1288823 please?
[14:20] <hallyn> jamespage: nothing i can do about acceptance into libvirt-proposed
[14:21] <jamespage> hallyn, yeah - that's why i was pinging stgraber
[14:21] <jamespage> (kinda CC'ing you)
[14:21] <hallyn> jamespage: migration is never guaranteed between versions, but the goal is usually for it to work when moving forward (and never backward)
[14:22] <hallyn> I'm juggling a few balls, still thinking about that one.  It seems to me since we can detect this in qemu, we should be able to fix it
[14:25] <stgraber> jamespage: let me see what I can do
[14:27] <jamespage> stgraber, ta
[14:27] <stgraber> accepted into proposed
[14:37] <smoser> hallyn, i'm sure i'm just being stupid
[14:37] <smoser> what am i doing wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7120099/
[14:38] <hallyn> smoser: you need some subuids bc you're not doing it as root
[14:38] <hallyn> did you mean to sudo?
[14:38] <hallyn> if not, then 'usermod -v 100000-200000 -w 100000-200000 smoser'
[14:38] <hallyn> oh, maybe you do have them but you just need a lxc config file
[14:38] <hallyn> check /etc/subuid for a smoser entry
[14:39] <smoser> you're right. i dont have them.
[14:39] <hallyn> then add 'lxc.id_map = u 0 150000 10000' and 'lxc.id_map = g 0 150000 10000' to
[14:39] <smoser> i actually *meant* to sudo, but didn't. then realized i hadn't and thought ... shouldnt this work ?
[14:39] <smoser> maybe it'd be nice to inform me of that when i'm dumb :)
[14:39] <hallyn> ok, you'll still need a config file at ~/.config/lxc/default.conf
[14:39] <hallyn> but no cirrus probaby wont work,
[14:39] <hallyn> as it will probably try to create devices.  not sure
[14:44] <Obsdark> hey oh
[14:45] <Obsdark> i have some problems, i download the 12.04 version from the official site and also manage to fix the internet connection for a static ip (i think)
[14:45] <Obsdark> my problem is i can't make it download the install components
[14:46] <Obsdark> i'm trying to install it through USB stick in a notebook (ver 32x)
[14:46] <Obsdark> thanks in advance
[14:48] <Obsdark> hey oh i have some problems, i download the 12.04 version from the official site and also manage to fix the internet connection for a static ip (i think) my problem is i can't make it download the install components i'm trying to install it through USB stick in a notebook (ver 32x) thanks in advance
[14:49] <Obsdark> anyone?
[14:49] <Obsdark> i'm a noob ubuntu (and linux) user but i manage to make a CentOS work, if that's help at all
[14:55] <groggster> Hi! I am thinking about applying for a job as a sysadm at Canonical... I am looking for another sysadm working there to explain a few things to me before I do so. Is this the right channel?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> groggster, nope
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[14:58] <groggster> cfhowlett: Okay, thanks!
[14:59] <shwaiil> Q: how to expand the /boot partition I've got at 100% on ubuntu 12.04 lts ?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !gparted|shwaiil,
[15:00] <cfhowlett> shwaiil, run gparted and resize the partitions is one option OR you could clear out your old kernels which are probably clogging your /boot
[15:01] <shwaiil> cfhowlett:  clear old kernels, ok I'll do that
[15:15] <pmatulis3> in an lxc container i do not have cli tab completion for when using sudo (sudo apt-ge<TAB>).  how do i rectify?
[15:16] <pmatulis3> default shell is /bin/bash for default user 'ubuntu'
[15:21] <rbasak> pmatulis3: do you have bash-completion installed in there?
[15:26] <pmatulis3> rbasak: yes, it works for non-sudo
[15:34] <RoyK> pmatulis3: sudo -i :P
[15:37] <pmatulis3> RoyK: bzzt
[15:37] <RoyK> :)
[15:42] <shredding> I'm learning init.d, many of the preinstalled scripts have "set -e"
[15:42] <shredding> what is it meaning?
[15:42] <shredding> Does it mean, whenever an error occurs in the scripts, it terminated?
[15:43] <lazyPower> shredding: yep. on first error, terminate output
[15:43] <lazyPower> er, terminate execution
[15:43] <shredding> okay
[15:43] <shredding> I'm investigating why a service (solr) is not started.
[15:43] <shredding> ATM it's not starting.
[15:43] <shredding> What are my debug options?
[15:44] <shredding> The script is running if i run /etc/init.d/solr start
[15:44] <shredding> I run sudo update-rc.d solr defaults
[15:45] <shredding> it's not working and i now do not know how to investigate.
[15:46] <raj__> if my domain name is "www.mydomain.com", what could likely be my unqualified hostname & FQDN ?
[15:46] <shwaiil> Q: My Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is running under virtual box. After a system crash, I've noticed that the adapter name turned eth0 to en0, not sure why! So, for this reason, my virtualmachine is not available on the network. I know about the interfaces file but not sure what to do. Any hints ? Thank you!
[16:23] <rbasak> shwaiil: look up biosdevname to understand why you get en0. You could either just change eth0->en0 in /etc/network/interfaces, or disable biosdevname and stick to eth0.
[16:26] <shwaiil> rbasak: thanks for looking! biosdevname
[16:26] <shwaiil> humm ok
[16:36] <RoyK> with iostat, does tps show actual iops? the numbers I get seem rather high for those 5900rpm drives I'm using in this box
[16:49] <ilhami5> Anybody here?
[16:49] <ilhami5> I am reinstalling Ubuntu Server and I get this...
[16:49] <ilhami5> Network configuration failed..
[16:50] <ilhami5> Your network is probably not using DHCP
[16:50] <ilhami5> and some more.
[17:15] <rbasak> jamespage: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/g/golang/unstable_changelog - looks like we want to merge or cherry-pick golang (2:1.2.1-2). The bug suggests that docker is impacted.
[17:15] <jamespage> rbasak, +1 yes
[17:16] <jamespage> rbasak, and we should look at syncing docker.io again
[17:31] <jamespage> rbasak, I poked at the lxc/networking stuff in 1.17.5 of juju-core with trusty; its broken on the bootstrap node but not on other nodes
[17:31] <jamespage> bug 1271144
[17:31] <jamespage> roge is working on it
[17:34] <rbasak> jamespage: maybe he could stop calling "networking restart" while he's at it?
[17:35] <rbasak> It sounds like a very related issue to me.
[17:35] <jamespage> rbasak, well for the bootstrap node its an ordering thing
[17:35] <jamespage> rbasak, if you drop in a do ifdown && ifup it gets fixed
[17:35] <jamespage> rbasak, what was the other bug reference?
[17:35] <rbasak> jamespage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1248283
[17:36] <jamespage> rbasak, ta
[17:39] <ilhami6> I need some serious help. I have installed Ubuntu VM on Hyper-V but can't get it connected to the internet
[17:57] <pmatulis> ilhami6: check the guest's network card, does it exist?  does it have an IP address?
[17:57] <ilhami6> I only see: lo and virbr0
[17:57] <ilhami6> where is eth0?
[17:58] <ilhami6> it's not there?
[17:58] <pmatulis> ilhami6: so *get* it there
[17:58] <ilhami6> how?
[17:58] <pmatulis> ilhami6: see what card windows is emulating
[17:58] <ilhami6> hey wait.
[17:58] <pmatulis> ilhami6: you may need to change it so linux can deal with it
[17:58] <ilhami6> 2 sec
[17:59] <Havenstance> so if im setting up a server with 4 nics, I want one to be internet facing and share with the other 3 on different subnets. Is there a tutorial that covers this somewhere?
[18:00] <Havenstance> I had one im following but its only for a 2 nic setup. refers to eth_safe & Eth bad with safe being  eth0 and bad being eth1
[18:01] <Havenstance> could i just assume i follow the setup for the 1st eth_bad being eth 1 and then duplicate the config for eth 2 and 3 being the same as eth 1?
[18:02] <Havenstance> cuz tbh i'd like to config this as eth0 being internet facing and eth 1, 2, and 3 being intranet facing and have the server be DHCP
[18:02] <Havenstance> for all 3
[18:02] <rbasak> smoser: please can you subscribe ~ubuntu-server to docker.io?
[18:02] <ilhami6> THERE IS A PROBLEM. I cannot set my Wireless NIC as my external switch?
[18:02] <ilhami6> it gives me an error
[18:05] <smoser> rbasak, done
[18:05] <rbasak> Thanks!
[18:28] <balloons> jcastro, ping
[18:33] <balloons> perhaps someone else then :) I'm curious why,  nmcli con add is missing from nmcli. Specifically, how would you recommend configuring a network connection on a server? Not use networkmanager?
[18:35] <Havenstance> im trying to figure out how to do that as well. 4 nics one internet facing 3 internal facing ints assign others dhcp
[18:36] <sarnold> Havenstance: do you want to LACP those nics together into 'one' interface? or do you want that machine to have three different internal IPs?
[18:37] <Havenstance> sarnold, whatever I have to do to make it work at this point
[18:39] <sarnold> Havenstance: LACP would require a smartish switch -- so it's beyond my experience :) -- but it would give the ability to treat it as 'one' IP and different traffic from different hosts would be routed to which port based on some hashing function. it sounds slick.
[18:40] <rbasak> balloons: the usual way to configure networking on a server is via /etc/network/interfaces. No Network Manager.
[18:42] <parallel21> I second LACP. I don't generally see an advantage to having two separate ip's for one machine
[18:46] <jrwren> if you don't have fancy switches, you can bridge two nics
[18:46] <jrwren> then assign 1 ip to the bridge. then connect the two nics to two different switches in teh data center.
[18:46] <jrwren> now you can suffer a switch outage and your services on that IP stays up
[18:50] <balloons> rbasak, thank you..
[18:53] <RoyK> parallel21: LACP is fine, but severa interfaces with different IPs can be good for iscsi multipath if that's what he's doing
[18:53] <RoyK> s/severa/several/
[18:54] <RoyK> jrwren: if you're in a datacentre, the switches will probably support LACP
[18:54] <RoyK> a datacentre with dumb switches seem like a rather dumb idea to me
[18:57] <ilhami6> RoyK I still havent solved the issue
[18:57] <ilhami6> can you not help?
[18:57] <RoyK> ilhami6: what was the issue?
[18:58] <ilhami6> no internet connection on guest OS
[18:58] <ilhami6> Ubuntu VM
[18:58] <RoyK> bridge or nat? and what hypervisor?
[18:58] <ilhami6> I don't know how to configure this. I have tried everything.
[18:58] <ilhami6> I am using Hyper-V
[18:58] <ilhami6> bridge
[18:58] <RoyK> I haven't used hyper-v in a while
[18:58] <ilhami6> I even asked in Windows. Worst channel ever.
[18:59] <RoyK> but guess they'll say "ubuntu isn't supported"
[18:59] <ilhami6> I think it's a Windows issue though
[18:59] <ilhami6> :D
[18:59] <RoyK> I had a few vm's on ubuntu on hyper-v in my last job
[18:59] <ilhami6> but I think you can handle it
[18:59] <RoyK> networking worked well until it was stressed, then it just cut off
[18:59] <ilhami6> yeah but this isn't even stressed :D
[18:59] <RoyK> I ended up setting up a kvm cluster for linux vm's
[19:00] <RoyK> less hazzle
[19:00] <ilhami6> I am going to stress my server later if I ever set it up
[19:00] <ilhami6> so you have some tricks? :D
[19:01] <ilhami6> I am not talking about magic btw hehe
[19:01] <RoyK> yeah, the trick was not to use hyper-v :P
[19:01] <ilhami6> yeah indeed I will not do that in the future.
[19:01] <ilhami6> but I want to solve this.
[19:01] <RoyK> using ESXi in this job
[19:01] <RoyK> 200ish VMs, mostly linux, all distros work well
[19:02] <ilhami6> :D
[19:02] <ilhami6> But RoyK do you think we can solve this?
[19:02] <ilhami6> I set up a bridge
[19:02] <ilhami6> it says it's connected
[19:03] <RoyK> a bridge on linux?
[19:03] <ilhami6> no no on the host(Windows)
[19:03] <ilhami6> WIth the internal and external virtual switch
[19:03] <RoyK> does it work with linux VMs?
[19:04] <RoyK> guess it's a hyper-v config issue
[19:05] <ilhami6> it sucks
[19:05] <ilhami6> so much
[19:06] <RoyK> ilhami6: imho hyper-v works well if configured correctly, apart from the network issues :P
[19:06] <RoyK> most systems need to configured well to work
[19:06] <ilhami6> dude I have been trying all day
[19:06] <ilhami6> :S
[19:06] <ilhami6> :(
[19:06] <ilhami6> I am dying
[19:07] <RoyK> can't help you with hyper-v, man
[19:07] <ilhami6> nobody can :D
[19:07] <ilhami6> I am on my own.
[19:07] <RoyK> again, does it work with windows VMs?
[19:07] <ilhami6> haven't tried with Windows VMs
[19:08] <ilhami6> and I can't. :) I dont have any Windows CD?
[19:09] <ilhami6> but RoyK I can tell you it has worked before.
[19:09] <ilhami6> with Ubuntu
[19:09] <ilhami6> then something got messed up
[19:11] <raub> So, from what I read in the update-ca-certificates man page, if I add/delete a cert to   /usr/share/ca-certificates. How can I verify if it has been added/deleted once I run update-ca-certificates.
[19:12] <raub> s/s. H/s, h/
[19:15] <RoyK> ilhami6: try a new vm
[19:16] <ilhami6> RoyK can two VMs conflict with each other?
[19:16] <ilhami6> like Hyper-V with Virtual Box?
[19:16] <RoyK> hardly
[19:16] <RoyK> but why run both?
[19:16] <ilhami6> I have both installed
[19:16] <ilhami6> just asking if they could conflict
[19:16] <RoyK> ilhami6: anyway - these questions aren't really related to ubuntu server if that's only the guest os
[19:26] <pmatulis> ilhami6: i've used hyper-v no problem, but like i said before, i had to change what network adapter it offered to its guests
[19:29] <pmatulis> ilhami6: there was also some BIOS setting, i can't remember what that was, just google 'hyper-v bios'
[19:44] <Martyn> Afternoon all :)
[20:12] <cyphermox> balloons: indeed, don't use NetworkManager on server.
[20:14] <balloons> our redhat brethren seem to support / enable this, so this is from where the question arose. I appreciate the clarification. seems like debian never implemented the same bits
[21:04] <bekks> balloons: To answer your initial question: on a server, I'd manually configure the network using /etc/network/interfaces
[22:27] <Overand> Awe, libvirt doesnt' seem to have hot-resize support for disks?
[22:27] <Overand> maybe i'm misreading - curious if anyone has experience with it