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TJ-wise_phone: Maybe there's a broken "/home/$USER/.Xauthority" from the failed sessions. You can delete that file if it exists00:00
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TJ-wise_phone: That's a very nasty bug/regression in that 3.11 kernel and Ubuntu 13.1000:00
Left_Turnoh ok00:01
TJ-amigamagic: There are alternative kernel builds, one is low-latency, designed for your scenario00:01
amigamagicTJ, suppose I install this low-latency kernel... I will not have anymore official ubuntu kernel upgrades?00:02
TJ-amigamagic: See http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-lowlatency&searchon=names00:02
Guest32656Hey hows it going? anyone know a good program for ubuntu that will deal with multi volume rar archives00:02
cassiohey. I'm installing minimal on an old laptop without PAE, and I selected ubuntu desktop, and it booted to a screen with an install drivers contextual menu but won't let me click on it00:03
BlackDeath_whats the name of the file editor i've seen people use that color the scripting00:03
Guest32656nick /s00:03
TJ-Left_Turn: beset asking wise_phone how he managed to get the installer to run, I got a little lost at that point but it worked so I didn't ask further :)00:03
TJ-cassio: what version of Ubuntu?00:04
amigamagicTJ, interesting, but there is a guide to how to install those kernel for newbie?00:04
ddurdenBlackDeath_: Most do it, even the built in one (gedit). it's called Syntax Highlighting00:04
TJ-amigamagic: same as any other package: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-lowlatency"00:04
BlackDeath_ddurden, i'm only using terminal.. is there one that does it?00:04
TJ-BlackDeath: "vim" does00:04
amigamagicoh, really is it so easy?00:04
cassio13.10 I think00:05
ddurdenBlackDeath_: vim and nano. Really, most everything does it.00:05
BlackDeath_ddurden, ok.. thanks00:05
TJ-amigamagic: Yes :) As long as once it is installed, you ensure in the grub boot menu you choose the lowlatency version if you have both "generic" and "lowlatency" flavours installed at the same time00:05
cassiohttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/mini.iso00:06
BlackDeath_<3 this channel if i cant find it on google you guys answer my simple questions so fast00:06
xtbmanIs there a particular reason why somebody would install an older version of Ubuntu, say 12.04, today? Is there any good reason for someone new to Ubuntu to not install the latest version?00:06
skytrashLTS00:06
amigamagicxtbman, latest ubuntu versions are unstable00:06
cassioxbtman, 12.04 supports older hardware better00:06
xtbmanI see, thanks. So 12.04 is the recommended version for new users?00:07
numbersmy wifi connection keeps dropping, i am using ubuntu 12.0400:07
wise_phoneTj- you're right again.  Deleting the .Xauthority fixed the log on issue.00:07
cassioI think 12.04 is an excellent version for you00:07
amigamagicI think 12.04 is supported for 5 years and it's more stable00:07
xtbmanOk thanks00:07
amigamagicbut maybe it doesn't recognize some new hardware00:07
ddurdenxtbman: I woudl chose the LTS (12.04) if i prefered stability and the current (13.10) if I wanted the latest packages00:08
ddurdenxtbman: there's no "best" as such, it depends on your requirements00:08
cassioyeah, you could run live cds of both00:08
amigamagicfor example, on a recent xeon hardware, the suspend doesn't work on 12.0400:08
cassioanybody want to give me advice on my non-pae minimal installation?00:09
amigamagicand there are some problems with the intel hd 4000 I think...00:09
amigamagicTJ, thanks for the link00:09
ddurdenamigamagic: Can I  ask your use case for suspending a xeon? It's a server CPU, and a server in suspend .. ?00:09
xtbmanddurden ok thanks. I'm installing Ubuntu on an Acer c720 Chromebook.00:10
ddurdenxtbman: Are you using chrubuntu, or coreboot, or the c720 has a bios that allows it?00:10
amigamagicddurden: if the hibernation doesn't work, sometimes you prefer to suspend it, to preserve energy00:10
ddurdenamigamagic: Can I  ask your use case for hibernating a xeon? It's a server CPU, and a server in suspend .. ?00:10
amigamagicif you know that from 00:00 to 06:00 you don't use it, why you have to keep it on?00:11
xtbmanddurden I haven't made a decision yet. I'm still waiting for the computer to arrive in mail. I briefly read one tutorial that suggested chrubuntu.00:11
ddurdenamigamagic: ok, i see00:11
WiseTJ-, Nice, getting all set up now!  I can't thank you enough!00:11
TJ-wise_phone: looks like we're on a roll :)00:11
ddurdenxtbman: my recommendation is to replace the firmware with coreboot, then the chromebook becomes a regular pc. however the chromeOS channels would be a better place for support for that00:11
TJ-Wise: I feel like I've been through a 4 hour exam :)00:11
xtbmanddurden ok great I'll look into coreboot.00:12
cassiois the minimal installation supposed to take awhile after boot to desktop?00:13
WiseTJ-, oh man, I don't doubt it.00:13
amigamagicand someone knows why Unity designers designed the bar to be always on the left?00:14
franknogI have no sound and I could really use some help at this point00:14
TJ-amigamagic: Because they think left-to-right ?00:14
ddurdenamigamagic: you can move it ...00:14
amigamagicbut the widescreen monitors have much more space in horizontal00:14
amigamagicso it would be better to make it in the bottom part of the screen00:14
cassiofranknog, does ubuntu detect the audio device?00:14
TJ-amigamagic: depends if the display is portrait or landscape00:15
franknogcassio: how would I go about checking that.00:15
ddurdenamigamagic: on widescreen i usually run out of screen height before i run out of width00:15
amigamagicTJ, you use your widescreen monitor in vertical?00:15
ddurdenamigamagic: Just move the damn bar00:15
amigamagichow to move it?00:15
amigamagicwhere is the damned option?00:15
ddurdenamigamagic: there are various unity tweak tools in the software centre00:15
cassiofranknog, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting00:15
CorvetteI'm on ubuntu 12.04 and something went wrong a while ago, now every time i start the laptop I have to enter sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi how do I fix this00:16
TJ-amigamagic: Unity was designed for phones and tablets and desktop experience was 'upset' for a time, and still isn't perfect according to many people00:16
amigamagicTJ, I think Unity would be MUCH better if it was A LITTLE more personalizable00:16
TJ-amigamagic: Personally, I switched to KDE because Unity fails on my 2 GPU, 6-monitor configuration.00:16
TJ-amigamagic: I agree entirely!00:16
amigamagicTJ, personally, I use gnome-session-fallback00:17
amigamagicand it's the best until now00:17
amigamagicI tried KDE00:17
amigamagicbut... Hey, it's so damned complex!00:17
amigamagicbut I admit it's very appealing to the eyes00:17
CorvetteKDE is ugly00:17
amigamagicit looks like a mix of Windows and OSX00:18
Corvettegnome shell is the nicest00:18
amigamagicbut I cannot use it for more than 5 minutes00:18
amigamagicbefore my head goes nuts00:18
TJ-amigamagic: I like complex! I also like being able to see the installed applications in hierarchical menus rather than having to remember what is installed00:18
ddurdenamigamagic: i've just checked, the *exact* thing to type into search in softrware center is "unity tweak tool"00:19
TJ-I find it ironic, also, that Unity was designed to work well on phones/tablets yet the dash search needs typing... there's a reason for the Mouse... point and click, not point, type, and click :)00:19
franknogcassio: okay, using the command "list-sinks" after "pacmd" showed that my anolog stereo device is "HW_MUTE_CTL" and that it's "IDLE"00:19
amigamagicddurden, I heard that unity it's not much stable if you move it with tweaks00:19
amigamagicmaybe it's a metropolitan legend?00:19
amigamagic(I mean moving the unity bar)00:20
ddurdenamigamagic: you'll never know if you don't try it00:20
amigamagicsure00:20
Din_Weaselhow to move the unity bar?00:20
amigamagicI think 70-80% of people would like to move Unity bar on the bottom of the screen...00:20
amigamagicbeing that with a widescreen monitor is so much natural to use the "wide" area for dockbar and other bars...00:21
ArafangionHmm.00:21
ddurdenthe unity bar is a dock bar, which bar do you mean?00:22
Din_Weaselmy 30 inch dell isn't wide screen00:22
cassiocan someone please reassure me about my installation?00:22
amigamagicDin_Weasel, how many people today use 4:3 monitors?00:22
amigamagicI mean, as desktop users...00:22
ArafangionI was biased against ubutnu in the early days as I found them very unstable, which I attributed to immature packaging (relative to debian), and the use of 3rd party drivers (which was really unstable with my ati-based laptop).00:23
ArafangionHowever, the ubuntu live CD is quite impressive, from a UI point of view.00:23
ddurdenamigamagic: desktops are obsolete :)00:23
amigamagicddurden, keyboard and mouse are obsolete too, right?00:23
ddurdenamigamagic: especially desktop screens. why can't i get a 15" screen with 2880x1600 pixels for a desktop? laptops have them00:24
Din_Weasel4:3 monitors are good for word processing00:24
Din_Weaselto fit a page in word00:24
ArafangionDin_Weasel: I disagree. However good 4:3 is, 3:4 is even better.00:24
ArafangionI find the current wide-screen monitors, vertically positioned, are perfect for word pages.00:25
Din_Weaseland sorry for my english, i'm lithuanian00:25
amigamagicDin_Weasel: with a big widescreen monitor you could have two A4 pages in one screen00:25
deepyI seem to have permanently disabled my touchpad00:25
ddurdenamigamagic: i would only use a keyboard for specific technical applications like coding; voice is working fine for me if i just want to use web or email00:25
ArafangionAh, yes, speaking of touchpad.  The touch pad on the eeePC doesn't seem to work in Ubuntu.00:25
ddurdenamigamagic: I can't do that with 1080p. it's only 1920 across, right? so that is 960 pixels per window if you have 2 side by side. Most websites don't display correcty at that narrow width if they detect a desktop client00:26
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amigamagicddurden, I'm a "classic" guy, so I will stick with keyboard and mouse for a long time. And I am a developer, so I use the keyboard very often.00:27
ddurdenamigamagic: and that's why 1920x1080 is useless for me; i'd need 2 or 3 monitors for that00:27
Guest4824hi00:28
amigamagicddurden, I think that for two A4 pages of an openoffice, 1920x1080 is fine00:29
amigamagicbut I agree that if you have a single page layout, 4:3 monitors are more natural00:29
Din_Weaselstupid question, but are there any irc networks/chanels left there people are just chatting, I mean a non thematic ones. I don't want to be offtopic, want to improve my english a little bit00:30
ddurdenamigamagic: what about openoffice on the left side and a webpage on the right? now we're back to trying to view a website in 960 pixel width00:30
TJ-For A4, I have a 1920x1200 monitor in portrait00:30
ddurdenamigamagic: please stop defending lowres displays like 1920x1080. they arent new or clever anymore. ipads are 2500+ across already00:30
amigamagicddurden, I was speaking of two pages of the same application, not two webpages.00:30
Din_WeaselI have a 2560*1600 monitor two pages fits just perfect00:30
amigamagicDin_Weasel: :D00:31
amigamagicddurden, I will not defend 1920x108000:31
Corvetteomg 1080p is lowres now :( I have 3 1080p monitors00:31
amigamagicI'm using now 1280x800 res00:31
ddurdensorry 2000x1500, but it's stil bigger than HD00:32
ddurdenit's just retarded thar desktops have fewer pixels than a phone or tablet00:32
ddurdenyet no-one sees the fact that desktop screens are junk00:33
amigamagicit's just retarted that a little phone has a resolution of 1920x108000:33
amigamagicor similar res00:33
Din_Weaselit's just retarted people are buying laptops for gaming00:33
amigamagic:D00:33
TJ-ddurden: You can get high-res desktop screens, the issue is, manufacturing yield for larger screens00:34
amigamagicanyway, KDE is too different from the usual desktop experiences00:35
ddurdenddurden: not at high pixel densirt. show me a 15" sdesktop screen @ 2800x1600 or so00:35
ddurdenTJ-: sorry my last ws addressed to you. those screens don't exist.00:35
amigamagicI mean, you cannot move icons without clicking on that bar that shows when you stay for a little on the icon00:36
franknogso I used to have sound, but no I don't00:36
amigamagicit's crazy00:36
Cinoswhoa, high resolutions00:37
ddurdeni found kde wasn't very pretty, but it is quite customisable.00:38
amigamagicI think it's TOO much customizable... :D00:39
amigamagicto the point you have too many choices to make the same thing00:39
amigamagicand it confuses you00:39
TJ-ddurden: You've not seen the 4K monitors then?00:40
ddurdeni like the way unity has menu bar integration. I dont need to go menu->file->print etc anymore. I just hit the special key and type in 'print' and if the app supports it, it automatically works out which menu i want with a smart search00:40
amigamagicand why I should rotate an icon on the KDE desktop!?00:40
ddurdenTJ-: I have, but they are all 28" or larger00:40
amigamagicit's crazy!00:40
ddurdenTJ-: Also they are capped at 30 Hz which is useless for gaming00:40
Jordan_Uddurden: There are laptops with such screens, probably desktops too. Though I think only GNOME3 really has good HiDPI support currently.00:41
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ddurdenJordan_U: Laptops, yes. desktops - no, you cannot buy them,00:41
Din_WeaselI have a Dell U3014 UltraSharp 30-Inch00:42
ddurdenJordan_U: You're right about the font and icon size issue though: unity is a bit bad with retina resolutions00:42
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ddurdenJordan_U: ChromeOS is fine with HiDPI as well00:43
Jordan_Uddurden: I would hope so with the pixel :)00:44
causativehow does my terminal process get different groups from me?  how do I start a terminal with the same groups as me, after changing my own groups?00:47
TJ-ddurden: The Dell UP2414Q (24") does 4K @ 60Hz00:47
Din_Weaselany video cards supporting 4k?00:47
ddurdenddurden: Looked at it, it's 30 Hz limited00:48
ddurdenTJ-: Argh, that last one was for you again. It does not do 60 Hz on HDMI. How else would you connect it? ;-)00:49
Din_Weaseldispley port?00:49
TJ-dduffey: DisplayPort of course!00:49
TJ-oops...00:49
TJ-ddurden:  DisplayPort of course!00:49
causativemy terminal has groups causative ada dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare, and I have groups causative www-data00:49
rwwcausative: log out and back in00:49
rwwcausative: (i'm assuming you just added yourself to www-data)00:50
ddurdenTJ-: Ok, so that's the first monitor that qualifies. it's new.00:50
causativeis that the only way rww... I'm talking about a terminal in gnome00:50
TJ-HDMI v1.4 is required for 4K00:50
rwwcausative: yes.00:50
causativeoh well, thanks00:50
TJ-ddurden: They're all "new"! The factories are still ramping up production, especially of the IPS panels, as they improve manufacturing yield00:51
TJ-HDMI 2.0 is needed for 4K @ 60Hz00:52
philaneoushi im running 12.04.4 and i've ran out of space on /boot. It seems that apt-get is not removing old kernels00:53
philaneousi ran this too dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge00:54
philaneousim in a dependecy hell at the moment00:54
sarthakIs the AMD Radeon 4xxx series still supported in coming 14.04?00:55
sarthakCurious as to what is the best plug-n-play Video Card for ubuntu to get over Intel Graphics.00:55
TJ-philaneous: ouch, so where are you at?00:55
philaneousTJ-: well i have a lot of old kernels listed00:57
philaneousi want to remove them so i can get the newest one00:57
philaneousTJ-: i dont want to manually remove them00:57
philaneousTJ-: it tells me to run autoremove00:57
philaneousTJ-: i do this and still runs me in circles00:58
TJ-philaneous: can you pastebin "dpkg --get-selections 'linux-image*' | egrep '3\..*[[:space:]]install' "01:00
evilbugi've installed server 12.04 with openbox and while i have the network manager applet working, i can't figure out how to connect to pass protecto wifi networks since when i click on them the pop up that asks for login details doesn't show up. i do have gnome-keyring installed.01:01
philaneousTJ-: http://pastebin.com/kcTWN6Fi01:03
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Guest73521hello folks, I'm getting an error message when trying to install Ubuntu server from a USB stick.01:04
Guest73521anyone offer any help?01:05
philaneousGuest73521: whats the error01:05
Guest73521says it can't read a file from the CD, and fails.01:05
evilbugGuest73521: and what'd you make the usb with?01:06
Segfault_Are there any good email clients out there, with transparent gpg support, except evolution? I find Evolution to be terribly slow and bloated01:06
Guest73521Linux Live USB Creator, and Ubuntu Server 12.04.4 LTS 64bit ISO.01:06
philaneousGuest73521: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows01:06
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philaneousTJ-: any suggestions01:07
evilbugSegfault_: i actually use thunderbird on all platforms. not sure it's the lightest around but i'm diggin it.01:08
Segfault_evilbug: Of course, I had completely forgotten about good old thunderbird. How is the gpg support?01:09
DJSegfault_: I am a BIG fan of Thunderbird with the enigmail addon - works VERY well and on all platforms01:09
TJ-philaneous: I'd think you'd be quickest manually removing the older versions using "dpkg -r", than trying to script it01:10
Segfault_thanks evilbug and DJ, I will try thunderbird!01:11
evilbugSegfault_: have fun.01:11
philaneousTJ-: but everytime theres a new kernel release shouldn't it try to purge the old kernels01:12
TJ-philaneous: I use this to identify the older kernels, since grub.cfg usually orders them correctly. "grep initrd /boot/grub/grub.cfg | tail -n-2 | awk '{gsub("/initrd\.img-","",$2);print $2}' | while read version; do echo "linux-image-$version"; done" and feed the package names into whatever I want to remove them (dpkg or apt-get)01:12
TJ-philaneous: no, it shouldn't, that is the system administrators job01:12
TJ-philaneous: the installer has no (reliable) way to know which kernels are being used, which are broken, etc.01:13
philaneousTJ-: so i should list them and remove them all?01:13
exaroth /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS01:13
TJ-remove all but the last 2 is my usual process, unless there is a reason to keep older kernel versions01:14
philaneousTJ-: linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic its listing that twice01:16
TJ-philaneous: maybe because you've got it listed as the default and as a recovery ... you can insert "| uniq " into the pipeline to ensure it isn't repeated01:16
philaneousTJ-: where do i insert that in youre code?01:19
philaneousyour*01:19
TJ-philaneous: I use this to identify the older kernels, since grub.cfg usually orders them correctly. "grep initrd /boot/grub/grub.cfg | tail -n-2 | awk '{gsub("/initrd\.img-","",$2);print $2}' | while read version; do echo "linux-image-$version"; done | uniq"01:19
evilbughow can i get my network manager to ask for credentials when connecting to a protected wifi network?01:20
TJ-evilbug: It should do so automatically if it connects to an encrypted channel01:22
philaneousTJ-: ok its only listed once01:22
chaotic_goodanyone here a fan of reiserfs?01:23
evilbugTJ-: i installed server 12.04 with openbox, network manager applet, and keyring. the applet works fine, shows me all available networks but when clicking on a protected network nothing shows up.01:24
BlackDeath_is there a more upto date how to for squid on the ubuntu site... i'm follwoing what it says and the install location is different... using 12.04 server edition01:27
chaotic_goodthre is a manual for 12.0401:28
chaotic_goodshould be uptodate01:28
chaotic_good:)01:28
BlackDeath_oo i'll get that01:28
BlackDeath_thanks chaotic_good01:28
chaotic_goodmake sure u pick server ed01:29
chaotic_goodnot desktop01:29
BlackDeath_chaotic_good, serverguide.pdf?01:29
chaotic_goodnaa01:30
chaotic_goodhtml01:30
chaotic_goodonline one01:30
chaotic_goodpdf might be aged01:30
BlackDeath_https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/01:30
BlackDeath_??01:30
chaotic_goodhttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html01:31
MrJeromehow can I split a very long video into small individual videos?01:31
BlackDeath_chaotic_good, thats the one i'm looking at but i've worked out squid installed to /etc/squid3 instaead of /etc/squid01:33
borgossalutations01:33
WabsMrJerome, I have used Kdenlive for that before01:33
chaotic_goodoh01:33
chaotic_goodif 3 then diff01:33
chaotic_goodu on ur own01:33
borgosI am on ubuntu, just rebooted for the first time ever and I am unable to login from GUI.  If I hit ctrl-alt-F1 I can login from console01:33
chaotic_good:)01:33
MrJeromeWabs: I have kdenlive, how did you do it?01:33
borgos.xsession-errors says xorg.0.crash main process killed by term signal01:33
BlackDeath_chaotic_good, well :P :p :p i found an ubuntu guide for the squid3 edition01:33
BlackDeath_:)01:34
borgosdoes anyone have an idea of how i can fix this?01:34
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MrJeromeWabs: I tried putting the long clip on the timeline, and have it all cut up how I want it, but I can't figure how to save the pieces as separate clips01:34
borgosbasically i can logon from console but gui logon does not work after rebooting01:34
chaotic_goodhttp://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/BinaryPackages#KnowledgeBase.2BAC8-Ubuntu.Squid-3.1  oh did u install like this?01:34
chaotic_goodoh nice01:34
borgosupsart-dbus-sesion-bridge main process terminated with status 101:35
BlackDeath_i just did a "sudo apt-get install squid"01:35
chaotic_goodvarnish and ha-proxy are nicer than squid anyhow01:35
borgoswindows-stack-bridge main process killed by SEGV signal01:35
borgosI would SUPER appreciate any help01:35
borgosi tried installing/reconfiguring/removing gdm01:36
borgosThis is why its still not the year of the linux desktop :(01:37
borgosI cant load my goddamn GUI at logon, and it doesnt even give me a fucking error message01:38
boonceranyone use bt wifi or fon01:38
Konataborgos: Mind the language?01:39
borgosKonata: what for?01:40
texla!language | borgos01:40
ubottuborgos: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:40
borgosit's been a while since i have been censored on the internet01:40
borgosdont agree with that but if anyone can help me i will keep my mouth...family friendly01:41
borgosIf someone winds up in #ubuntu they are capable of digesting free speech01:42
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skytrashyou cant say bomb on a plane or threaten someones life01:43
skytrashcommon sense is part of freedom01:43
borgoswell sure you can01:43
borgosit might just inconvenience you01:43
borgosim just looking for some help with inability to login via gui01:43
skytrashyou can, but not without being a douche bag01:44
borgosi will tip DOGE if someone can rectify my situation01:44
* rww sighs01:44
borgoslanguage skytrash01:44
borgosinappropriate01:44
skytrashno errors huh?01:44
daftykinschildren, children01:44
skytrashyou using intel hd integrated chipset?01:45
borgosskytrash: .xsession-errors says unity-panel-service main process terminated with status 101:45
borgosupdate-notifier-crash main process killed by TERM signal01:45
borgosi have radeon 795001:45
borgosmy box was fine, this is my first reboot since install01:45
daftykinsborgos: can you stop pressing enter repeatedly please.01:45
chaotic_goodI love resierFS01:45
chaotic_good:)01:45
borgosits certainly seen its fair share of updates and whatnot01:45
chaotic_goodredo the box01:45
borgosdaftykins: what the heck are you talking about01:46
daftykinstype more per line instead of using enter as punctuation01:46
skytrashhave you tried deleting your xorg.conf?01:46
borgosskytrash: im not a linux expert, and as such have not tried that before. im concerned about doing so and making things worse, but i suppose not being able to login is bad enough. let me try01:47
borgosdaftykins: I take offense01:47
skytrashborgos: yeah no worries, it will re-create itself01:48
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rwwno it won't. of course, it also doesn't exist by default this decade.01:48
daftykinsrww: why don't you do anything?01:49
borgosi dont have an xorg.conf file in /usr/lib/X1101:50
borgosam i looking in the wrong spot?01:50
skytrashX -configure01:51
rwwborgos: it would be in /etc/X11/, if it existed.01:51
skytrashthen boom01:51
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borgosrmw: dont have that either :(01:52
borgosguess im doomed01:52
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skytrashor is it Xorg -configure01:52
rwwskytrash: what are you trying to achieve with this line of inquiry?01:53
skytrashrww: im trying to help my friend here01:53
platonicI know what he's trying to achieve.  Admin privileges.01:53
rwwskytrash: by telling them to delete a file that they probably don't have, which wouldn't solve their problem anyway, and then pondering ways to generate such a file?01:54
borgosI appreciate the efforts01:54
skytrashoh yeah01:54
borgosI'm a total linux noob so I get stuck pretty fast01:54
borgosive had a lot of problems with linux over the past 10 + years, but never seen the reboot and cant login again issue:(01:54
chaotic_goodredo the box01:55
borgosthis is why im on windows and osx01:55
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chaotic_gooddnt use gui login01:55
chaotic_good:)01:55
skytrashcan you login in the terminal?01:55
borgosskytrash: yes01:55
borgosctrl-alt-F1 i can login01:55
borgosgui i cannot01:55
Busybyeskigood. you're now confined to the terminal for the rest of your life01:55
borgosthis was my windows desktop replacement, first reboot01:55
borgosthe terminal is....terminal01:56
borgosi dont want to die!01:56
skytrashyou using gdm?01:56
borgosim not sure, it was just a default ubuntu install01:56
skytrash12.04?01:56
borgosi tried installing gdm, didnt help01:56
borgos13.1001:56
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platonicborgos: sudo apt-get install gdm.01:56
rww...01:57
borgosplatonic: i did that, then rebooted, got a different GUI but still couldnt login01:57
naryfasudo apt-get install windows XP01:57
borgosit goes black screen then back to gui login01:57
platonicYou did not do that.  You did sudo su root; passwd.01:57
borgosum no i did not01:58
borgosi haven ot changed my password01:58
borgosand i definitely installed then removed gdm01:58
kirfuHey, I currently have a hard drive with a dual boot ubuntu/windows. I bought another hard drive which I will add to the computer I want to copy over my Ubuntu to the new hard drive but leave windows on the old one. Is there a guide/easyish way to do this?01:58
skytrashhave you tried to reconfigure your xserver?01:58
skytrashdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:58
platonicterminally.01:59
rwwskytrash: not sure why you think that would help considering xorg clearly works since they can get to a graphical login manager?01:59
redst0rmHi guys o/01:59
skytrashi have had similar issues and had to set nouveau.modeset=002:00
platonicI noticed redst0rm inned.02:00
skytrashrww: thought he said he gets a black screen02:00
borgosskytrash: tried that, no luck02:00
redst0rmAnyone here is runnin' the Ubuntu 14.04 beta 1 ?02:00
borgosim pretty sure im fubar :(02:00
rwwredst0rm: the people in #ubuntu+1 are02:00
redst0rmi need help .. it won't install anything via Software center :/02:01
kirfuHey, I currently have a hard drive with a dual boot ubuntu/windows. I bought another hard drive which I will add to the computer I want to copy over my Ubuntu to the new hard drive but leave windows on the old one. Is there a guide/easyish way to do this?02:01
naryfaWhat is it called when you cannot launch a terminal in Ubuntu?02:01
redst0rmOkay ty rww (:02:01
naryfaIt is terminally ill.02:01
a7i3n_ee02:01
borgosskytrash and rmw thanks for your help even tho im screwed :)02:01
platonickirfu: Some other way to do that is to get windows and leave Ubuntu installed.02:01
kirfuhuh?02:02
kirfuif I use ddrescue I can copy the drives one for one.02:02
kirfuAnd then delete the windows one from my new drive and just repartition correct?02:02
TJ-borgos: Have you tried logging in as the guest user? If that works the at least we know it's a user-profile issue02:03
kirfuBut then how will my dual boot work? Will I have to switch which drive to boot from in the bois each time?02:03
borgosTJ-: guest user does same black screen > back to login issue02:03
lkthomasdoes anyone test pxe boot installation for ubuntu? do I need to use apt-mirror the mirror 100GB+ repo ?02:04
TJ-borgos: OK, that helps .... can you do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and tell us the URL of the pastebin it creates?02:04
skytrashborgos: in /etc/default/grub02:05
borgoshttp://paste.ubuntu.org/711748302:05
skytrashborgos: pastebin that02:06
borgoshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7117483 is correct my bad02:06
TJ-borgos: that URL seems to be incomplete, getting 404 not found02:06
TJ-borgos: thanks :)02:06
skytrashin your grub_cmdline_linux_default try adding nomodeset02:07
skytrashor  radeon.modeset=002:07
skytrashor you can do it at boot screen02:08
skytrashof grub02:08
TJ-borgos: That seems to indicate it's not a driver issue, more-like a window-manager issue02:08
borgossorry im a noob where do i edit that?02:08
skytrashborgos: in /etc/default/grub02:08
TJ-skytrash: There isn't a problem with mode-setting, the issue is the WM session is failing to log-in02:09
skytrashreally how do you know?02:09
borgos/02:10
TJ-skytrash: because I've read what borgos has described about his issue02:10
TJ-borgos: OK, can you pastebin this? "sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | pastebinit"02:10
skytrashahhh, ok im seeing the "working url"02:11
borgosTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7117501/02:12
kcdehimposterHey I am on Ubuntu 13.10 and just switched my graphics driver to a propietary version, but now my screen doesn't take up my whole monitor, how can I switch it to take up my whole monitor?02:12
platonickcdehimposter: I see what you mean.  Graphics can switch using Umon.02:14
TJ-borgos: The user account name is "ubuntu" ?02:15
borgosuser account is simply "user"02:15
TJ-borgos: ahh, OK, that was, I thought, lightdm's way of saying 'some user name', didn't realise it was literal :)02:16
borgosi dont have much of an imagination lol02:16
TJ-borgos: "sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log | pastebinit"02:16
borgosTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7117520/02:17
ahmad_I need help with dual booting02:17
TJ-borgos: I'm seeing this "Session: Failed during authentication" which could indicate a password issue - something like the NumLock or Caps Lock being on without you realising, or could be something else entirely02:17
borgosTJ-: i can login just fine via console with ctrl-alt-F102:18
TJ-borgos: OK, worth checking the obvious. I've had the GUI toggle the Caps Lock sense when the TTYs were fine02:18
kcdehimposterplatonic: What do you mean by Umon? I just looked and can't find what you might be refering to02:19
borgosyeah i understand. i sextuple checked that and i am definitely doing the correct pw in gui that works in console02:19
ahmad_COuld some one help me with dual booting please grub dosent see my windows 802:19
rwwkeyboard layout change?02:19
TJ-borgos: It's getting beyond the authentication I think, need to persue the logs further :)02:19
platonicdpkg-reconfigure xorgserver.  I put an alias in my script.02:20
borgosTJ-: I really appreciate the help.02:20
ahmad_hello....02:21
kcdehimposterplatonic: Was that for me?02:21
platonicHi ahmad_.  I noticed you while you were searching for dual-boot.02:21
ahmad_yes i need some help02:22
platonicI also noticed kcdehimposter asking me a question I already answered.02:22
ahmad_grub dose not see my windows 802:22
ahmad_so icant pick it when booting02:22
platonicIt's okay.  It's probably UEFI BIOS.  Switch BIOS to old boot method.02:23
platonicIt might be that you have to use Windows before Ubuntu.02:23
ahmad_i Hvae them on two diffrent harddrives too02:23
ahmad_i feel like that has something to do with it idk tho02:24
platonicFirst hard drive must have Windows to dual-boot.02:24
TJ-borgos: Have you installed/changed default display manager (gdm/kdm) ?02:24
ahmad_It does have windows my second is linux02:24
TJ-borgos: There are some issues I'm finding where if an alternative has been installed and selected, it 'upsets' the configuration when switching back to the original02:24
borgosTJ-:  not before the problems arised. as part of troubleshooting i did install gdm, booted to that, got a diff GUI screen, still unable to login tho (black screen)02:25
platonicahmad_: F2 on boot.02:25
borgosTJ-: i didnt install anything until i had issues. let me try uninstalling gdm again02:25
ahmad_and then what?02:26
TJ-borgos: OK, well it might be worth trying to persue the clean-up that is recommended for that, which requires doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and selecting the default DM *before* removing gdm02:26
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platonicRead the dialog.  It will tell you which configuration you can edit for hardware.02:26
checkit_Hey guys. What is a good maldet equiv for ubuntu?02:27
philaneousTJ-: thank you for your help02:27
philaneousTJ-: i resolved my issue(s)02:27
lkthomasis there have ubuntu server IRC channel ?02:27
TJ-philaneous: sorted now?02:27
philaneousTJ-: Yes sir02:27
TJ-:)02:27
ahmad_ive tried changing which dirve boots first it didnt do anything02:27
philaneousTJ-: i have symbolink that was broken too02:27
TJ-philaneous: I've had the out-of-space issue a few times because I'm installing self-built test kernels and forget to clean up :)02:28
Tom1hello all02:28
philaneousTJ-: another issue i found that it was saying that i had .37 installed when i tried removing it, it stated that it didnt exist,02:28
philaneousTJ-: so i reinstalled it02:28
philaneousthat fixed a lot of my issues02:28
platonicTJ-: What kernels do you build?02:28
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TJ-platonic: good ones :)02:29
borgosTJ-: just tried that, but same error :(  httpL//paste.ubuntu.com/711755702:29
platonicTJ-: borgos has no clue what you're doing.  But borgos has a good point.02:30
borgossorry i mean to say i installed gdm, no dice, uninstalled gdm and switched to lightwm then got the error i just pastebined02:30
platonicborgos, what are you doing with gdm and other wms?02:32
borgosi dont know :(02:32
TJ-ouch - /home/ just hit 100%02:33
borgosi had working ubuntu, rebooted, and can no longer login via gui. i have no clue what the default gui is or if i was using it successfully before or not02:33
borgosi was on vanilla 13.1002:33
rafsjoin /elementary02:35
rafsops02:35
TJ-borgos: It looks as if the 'session' settings are causing this, it's worth firstly ensuring the display server has stopped: "sudo service lightdm stop" and then reconfiguring it "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" in case config files need resetting to defaults. Then, you can try restarting the DM: "sudo service lightdm start"02:35
peyamHi02:37
ahmad_planatonic: Ive swapped the order in which my drives boot and i still get nothing on my grub for windows 802:37
Tom1my computer runs hotter on puppy linux than on windows02:38
Tom1 almost 15 celsius hotter than windows02:38
chaotic_goodpoopy02:38
peyamI use my TV as monitor and I have quit bad picture with hdmi. I wonder if I change it to vga will it still have this resolution 1920x1080?02:38
platonicThat's because Windows 8 supports UEFI.  You need to adjust the settings in the BIOS for SSD/HDD to toggle on another level.02:38
platonicBut don't do that just yet.02:39
peyamTom1, yes. if you got a better power manager in Windows you will get a cooler cpu02:39
borgosTJ-: still no dice. tried that. I appreciate your help, if you have a BTC or DOGE addr let me know02:39
ahmad_What should i try next02:39
peyamahmad_, why not insert you win 8 disk and repair the boot menu?02:40
chrohi, I need to resize my sda1 partition, what live CD can I use for that?02:40
platonicahmad_: Take the next step in using F11/F12 for booting SSD/HDD.02:40
ahmad_I dont have it i installed from a friends usb02:40
chro(I want to download something as small as possible02:40
TJ-borgos: I'm trying to reproduce it here, but no luck so far02:41
mrpcguyWHAT'S UP SCRIPT KIDDIES!02:41
platonicHIIII!02:41
ahmad_okay ill be back02:41
ahmad_i hope i dont have to lol02:41
peyamahmad_, have you tried boot repair?02:41
Beldarchro, gparted has a download bootable, several even smaller OS's02:41
ahmad_no where is that02:42
peyamahmad_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair02:42
peyamthis will repair your grub02:42
mrpcguyi'm so ready for ubuntu 14.04 to come out.02:42
peyamand you see the menu02:42
peyammrpcguy, Im will in 13.0402:42
chrogreat, thanks02:42
Tom1peyam: is it a bug in linux which makes computer run hotter?02:43
peyams02:43
peyam*02:43
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TJ-borgos: what does this report? "readlink /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager"02:43
Tom1peyam: what can i do solve this problem?02:43
peyamTom1, no! it's the wasy they work.  Power managers may cool down the system.02:43
peyamTom1, what is ur computer specification? AMD?02:44
peyamINTE?02:44
peyamIntel?02:44
borgosTJ-: /usr/bin/gnome-session02:44
Tom1peyam: mine is a intel q6600 quad core processor02:44
Tom1peyam:8 gb ram02:44
TJ-borgos: Good02:44
Tom1peyam:750 gb hdd02:44
borgosim shocked :)02:44
rwwTom1: graphics card?02:45
Tom1peyam: i am intel integrated graphics chip02:45
peyamTom1, okej. Clearly Windows wants to use full power of you system. It can be becouse of the drivers. but it's still not a problem! if you concern about your electricity consuption then you can adjust the graphics and turn off some services and startups02:46
peyamTom1, but still how hot is ur computer? on windows and Linux?02:46
peyamOn battery power it's the other way. Linux in generell uses alot more battery than windows. I don't know why02:47
Tom1peyam: on linux its runs around 65 c and on windows 7 it runs around 41-43 c02:47
peyamTom1, ohh ohh. it's the other way02:47
peyamsorry02:47
peyamis it a laptop?02:47
chroBeldar: which version should I download? I don't find any link for an ISO, my arch is x6402:47
Tom1peyam: its a desktop02:47
Tom1peyam: and in linux the task manager shows that i have very less cpu usage and very low ram usage but still the temp is high02:48
Tom1very complicated02:48
peyamTom1, yes 65 is high for  desktop on linux02:48
Tom1yes02:48
Tom1but on window 7 it runs arounf 43 c02:48
peyamwhat is ur distro?02:48
Arafangionpeyam: I've heard similar...  Manufacturers tend to focus more on power management lately.  I've heard that if you want to run linux on the mac books, for instance, the most efficient way is to isntall OS X, and then linux in a VM, simply because OS X is where apple put their power management.02:48
Tom1peyam: ubuntu 12.1002:49
Arafangionpeyam: I wouldn't be surprised if most of the other manufacturers do similar with windows and their systems.02:49
peyamArafangion, yes. Lenovo has done a excellent job lately with power managing! That's why i love IBM computers02:49
TJ-borgos: on the possibility that recent package upgrade has broken the system, how about ensuring the system is entirely up-to-date? "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:49
cassiohey guys. so I rebooted my minimal installation02:49
peyamTom1, It can be a bug in kernel since the k ernel in 12.10 is old02:49
cassioit seems okay02:49
Arafangionpeyam: Lenovo systems haven't been IBM for at least a decade.02:49
cassiobut, there are no icons in the unity dock thing02:50
cassiohas anyone seen this problem before?02:50
Tom1peyan: i see, i will try the newer ubuntu, does it runs cooler on computers?02:50
peyamArafangion, yes. I meant lenevo system,. I got myself two of them. People still dont know that Lenovo was originally IBM computers.02:50
peyamTom1, right now on Xubuntu I have 3402:50
cassiopeyam, yes lenovo was the original mfr of ibm thinkpads02:51
Tom1peyam: that nice , 34 c is very low temp,02:51
Arafangionpeyam: The impression I had was that IBM outsourced manufacture of their laptops (and later, desktops) to Lenovo, but allowed them to rebrand them as IBM.02:51
peyamArafangion, the point was that the power management system works excelent02:51
peyamArafangion, I would love to have a IBM brand on my thinkpads02:51
Arafangionpeyam: They probably kept to publised standards.02:51
TJ-borgos: Once you've done that, let's delete lightdm's authority file with "sudo service lightdm stop; sudo rm /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority" ... then try restarting the DM, with "sudo service lightdm start"02:51
Arafangionpeyam: Why?02:52
Tom1 peyam: i have a q600 quad core cpu , 8 gb ram and 750 gb hdd, are these specs sufficient to run newer ubuntu?02:52
peyamTom1, Yes, XFCE is very light and I have a nice spu fan. it's a noctua :D02:52
peyamTom1, yes. if you can have win 7 so you can have ubuntu :D02:53
Tom1peyam thanks for info buddy, i will install newer ubuntu and see what happens02:53
ArafangionTom1: Ubuntu seems to work fine on my eeePC laptop, although it's very slow to run apps (which I suspect is due to not having installed it yet... It's runnign from Live USB).02:54
peyamTom1, I would go with xubuntu. you would love it!02:54
ArafangionTom1: Doesn't support the eeePC touchpad though, not sure why.  Also it's an Atom CPU.02:54
Tom1 peyam: which version of xubuntu peyam?02:54
peyamI use 13.04 :)02:54
Tom1i see02:55
Tom1how;s linux mint 16 xfce peyam, is it good ?02:55
peyamTom1, I dont like Mint sorry. I dont know what made me think that mint is nothing for me. .. I think Xubuntu is the best choice for xfce users02:56
cassiocAAIO02:56
ArafangionTom1: It's worth noting that mint, debian, and ubuntu, are all quite different.  Not actually familiar with mint myself, but as a debian user, ubuntu and debian are quite differetn.02:58
peyamDebian kiled my system once! :(02:59
ArafangionEh?02:59
peyamyeah. :(02:59
borgosTJ-:  I am running the update cmds now, will run the lightdm delete when its done in about 15 mins02:59
Arafangionpeyam: Please do elaborate.02:59
TJ-borgos: ouch, 15 mins?! I suspect deleting the Xauthority will be the solution, I'd forgotten about that one03:00
peyamArafangion, I dont remember but it's was something with grub i couldnt fix. and some drivers that refused to be installed03:00
TJ-borgos: I have to leave now, hope you get it sorted :)03:01
Arafangionpeyam: So you installed them from outside the debian repository.  Not debian's fault then!03:01
borgosTJ-:  i tried deleting xauthority before asking for help it didnt work03:01
peyamArafangion, totally true! but hte grub thing was a debian fault03:01
borgosthanks for your help03:01
TJ-borgos: The lightdm xauthority, or the user's home directory ?03:02
Arafangionpeyam: Possibly, was that while installing a debian kernel, or your own?03:02
borgosi dont remember lol03:02
Arafangionpeyam: If you did your own, did you follow debian's documentation? (make-kpkg and all that?)03:02
peyamdebian kernel. I dont remember but it was some point in november last year.. if it's newer version now03:02
Tom1peyam: i agree with you , i also used debian once and it gave me lot system crashes and made my windows 7 os unbootable and then i had to finally reinstall  windows 703:03
TJ-borgos: I'd suspect it was the /home/$USER/.Xauthority.  Check the date/time of the one in "sudo ls -latr /var/log/lightdm/" it's probably stale (from before the system crash)03:03
Arafangionpeyam: November... Which release?03:03
Tom1don;t know why,03:03
peyamI don't remember. wheezl something?03:03
Arafangionpeyam: Should've been stable.  Curious.03:03
peyamTom1, yes it's a common known. but there is a work around for it.03:04
peyamI love the Elementary choice of softwares03:04
peyamI didn't need to remove any unwished software when I once wanted to try it03:04
Tom1peyam: xubuntu is stable? i mean when i used ubuntu 12.10 it was giving me panic error ,messages just after booting into live mode, is it lot stable than ubuntu?03:05
peyamArafangion, I use HDMI cable now. if I switch to vga , do you think I wil be able to obtain the same resolution? 1920x108003:05
platonicI want to reboot.  But my reboot is croned.  What should I do?03:05
peyamTom1, yes. since you wana dual boot you will maybe maybe force to remake the grub. in that case you repair the boot!03:06
Tom1peyam; that will i do, have to repair the boot03:06
Tom1i will try the xubuntu 13.0403:07
Tom1and see if it reduces the cpu temps03:07
Arafangionpeyam: VGA tends to support very high resolutions, but you may get flickering or colour changes if there is too much interference.03:07
xeriumhi all03:07
peyamTom1, yes.. do it! IT wil defenatly do!03:07
Arafangionpeyam: VGA's an analogue system, after all.03:07
xeriumhas anyone had any issues with their wireless network connection dropping on and off?03:07
peyamArafangion, I prefer analog befor digital03:07
Tom1xerium: on ubuntu?03:07
Arafangionpeyam: Why?  The monitors are digital now.03:08
peyamxerium, yes on Eduroam I have that issue that I haven't been able to fix03:08
Arafangionpeyam: Digital -> Analogue -> Digital seems pointless.03:08
peyamArafangion, in generellt I like analog with no leakage03:08
ArafangionThere is always leakage.03:09
peyamArafangion, yes. that's the sad part03:09
JeckidyCxu vi parolas esperanton?03:09
peyamArafangion, are you an engineer ?03:09
Ben64uh, can we stay on topic please? Ubuntu support only03:09
peyamsory03:10
Arafangionpeyam: Yes, please get back on topic. :)03:10
Ben64just use #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat03:10
chrohow can I check if everything is OK with my ubuntu installation/packages ?03:18
Arafangionchro: I'd use the eyeball method.03:19
Arafangionchro: What reason do you have to suspect that your ubuntu installation or packages are not OK?03:19
chroArafangion: because I got errors while upgrading to 13.10, out of disk space03:20
chrothen I rebooted, and it says I'm running 13.1003:20
Arafangionchro: Then I might suggest that not everything is OK with your Ubuntu installation.03:20
Arafangionchro: In particular, perhaps you have run out of disk space?03:20
chroArafangion: so, what can I do to fix it? I already deleted stuff and now I have 2 more GB03:20
Arafangionchro: I'm not familiar with Ubuntu's partition scheme, however if you now have enough disk space in the right partitions, then you should be OK there, although your installation might be incomplete.03:22
Arafangionchro: I would probably just re-install those specific packages if you find or suspect an issue, eg, if Libreoffice doesn't start, I'd reinstall that.03:22
chrook03:23
Arafangionchro: But if you have enough disk space (now) and everything seems to be fine, I wouldn't worry.03:23
Arafangionchro: I do, however, recommend you maintain your backups, but I always say that.03:23
chrothanks03:24
chaotic_goodbackups!!!03:30
chaotic_goodthier pissa!03:30
rwwo.O03:31
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TraucetSorry Linux fans. Had to go back to Windows. Only have so many weeks to try and make things I like work. Nvidia Drivers, Wine, WoW, Pipelight(Netflix).03:38
ArafangionUnderstandable. Consider using a VM instead of dualbooting if you're considering that, too.03:39
chaotic_goodTraucet: good for u!03:40
chaotic_goodlol03:40
TraucetHate Dual booting, but I will put one instance of Ubuntu in a VM.03:40
ArafangionVM's on windows are very good - some, like VMware, even do 3D acceleration, if I hear right03:41
ArafangionNot sure if they do that with a linux guest though.03:42
TraucetNever tried it as I just used it as a web deveopment stack.03:43
ArafangionFair enough.03:44
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TraucetAlthough, I gave it a fair go as the sole OS on the system. Tried Several flavors of Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Arch..Ohh well.03:45
ArafangionTraucet: Those all have fairly different ways of doign things.03:46
TraucetExactly the reason I tried them.03:47
TraucetWssnt working in, maybe changing up a bit would do the trick. Unfortunately not so much.03:48
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smulverinehi all, is there a way to export desktop settings to another machine?03:58
smulverinebeen using unity for a few weeks and i want to copy the settings my laptop03:58
smulverinelooked online but can't find anything about it03:59
Guest6737?04:02
Beldarsmulverine, compiz has an export, really depends on what you have done, many apps have exports or configs.04:04
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Tom1Beldar: hello04:04
smulverineBeldar: well, it's still rather vanilla04:05
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smulverineBeldar: haven't changed anything, in fact04:06
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smulverineBeldar: so I have to install the compiz configuration manager?04:06
smulverineBeldar: apart from some keyboard shortcuts :S04:07
Beldarsmulverine, I believe so it's not in the install, but compiz is there.04:07
smulverineBeldar: okay, let me try.  thanks04:07
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jerkeyhey, can anyone here (not themill) tell me what source i can find this package in: https://packages.debian.org/sid/android-tools-adb04:20
krazzhello04:21
rwwjerkey: 1) this isn't a Debian channel, though I'm assuming you don't like #debian. 2) "Download Source Package android-tools"04:23
Yakisoba-Hi ! can you help me with this. Ubuntu 12 04. I can't see other PC in local network from Ubuntu. maybe something wrong in smb.conf?04:23
jerkeyrww thank you, i'm trying to figure out how to add it to my /etc/apt/sources.list but i'm new to this stuff04:24
rwwjerkey: are you using debian wheezy or something else?04:25
jerkeyi'm running crunchbang.  I guess i figured it out, it was "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ sid main" but i would like to know the correct way to find out things like this (i just tried random things until it worked)04:26
rwwno, not sid. it's in wheezy-backports04:26
rwwas the top right says04:26
rwwwheezy-backports will break less stuff if you're on wheezy than sid will04:26
rwwdeb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main04:26
rwwwhich I got by googling wheezy-backports and ending up at http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/04:27
rwwAnyways. We don't support Crunchbang and neither does #debian. #crunchbang is the place for support questions in future.04:27
skippydoohello, i would like to destroy the nouveau drivers and install drivers i got right from nvidia.  how might i do this (right now i had to hit ctrl - alt - f1) to be able to do anything. also, the computer can't get online yet.04:28
jerkeythank you rww04:29
rwwyou're welcome :)04:29
Pinkamena_Dany easy command I could type right now which would say: suspend this computer in three hours?04:30
rwwPinkamena_D: leaving the terminal open in the meantime?04:30
rww(easier if you do, but either way is possible)04:31
Pinkamena_Dyes04:31
rwwsleep 3h; pm-suspend04:31
Pinkamena_Dnice04:31
rwwpm-suspend might need sudo, i forget04:32
Pinkamena_Dneeds sudo I presume?04:32
rwwif so, it'd be sleep 3h; sudo pm-suspend04:32
rwwoh, but then password... hrm.04:32
Pinkamena_DI could just sudo su first, or that would expire after a while?04:32
rwwoh true, that would work04:32
QuinnStormsudo su doesn't expire04:33
Pinkamena_Dcool04:33
QuinnStormit launches a new shell as root, so until you log out that context it has root privs04:33
QuinnStorm'sudo su -' if you want it to be a bit nicer to use04:33
Pinkamena_Dnicer?04:34
QuinnStormit sets up the shell and such as though you logged in as root instead of preserving a bunch of the user environment04:34
QuinnStormits just...cleaner04:34
QuinnStormdoesn't matter really for this instance04:35
skippydooahem04:37
skippydoocough cough04:37
agent_whiteHello everyone04:42
LCyrinhai irc04:43
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* agent_white waves04:44
NavinRJohnsonHey everyone, I got a networking question. Computer A) IP-192.168.x.x and cant use any port forwarding from router.  Computer B) linux vps with ssh server.  I want to host a service on Computer A but have clients connect to IP:Port of Computer B, is this possible? I understand how to make outgoing ssh tunnels work if that helps at all.04:45
agent_whiteNavinRJohnson: Just a heads up, take this lightly since this might not be the best answer... but... Does computer A have iptables? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-port-redirection-with-iptables/04:49
agent_whiteOr possibly would you be looking to setup a proxy server on computer A?04:50
NavinRJohnsonno i should have mentioned the os of computer A is win704:51
chaotic_goodanyone here use ubuntu as a router?04:51
agent_whiteNavinRJohnson: In that case I have no idea. But ##networking should be plenty of help!04:53
NavinRJohnsonagent_white: I wasnt sure where to put this question but #networking would make a lot more sense. Thanks04:54
agent_whiteNavinRJohnson: Of course! Might as well 'spray n' pray' ;)04:55
NavinRJohnsonagent_white: I agree. Accuracy by volume.04:55
chaotic_goodha proxy is kinda nice04:56
chaotic_goodno one now needs f5 load balancer or cisco netscalers04:56
chaotic_goodexcept arrgant network goon managers04:56
Wash_JonesHey all. I'm trying to install the id3 system, but at the end of the ./configure process it gives me this error "configure: error: Missing a vital header file for id3lib". I didn't have automake/autoconf or zlib installed, but now I do, and it's still saying that. Anyone know what's up?04:57
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agent_whiteWash_Jones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18545/installing-suggested-recommended-packages05:06
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skippydoohello, i would like to destroy the nouveau drivers and install drivers i got right from nvidia.  how might i do this (right now i had to hit ctrl - alt - f1) to be able to do anything. also, the computer can't get online yet.05:08
agent_whiteskippydoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Removing_Nouveau_.28advanced.2BAC8-expert_users.2905:11
agent_whiteskippydoo: For future Googling endeavors; "drivers right from nvidia" are called 'proprietary drivers'.05:12
chaotic_goodyeah05:13
chaotic_goodyeahhhhh05:13
chaotic_goodapt-get install -y xorg05:13
chaotic_gooddone05:13
chaotic_gooduse iceWM05:13
chaotic_goodfirefox05:13
chaotic_goodpidgin05:13
agent_whitei305:13
chaotic_goodgnumeric05:13
* agent_white giggles05:14
skippydoothanks agent_white i'm trying just now to manually (ctrl alt f1 ) instal the .run file from nvid... but as soon as that happens, it says 'dude, yer running x, stop that crap.'  how can i kill the x that seems to somehow be running?05:14
rwwchaotic_good: in addition to unopaste's questionable communication, please increase your signal-to-noise ratio in general, since this *is* a support channel after all.05:14
rwwskippydoo: sudo service lightdm stop, probably05:14
skippydooif in there i type "who" it shows me trying to be in tty8. what was it again that i can kill tty8?05:15
skippydoo(that cmd you said seems to have worked)05:15
agent_whiteskippydoo: Googles for "kill tty session"05:17
agent_whiteskippydoo: http://kb.iu.edu/data/adqw.html  --or-- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15195470/how-to-kill-the-tty-in-unix05:17
skippydoook, fine. i just thought it was a simple command that i used to know....05:17
agent_whiteskippydoo: Oh no my friend! Just trying to help your Google skills! It helps to know "what to Google for", ya know?05:18
Wash_JonesHey, White, thanks for that, by the way. Didn't notice because I actually wound up finding a guide elsewhere that solved my problem, but thanks anyhow!05:20
Wash_JonesI'll probably still find it useful.05:20
skippydooagent_white, i think i'm ok... but i wondering if i need to kill that old nvidia driver now that it's trying to put on this new one.05:21
skippydoothis prop one05:21
agent_whiteskippydoo: What _I_ do when I'm installing a new video driver is ensure I'm logged in with a single shell session. No window managers, etc.05:22
skippydooagent_white, i was in the ctrl alt f1 place -- if you know what i mean.05:23
agent_whiteskippydoo: So just... only "command prompt"?05:23
agent_whiteskippydoo: If you're iffy, I would say to restart your machine and get back to that "command prompt".05:24
skippydoowell, that didn't work. x is crying now.... says it's not config'd right.05:24
agent_whiteWell it can cry, as long as it's not crying for nouveau.05:25
skippydooi hate video drivers.05:25
agent_whiteMe too.05:25
skippydoowish they just worked like windows.05:25
skippydooall i bloody want to do is get rid of these drivers and use ones i got right from nvidia.05:25
agent_whiteWhat for, anyways?05:26
AussieDownUnderI thought nvidia were supposed to work better than amd on linux. I'm using amd & the drivers put themself on05:26
AussieDownUnderskippydoo, did you go to the system settings - additional drivers section?05:26
skippydoocause i boot to a blk scr   can't do anything unless i hit ctrl alt f105:26
AussieDownUnderIf you wait at that screen options for drivers should come up05:26
AussieDownUnderskippydoo, did you just install ubuntu?05:26
agent_whiteNvidia work worse, and being "close-source" as proprietary code/drivers tend to be... unless you have a usecase NEEDING the proprietary drivers, nouveau are better off.05:26
skippydooi can't go to .... cause my scr is blk!!!!!05:26
skippydoothis is my EXACT problem:   http://luizfar.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/how-to-switch-off-xps1340-discrete-video-card-on-linux/05:27
agent_whiteskippydoo: Don't lose hope! This shit is where you learn those lessons that you NEVER forget. :)05:27
skippydoocept his instructions are old and don't work anymore.05:27
agent_whiteskippydoo: Did you follow my link? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Removing_Nouveau_.28advanced.2BAC8-expert_users.2905:27
skippydooagent_white, looking now...05:28
skippydoothat makes sense to my problem. sorry i missed that.05:29
agent_whiteskippydoo: Follow it _closely_. Also, to be sure you got everything removed, I generally do the "apt-get search noueavu | grep installed" to see if I accidentally forgot to remove something.05:29
skippydoosays invalid searcch05:31
skippydoothis is just stupid. i need xp or something....05:35
skippydooit can't do winders 7... can't do linux... what the heck.05:35
skippydooi hate this laptop.05:35
skippydooi wanna stab the person at nvidia that thunk it was a cool idea to put in two graphics cards in a laptop.05:36
Tazenlol05:38
andrynvidia optimus?05:38
skippydooit is a dell 1340 with two gfx cards.05:42
skippydoono one can make this work now...05:42
CPPLINHow to I increase the size of the root file system ? .. I actually formatted two xp drives.. I wanted to add the extra space to the root file system05:42
andryskippydoo, one intel, one nvidia?05:43
CPPLINI had a dual boot of xp and ubuntu.. now from ubuntu I formatted the xp drives to ext4.. but they just automount as drives..05:43
skippydooCPPLIN, type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted         in a terminal window    -   hit ctrl alt t to get that05:43
skippydooboth nvidia05:43
QuinnStormCPPLIN: gparted won't resize the root filesystem, and if they are separate disks you actually need something like lvm to pull them together into one fs05:43
QuinnStormCPPLIN: that is it won't resize it if its booted from that root fs05:44
QuinnStormyou'd need to boot from a liveusb or something05:44
skippydooooh, well, yeah, what quinigan is saying is right. just do it from a live cd or a live usbkey that's the best way.05:44
andrydid you add busid in xorg.conf? to define the primary card? i guess you get no x screen?05:45
CPPLINQunnStorm: its a single disk..with different logical drives.05:45
QuinnStormok05:45
QuinnStormso different partitions05:45
CPPLINyes05:45
QuinnStormthen yeah you'll just need to boot a livecd/liveusb and run gparted from it05:45
QuinnStormI think there's even a gparted live distro05:45
QuinnStormdo be careful not to interrupt it while its working though (make sure you're plugged in if its a laptop, etc.)05:46
skippydooandry, no. i have no clue what i'm doing. i'm about to cry.  i do / must kill the 9200 card and only use the 9400 card. that would help sooo much. and solve my probs.05:46
CPPLINok.. but Last time when I checked live cd for 10.04 I guess I didn't find gparted.05:46
andryskippydoo, can you run lspci |grep -i nvidia ?05:47
CPPLINI have created a usb for 12.04.. hope it helps05:47
xennygrimmatoIs there any way I can install libboost-1.49 on Ubuntu 12.04 ? When I try to install it, I get an error saying it is "not installable".05:47
skippydooandry, pm ok? i'm really going nuts here at this point.05:47
andryok05:47
QuinnStormit might be on that, I don't remember05:47
QuinnStormif it gets internet you can probably apt-get install it05:47
QuinnStormif it isn't there05:47
PRC_Boyhi all05:48
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HayleySabrinahello06:11
HayleySabrinacan you help me how to block ip from accessing ssh?06:11
moyam01HayleySabrina: iptables -A INPUT -p -tcp -dport 22 -s ip.being.blocked -j DENY06:13
moyam01assuming your ssh server is running on port 2206:14
moyam01you migh want to also take a look at faul to ban06:15
moyam01correction fail to ban06:15
somsipmoyam01: fail2ban, just to clarify06:17
moyam01somsip: yeah your right, thanks06:17
chaotic_goodanyone here a value based consultant?06:18
chaotic_goodas opposed to a wageslave?06:18
HayleySabrinait said : unknown protocol "-tcp" specified06:19
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k0feei'm on natty on my other box i'm trying to install openvpn, leafpad, conky and hexedit what's the repository i should use, for some reason my list isn't working07:01
emirhow can I only display pwd in PS1 terminal header, without displaying user@host ?07:03
tozenk0fee: http://pogidude.com/2013/how-to-install-packages-for-end-of-life-ubuntu-editions/07:05
geirharemove the \u and \h ...?07:05
deriiihow i install a driver on ci ?\07:08
geirhaemir: the part between   \[\e]0; and \a\]   ends up as xterm title. Remove everything but \w07:09
mandabajuhitamhi? can you help me bro?07:10
mandabajuhitami'm #opnewblood07:11
emirI've insert PS1="${PWD} \$ " and that does it... it only displays pwd, but it's not permanent... how do I make it permanent ?07:11
geirhaemir: that only changes your prompt, not the terminal title, but anyway, you put it in ~/.bashrc to make it "permanent"07:12
Tazmainhi all, with a ubuntu minimal install what would be better to install unity or xubuntu ?07:12
geirhaemir: Oh, and you used the wrong quotes. You need '' quotes there, not "" quotes07:13
mandabajuhitami'd find tools of ubuntu.. can you help me?07:13
k0feetozen i see the isos to download but no repo lists currently going ok for natty07:13
k0feeif i have to i'll download the iso just to mount it copy the repo files over07:13
k0feeafter this i'm going to dd mirror the drive so won't have to go through this again07:14
emir@geirha I don't have ~/.bashrc in ~/ only bash_history and bach_logout... I make it or what ?07:14
geirhaemir: Then you've either removed it, or your user got created in a weird way07:14
emir@geirha I have no idea how that happened... did I mentioned that I'm on linux mint mate07:15
geirhaOh, this channel is for Ubuntu support07:16
mandabajuhitamoh come on!!! why you didn't see my text07:16
emirwell I'm thinking is the same thing at the end :)07:17
agent_wh1teNight folks!07:17
geirhamandabajuhitam: I see you, but don't understand your question.07:17
geirha!mint | emir07:18
ubottuemir: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:18
emirok thanks07:18
geirha!pm | mandabajuhitam07:21
ubottumandabajuhitam: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.07:21
mandabajuhitamdo you know some DDOS tools for ubuntu?07:21
ikoniamandabajuhitam: not something appropritar for this channel07:21
ikoniaappropriate07:22
mandabajuhitamok @ikonia07:23
ikoniathanks07:23
mandabajuhitamyou're wellcome07:23
jasabelleim trying to set up my scanner with SANE but i dont know where to start: all these guidesaretalking about inetd xinetd?07:23
ikoniajasabelle: you can use inetd and xinetd07:24
jasabelleorr? (im on ubuntu server)07:24
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mandabajuhitamwho knows the channel abouts of opnewblood?07:26
jasabellei type man inetd and man xinetd and i dont have any infocome up07:26
jasabelleshould i install xinetd? (i.e. sudo apt-get install xinetd)07:26
jasabellei read somewhere it's deprecated07:26
ikoniamandabajuhitam: this channel is for ubuntu technical support only - please stick to that topic07:27
Tazmainmandabajuhitam, opnewblood here ?07:27
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Kartagismy disk has reiserfs on it, but testdisk doesn't list reiserfs. any ideas what I can choose?07:28
ikoniaKartagis: you should only select the file system you are using - nothing else07:28
Kartagisikonia: I have Intel, EFI GPT, Humax, Mac, None, Sun, Xbox07:29
ikoniaKartagis: what has that got to do with anything ?07:29
ikoniathey are just random words07:29
Kartagisoh damn, it said partition table type07:30
Kartagisnot filesystem07:30
Kartagissorry for the language07:30
Kartagisikonia: have you got an idea what partition table type I should choose?07:30
jasabellelol coredump07:31
ikoniaKartagis: what partition table are you using.....07:31
Kartagisikonia: no idea, how can I check?07:31
ikoniaopen the disk in a partition editor07:32
Kartagislike gparted? and then?07:32
FuuqUmiisthonest answer, would there be an issues when upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04?07:34
grahamsavageconverting flac to mp3 in ubuntu.. any ideas?07:34
grahamsavagei've tried ffmpeg and soundconverter.. both many errors out of both07:34
jasabelleis inetd/xinetd deprecated in ubuntu 12.04.4 lts?07:35
jasabelle(server)07:35
PRC_Boy大家好07:36
Kartagis!cn | PRC_Boy07:37
ubottuPRC_Boy: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:37
grahamsavageI like big houses07:37
ikoniagrahamsavage: that is nothing to do with this channel07:37
ikoniagrahamsavage: please check this channels topic07:38
grahamsavageikonia: context07:38
ikoniagrahamsavage: no07:38
jasabelleso are the packages the ubuntu installer offers to install after OS installation the versions which are tested as being stable wiyth the LTS release?07:46
jasabelle(as oppoesd to the apt-get ones, which are newer but not neccessarily more stable)07:47
akiva-mobileis ubuntu theming recommended? I notice that you can't really import themes anymore,07:53
jotajhello07:53
jotaji have one answer about "be ubuntu mirror"07:53
akiva-mobileI wanted to get a sublime text theming.07:53
akiva-mobilejotaj, be ubuntu mirror?07:53
jotaji need to config what i want to download from ubuntu07:53
jotaji need to restrict betas etc07:54
akiva-mobilejotaj, you have a question, or an answer?07:54
jotajquestion XD sorry07:54
akiva-mobileah07:54
akiva-mobilejotaj, is english your first language?07:55
akiva-mobilejotaj, just asking, because there may be an ubuntu channel which you can speak natively.07:55
jnhghyHow do I install google chrome stable on my ubuntu 12.04? I've checked with uname -a and it outputed: Linux any-945GCMX-S2 3.2.0-24-generic-pae #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 10:47:59 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux07:56
akiva-mobilejnhghy, google chrome, or Chromium?07:56
jnhghychrome07:57
akiva-mobilehummmm, why not chromium ?07:57
jnhghyakiva-mobile: ubuntu doesn't support chrome?07:57
akiva-mobilejnhghy, you can get anything to run on ubuntu07:58
akiva-mobilefrom what I understand, chromium would be better, but  :P07:58
jnhghyakiva-mobile: well I tired chromium like 1 year ago and didn't liked it ... and would like to use chrome ... but I'm having trouble installing it ...07:59
akiva-mobilejnhghy, okay; fair enough.07:59
akiva-mobilemight want to try chromium again, although im not sure if its updated on 12.0408:00
grahamsavagei'm looking for a programming to rename files.. something simple like replace /.*(\d\d).*/ with \1    I've tried 5 applications now08:02
grahamsavagenone of them seem to support this.. id like somethign with a preview mode08:02
akiva-mobilegrahamsavage, uhmm so you have a bunch of files that need renaming?08:02
grahamsavagei can do it using sed / or perl but i'd prefer not too08:02
wsnipexsed08:02
akiva-mobilegrahamsavage, oh well I was going to suggest python. :P08:02
wsnipexor bash directly08:03
akiva-mobile^08:03
grahamsavagewsnipix: yeah i do it all the time so i'd like one where i can preview the output08:03
akiva-mobilegrahamsavage, want to pay me? I'll make you a python script that does that  :P08:04
wsnipexmake a script thats accepts  a switch for preview08:04
somsipgrahamsavage: does this point you in a helpful direction? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15380205/rename-multiple-files-in-bash08:04
grahamsavageohhhh08:07
grahamsavagerename -n 's/.*(\d\d).*/1x$1.mp3/08:07
grahamsavagevery nice :D08:07
somsipgrahamsavage: I won't vouch for the validity of what you've just suggested, but a test on a sample of files should give you a good enough test08:08
grahamsavageyeah it works great08:08
somsipgrahamsavage: cool08:08
grahamsavageand the -n is a preview08:08
grahamsavagelol.. all the gui apps were a waste of time08:09
geirhaJust note that rename is not a standard command and that several different commands by that name exist. For instance, that command won't work on a redhat system, since it has a different rename command installed by default.08:10
cateractHey I"m trying to share my laptop wifi with my android device,08:12
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cateractI found that it can be done using hostapd08:13
cateractbut I could not connect using hostapd, it gives error08:13
cateractlike ""Failed to update rate sets in kernel module""08:14
cateractand "could not connect to kernel driver"08:14
cateractand at last "Failed to set beacon parameters"08:15
cateractHow do i overcome this error08:15
jnhghywhat is the chromium package name to be used with apt-get in ubuntu 12.04? I tried chromium-bsu but the mirror seems to be down any other package?08:17
somsip!info chromium-browser precise08:19
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 33.0.1750.152-0ubuntu0.12.04.1~pkg879.1 (precise), package size 35664 kB, installed size 128080 kB08:19
banana_sup08:23
Tazmainhi all, can I do a do-release-upgrade over ssh ?08:23
jnhghywhy do I get : W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden08:24
jnhghy on apt-get update?08:24
ilhamihey08:25
ilhamiI cant login08:25
ilhamiI cant get past login screen!!!!08:25
DJonesTazmain: You can, although the system will warn you against doing it because you may lose connection due to some updates causing a disconnect08:25
ilhamiwhat do I do?08:25
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DJonesTazmain: If the machine isn't local to you, if you do get disconnected, potentially you could find yourself unable to regain access to the machine being updated08:26
somsipjnhghy: It's Packages.bz2 or Packages.gz http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/08:26
somsipjnhghy: oh..on apt-get update. Didn't see that08:26
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TazmainDJones, well there is a rescue console they provide. Would you recommned upgrading to 13.10 ?08:31
DJonesTazmain: Are you on 13.04? If so yes, 13.04 is end of life anyway so you won't be getting security/bug fix updates08:32
OorpUbuntu can't execute .c files in an NTFS partition??08:32
TazmainDJones, yea on 13.04 , minimal install08:32
DJonesTazmain: In that case I'd update to make sure you've got security updates08:33
karthickhi08:36
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TazmainDJones, I still don't why they would install ubuntu-raring-minial on a server but oh well.08:36
Guest13224ji08:36
Guest13224hello08:37
DJonesTazmain: Yeah, you'd think they'd install the server release08:37
Ben64how can you tell the difference between server and minimal08:37
Guest13224is there any way to install skype in ubuntu08:38
TazmainDJones, yup whats worse, is that I have vncserver install but I cant get xorg up08:38
DJones!skype | Guest1322408:38
ubottuGuest13224: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga08:38
Guest13224thanks08:38
OorpGuest13224: You v=can go to Skype's website and download the deb files...08:38
Ben64Tazmain: a server doesn't really need xorg or graphics or anything, ssh is good08:38
OorpGuest13224: Follow ubottu's instructions!!08:39
makaraare there any good blogs or pundits who talk about the line between Windows and Unix systems?08:39
makarait seems that usually someone is on one side or the other08:39
Guest13224try geekstuff.com08:39
TazmainBen64, yes true, but windows ppl here they need a GUI.08:39
makaraGuest13224, site is down for maintenance :(08:40
Ben64Tazmain: gui to open up config files? its pointless and less secure08:40
TazmainBen64, no to setup backup options and configure other services08:41
Ben64which is all text, so why does it need to be sent as an image08:41
TazmainBen64, don't ask me , i did not argue at this point08:41
TazmainBut using snyaptic is quicker than searchig the cache for a package08:42
Ben64if you want windows server, get windows server. if you want linux server, use it properly. vnc is not secure.08:42
bddyHello. How do I update from Ubuntu 12.04 to 13.10 ? It proposes 14.04 which is still alpha, but I want 13.1008:42
bddy(it = update-manager -d)08:42
* QuinnStorm honestly thinks that having guis is good but that not having a good quickstart guide to the unix basics is a big problem for people switching to linux, its important to understand *why* this system is what it is08:42
TazmainBen64, wel wont use vnc, will use remmina.08:42
Ben64remmina is a vnc client (among other things)08:43
Ben64bddy: 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10, but 13.04 is EOL and 12.10 will be soon, 13.10 EOL is in only 4 months, you should really just wait for 14.0408:44
TazmainBen64, well currently its on a need to use start only08:44
bddyBen64: So, there is no way to upgrade to anything newer than 12.04 but not 14.04?08:45
Ben64bddy: what do you have against 14.04? its the next LTS version08:45
bddyBen64: The upgrade window says that this is still alpha08:45
Tazmainwell can't you upgrade to 13.10 and then 14.04 ?08:45
Ben64bddy: well yeah, but if you wait a month it will be released08:46
bddyBen64: But I need to upgrade immediately, that's the problem :(08:46
Ben64why need?08:46
bddyBecause there is no awesome 3.5.2 for 12.0408:46
bddyAnd I can't work outside anything except awesome08:47
Ben64sounds more like "want" than need. and 3.5.2 isn't on 13.10 either08:48
bddyTazmain: Hey, you said "can't you upgrade to 13.10", I wish, I could, is this possible with update-manager or maybe there is another command?08:48
bddyBen64: Well, there are ppa-s for 13.1008:49
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TazmainBen64, do you know how to start lightdm manually for a second xserver , in the case of vnc ?08:49
oppouserr, is there a way to change root password without knowing it?  i know i can add few lines while booting and then change, but when i press shift while booting, my computer goes in a bootloop08:50
Ben64Tazmain: i doubt that is what you want to do. vnc servers can start their own x screens08:50
Ben64!root | oppous08:50
ubottuoppous: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo08:50
TazmainBen64, yeah I know but I keep getting failed to start session "gnome" and Ihave xbuntu installed08:51
oppousBen64: my user is not in sudoers08:51
oppousBen64: ^08:51
Ben64oppous: well what are you actually trying to accomplish08:51
Ben64Tazmain: just start the vnc server08:52
oppousroot password on my machine was changed, i dont know what it is now08:52
TazmainBen64, does not work, I log into it and get that error08:52
Ben64Tazmain: i'd also suggest having it listen on 127.0.0.1 only, and use a ssh tunnel to connect08:52
Ben64Tazmain: you're going to need to give a lot more details than that08:52
Ben64oppous: you shouldn't have had a root password. again, what are you trying to accomplish?08:53
oppousi change my passowrds on a weekly basis, just as a failsafe i have a file which i gpg. i lost that gpg file. so..08:53
oppousBen64: ^08:53
TazmainBen64, like I said I start vncserver log into it, and all I see if could not start session " gnome"08:53
Ben64Tazmain: ok, you're still not giving enough info. "start vncserver log into it" <--- explain that much better08:54
bddyIs it possible to install a package from PPA that is for another version?08:55
oppousBen64: i removed my current user from sudoers because im not the only one who uses this computer. this is a family computer basicallty.08:55
Ben64oppous: ok... and so what are you trying to accomplish? and what version of ubuntu? and you know, thats why you can create multiple accounts. one for you with sudo, one for family without08:56
TazmainBen64, in the log the only error i see is xrdb: can't open file '/root/.Xresources'08:56
Ben64Tazmain: don't run vnc as root...08:56
TazmainBen64, there is no other user currently lol08:57
oppousBen64: need to get root access. need rood priviliges to execute tasks. i know. i usually login into root and finish my work. other account is for familty08:58
oppousBen64: need to install new packages basically08:58
Ben64oppous: thats not really a good idea. you shouldn't be logging in to root at all. anyway, you can reset it from the recovery mode08:59
ale9392Hey guys, im using Ubuntu and Im getting the following SSL error:08:59
ale9392The certificate is only valid for the following names: ssl6799.cloudflare.com , *.locopengu.com , *.relationship-builder.net , *.wimdu.rs , *.workr.co.nz , locopengu.com , relationship-builder.net , wimdu.rs , workr.co.nz (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)08:59
ale9392Any idea what's going on?08:59
ale9392Other people I know that use the site arent getting it08:59
ale9392but i am, so could it be that I have misconfigured something?08:59
oppousBen64: i  know that. lol but when i press shift while booting i go into a bootloop. then i have to shutdown the machine and restart after 5mins or something and then i can boot normally09:00
Ben64oppous: thats not normal at all. if you can't get to grub then i don't know what to suggest for you09:00
oppousBen64: i read online that i can get root exploits. can't find any exploit for my computer. Linux HomePC 3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 14 15:31:16 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux09:02
oppousuname -a ^09:02
SireorionHi... Im a swedish dude.... I have som probs with ubuntu09:07
Sireorionso dont be hard on my spelling or grammer09:08
SireorionUEFI is an secure boot for WIN8. .. And its makes all s*it with the install09:09
Sireorioni need an dual boot with win 8 and ubuntu09:09
* Sireorion throws an granade in the chat so everybody wakes up09:09
Sireorioni guess all of u are sleepin09:10
Sireorionhello????09:12
bazhang!uefi | Sireorion09:12
ubottuSireorion: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI09:12
DJonesSireorion: Just be patient, if you don't get a response, I'd repeat the question in about 10-15 minutes09:12
Sireorionok09:13
Sireorionbazhang: : i have been reading that.. But i feel so stupid when i dont understand it09:13
Sireorion:S09:13
DJonesSireorion: Probably worth explaining the issue in a bit more detail though, what the problem you're getting is etc09:13
SireorionOkey.. its like this.. I have been dl the ubuntu and maked an bootble usb..09:14
Sireorionbut it cant even start the boot09:14
closinginubottu: uefi is a type of bios.09:15
closinginNot a replacement.09:15
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Sireorionbut are the UEFI compatible with ubuntu?09:15
closinginSireorion: This is not ubuntu based, it depends of grub09:15
closinginBut as for know, yes it is supported, you just have to install grub efi packages09:16
Sireorionand does it find my windows startup post ?09:16
closinginSireorion: You're friendly with grub ?09:17
Sireorionit have allways been installed automaticly when i have installed ubuntu in the past09:17
DJonesSireorion: I've only done one uefi install (and that has only been with the development release of Ubuntu), but that installed perfectly in dual boot with windows09:18
SireorionDJones: how did u do it?09:19
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closinginSireorion: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB_EFI_Examples09:20
DJonesSireorion: I just created a live usb & booted up with it and installed from that, does the usb stick boot up at all?09:20
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Sireorionno.. can it be that i have wrong version of ubuntu?09:21
DJonesSireorion: Have you installed ubuntu on this computer before, also, have you enabled usb boot in bios?09:22
SireorionNo not on this one... its a new laptop09:23
SireorionAcer E1-57109:23
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DJonesSireorion: Right, you'll need to make sure that the computer can boot from USB first, I'm not really familiar with uefi/bios but its probably a setting in the bios09:24
SireorionDJones: ill start up my other laptop so i can talk to u at the same time09:25
SireorionDJones: ill be back in 2 min09:28
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linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection09:29
linux_could anybody help plz?09:30
Sireorion_DJones: im back09:30
linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection. could anybody help me plz?09:30
naftilos76hightall, i have a problem with netbeans in ubuntu. Even though i can switch fine between languages Greek and English all around ubuntu, i can not do that in Netbeans. Can anybody help?09:34
linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection. could anybody help me plz?09:37
esperegu_anyone knows how what 'start on' I can use in upstart to start a program after audio and network etc is all started?09:40
linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection. could anybody help me plz?09:43
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Tazmainhi all, I am having some issue with my ubuntu-raring-minimal if I launch a vncserver and connect to it I keep getting failed to start session "gnome" logout. I have xubuntu installed though09:48
geirha!raring | Tazmain09:50
ubottuTazmain: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring09:50
Tazmaingeirha, I will upgrade as soon as I get this working, since I am doing it over ssh.09:50
Tazmaingeirha, so I can't upgrade just yet.09:51
linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection. could anybody help me plz?09:51
dt002g09:52
cloneGhello when trying to install performous from its website I get this message: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=6852209:56
cloneGhow do I choose gdebi from my system?09:56
ciro_sole a catinelle09:57
bazhang!info performous | cloneG09:57
ubottucloneG: performous (source: performous): karaoke game that allows user supplied songs. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.0-2 (saucy), package size 3638 kB, installed size 6508 kB09:57
bazhangcloneG, install from repos09:58
linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection. could anybody help me plz?10:00
cloneGbarzhang not latest version from there10:03
Welastevilhi everyone!10:03
Welastevilsomeone from Brasil?10:04
DJonesWelastevil: There probably are people from Brazil here, there's also #ubuntu-br which is the dedicated channel for the country10:04
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saedask for a cloak how do you get it?10:08
DJones!cloak | saed10:09
ubottusaed: To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.10:09
linux_hi everybody. I have a funny problem. ubuntu cant see my wireless modem connection while it can see other wireless connections. meanwhile my mobile and windows and other systems can see my  wireless modem connection. could anybody help me plz?10:11
pango24hello10:12
iFiredoes anyone with ubuntu and hd3000 tell me what this opengl version is10:16
iFiretheir*10:16
Sireorion_if i have an 64 bit cpu. is it amd64 iso file i should download?10:17
llutzSireorion_: yes10:18
Sireorion_llutz: but i dont have an amd cpu :S10:18
Sireorion_i5 64bit cpu10:18
llutzSireorion_: its ok for intel except ia64 too10:18
llutzSireorion_: amd just was the first with the 64bit extension, so the confusing name10:19
Sireorion_aaah ok.... :)10:19
Sireorion_is 13 ok?10:20
bazhangi3?10:22
Sireorion_no ubuntu 1310:23
bazhang13.10 sure10:23
bazhangor wait til next month, the 17th and get the LTS 14.0410:23
Sireorion_ok. ill do that10:24
ljsoftnethow do i mount usb flash drive as root?10:33
MrQuistsudo mount10:33
* cfhowlett wonders what issue that would solve ...10:33
ilhami2Hey10:45
ilhami2anybody here?10:45
ilhami2Connection doesnt work :S10:45
cfhowlettilhami, state your ubuntu questions10:45
ilhami2I cannot connect from my windows host to my ubuntu guest VM.10:45
ilhami2No bridging10:46
cfhowlettilhami, virtualbox?10:46
ilhami2Hyper-V10:46
cfhowlettilhami, over my head.  if there's a hyper-v channel/forum, you might want to check in there10:46
ilhami2if anyone can help  I would appreciate it10:47
sofakihello does anyone knows how can i change my IP adress using proxy (not on my browser)10:47
ilhami2I dont see any :)10:47
tsilishello everyone , i wanted some help with samba and public share between ubuntu 13 and multiple windows machines (xp , 7)10:47
tsiliscan anyone help?10:48
cfhowlettilhami2, hyper-v appears to be a windows product.  ask there10:48
sofakihello does anyone knows how can i change my IP adress using proxy (not on my browser)10:48
cfhowlett!patience|sofaki,10:48
ubottusofaki,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/10:48
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akiva-mobilederklork, hey10:49
akiva-mobilederklork, are you using firefox?10:49
akiva-mobileoh wait10:49
akiva-mobilenot on your browser :P10:49
Sireorion_how should i partionate my 150 gb hd for 10.04?10:55
rannongawhy are you using an eol release?10:56
z8zgood question10:58
cfhowlettSireorion_, you should not.  use 12.0410:58
z8zor wait for 14.0410:58
z8zjust 1 month10:59
wasanzyhi11:01
wasanzywhen I do uname -a, the output: 3.2.0-40-generic-pae #64-Ubuntu does it mean it is 64bit ununtu?11:02
DrFooIs it normal to have a wifi card come up as eth2?11:02
cfhowlettwasanzy, it does11:02
wasanzyok11:02
Sireorion_cfhowlett: i meant 12.0411:03
cfhowlettwasanzy, have you upgraded recently?  i've got 3.2.0-60 ...11:03
cfhowlettSireorion_, ubuntu only on your computer?11:03
Sireorion_yeap11:05
Sireorion_no no no win8 also11:05
cfhowlettSireorion_, personally I split 50/50 for ubuntu/windows.  then I put 10 gigs for /    2 X ram for swap and the rest in a dedicated /home11:06
cfhowlett!YMMV11:06
ubottuymmv is short for "Your mileage may vary". It means that someone else's experience with compatibility, performance etc. may not necessarily match yours. Also see !wfm11:06
Sireorion_!wfm11:07
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/11:07
Sireorion_!grub211:07
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub211:07
munchausunwhy you know it ? sireorion11:08
Sireorion_know what?11:08
cfhowlettSireorion_, I should also mention I run win711:08
Sireorion_cfhowlett: ok. with an normal pc without UEFI?11:09
munchausunabout no no no win811:09
cfhowlettSireorion_, right.  I've not yet had the pleasure of uefi11:09
Sireorion_i have maked it start now with liveusb11:10
Sireorion_and installing it while we talk11:10
DrFooWhere can I find the b43 wireless driver?11:10
cfhowlett!uefi|Sireorion_,11:10
ubottuSireorion_,: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI11:10
cfhowlett!broadcom|DrFoo,11:10
ubottuDrFoo,: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx11:10
Sireorion_i hope not win8 chrashes now11:11
tsilishello everyone , i wanted some help with samba and public share between ubuntu 13 and multiple windows machines (xp , 7)11:15
g105bIn 13.10 what's the recommended way to restart the display of Unity/Compiz when things start to look a bit unhealthy? I'd rather not reboot because of the work I'm doing.11:18
Sireorion_!terminal11:22
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal11:22
derklorkcan someone help me with proxy?11:25
biaxshttp://xdcc_CANCEL_X139522729811:27
biaxsxdcc_CANCEL_X139522729811:27
Sireorion_cfhowlett: i maked it work11:33
cfhowlettSireorion_, sweet!  congratulations!  14.04 will arrive next month.  Personally I only install LTS11:34
Sireorion_cfhowlett: canijust update it or do i need to do a new installation?11:34
rommelisnt ubuntu looking at going to a rolling release11:35
cfhowlettSireorion_, direct upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 if you set upgrade to "LTS only"11:35
DJonesrommel: It was considered, but not planned at the moment11:35
Sireorion_cfhowlett: how doi do that?11:36
rommelSireorion_, it will ask you on the installation media11:36
rommelDJones, whats the length of support on 14.04 3 or 5 yrs11:37
cfhowlettSireorion_, system>update manager>software sources>updates>Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: for long-term support versions11:37
tracyone511:37
DJonesrommel: 14.04 is LTS so will be 5 years11:37
rommelnice11:37
Sireorion_cfhowlett: tnxm811:37
cfhowlettSireorion_, enjoy.11:38
rommelso what does that mean then for mir ... is it out of the picture for at least 5 yrs11:38
DJonesrommel: It'll probably just arrive in one of the interim releases, maybe 14.10 or 15.0411:39
cfhowlett!mir11:40
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir11:40
cfhowlettwell that factoid needs to be updated - no mir in 14.04.11:40
kongthaphi is it possible to start another instance of apache2 using -f ?, so apache will load a custom config file11:41
rommelyeah i think 14.04 isnt seeing that or shell 811:42
tracyonedoes vga drivers need to be updated  after ubuntu use mir as display server11:42
rommelthe tablet and mobile device thing are dragging out a bit too11:42
biaxshxdcc_CANCEL_X139522733511:44
biaxsxdcc_CANCEL_X139522733511:44
DJonesbiaxs: This is Ubuntu support, do you have a support issue?11:45
sireorioncfhowlett, where is system ?11:45
rommelhis keyboard is stuck on repeat11:45
rommelsireorion, software update i think he was talking about11:46
rommelyou can do it from an iso too11:46
cfhowlettrommel, help him out - he needs to set updates to LTS only11:46
cfhowlettsireorion, I'm on xubuntu so a bit different11:46
rommelhell i'm on ubuntu-gnome11:46
rommellol11:46
rommeland i have only used it a week11:47
sireorioncfhowlett, okey... its not the same11:47
sireorionbye sireorion_ =)11:47
cfhowlettsireorion, if you can find update manager, you'll get it11:47
sireorionok'11:48
etropeholas11:50
cfhowlett!es|etrope,11:50
ubottuetrope,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:50
rommelyeah look for updates on this its a tab then at the options. iam on 13.04 so i get no update. but as a lts if all else fails you can update lts to lts from an iso.11:50
etropeI know11:50
etropethanx11:50
eideany new info on the heap overflow in Nginx (CVE-2014-0133)?11:52
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-0133)11:52
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OsmodivsHello. I am trying to make Gkrellm use mbmon to check voltages in my Mobo, but it ask me to input a port number, how do I know what are my ports?11:58
wasanzycfhowlett: no I haven't upgraded11:58
cfhowlettwasanzy, OK then11:59
wasanzyi386 signifies 32-bit?12:00
wasanzyI mean a package12:00
eidenevermind, I just read that Debian and Ubuntu are not affected by the Nginx vulnerability12:00
cfhowletteide, check the sources ...12:01
cfhowlett!nginx12:01
miraiEwhere can I ask about packaging DEB?12:05
cfhowlett!packaging|miraiE,12:05
ubottumiraiE,: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring12:05
OsmodivsHello. I am trying to make Gkrellm use mbmon to check voltages in my Mobo, but it ask me to input a port number, how do I know what are my ports?12:12
ssahai\join #sagemath12:12
Osmodivsssahai, / insread of \12:12
alumno__:):)12:12
IamTryingUbuntu 13.10 - i am getting this error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:16
IamTryinghow can i fix it?12:16
TazmainHi all if I setup ssh to forward x, will I see the whole desktop then ?12:18
tracyoneadd your library'path to  LD_LIBRARY_PATH  variable12:18
rypervencheTazmain: Nope, only what you manually run from the terminal. You'll want something like VNC to see the entire desktop.12:19
Tazmainrypervenche, I have vncserver installed, but when I connect to it , its blank -.-12:21
IamTryingWhy am i getting this? error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:21
rypervencheTazmain: What VNC client are you using?12:21
haniiiiiiihelp http://im83.gulfup.com/DXOlv.png12:21
DJones!kali | haniiiiiii12:22
Tazmainrypervenche, tightvnc12:22
ubottuhaniiiiiii: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)12:22
rypervencheTazmain: Give Remmina a shot for the client.12:22
Tazmainrypervenche, I would, but I can't find how to start nd install it via cli only12:22
rypervencheTazmain: You don't need to do it from the command line.12:23
rypervencheTazmain: There is no SSH involved here, unless you need to securely tunnel the VNC traffic over SSH12:23
Tazmainrypervenche, well I have a remote desktop to this server with a really slow client, jviewer, its terrbile, but I can ssh into it.12:23
rypervencheTazmain: PM12:24
Tazmainsure12:24
luciobadtasteATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.12:28
luciobadtasteQuesto script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.12:28
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anon1hello can anyone tell me how can i change my ip adress BUT NOT only on my browser12:34
rypervencheanon1: Why do you need to change it?12:35
OerHeksanon1, you can order your router to give your pc ( macadress) an IP, or program a hard IP in your networkmanager12:35
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anon1rypervenche: why you care?12:36
mows0I think he wants some kind of VPN to do illegal stuff :p12:36
anon1OerHeks: -_-12:36
anon1thats not ur bussiness...12:36
OerHeksanon1, but your 'outside/public IP´ will be the same12:36
rypervencheanon1: Because it will change my answer depending on your response. Good luck getting an answer from me now.12:36
anon1rypervenche: its all about my PERSONAL INFORMATION SECURITY...12:37
rypervencheOerHeks: I think he meant WAN IP.12:37
anon1rypervenche: if i wanted to do something bad i wont search for it here...12:37
OerHeksrypervenche, that came in my mind too12:38
haniiiiiiihelp http://im83.gulfup.com/DXOlv.png12:39
* digitalvaldosta says hello12:39
OerHeks!rootirc | haniiiiiii12:39
ubottuhaniiiiiii: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:39
OerHekshaniiiiiii, we do not support kali12:39
DJoneshaniiiiiii: This channel only supports Ubuntu12:40
mows0haniiiiiii, you have duplicate entries in sources.list12:40
OerHeks!kali12:40
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)12:40
haniiiiiiiok12:40
* digitalvaldosta is wondering if anyone knows why my lamp server doesn't show styling to peer devices? Only on localhost. ** Thanks for your help ** :-)12:40
cfhowlett!kali|haniiiiiii,12:41
ubottuhaniiiiiii,: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)12:41
cfhowletthaniiiiiii, kali is not supported on #ubuntu irc12:41
sirius_olaaç12:43
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romeobonjour12:43
digitalvaldostahas anyone experienced my issue? Peer devices on network dont show styling. Only showing text and images as if I didn't apply styling. I am designing a wordpress theme on my server. It does display correctly on localhost/ and http://ipaddress12:45
digitalvaldostaI am "obviously" running a LAMP stack12:46
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mows0digitalvaldosta, external css file?12:49
digitalvaldosta#mows yes not inline styling12:50
mows0digitalvaldosta, ah, wordpress. should be a file permission problem.12:50
mows0digitalvaldosta, devices except localhost can not access the css file12:50
digitalvaldostamows0 I have tried giving that a try. Gave 755, 644, 777 and no luck12:50
mows0digitalvaldosta, check .htaccess files12:51
mows0digitalvaldosta, try to open the css file directly from a browser _not_ on localhost. If it fails, it could possibly be a .htaccess issue12:51
mows0digitalvaldosta, I don't know much about wordpress though12:52
digitalvaldostamows0, I don't think that wordpress is the issue. I have the phpinfo test page setup to test from other machines and same thing.12:53
digitalvaldostamows0 did you mean the permissions on htaccess?12:54
digitalvaldostabecause i have tried that as well12:54
mows0digitalvaldosta, that means phpinfo() is also not "styled" on any devices except localhost?12:54
digitalvaldostamows0 correct12:54
mows0digitalvaldosta, ok that's weird12:54
digitalvaldostamows0 when i attempt to view the webpage on other devices I type http://192.168.0.107/AMFM (IP of server/directoryofSITE)12:56
mows0digitalvaldosta, any error messages in apache log?12:56
zetheroo1j12:57
emrHello i can't able to sync date, port is blocking somehow, ufw disabled, iptables resetted13:00
digitalvaldostasorry mows0. I remembered incorrectly. Just tried my phpinfo() index.php again and it does display correctly. I will try checking the htaccess permissions again.13:01
mows0digitalvaldosta, no prob. also check admin -> options -> URI settings in your wordpress installation. If it's set to "localhost", you know what's wrong ;)13:03
mows0digitalvaldosta, http://wordpress.org/support/topic/css-not-loading-on-remote-web-client13:03
digitalvaldostamows0, ok I will. Thanks13:04
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Slartemr: how did you try to sync your date?13:05
tagesgesorry13:06
emrSlart, yes, re-installing13:07
emrthanks13:07
digitalvaldostamows0, ok got a (probably n00b. lol) question. Where is admin -> options? it this in phpmyadmin or under system settings?13:08
mows0digitalvaldosta, it's in your wordpress settings13:08
digitalvaldostamows0 yeah just noticed that when I looked at the link you gave. lol13:09
mows0digitalvaldosta, I never really used it so I don't know how the admin panel looks like13:10
digitalvaldostamows0, guess I'll attempt to setup virtualhost so that I don't have to insert an ip in the admin. (this will be second time attempting virtualhost)13:10
daumhey guys i'm trying to do an update but it fails because it tries to remove brscan first, however removing brscan fails due to missing folders.  Any suggestions on how to remove brscan from the system?13:16
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mows0daum, apt-get -f install ?13:17
stanley_join #logstash13:17
daummows0, http://pastie.org/895042413:18
mows0daum, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/19952413:20
daumha yep just did that actually thanks!13:20
bumbara while ago i was playing with terminal colors for git diff, and now it's come back to haunt me; on man pages i can't see options, if i highlight them they're just black boxes13:31
troulouliou_devhi i have set my user to ww-data group and i ve set write permission for group on /var/www however i can't save a file with my user under this folder ?13:32
cfhowlettbumbar, which terminal?13:32
bumbarcfhowlett, default one? one that comes with 13.10, i'm not sure how to answer that13:33
mows0troulouliou_dev, is your user member of the group www-data? is /var/www writable by the group www-data?13:33
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mows0troulouliou_dev, ah nevermind...13:34
cfhowlettbumbar, for instance, xubuntu has xfce terminal - anyway, there should be a reset settings option in your preferences.13:34
troulouliou_devmows0, yes i set it up13:34
LucidGuyRegarding nscd, does anyone recommend it? or recommend not to use it?13:34
dwarderis there a way to easy install latest stable LAMP with 13.10 ubuntu?13:35
cfhowlett!lamp13:36
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.13:36
dwardercfhowlett: so?13:36
cfhowlettdwarder, "for help with setting up LAMP ..." answers your question.13:37
dwardercfhowlett: have you read my question?13:37
mows0troulouliou_dev, did you log out and log back in with your user?13:37
ice9how to know th maximum supported resolution?13:38
troulouliou_devmows0, ha no but i momently changed the /var/ww group to my group :)13:38
troulouliou_device9, xrandr13:38
bumbarcfhowlett, found it, thanks - bold color was set to same color as background13:38
__RoeyHey all, anyone here do crontab much?  I have two scripts I made for snapshotting and backing up, and I am trying to figure out how to collect their output.  Right now I get this in /var/log/syslog: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ec1ecef7e9eb51cf24df13:39
usr13troulouliou_dev: I have a different way of doint it that solves this problem and to me it is simplier.13:39
Kamil__hello13:39
mows0troulouliou_dev, a common error ist to use "chmod g+rw /var/www/*" instead of "chmod g+rw /var/www"13:39
troulouliou_devusr13, how ?13:39
grouseydwarder: can't you install lamp using sudo apt-get install lamp-server^13:40
troulouliou_devmows0, yes did that i think the error is specific to my editor (gedit)13:40
dwardergrousey: realy can't i?13:40
usr13troulouliou_dev: Just place the files in /home/user-name-here/public_html and symlink them  i.e.  ln -s /home/uer/public_html /var/www/site113:40
troulouliou_devusr13, ha yeah good hint :)13:41
grouseydwarder: ?13:41
Kamil__I have ubuntu 13.10 in text mode, after logging in, i write these commands: startx and unity; now i am on my desktop, but only with unity panel on left. where is time, language, network-manager in right top corner? what is right command from text mode to full unity desktop?13:41
usr13troulouliou_dev: (apache follows symlinks by default)13:42
usr13troulouliou_dev: And you can have all the sites in one /home/dir or you can have separate users for them.13:42
troulouliou_devusr13, yep got it thanks will do that far easier indead13:43
usr13troulouliou_dev: To me, it's just a more orderly way to do it, you're keeping everything that is accessed by users in /home/users13:43
Kamil__^^ trying sudo service lightdm start13:43
ljsoftnethow do i hide grube "Welcome to Grub" message?13:43
ljsoftnethow do i hide grub "Welcome to Grub" message?13:43
dwarderare there repos with the latest stable LAMP for ubuntu 13.1013:46
usr13Kamil__: startx doesn't work for you?13:46
Kamil__usr13, startx bring me to blank desktop only with wallpaper, without unity and panels13:47
usr13Kamil__: Does sudo service lightdm start  work?13:48
Kamil__yeah, but i must type password in text mode, after that for sudo and after that to log in again :/13:48
usr13Kamil__: Is this a laptop?13:49
cfhowlettdwarder, might want to ask the server channel13:49
Kamil__usr13, yes, old acer travelmate 2410, celeron M, 512mb ram13:49
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usr13Kamil__: I'm not sure why startx does not work.  (I'm an xfce user and I think that startxfce does the job.... trying to remember...)13:50
dwardercfhowlett: ty13:50
zetheroo1suddenly this is one of the only IRC channels I can write in ... . other channels say "Cannot send to channel" ... why is this?13:50
cfhowlettKamil__, you'll probably find the lubuntu or xubuntu run much better.  you are at the absolute minimum recommended specs13:50
xtbmanzetheroo1 you need to register your nickname13:50
usr13Kamil__: What is the equivilant for startxfce4 for unity?  #I think that is the question we need to answer.13:51
Kamil__usr13, startx then unity, or unity-2d-shell i think13:51
usr13Kamil__: As cfhowlett suggests, you might consider lubuntu or xubuntu. I use xfce.13:52
zetheroo1xtbman: I have registered my username ... it's zetheroo ... but now it's appearing as zetheroo113:52
usr13Kamil__: startx ; unity ?13:52
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zetheroo1xtbman: is this because I am logged in at home too?13:52
usr13Kamil__: If it's two commands that does the job for you, you could create a simple script to execute the two commands and name it gui ...?13:53
xtbmanzetheroo1 yeah you need to be using zetheroo signed in. Zetheroo1 isn't registered.13:53
_2_cowgirl1694speem english13:53
Kamil__usr13, need third command for top panel13:53
usr13Kamil__: So make it three.13:53
ptmanhi! how come http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/nodejs lists libc-ares2 (>= 1.8.0) and the debian/control file in the source lists libc-ares-dev (>= 1.7.5) as a dependency?13:54
Kamil__dont know command for top pannel13:54
zetheroo1 xtbman: but I am currently using zetheroo as my username to login13:54
Kamil__cfhowlett, thanks, will think about it13:54
usr13Kamil__: What?13:54
usr13Kamil__: What top pannel?13:54
Kamil__usr13, http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/_media/unity/unity.png?w=550&tok=b44af613:54
Kamil__top pannel with time in right top corner13:54
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usr13Kamil__: I see.... well we need to find the command to start that top pannel.13:55
usr13Kamil__: Let me experiment with another ubuntu system here for a minute....13:56
Kamil__usr13, sudo service lightdm start gives me everything i need, bad think is that i must log in again, but i can live with it13:57
IceD^hey13:57
IceD^I'm trying to get minimal ubuntu desktop (w/o all this libreoffices and other useless crap), got minimal cd, installed base system, installed ubuntu-desktop w/o recommends and it's almost ok13:58
usr13Kamil__: Yea, I see the top pannel on mine now... let's fish around a bit.13:58
IceD^what I miss - is "start menu" (whatever it's called) can't look for my apps (installed ones) and I don't have any SNA apps (for logout/lock/network manangement) - any idea what should I install to get this working13:59
zth14.04 will be LTS, right...?14:00
k1l_zth: yes14:01
zthk1l_, yay! thanks14:01
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dedehi14:04
mturleyHey does anyone know how to tell if upgrading your Ubuntu Server version will break anything?  Like maybe a command to look at what packages will be changed/replaced and grep that for some version-sensitive packages I'm using?14:04
dededoes anyone see a new menu on firefox 28 with unity ?14:04
dedelike this one http://minus.com/i/brsaZiFVJE45f14:05
ice9my xrandr output is https://gist.github.com/anonymous/58af31450958c53e6edf  so can I add higher resolution to the laptop screen?14:05
mturleydede, That "Firefox" menu on the left?14:06
usr13Kamil__: testing...14:06
fidel_mturley: this question is pretty general - so i doubt you'll get an answer which really helps further14:06
dedeyes mturley14:06
dedethis menu wasn't there in ff 2714:06
mturleyThey added that for windows and Mac to replace the menu bar, I thought it wasn't necessary in unity because you have that unified menu bar.  I guess they decided to add it anyway14:07
mturleyfidel_: ok thanks14:07
fidel_consider creating a backup - try upgrading and see what is broken. or wait for others users to answer - but then you should at least mention the versions you are coming-from and going-to14:07
dedeseem strange14:07
dedecause it makes two menus14:07
Kamil__usr13, thank you, i am configuring wifi now14:07
usr13Kamil__: On my system, startx loads up unity, (top pannel and all).14:07
mturleydede: I think you can turn it off in settings14:07
dedemaybe from about:config page14:08
dedemaybe it's a problem with firefox-globalmenu package14:08
usr13Kamil__: Not sure why it doesn't work for you, but there must be some sort of brokenness on your system that is causing it not to load.14:08
usr13Kamil__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  ???14:08
mturleyfidel_: thanks, I was just wondering if there was a general command to look at a preview of the upgrade changes.  I'll do a backup.14:09
usr13Kamil__: Only other change I would make is to create a symlink for startx:14:09
Kamil__usr13, i am not connected on internet14:09
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Kamil__usr13, its fresh install without updates14:10
naomiattempting to connect with you on Skype14:10
usr13Kamil__: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/startx /usr/bin/gui14:10
usr13Kamil__: Or something that effec, (just to save a couple key-stokes).14:11
Kamil__usr13, thank you14:11
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Kamil__will try few things on it14:11
usr13Kamil__: It works for me, don't know why it wouldn't work for you.14:11
ice9how do I test my graphics  card?14:12
bodie_anyone know what version of golang is packaged with 12.04?14:12
cfhowlettbodie_, 2:1-5 -14:12
usr13Kamil__: (Having a Linux box not connected to the internet is like putting your Masarati up on blocks and locking it away in the garage ;)14:13
grekhi please help - canot connect to own host http://superuser.com/questions/730920/local-network-ping-local-ip-fail14:14
bfighello, how can I script termination of a script unless it is ran with administrator privileges?14:14
usr13ice9: There is a screensaver that shows frame rate info ... trying to remember which one it is. (There is an option for it...)14:14
cfhowlettusr13, many screensavers have that option.14:15
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Kamil__usr13, i am on 802.1x wifi network, must install root and pfx12 certificates to connect to the internet14:15
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Obsdarkhey oh, i'm trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 on my notebook from a usb stick and i'm having problems to download the installer components, any help?14:16
Obsdarkthanks in advance14:16
cfhowlettObsdark, try 12.04 mini.iso14:16
ice9in the system monitor the network traffic graph doesn't work14:18
Obsdarkreally? and where i can get it?14:18
IceD^so - any idea what packages is responsible for SNA in unity14:18
cfhowlett!mini|Obsdark,14:18
ubottuObsdark,: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:18
greki update code  http://superuser.com/questions/730920/local-network-ping-local-ip-fail please some info14:19
Obsdarkis affect than i'll be using a Static ip network?14:19
Obsdarki'm going t o try it right now, thanks14:19
greki canot ping own host14:19
usr13ice9: I think you need to install xscreensaver-gl-extra14:20
usr13ice9: (or at least I am now...)14:21
usr13ice9: ONce you install xscreensaver-gl-extra, you'll have blocktube and it will show frame rate info14:22
usr13ice9: But you have to enable it in settings.14:23
usr13ice9: I know that one works, but as cfhowlett points out, there are probably others...14:25
dedethx usr13 ++14:25
ice9usr13: thanks14:26
usr13NP14:26
ice9how can I know the webcam kernel module name?14:26
grekhere is more info - http://superuser.com/questions/730920/local-network-ping-local-ip-fail i canot ping own computer but from other in local lan i can ping it14:29
usr13ice9: http://imagebin.org/30032214:30
usr13ice9: Look at the output of   lsmod14:30
zzxcmsg sudat14:31
mickskitzhi all, im just looking for some help with installing ubuntu to dual boot with windows 8.1 and have had a couple issues14:31
Deepu143any idea i am not able to send mail from user mode14:31
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ice9usr13: I installed xscreensaver but how do I launch it, I can't see it in the settings14:32
mickskitzbtw the version i am trying to install is ubuntu 13.1014:33
ptuladhar@Deepu143 are you using 'sendmail' utils.14:34
usr13ice9: Install xscreensaver-gl-extra14:34
ice9usr13: yes I did14:34
Deepu143can any one help me14:34
Deepu143please14:34
ross_hello?14:34
Deepu143i am not able to send mails from linux box14:34
ross_Is anyone else having issues booting after the most recent update?14:35
ptuladharDeepu143, can you check the /var/log/mail.log14:35
cfhowlett!anyone|Deepu143,14:35
ubottuDeepu143,: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:35
usr13ice9: Are you using unity?14:35
ice9usr13: yes14:35
usr13ice9: Do you have the "Windows Key" on your keyboard?14:36
ross_I have never used unity before14:36
ross_I have seen something about it in the sidebar14:36
cfhowlett!ask|ross14:36
ubottuross: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:36
usr13(I don't know what other name to call the "Windows Key".  Does it have a generic name?14:36
ross_but I use ubuntu primarily to code on.14:36
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Deepu143sorry ubottu14:37
ObsdarkSo, i'm a pretty noob linux user, but i have a CentOS running fine, i was wondering what kind of compresion format i must use for ubuntu server instalation?14:37
reisioObsdark: hrmm?14:37
ice9usr13: yes14:38
cfhowlettObsdark, #ubuntu=server is the channel for you.   ext4 is the default14:38
reisioross_: what's your issue?14:38
Obsdarkthanks a lot14:38
reisioext4 isn't really a compression format...14:38
reisioit's an FS14:38
Obsdarkfair enough, thanks a lot14:38
cfhowlettreisio, help him out.  I clearly didn't understand14:38
Deepu143and ptuladhar here is my mail log "Mar 19 19:55:48 KYK postfix/smtp[23445]: 26B518362F: to=<kaya123@gmail.com>, relay=mail.kya.com[115.249.97.215]:25, delay=0.84, delays=0.01/0/0.61/0.23, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 8A29620165B)14:38
ross_(As per ubottu's instructions ) Is anyone else having an issue updating after the most resent update? My ubuntu  won't even boot anymore. I did notice that there could be an issue with the legacy version of grub, but I am using the most recent version. I have tried reinstalling it numerous times. Considering that was ubuntu 12.04, do you think trying 13.10 will see different results?14:38
usr13ice9: If you do not have the "Windows Key", just click the icon a the top of the line on the right, and type in screensaver, (by the time you get to screen... you'll see the screensaver config menu.  Ok if you hit the "Windows Key" it will bring up the search, just start typing  screen.... and then hit Enter when it comes up.14:38
reisiocfhowlett: :D14:38
usr13ice9: *left* not right..14:39
reisioross_: how far does it get, what's the last thing you see?14:39
ptuladharDeepu143, looks like your mail are being delivered fine.14:39
ross_I see a long screen of white text.14:39
ptuladharDeepu143, what's the issue?14:39
reisioross_: and then?14:39
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ross_And that's it. It just hangs there14:39
Deepu143log shows delivered but i dint see the mail in inbox14:39
ross_If I do not choose ubuntu from the grub menu, I get the famed "Grub rescue>" prompt.14:40
ptuladharDeepu143, check if its in spam folder?14:40
reisioross_: okay, when it hangs, it probably has some informative text14:40
ross_Choosing windows works fine though.14:40
reisioross_: you should read it :) maybe even write it down14:40
reisioross_: then tell us what it is14:40
usr13ice9: I'm wrong, you will have to type as far as screensa ..... before it will come up, (because of screenshot).14:40
reisiotext is usually informative :)14:40
ice9usr13: found it thanks :)14:41
ross_Problem is, it's a lot of text. Much too much to write down. I have read that the recent kernel update could be the problem14:41
freenickhellow14:41
ross_IDK. I guess I'll try 13.10 and see if that works. Thanks guys.14:41
Deepu143no ptuladhar14:41
Deepu143not even received in spam box14:41
cfhowlett!paste|ross_, paste it up14:41
ubottuross_, paste it up: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:41
Deepu143and i have een / is 91 percentage usage14:41
Deepu143seen*14:42
reisioross_: usually only the last bit is enough14:42
ptuladharDeepu143, check the smtp port: netstat -npltu | grep 2514:42
ross_cf, I can't copy it since it is in the boot sequence.14:42
reisioross_: it _probably_ says something like 'kernel panic', and the most relevant lines will be immediately before or after14:42
reisioross_: you will only need a specific few keywords for a pretty decent diagnosis14:42
usr13ice9: http://imagebin.org/30032514:43
Deepu143ya looks like port is open14:43
Deepu143tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25                0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      13572/master14:43
ross_Okay. I'll try it again, worst case scenario i'll try to do the grub repair again and grab the link that gives me to be able to share. Thanks for the help reisio!14:43
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usr13ice9: http://imagebin.org/30032614:45
reisioross_: most likely it is indeed something to do basically solely with the kernel GRUB is being told to load14:46
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reisioross_: but some paraphrasing, even, of the actual error messages would be useful :)14:47
ptuladharDeepu143, did you made any changes to postfix configuration?14:47
usr13ice9: http://imagebin.org/30032714:48
Deepu143no14:48
groggsterHi! I am thinking about applying for a job as a sysadm at Canonical... I am looking for another sysadm working there to explain a few things to me before I do so. Is there anyone here?14:49
freenick.14:49
k1l_groggster: there is a channel for canonical server admins. but i forgot the name. try alis to find it14:50
k1l_!alis | groggster14:50
ubottugroggster: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*14:50
ice9usr13: which graphics card and processor you have?14:50
groggsterOkay, thanks!14:51
usr13ice9: Intel 82Q35 graphics card, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHz14:52
sydneyIf I upgrade to Lubuntu 13.10 from ubuntu 12.04,will it keep both graphical interfaces; also will it keep all my programs and files?14:55
gugus.14:56
gugus.14:56
mickskitz!patience14:57
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/14:57
reisiosydney: definitely the latter, if not the former that's easily fixed14:57
reisiosydney: you can always try LXDE from the live image, if you're unsure you'll like it14:57
reisiosydney: or install it without upgrading your whole system14:58
Deepu143hey its problem with mail server14:58
Deepu143thanks14:58
freenick.14:58
reisiofreenick: very clever14:58
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sydneyWhat happens after a ubuntu version becomes unsupported?15:02
mickskitzim just looking for some help with installing ubuntu 13.10 (64bit) to dual boot with windows 8.1 and have had a couple issues15:03
k1l_sydney: no updates to packages. even no security ones15:03
cfhowlett!eol|sydney,15:03
ubottusydney,: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:03
reisiosydney: after that, it's not supported15:03
bananapie!deathrattle!sydney15:03
cfhowlettsydney, no more updates, no more security.15:03
sydneyOk,I get it. :)15:04
bananapiesydney, no more security because it is assumed there are flaws in the code that will go unpatched because it's not supported, but a hacker might still find those flaws.15:04
reisiorealistically your security will be compromised long before that if you've spent so much time avoiding updating15:04
reisio"weee look at me, I never update"15:05
reisio"oh snap, not supported, guess I'll update in a rush now!"15:05
reisio"omg, broken!"15:05
reisioetc.15:05
bananapiereisio, good point.15:05
reisiobananapie: you're delicious15:05
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z3r0:)15:07
usr13sydney: or... you could wait for 14.0415:07
sydneyI was not sure what to do because lubuntu trusty will only be suported for 18 months.15:08
bananapieI'm waiting for 14.04. 14.04 is supported until 2019 if you are on server edition15:08
reisiosydney: only?15:08
compdocIm waiting for 14.04 too15:08
reisioyou should really be updating as soon as an update is available15:08
reisioit shouldn't ever take you more than a YEAR to update some software15:09
reisiothat is just ridiculous :)15:09
sydneyWell I don't like upgrading my os that often . ;)15:09
reisiowhy not?15:09
bananapieI haven't updated my Windows 95 in about 5 years :P15:09
Guitarman_moron15:09
reisiobananapie: you should try Windows ME, it's hawt15:10
sydneyBeckause I get my stuff on It and get it set up a certian way; even though I do back it up.15:10
edvebananapie lol15:10
bananapieReally? I've been thinking about it, but I am waiting for 2000 to come out15:10
cfhowlett_!ot15:10
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:10
bananapiesydney, what version are you running ?15:10
bananapiesorry ubottu and cfhowlett15:10
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usr13sydney: 12.04 EOL is  April 201715:10
cfhowlett_sydney, strangely enough 14.04 will also be support until april 201715:11
reisiosydney: and what, when you update it changes too much?15:11
bananapie12.04 SERVER is supported until 201715:11
reisiosydney: sounds like you should try choosing software whose developers are less random15:11
bananapiedesktop only gets 3 years.15:11
kostkonbananapie, nope15:11
kostkonbananapie, 5y15:11
bananapieLTS server => 5 years, LTS Desktop => 3 years. At least that is what it used to be.15:12
kostkonbananapie, exactly, it used to be15:12
kostkonbananapie, not anymore15:12
k1l_bananapie: that the old way15:12
bananapieSource?15:12
k1l_bananapie: both 5 years now15:12
k1l_since 12.0415:12
bananapie[citation needed ]15:12
k1l_!lts | bananapie15:12
ubottubananapie: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)15:12
cfhowlett_k1l_, yeah, last I checked it'll be 3 years on 14.0415:12
usr13sydney: I was wrong, it's April 2015 for 12.04 Desktop15:13
bananapieubottu agrees with me :)15:13
ubottubananapie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:13
sydneyubuntu 12.04, with lxde ( I downloaded it fron the software center),and I do want to try 14.04,and do plan on installing lubuntu 14.04.15:13
k1l_cfhowlett_: no. they reduced the non-lts support to keep lts long15:13
usr13bananapie: Thanks for correction.15:13
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cfhowlett_sydney, 14.04 will be the first lubuntu LTS version.  Should be sweet15:15
usr13Oh, I see I was right the first time..... (I thought I must have read the date wrong...)15:15
cfhowlett_!saucyh15:15
usr13Thanks k1l_ ... for the info15:15
cfhowlett_!sacyh15:15
cfhowlett_!saucy15:15
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes15:15
sydneyOh so I will be suported longer than 18 months?!15:15
* cfhowlett_ fat finger errors15:15
cfhowlett_!lts15:15
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)15:15
kostkonsydney, even on lubuntu yes15:16
cfhowlett_sydney, there are no longer 18 month versions15:16
kostkonsydney, lubuntu 14.04 that is15:16
usr1313.10's EOL is July 201415:16
sydneyI would like one that spans all the way between 2 lts versions.:)15:16
usr13sydney: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases15:16
cfhowlett_sydney, so just use LTS then ...15:16
k1l_sydney: user LTS.15:16
k1l_*use15:16
usr13sydney: Then use LTS15:17
cfhowlett_sydney, 12.04 now, upgrade to 14.04 next month15:17
usr13cfhowlett_: Or, wait a couple more years...15:17
cfhowlett_usr13, true.  12.04 has a long life span ...15:17
ice9how to use the intel wireless display feature?15:17
usr13"if it aint broke, don't fix it"15:18
usr13ice9: What?15:18
sydneyI will,and that is a good saying. ;)15:18
kostkonusr13, wireless monitors15:18
usr13sydney: ... just my opinion ...15:18
usr13kostkon: Oh ok.  Well I don't know anyway so...15:19
usr13kostkon: Oh, does he mean like wireshark?15:19
kostkonusr13, ?15:19
ice9usr13: http://ark.intel.com/products/65700/Intel-Core-i3-3110M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_40-GHz search for "Intel® Wireless Display"15:20
usr13kostkon: (network traffic analyzer)15:20
kostkonusr13, obviously not15:20
sydneyI will definately try it when I comes out; but now I am mixed up on weather to upgrade and do a fresh install,and restore my files from a backup;or just upgrade?15:21
reisiosydney: why wouldn't you just upgrade15:21
reisioless work, no?15:21
cfhowlett_sydney, clean update is my method.  not too painful as I only do it every 2 years.  clears out the previous residue15:21
reisioew15:21
usr13ice9: So that is the specs on your CPU?  (What about it?)15:22
usr13ice9: Maybe you should re-state your question.15:23
sydneyI want it to keep my files,but i am not sure about the rest. I have already had to reinstall 12.04 before,and it is a lot of work to get everything the exact same.15:23
cfhowlett_sydney, with a dedicated /home and data backup, clean install is so easy, a caveman could do it.15:23
sydneyI do have a dedicated backup,but my home folder is in the same partion as th filesystem.15:24
ice9usr13: I wanted to know how to use the wireless display feature, which application is needed to use it?15:24
usr13sydney: If you have a separate partition for /home you can just go through the normal install process, choose not to format that partition and use same user name.15:24
usr13sydney: Otherwise, just backup your files....15:24
Guitarman_u can run but you can not hide, elohel15:24
sydneyI always backup my files:)15:24
* reisio shakes head15:24
usr13ice9: nm-applet or wicd15:24
reisiosorry, but if you can't update your system without reinstalling, then you're using the wrong OS15:25
reisioor distro15:25
usr13ice9: Which ever you use.  The default is network-manager15:25
cfhowlett_!wfm15:25
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/15:25
usr13ice9: (By "wireless display feature" I assume you mean wireless configuration menu.)15:26
usr13ice9: ... which you should see in the upper-right corner of the screen, (or little to left of that).15:26
sydneyWhen I upgrade does it pretty much wipe all the system files and reinstall? or does it only replace a few files?15:26
reisiosydney: it replaces lots of system files15:26
usr13sydney: wipes them all15:26
reisioyour /home/ should be left alone15:27
cfhowlett_reisio, assume it wipes them all15:27
reisiountil you run a program, and then ~/. files will be updated15:27
cfhowlett_sydney ... sorry reisio15:27
reisiocfhowlett_: assume wha?15:27
usr13sydney: Oh no, upgrade just installes new versions and removes obsolete ones.15:27
usr13*upgrade*15:27
sydneyThats what I thought. Thanks15:27
cfhowlett_reisio, nvermind, wrong tab complete15:27
Guitarman_lovIN' IT......in your face, heeeeee heeeee15:27
reisiowell, he used 'upgrade' to mean "not reinstall"15:27
ice9user1: I don't mean the wifi or wireless internet, "wireless display" allows you to connect to wireless TV for streaming without using a router15:27
reisiorealistically "upgrade" and "update" are synonyns15:27
reisiosynonyms*15:27
* reisio glares at apt programmers15:27
sydneyI think I will upgrade when 14.04 comes out.15:28
cfhowlett_lol15:28
reisiosynonyms in English, but not to apt :p15:28
RaugturiDoes anyone know what might be causing this DNS issue? http://bpaste.net/show/190861/15:28
reisioI've been upgrading Unix systems for at least 9 years15:28
usr13sydney: Good choice,15:28
reisioif you can't upgrade, you're doing it wrong or the system is15:28
Guitarman_not as 5think as you dumb i am fool15:28
avishow do i block all but one port using iptables ?15:29
Guitarman_loser15:30
reisioavis: #netfilter15:30
sydneyThats why I backup my system. :)15:30
cfhowlett_!behelpful|Guitarman_,15:30
ubottuGuitarman_,: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.15:30
sydneyAnd right now I am downloading lubuntu trusty Daily build to try it and see what it is like so far.15:31
usr13Raugturi: cat /etc/issue  #Show us what that says.15:31
cholulohi15:31
ice9how to identify graphics card capabilities like ram, ghz, etc..?15:31
cfhowlett_cholulo, greetings15:31
sydneyhello15:31
Raugturiusr13: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l15:31
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reisioice9: what for?15:32
reisiocholulo: ohai15:32
ice9reisio: it's new laptop so I want to discover it15:32
sebastiansam55is it a known issue to have some chrome webpages stay shown after being minimized in 12.04.4?15:33
choluloi'm installing ubuntu 9.0115:33
reisioice9: lshw might have that15:33
reisiocholulo: oh, why such an old version?15:33
choluloi have one in the bookstore15:33
reisiosebastiansam55: sounds like maybe your system doesn't play so well with compiz/accelerated graphics15:34
reisiocholulo: hrmm?15:34
cholulo were can i get the latest15:34
sebastiansam55oh okay, firefox doesn't seem to have the problem15:34
reisiocholulo: oh, ubuntu.com15:34
k1l_!downloads | cholulo15:34
k1l_!iso | cholulo15:35
ubottucholulo: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:35
reisioor https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors15:35
cholulothanks a lot15:35
cfhowlett_cholulo, guessing this is an older computer.  lubuntu or xubuntu would probably run better that ubuntu15:36
sunny_sllshi everybody15:36
choluloyes it is seven years old15:36
sunny_sllsi have updated my OS from 10.04 to 12.0415:37
raj__ if my domain name is "www.mydomain.com", what could likely be my unqualified hostname & FQDN ?15:37
cfhowlett_cholulo, lubuntu is optimized for older/lower spec hardware.  xubuntu also runs pretty good on older stuff.15:37
cholulowhat's the differences between kubuntu , lubuntu and ubuntu?15:37
sunny_sllsi am facing this issue of flashplugin-installer and oracle-java8-installer15:37
cfhowlett_!flavors15:37
ubottu!Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.15:37
cholulook15:37
sunny_sllshttp://pastebin.com/U7g6H7K715:37
sunny_sllsplease help15:38
reagais there a way to revert to before updates were installed?15:38
reagai just installed an update and it broke verything15:38
reaga:/15:38
cholulo94% :-)15:38
toothehow do I upgrade just the kernel?15:38
reaganot gonna install any more updates15:38
reagathat's for sure15:38
reagaand ill disable those fucking update popups too15:39
reagafucking ubuntu15:39
cfhowlett_!language|reaga,15:39
ubottureaga,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.15:39
cfhowlett_toothe, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:39
cholulothats happen to my too you have to repair the grub15:39
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reisioreaga: sounds like maybe you should just use another distro15:40
jiohdireaga, how much access do you still have?15:40
k1l!details | reaga15:40
ubottureaga: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:40
cholulo% restarting bye bye15:41
cfhowlett_toothe, sorry, that's incorrect.   that'll grab ALL updateable packages, not restricted to the kernel.15:41
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sunny_sllshi cfhowlett_ i updated my os ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 . After that i can't see windows option in my grub file15:42
CollinAndersonanyone know why apache httpd defaults to LANG=C instead of UTF8?15:42
cfhowlett_sunny_slls, try reinstalling grub15:42
cfhowlett_!grub15:42
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:42
cfhowlett_sunny_slls, be aware that grub was updated between those 2 releases.  the grub2 in 12.04 requires a different configuration.  it should set up automatically but ...15:43
reisioCollinAnderson: that's just tradition, utf-8 is more complex and not always required15:45
reisioCollinAnderson: the entire OS installation might be not using utf-815:45
CollinAndersonmaybe my question is, why not default to the system default15:47
usr13Raugturi: Is this a desktop or laptop or server or...?15:50
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usr13Raugturi:  SOrry, was on the phone15:52
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reisioCollinAnderson: that's a question for #httpd, probably, but15:53
reisioI'd guess, again, because C is infinitely simpler than UTF-815:53
pablotepopete15:53
reisioincluding avoiding actual problems15:53
popetepablote!15:53
reisiothat said, try nginx :)15:53
GivenToCodeif i make changes to an upstart script do i need to reboot in order for them to take effect?15:56
GivenToCodeive made changes and stopped and started my service but it's not behaving as id expect and sort of want to avoid having to reboot15:57
CollinAndersonreisio: yeah, #httpd said to come over here15:58
frank1ehey anyone knows how to use gpg or pgp or how this is called with an ubuntu live cd?15:58
CollinAndersonreisio: it's only defaults to LANG=C in debian/ubuntu15:58
frank1e(ubuntu 12.04)15:58
frank1eor if it even works with an ubuntu live cd?15:58
CollinAndersonafaik15:58
frank1eno one?15:59
kostkon!gpg15:59
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts15:59
frank1eI mean that program to encrypt messages and decrypt them15:59
frank1eIM new to this16:00
frank1e*I'm16:00
icdomer if I have a pid and a page address, how can I get which node the page is on?16:01
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SchrodingersScatfrank1e: yes, gpg can do that.  Since you would need the private keys, i'm not sure how often people use it from livecd, but then maybe people download the key/use-persistence.16:02
frank1eI am so puzzled about all this16:02
kostkonfrank1e, what are you trying to do16:02
frank1egetting into encrypting text conversations on the net. and maybe try to get friends to try it out because I think this is getting more and more important these days.16:03
frank1e(via PGP)16:03
RouthAnyone here good with UFW?16:05
SchrodingersScat!anyone | Routh16:05
ubottuRouth: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.16:05
reisioCollinAnderson: then #debian would be where to ask about why it does that16:06
reisioI doubt Ubuntu did much but cp debian/httpd ubuntu/16:06
SchrodingersScatfrank1e: have you read the ubuntu gpg link?  where are you at in the process?  Hard to know where to start when we don't know what you've tried, etc.  basically !details | frank1e16:06
RouthI've blocked 205.209.0.0/16 for spamming, ufw status confirms it's DENY anywhere - however a spammer from 205.209.165.42 managed to connect and spam today. UFW status is active... maybe /16 doesn't cover that IP? I'm lost.. it should have been impossible for them to connect.16:07
sorinelloHello. Cna someone how can I downgrade to the previous version of Firefox ? I am currently using 27, but I need to use 2616:07
reisiosorinello: why do you need to?16:08
sorinelloreisio: because I am using an automation framework (webdriver) which is not compatible with FF 2716:08
kostkonsorinello, actually the latest is 28, tried in that?16:09
reisiosorinello: 26 and 27 aren't that different16:09
reisiosorinello: so "webdriver" is probably UA sniffing, which is what really awful web software does16:09
sorinellokostkon, reisio: I know 28 is latest, but I need 2616:09
reisioinstall the user agent switcher extension and tell webdriver you're using 26, it'll probably work16:09
sorinellono, it's more about Native Events of Firefox16:10
sorinellowhich are not compatible with what I am using16:10
reisiohrmm?16:10
KarmahackerHi guys how  it possible to clear cash on vps ?16:11
jjavaholicnvidia_319_updates: "This driver is activated but not currectly in use" what is going on here?16:11
sydney_Is there any way to run a apple app or program on linux?16:12
reisiosydney_: yes, but it's not worth the effort usually16:12
reisioif it's a decent app, it will build without the UI frontend on any Unix system16:13
sydney_ok ,thanks16:13
frank1eSchrodingersScat: Im just at the very beginning. Read much stuff on the net via Google but I still dont understand the very basic system. I think I need someone to explain it to me like I'm 5.16:13
reisiosimilarly, an app authored by someone not awful will already provide non-Mac OS Unix builds/build instructions16:13
kunjuhai16:14
usr13205.209.0.0/16 is HostMin: 205.209.0.1   HostMax: 205.209.255.25416:15
reisiokunju: ohai16:15
usr13Routh:16:15
SchrodingersScatfrank1e: you and your friend make keys, you both exchange the public keys that allow people to encrypt things for your eyes only, you decode the data with your private key.  This can be text, or files, etc.16:15
kunjuhai16:17
Routhusr13: Thought so, so it should be covered. I think it's rule order16:18
usr13Routh: To see a list of rules:  ufw status numbered16:19
usr13(numbered rules)16:19
Fohlenanyone knows how I can install Gnome Office, Ease?16:19
Fohlenfor Ubuntu 13.0416:19
Fohlencan't find it though :(16:19
pablotenop16:19
pablitouis16:19
jjavaholicnvidia_319_updates: "This driver is activated but not currectly in use" what is going on here?16:20
reisiojjavaholic: it's not in use16:20
reisioprobably just as it says16:20
SchrodingersScat!13.04 | Fohlen16:20
ubottuFohlen: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring16:20
usr13Fohlen: libreoffice-gnome   >?16:20
Fohlenubottu, is there no ppa to aquire ease for raring?16:20
ubottuFohlen: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:20
Fohlenups16:21
jjavaholichow can I make sure it is used?16:21
usr13Fohlen: apt-cache search office-gnome16:21
reisiojjavaholic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia16:23
anselueah16:23
anselyeah...16:23
anselneed help16:23
Fohlenusr13, https://launchpad.net/~natesm/+archive/ease16:23
Fohlenlibreoffice sucks.16:23
reisioFohlen: nah16:23
anseldo u knw about ....CISC16:23
reisiooffice suites kind of suck, but as far as office suites go, libreoffice is pretty wonderful16:24
Fohlenreisio, the code sucks, it's slow and lacks tons of features16:24
Fohlencalligra is worlds better16:24
Fohlenbut it depends on kde16:24
QuinnStorm...which is worlds better than gnome *ducks*16:25
Fohlenthey have different text interpreter engines for every product16:25
reisioFohlen: how's it better?16:25
Fohlenreisio, it's faster, it's interface is much more usable16:25
reisiousing office suites is the slow way of doing things :) so it being slow is no surprise, really, is it? :)16:25
reisioFohlen: okay, anything not subjective?16:26
kunjuhelloooooooo16:26
reisiolike "libreoffice cannot do FOO, calligra can"?16:26
reisiokunju: hey again16:26
Fohlenreisio ... this was totally objective16:26
Fohlenyou ever looked the code?16:26
Fohlen...16:26
Fohlen*up16:26
kunjuwhat about topic do you talk?16:26
reisioFohlen: end users don't usually do that, so I'm not sure how it's relevant to such a comparison16:26
reisiokunju: stuff16:26
tdannecykunju | !hi16:26
Fohlenreisio. it is crap.16:26
kunjusry what is stuff?16:27
reisioFohlen: uhuh...16:27
Fohlenokay ... to make a cool example, libreoffice doesn't even have sheet layers...16:27
reisiokunju: things16:27
Fohlenit doesn't have paths16:27
Fohlenthe animations are from 9916:27
tdannecy!hi | kunju16:27
Fohlenit lacks tons of stuff.16:27
jjavaholicwhere can I find an exhaustive list of nvidia drivers to graphics cards so I can know which one I should be using?16:27
reisioFohlen: does ms office have paths?16:28
Fohlenyes16:28
reisiojjavaholic: nvidia.com16:28
* QuinnStorm is kinda glad she doesn't have to do much with office software...last she looked it all kinda sucks in its own way16:28
Fohlenms office also has sheet layers16:28
reisiodo serious illustrators use office? :p16:28
reisiodon't they use... a dedicated illustration program?16:28
QuinnStormkoffice always showed promise but suffered really badly from the general kde problem -- it works really well right up until randomly SIGSEGV16:28
Fohlenreisio, if you need to make business presentations you probably need to get rid of open/libreoffice.16:29
FohlenQuinnStorm, exactly my thoughts about Calligra.16:29
Fohlenit suffers so hard bugs if you install it apart from a KDE environment16:29
reisioI don't know about that, but if you need to make business presentations, you're probably already SOL :)16:29
Fohlenit's unbelievable :(16:29
Fohlenreisio, that's why I am looking for a good and easygoing solution16:29
* QuinnStorm doesn't know how they managed to botch konqueror+webkit so badly16:29
Fohlenbecause I hate complete office suits16:30
QuinnStormit fails miserably all over the place where chromium is just fine16:30
Fohlenthey are terrible.16:30
jjavaholicbut you do or don't advocate running the binary drivers from the nvidia website?16:30
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Fohlenwell, still miles bether than libreoffice code16:30
* QuinnStorm still prefers kde, but really wishes someone would do something about the whole random segfault thing16:30
Fohlenlmfao16:30
Fohlenjjvaholic, use the ppa's.16:30
Fohlenbinary drivers should always be your last-chance option16:30
Fohlenbecause they are normally not widely tested.16:31
usr13Fohlen: Libreoffice components can be installed separately.16:31
QuinnStorm...though it really did used to be worse, the late 3 series were awful when they weren't sure if they were going to 4 yet or not16:31
QuinnStormand the early 4 was unusable16:31
OerHeksjjavaholic, no, use the ones in the repositorys16:31
jjavaholicI have had problems using too many third party ppa's before16:31
Fohlenusr13, they cant.16:31
Fohlenat least not with using apt16:31
Fohlenmaybe by source16:32
usr13Fohlen: (not sure why you would do it but you *can* install separate components).  So what problem are you having really?16:32
Fohlenif you install for example libreoffice-words16:32
QuinnStormbinary nvidia drivers should only be used if nouveau can't do what you want, and with the understanding that they do have bugs and will randomly hardlock your kernel16:32
Fohlenit will force you installing the whole suit.16:32
QuinnStormat least last I looked16:32
usr13Fohlen: Maybe you should just use windord16:33
QuinnStorm(especially around suspend/resume)16:33
usr13*winword*16:33
EvilRoeyhey all16:33
reisioFohlen: that's a silly thing to say as a KDE user :p16:33
EvilRoeymy mail is being blasted every minute by CRON.  How do I figure out how to stop it16:33
reisioshow me the KDE app that doesn't require kdelibs16:33
Fohlenreisio lol, I'll never use KDE16:33
Fohlen:P16:33
EvilRoeyreisio:  KDE is a silly thing to use as a computer user16:33
reisioFohlen: heheh16:33
reisioEvilRoey: heh16:33
Blueersomeone know why ChrootDirectory isn't working with ssh and sftp? i've set up all right in the config, restarted ssh and i can login, but i can browse the whole server :(16:33
FohlenI'm on xfce and that's well reasoned though.16:33
EvilRoeyreisio:  (because it allows you to get past the low level computer stuff and just do your work)16:33
usr13Fohlen: *MS-Office*  (it appears that you will be satisfied with nothing less, so...  :)16:33
* QuinnStorm shrugs, likes her kde desktop, doesn't see a reason to change, its the browser that eats all the resources not the DE these days16:33
EvilRoeyreisio:  long live KDE!! :)16:34
BlueerChrootDirectory %h16:34
usr13Fohlen: Yea, xfce rocks.16:34
Fohlenusr13. It works better than all of the free stuff available16:34
EvilRoeyQuinnStorm:  wonderful!16:34
Fohlenand that is an objective statement16:34
Fohlenit just does16:34
usr13Fohlen: What does?  xfce?16:34
FohlenI don't like MS at all, but Office is a wonderfull solution.16:34
EvilRoeyFohlen:  Hello there, were you Fehlen before?16:34
reisioEvilRoey: it probably will live long, but when it loses its paid developers it's going to be annoying to use for a while16:34
EvilRoeyah16:34
EvilRoeywhy "when"?16:34
usr13Fohlen: If that is what you are saying, I beg to differ (in a *very* big way).16:34
EvilRoeyreisio:  as if it is a foregon conclusion?16:35
QuinnStormof course I spend most of my time in a terminal or the browser, so the DE really just needs to work and mostly get out of my way16:35
Fohlenusr13, it only brings you the disadvantage of using windoof16:35
Fohlenwhich is a kill-factor16:35
Fohlenor wine, but whoami using wine16:35
QuinnStorm...and then there's that annoying bug with ktorrent's queue that I still can't figure out16:35
Fohlenthough that crap bettered a bit.16:35
reisioEvilRoey: yup16:35
EvilRoeyreisio:  when will this happen?16:36
* QuinnStorm has looked at the source and it shouldn't be broken >.<16:36
EvilRoeyI'm getting mailed every few minutes with a message like "ERROR: creating snapshot toplevel/toplevel.20140319-1201 -> toplevel.20140319-1201 failed. File exists"  <-- this message comes from the backup script I've put in with crontab -e.  I don't understand why there are like 22 mails about this in root's mail.16:36
* EvilRoey looks hopefully at QuinnStorm and reisio 16:36
reisioEvilRoey: sometime16:36
Korkelhey16:37
reisioKorkel: heyo16:37
KorkelCan I register my IRC name?16:38
usr13!register16:38
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode16:38
stegohello! are there any downsides to install 14.04 beta now and just update until it's stable? or should i wait another month?16:39
ikoniayour installing a beta product that's not stable16:39
ikoniaseems like a pretty big draw back if you want it to work16:39
duoihi all16:40
duoiwhat are some tricks i could use to speed up ubuntu's boot time?16:40
reisiostego: you can probably upgrade to it without downloading and installing it on its own, if you really want it16:40
reisioduoi: stop rebooting16:40
Korkelbrb16:40
duoihuehuehue, but lets me serious16:41
reisiookay16:41
duois/me/be16:41
reisioduoi: stop rebooting16:41
ikoniaduoi: what is the actual boot time it's taking /16:41
duoireisio, stop trolling16:41
reisioduoi: okay16:41
reisioduoi: stop rebooting16:41
stegoreisio, kindly remove yourself16:41
ikoniaenough16:41
ikonialets just deal with the problem16:42
reisioyes, let's16:42
duoiikonia, it doesn't matter. im curious about what i could strip to make it quicker just for the sake of being quicker.16:42
reisioduoi: have you tried not rebooting?16:42
reisiooooh, just for the sake16:42
ikoniaduoi: it actually does matter, that's why I'm asking16:42
ikoniareisio: come on, please, give it a rest.16:42
reisioikonia: you just said let's deal with the problem...16:43
jjavaholicWARNING: modinfo for module nvidia_304_updates failed: ERROR: Module nvidia_304_updates not found. found in /var/loc/jockey.log16:43
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Korkelback16:44
reisiowb16:44
hwtestshi, what programs can I quickly run to verify if computer seems fine (stable) regarding hardware?16:44
ikoniahwtests: just run the machine, use it, see how it goes16:45
KorkelIs there a option to activate Sleep modus in Gnome 3.10?16:45
reisioKorkel: modus?16:45
hwtestsikonia: anything more to test in half hour?16:45
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hwtestsI run smart test16:45
KorkelIDK how to call, just let the laptop sleep.16:45
ikoniahwtests: 30 minutes isn't going to really tell you anything16:45
ikoniahwtests: running a memtest is useful as it will put load on the memory, and cpu, but won't test "ubuntu" just the hardware16:45
reisiohwtests: nor smart info :)16:45
hwtestswhere is memtester in ubuntu? it was available in debian16:45
KorkelSo it doesn't shut down.16:45
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hwtestsreisio: smartmontools --test short is 5 minutes :P16:46
duoiikonia, it takes about a minute16:46
reisiohwtests: 5 wasted minutes16:46
OerHekshwtests, still is, boot & hold shift to see grub menu with memtest8616:46
rahulesHi,I am using Ubuntu 13.10. It has been working fine till today. Now, when I try to open it, I get a black screen after login and only the mouse pointer works16:46
reisioKorkel: yes it should be in the admin menu area somewhere16:46
ikoniaduoi: thats not too bad, the best tip is to remove the boot splash and watch what processes take time to respond (dhcp is a common one)16:46
ikoniathen address those services16:46
reisioKorkel: look for 'power', etc.16:46
hwtestsOerHeks: right, that is memtest86, but I mean the one that you can run as normal application. was called memtester in debian16:46
KorkelWill chek it. :)16:47
OerHekshwtests, useless, your system needs to be free to be tested16:47
ikoniahwtests: thats not a good test as it's running memory within debian/ubuntu - thats using memory16:47
rahulesI have tried reinstlling ubuntu-desktop, resetting preferences from ccsm but nothing works16:47
ikoniahwtests: it needs to be "pre boot"16:47
hwtestsok so memtester is not present in ubuntu repo then?16:47
ikoniahwtests: try looking16:48
ikoniabut we are telling you that is a pointless test16:48
Fohlenanyone knows if this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/impressive/+bug/1214098 got resolved somehow?16:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1214098 in impressive (Ubuntu) "Cannot load necessary modules: No module named OpenGL.GL" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:48
hwteststhanks, though you are wrong, it has a chance to show memory corruption. just memtest86 does it better as it tests entire range16:48
elitereconHello everyone I installed ubuntu 12.04.4 on a hp pavilion dv6000 and i haven't been able to figure out how to install a wifi driver for it any ideas?16:48
FohlenOr how I possibly could?16:48
reisioif it doesn't overheat in 30 minutes, then probably all the important hardware works perfectly16:49
reisioeliterecon: what's the wireless device?16:49
elitereconits a broadcom something16:49
reisioeliterecon: check lspci or lsusb for a model #16:50
rahulesAnybody? Any fix for The black screen and mouse pointer after login problem?16:50
reisiorahules: can you CTRL+ALT+F2?16:50
eliterecon03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)16:51
rahulesreisio: i can. I tried restarting lightdm,  reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, unity, but no luck16:51
ilhami5I am reinstalling Ubuntu Server and I get this...16:51
ilhami5<ilhami5>Network configuration failed..16:51
ilhami5<ilhami5>Your network is probably not using DHCP16:51
ilhami5<ilhami5>and some more.16:51
llutzilhami5: "Your network is probably not using DHCP" is it?16:52
ilhami5It's a VM I am installing16:52
ilhami5I dont get it16:52
ilhami5of course it is.16:52
ilhami5I can check again16:52
Fohlenevery fine office solution seems to bug in 13.0416:52
Fohlenit starts grinding my gears now :(16:52
reisiorahules: you can't even see the login (DM) screen?16:52
elitereconso anything for 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) wireless driver for ubuntu 12.04.416:53
blizzowAnyone here know how to get Saucy to connect to a cisco ipsec gateway using xauth + PSK?    I installed the networkmanager vpnc client but it's not working at all.  I can connect with both android and OSX.  I typically get a no response when trying the vpnc command line option.  If I attempt connecting via the network manager, the server complains that the phase 1 settings are wrong.  :(16:54
ilhami5llutz: My network is using DHCP16:54
ilhami5there must be something wrong with the network settings though16:54
reisioeliterecon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx16:55
rahules_sorry I got disconnected reisio. Is there any fix for it?16:55
OerHeksilhami5, most likely it is your VM-host settings16:55
reisiorahules: you can't even see the login (DM) screen?16:55
ilhami5OerHeks how do I solve it? :)16:56
ilhami5I think you are right.16:56
rahules_reisio: I can see the login screen. After I enter my password and hit enter, I am greeted with a blank black screen with only the mouse pointer16:56
rahules_I can move the mouse pointer16:56
reisiorahules_: alright, can you ask to use a safe mode from the login screen?16:56
reisiorahules_: or if you right click (after login), do you get a menu?16:57
rahules_I am right now using cinnamon software render mode reisio . For some reason, cinnamon isn't also working properly16:57
OerHeksilhami5, depends, virtualbox or zen or whatever you use16:57
ilhami5Hyper-V OerHeks :)16:57
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OerHeksilhami5, then /join ##windows i guess16:58
ilhami5I asked there 100 times.16:58
ilhami5They don't know anything :D16:58
reisiorahules_: there should be a simpler, safer option available, IIRC16:58
rahules_reisio: and If i use Ctrl+Alt+T, I get the terminal window, without any decorations or transparency16:59
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ilhami5right now Ubuntu is installing.16:59
rahules_reisio: sorry, I don't understand16:59
ActionParsniprahules_: have you tried a non-compoziting session, like LXDE?16:59
reisiorahules_: no other DE options at the login screen?16:59
rahules_ActionParsnip: nop. After many failed attempts, I installed Cinnamon17:00
rahules_reisio: the only options came after installing cinnamon17:00
Keanu73how do I power on a ubuntu machine by using a windows machine17:00
ActionParsnipKeanu73: you can use wake on lan17:01
llutzKeanu73: wakeonlan/etherwake17:01
reisioKeanu73: you'd need to configure wake on lan, and get an app to send the requisite packets17:01
Keanu73I know Wake-on-LAN17:01
grouseyKeanu73: if your hardware supports it17:01
Keanu73but I can't get my ubuntu computer's MAC address..17:01
reisioKeanu73: sure you can17:01
Keanu73it's not showing on my router LAN information17:01
sthulbHey, I'm trying to install 13.10 on a MacBook Pro 8,2, but when I try to either: Try ubuntu or install ubuntu options from the grub menu, I get a black screen and just the bongo sound17:02
reisiothe easy way would be to get it from the booted ubuntu box itself17:02
elitereconi have to restart my computer to finish ill come back if it doesn't work thx17:02
llutzKeanu73: arp -a17:02
reisiosthulb: sounds like the graphics driver is failing17:02
reisiosthulb: you could CTRL+ALT+F2 and change it, but I don't know the command/s17:03
ActionParsnipKeanu73: ifconfig | grep -i hwa17:03
sthulbSorry, I cleared because my ssh connection screwed upppp17:03
sthulbCould you repeat that?17:04
Keanu73http://prntscr.com/328lr617:04
Keanu73see the picture17:05
ActionParsnipKeanu73: yes, why do we need that?17:05
Keanu73for proof17:05
Keanu73pictures are for proof17:05
ActionParsnipKeanu73: proof of waht?17:05
Keanu73well, showing what the computer name should be and the router i'm using17:05
ActionParsnipKeanu73: the command I gave will give the Ethernet address of the card, you need this for wake on lan17:05
Keanu73err...17:06
Keanu73but the computer is powered off17:06
Keanu73I want it to be switched on..17:06
sthulbHey, I'm trying to install 13.10 on a MacBook Pro 8,2, but when I try to either: Try ubuntu or install ubuntu options from the grub menu, I get a black screen and just the bongo sound17:06
ActionParsnipKeanu73: yes but if your bios supports wake on lan it will power on17:06
Keanu73oh..17:06
Keanu73oh wait17:06
Keanu73I think my PC doesn't support it17:06
ActionParsnipKeanu73: you do realise systems still use power when they are off17:06
seednodeNot once I unplug it!17:07
seednodeBut then WoL breaks17:07
seednodeFor some reason17:07
Keanu73xD17:07
ActionParsnipseednode: well yeah...17:07
llutzseednode: stupid wol17:07
seednodeBut yeah, for WoL to work, it needs to draw enough power to keep NIC functional17:07
seednodeWhich can be admittedly a small amount, but it does need it17:07
Keanu73but my windows laptop supports wake-on-lan I think17:07
reisiomost boxes support wake-on-lan17:08
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Keanu73oh well17:08
* Keanu73 stands at attention17:08
Keanu73hmm freenode staff?17:08
seednodeWhat?17:08
reisioKeanu73: #freenode17:08
Keanu73no..17:09
Keanu73"yano (~yano@freenode/staff/yano) has joined"17:09
Keanu73^17:09
seednodeThere are, in fact, some freenode staff17:09
Keanu73ah17:09
seednodeThough even if I was one, I wouldn't want to use a hostmask17:09
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seednodeI like showing off my IPv6 to the world17:09
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Keanu73well, just be careful17:10
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Keanu73hackers could DDoS your IP17:10
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Keanu73and you'll lose internet if you get DDoSed17:10
Keanu73you have to unplug your router quickly17:10
seednodeI do know how denial of service works, but thanks mate :D17:10
Keanu73yw17:10
Keanu73so just go into #freenode and get a unaffiliated cloa17:10
Keanu73*cloak17:10
Keanu73that'll protect you17:11
seednodeNah, it's all good17:11
seednodeI like my v617:11
ytwdon't you also get DDoS'd by the fact you unplugged the cable from router?17:11
seednodeytw, well17:11
seednodeThen you're just DoSed17:11
seednodeNo longer DDoS17:11
Keanu73once someone in #roblox was gonna DDoS one of CyberGhost's London servers17:11
seednodeAnd it's not 100%, as you'd still have lan traffic17:11
seednodeAlso, we're getting OT17:11
seednodeShould move to #ubuntu-offtopic if continuing17:12
Keanu73oops17:12
Keanu73wrong channel17:12
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sandman13how to update the system via commandline just after installing ubuntu17:16
seednodesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade17:17
llutzsandman13: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:17
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seednodeOh, right, you could do that17:17
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seednodeBut is it likely he'd need to run dist-upgrade right after install?17:17
seednodeapt isn't really my main package manager, not really sure what dist-upgrade is needed for17:18
llutzseednode: man apt-get17:18
seednodeBut17:18
seednodeNot running a system with apt right now :D17:18
mickskitzim just looking for some help with installing ubuntu 13.10 (64bit) to dual boot with windows 8.1 and have had a couple issues17:18
sandman13dist-upgrade upgrade the distro?17:18
m7aHello, does anyone here know how to restart gunicorn when their server restarted?17:18
seednodesandman13, you'd think so, from the command17:18
seednodebut I want someone to confirm17:18
sandman13i installed Ubuntu 13.1017:19
llutzseednode: easy thing http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get17:19
seednodeTa17:19
seednodeAh, intelligent dependency handling17:19
llutzsandman13: dist-upgrade will _not_ upgrade to a newer distro-version17:19
seednodeSo, is it recommended to always use dist-upgrade over upgrade?17:20
llutzseednode: if you want all your existing stuff being updated, yes17:21
seednodek17:21
seednodeWill include that in future advice17:21
ActionParsnipseednode: I do an upgrade then dist-upgrade17:21
llutzseednode: upgrade wouldn't update a package, when the newer version would need to install a new dependency (not installed before)17:21
seednodeAlright17:21
seednodeTIL17:21
llutzs/when/if/ *17:23
sandman13first message greeted by ubuntu "Software Updater closed unexpectedly"17:23
seednodewelp17:23
__sjhi installed 13.04 on an old laptop last night, it is not a nice experience any more!17:24
Artemis3__sjh, try xubuntu instead :)17:25
sandman13i get too many error of this kind is this normal?17:25
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seednodeI suppose I should probably run ubuntu in a VM or something17:27
seednodeInstead of being here even though last time I used ubuntu was feisty17:28
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__sjhArtemis3, just might do that later, it was on a friends retired laptop which is only wanted for a music box, unity was slow as molasses!17:32
__sjhi installed the gnome-fallback-session and no real improvement!17:32
Artemis3__sjh, also check lubuntu17:32
ActionParsnip__sjh: try Lubuntu or Xubuntu17:33
hamid88hi everybody first I installed ubuntu beside widows7 with using "usb universal" and booting system thats Ok. but afterwards I needed to try other distributions. and system dont boot up with usb for trying other distribution. May it involve withpervious ubuntu that I installed17:33
__sjhthanks both, is it possible convert the existing ubuntu install?17:33
__sjhlubuntu seems to be mostly lxde but i assume there is more to it than that?17:34
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ActionParsnip__sjh: install lxde package, log off, log in to LXDE session17:36
evilbugwhy would a computer running 13.04 automatically restart itself a few minutes after it's been shut down.17:36
dgarstangis there any way to easily rollback a deb pkg install?17:37
usr13evilbug: Why would any computer automatically restart itself a few minutes after it's been shut down?17:38
usr13evilbug: (I do not think it is a Ubuntu question.)17:38
Artemis3__sjh, the whole thing is called "lubuntu-desktop" instead of just lxde ;)17:39
usr13hamid88: Not a Ubuntu issue.17:39
Artemis3__sjh, but that will leave a lot of redundant ubuntu packages17:39
usr13dgarstang: Yea,  dpkg17:40
__sjhArtemis3, I'll give it a look, if its a pig then its going in the bin :)17:40
Artemis3__sjh, fresh install, or live image could be worth trying17:40
usr13dgarstang: -r or -P17:41
dgarstangusr13: rolling back is not easy17:41
dgarstangusr13: you can't have two versions of the same package installed at once17:41
usr13dgarstang: Sometimes you can, sonetimes you can't (usually, you have to remove existing one first).17:42
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usr13dgarstang: Actually, I think dpkg has something in the way of a downgrade option17:44
usr13dgarstang: See man dpkg17:45
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usr13dgarstang: But, it "will not warn you if the downgrade breaks the dependency of some other package. This can have serious side effects, downgrading essential system components can even make  your  whole system unusable. Use with care."17:46
evilbugusr13: i know but just ruling out stuff.17:46
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usr13evilbug: Ok17:47
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Barcelona1937 ei good day i got a problem with authentication Theft Deterrent Agent in ubuntu(magallanes)... i not got by default this agent live in icon notiffications....? someone could helpme a bit?17:49
usr13dgarstang: I suppose the above warning may not always be all that relevant and in most cases, if there is a dependency miss-match / problem, the app just won't work, or wont run properly.17:49
hawkinsirc.smashthestack.org17:50
jjavaholicwhat font is used in the span tags in the help.ubuntu.com pages?: an example http://imgur.com/jwuKBRw17:51
seednodeMy poor eyes...17:51
jjavaholicit is totally illegible on my machine17:52
usr13evilbug: It is a hardware problem. I would suspect an issue with the MB. I would clean it up and look for bulging caps.  (Make sure your system is not overheating, (overheating causes sensitive electronic components to fail).17:52
seednodePretty sure that's your font settings17:52
seednodeAnd not the website's17:52
seednodeHere, jjavaholic, link me that page, and I'll show you it on my machine17:52
jjavaholichttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia17:52
seednodeYeah, that's your settings17:53
seednodeWhat browser?17:53
seednodehttp://i.imgur.com/kQ3oRVV.png17:53
Artemis3usr13, the psu failing can also do the same17:53
usr13evilbug: As Artemis3 suggests, it could also be the power supply17:54
seednodejjavaholic, go to your browser's content settings, and check its default monospaced font17:54
linuxgeek_would anyone know if this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1012629 is fixed in precise 12.04.4. in the end, there is a note to fix in trusty.17:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1012629 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "grub-installer ignores "bootdev" setting in preseed file" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:54
jjavaholicdoes anyone want to suggest a decent font for monospaced font17:55
seednodejjavaholic, terminus17:55
seednodeThat and inconsolata are my favorites17:55
usr13evilbug: And you could test the power supply theory by unplugging the power switch cable from the MB17:55
seednodeOr if you don't like as terminal-looking, droid sans mono and plain monospace look nice17:56
usr13evilbug: (If it restarts on it's own without the power switch wires plugged into the MB, then it's more-than-likely the psu17:57
jjavaholicI don't think it is picking up the font I have selected17:58
seednodeWhat browser17:58
jjavaholicwhat font would it default to in that scenario?17:58
jjavaholicfirefox17:58
seednodeIt defaults to fonts tagged as monospace17:58
seednodeBut not sure where the fonts your pic showed come from17:58
seednodeAs none of those seem to even be on my machine17:59
skinofstarshey all. anyone know about default precise ami's on aws not responding to pings, and how one might enable ping?17:59
jjavaholicthat is the font I had selected for all my brower fonts: http://www.searchfreefonts.com/free/ahnberghand.htm18:00
usr13skinofstars: iptables -L18:00
seednodeenable ping?18:00
seednodeOh18:00
usr13skinofstars: iptables -L |pastebinit  #And we will look with you.18:01
seednodeWait, you piped in a statement, and then added poundsign18:01
skinofstarsusr13: thanks18:01
jaywitam18:01
seednodeI mean, makes copying easier, I suppose18:01
skinofstarsusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7121142/18:02
raj__while installing tomcat with apt-get it does not recongnize my installed oracle java(installed by downloading tar from oracle site), but on another system it recognizes the oracle java installed by webup8 ppa, so how do I make my manual oracle java installation be recognized by tomcat ?18:03
usr13skinofstars: sudo grep icmp /etc/ufw/before.rules18:04
OerHeksraj__, see the java documentation howto set oracle java as standard18:04
OerHeks!java18:04
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.18:04
usr13skinofstars: sudo grep icmp /etc/ufw/before.rules |pastebinit18:05
jjavaholicI have never understood why it the jdk also goes by the SDK acronym as well18:05
usr13skinofstars: Wait, from where are you trying to ping it?18:06
usr13skinofstars: What do you mean by "ami"?18:06
skinofstarsusr13: setting up a load balancer18:06
skinofstarsusr13: amazon machine image, as supplied by canonical18:07
usr13skinofstars: And you are pinging from _______________?18:07
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usr13skinofstars: Or, unable to ping from _________________?18:08
skinofstarsusr13: i am ping from local machine to diagnose why elb ping health check is failing. ping from local loses packets18:10
biaxs.xchat2/budus.so18:11
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Barcelona1937how intall Theft Deterrent Agent on ubuntu 12.0418:13
Barcelona1937?18:13
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usr13skinofstars: (was away for a few minutes...)  Okay, that's strange.  Can you show us some of the ping result?  Pastebinit?18:18
usr13skinofstars: ping -c5 localhost |pastebinit18:18
sunny_sllshello everybody18:19
sunny_sllsAfter updating to ubuntu 12.04 my hard drive is not getting detected18:19
sunny_sllsnor every my smart phone in media storage mode18:19
garyis2meThis is my last time to post  here,  simply because no one has ever acted like they have a clue as to help me to get my printer to work in Ubuntu 13.10.   My printer is a Brother MFC-295cn18:20
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usr13skinofstars: If I had to guess, I think I would call it a hardware issue.  Ive seen networks fail, not that often, but I've not noticed the process, (any anomilies leading up to failure).18:21
usr13I mean network interfaces, not "networks"18:21
skinofstarsusr13: i think i've found the issue and it isn't directly ping related18:21
skinofstarsusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7121241/18:21
usr13skinofstars: Ok, I'm curious...18:22
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sunny_sllsdoes hard drive doesn't get detected in ubuntu 12.04 version ?18:22
skinofstarsso that pasty has two bits in it. 1: result of suggested local ping seems fine. 2: server logs showing it being pinged by the health checker18:22
skinofstarsusr13: interestingly, aws health checks aren't using a real ping18:23
usr13skinofstars: Ok, I'm looking at it, but not sure what I'm looking at....18:23
skinofstarsusr13: first bit shows localhost responding to pings18:23
skinofstarsusr13: second, you're probably less interested in, but anyway, it shows server log responding to health checker, whcih was my initial issue18:24
skinofstarsusr13: and was failing because it's redirecting18:25
skinofstarsusr13: anyway, i'm happy i can sort it now. thanks for you time18:25
usr13skinofstars: Yea, it pings 4 times and then....?  (What about the 5th one, and the ping results...)18:25
lmatI'm looking at the package 'compiz' and 'compiz-gnome'. Do they rely on 'libwayland0' ?18:25
skinofstarsusr13: hah, i probably just didn't copy it :)18:26
skinofstarsusr13: 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2997ms18:26
usr13skinofstars: How could that be?  -c5 ?????18:27
usr13skinofstars: I was going to suggest you ping 127.0.0.118:27
sysadmin__hey there, anyone up to help me to load the correct drivers for my VGA?18:27
usr13skinofstars: Or your NIC's assigned IP address.18:28
usr13sysadmin__: lspci | pastebinit18:28
usr13sysadmin__: (... and show us resulting URL ....)18:29
sysadmin__usr13:   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)18:29
usr13sysadmin__: So, as it stands, you are running the OpenSource driver.  Right?18:30
sysadmin__usr13: it's telling me Driver Unknown on the GUI18:31
usr13sysadmin__: lsmod |grep nouveau18:31
lupinIIIHey guys I am looking for help with installing ubuntu along side of windows 8 with UEFI18:31
hellrazorhi there18:32
sysadmin__usr13: http://pastebin.com/EhEaRWKN18:32
usr13!uefi | lupinIII18:32
ubottulupinIII: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:32
lupinIIII've tried some of the steps mentioned in there with no success18:33
hellrazoris there an easy way do set up a raid1 in an already running ubuntu system with full disk encryption via luks??18:33
usr13sysadmin__: Ok, as I suspected, you are running the [correct] opensource driver nouveau at this time.  So, what you want to do is install Nvidia's prpoprietary driver.  Is that right?18:33
lupinIIIi disabled secure boot, tried setting bios to efi and legacy, and i cannot even get ubuntu to boot18:34
lupinIIIone time with trial and error, i got ubuntu to finally boot but it didn't show my 2nd hard drive which i wanted to install ubuntu onto18:34
lupinIIIi made an empty partition on the 2nd hard drive of 100gb but when i went to install it showed it at the full 750gb HD not partitioned18:35
usr13sysadmin__:  lsb_release -d   #What does that say?18:36
sysadmin__usr13: I had the integrated HD3000 chip before, now I installed a PCI express VGA and I see that when I drag some windows I see like the window split in two, like if the process of creating the image were delayed18:37
sysadmin__usr13:  Ubuntu 12.1018:37
usr13sysadmin__:  fully updated?18:38
sysadmin__usr13: yessir18:38
usr13sysadmin__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade18:38
wheatthinsysadmin__, which video card did you get?18:38
sysadmin__wheatthin: GeForce GTX 560 Ti Hawk18:39
wheatthinsysadmin__, You'll want to install the nvidia driver18:39
wheatthin!nvidia18:39
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto18:39
wheatthinsysadmin__, once you install it, it'll run through dkms and set everything up automatically18:40
wheatthinfollowed by a restart18:40
sysadmin__wheatthin: so I didnt have this problem before cause I was using the ATI HD3000 gpu?18:40
wheatthinyup, it'll update xorg file n stuff18:40
sysadmin__wheatthin: I never remember if it was ATI or NVIDIA to suck with linux18:41
wheatthinati unfortunately18:41
wheatthinwell opencl is easy to get working anywho :P18:41
wheatthinI'm on hd 5450, which is ati, and it's working smoothly.. only 256mb of ram18:41
usr13wheatthin: Yea, could probably just delete the xorg.conf file for now.18:44
usr13wheatthin: A new one will be created anyway, but if you have an xorg.conf file while running nouveau, it should be done away with.18:45
hellrazorhow can set up a raid1 in an already running ubuntu system with full disk encryption via luks??18:46
wheatthinhellrazor, did you try google?18:46
usr13wheatthin: .. but if you are using both cards, you may need it.18:46
wheatthinor ask ubuntu?18:46
wheatthinusr13, not me, sysadmin__  :)18:46
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usr13wheatthin: Oh, sorry, (I jumped the track)...18:47
hellrazorwheatthin, i did google a lot of stuff about, but i am unsure of how to make the new configuration work properly (mdadm.conf mtab etc..)18:47
sysadmin__usr13: I cannot use both because HD3000 is integrated on the CPU... but I might wanna to go back and remove the VGA18:48
usr13sysadmin__: Ok.18:49
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gingeyhi all, I'm trying to use openvas command line (omp) and having some major issues.  I am using the command omp -h 127.0.0.1 -p 9390 -u <username> -w <password> -C -n test -t <ipToScan>, but I'm getting nowhere.  Anyone got anything?18:58
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jjavaholicthis: http://i.imgur.com/jwuKBRw.png happens in firefox and chrome must be something wrong with my systemwide font settings19:04
OerHeksjjavaholic, looks oke, just a nice handwriting font19:04
raubSo, from what I read in the update-ca-certificates man page, if I add/delete a cert to /usr/share/ca-certificates, how can I verify if it has been added/deleted once I run update-ca-certificates19:04
usr13!omp | gingey19:05
saiarcot895Did someone pull the trigger for 14.04 a little early? I got a notification that 14.04 is available19:05
jjavaholicI can't read the commands span content is that just me?19:06
bpromptjjavaholic:   it happens on a specific url or on any url whatsoever?19:06
jjavaholicI don't know of any other example19:07
jjavaholicthat uses spans like the help.ubuntu.com pages do19:07
c_kornhello, why does `dlocate -md5check libkeyutils1` tell me "Package libkeyutils1 not installed or has no md5sums." (it is installed definitely)19:07
jjavaholicall the help.ubuntu.com pages with commands on both firefox and chrome browsers19:08
lmatc_korn: How definitely ?19:10
lmatc_korn: dpkg --get-selections | grep -i libkeyutils | wc -l    ?19:10
c_kornlmat: 119:10
bpromptjjavaholic:    so other urls work fine?19:11
c_kornii  libkeyutils1                         1.5.2-2                           Linux Key Management Utilities (library) <-- to be exact19:11
jjavaholicI might look at the css and see if I have to overwrite it19:11
mmiller13Does anyone knows why my network card keeps disconnecting from it's wireless connection? I've switched to wicd, even downgraded the driver and i'm still getting disconnected19:11
jjavaholicbut that'll only work in firefox19:12
mmiller13After the disconnect the wireless signal decreased and the only way to connect is a reboot.19:12
jjavaholicit is the only page I know that uses span tags19:12
bpromptjjavaholic:     could just be some ADDON or EXTENSION you installed that maybe acting awry19:12
jjavaholicI have cut down on the addon extension this is a newly installed overwrite of 13.1019:13
bpromptjjavaholic:    that is, for the browser, nothing wrong with your font settings necessarily19:13
jjavaholicyou would think little could go wrong19:13
OerHeksmmiller13, some wlan adapters do not work well in N mode, trottle back to wireless B/G19:13
rallyoneWhy am I getting this error message?19:14
rallyoneHere is the screenshot19:14
rallyonehttp://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg19:14
rallyoneit happens every time I try to install GIMP19:15
lmatc_korn: Well, can't argue with that ^_^19:15
namihi19:15
lmatc_korn: I'll guess that it doesn't have any checksums then :)19:15
lmatnami: NOOO!!!19:16
c_kornlmat: sorry, reconnect. your command's output is 119:17
lmatc_korn: yup, got that :)19:18
lmatc_korn: I'm going to guess that there are no keys then ^_^19:18
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c_kornlmat: but there is a MD5SUMS file in here: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/k/keyutils/libkeyutils1_1.5.5-7_amd64.deb19:20
b1g3m14.04 3 year support now?19:20
jjavaholicI can't find the id css line-1-2 selector on help.ubuntu.com binarydriverhowto page19:20
lmatc_korn: So it's not looking there...19:20
k1lb1g3m: no. 5 years19:20
Naphatuldoes 13.10 not have workspaces by default?19:20
lmatnami: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype19:21
b1g3mk1l: thanks19:21
lmatNaphatul: What's a workspace ? Is it what lesser men might call a "desktop" ?19:21
Naphatullmat, yes same thing virtual desktops19:21
Naphatulso?19:23
lmatNaphatul: I don't use ubuntu 13...sorry19:23
phunyguyb1g3m: for Ubuntu, I am pretty sure it is 5 years, but not for every variant, like Xubuntu, and the like.  I know Xubuntu only does a 3 year LTS.19:24
jjavaholicthe only thing I see in the screen.css for help.ubuntu.com page is font-family: monospace; ??19:24
reisiojjavaholic: is that a question?19:25
jjavaholichow does that explain: http://i.imgur.com/jwuKBRw.png19:25
reisiojjavaholic: UbuntuMono, courier, monospace19:27
reisioyour UbuntuMono copy or whatever the browser is using for it is probably far out19:28
Naphatulwhat's the reasoning behind disabling workspaces in 13.10?19:28
Naphatulit's disabled by default19:28
mmiller13Does anyone knows why my network card keeps disconnecting from it's wireless connection? I've switched to wicd, even downgraded the driver and i'm still getting disconnected19:28
mmiller13After the disconnect the wireless signal decreased and the only way to connect is a reboot.19:28
jjavaholicfar out?19:28
ice9how to find how much ram the graphics card is using?19:29
reisioNaphatul: ...because you can enable them if you want them?19:29
seednodeLike, how much of its vRAM?19:29
reisioand most people don't even understand the concept?19:29
reisioNaphatul: probably what they were thinking19:29
reisioNaphatul: if you want something more level, use ordinary GNOME19:30
reisioor... MATE19:30
reisioor better yet Xfce19:30
Naphatulreisio, gnome is not much better in that department19:30
Naphatuli just think workspaces are a great feature why would you disable them by defualt19:30
reisionot much better is still better :p19:30
jjavaholicreisio: what did you mean by "far out"?19:30
reisioNaphatul: again, most people don't even get the notion19:30
reisioNaphatul: and might accidentally click one and be enraged :p19:31
reisiojjavaholic: inaccurate19:31
mmiller13does anyone know how to check a raid 5 for missing data19:31
reisiodiff it against your backup19:31
mmiller13I think they might be data  present on my hard disk that are not represented in the raid array19:32
reisiowhy exactly do you have a raid array?19:33
reisiobecause there are sensible and less reasons to have one19:33
mmiller13I have a tower19:33
reisioa tower?19:34
MooDootower case!19:34
mmiller13do you have a answer to the question19:34
mmiller13why else would i have a  raid19:35
bekksmmiller13: Which kind of RAID - hw or sw?19:35
reisiohaving a "tower" is not really a reason to use raid19:35
MooDoono but it allows you to put all the drives in it :D19:36
mmiller13I have a wd sharespace with a raid 519:36
reisio"wanting to give simultaneous access to our thousands of users" would be a good reason19:36
jjavaholicsoftware raid or hardware raid 5?19:36
reisioMooDoo: so does an ordinary lv19:36
bekksmmiller13: Then wd provides the tools used to check that.19:36
mmiller13software19:36
mmiller13Does anyone knows why my network card keeps disconnecting from it's wireless connection? I've switched to wicd, even downgraded the driver and i'm still getting disconnected19:36
mmiller13does anyone know how to check a raid 5 for missing data19:37
mmiller13I think they might be data  present on my hard disk that are not represented in the raid array19:37
bekksmmiller13: Then use the wd tools to check the wd raid.19:37
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jjavaholicI don't know about ubuntu but if you are using mdraid (don't remember if this is what it is called) it has a list of options to check health of your raid19:37
jjavaholicmdadm?19:38
bekksjjavaholic: No. WD custom blackbox with a web gui.19:38
mmiller13why would they be data on the hard disk thats not being represented int the raid19:38
bekksmmiller13: Why not? Because you did not copy the data to the raid.19:39
mmiller13so is there a way to check the hard disk aginst the raid19:39
mrmustard_What's the proper way to pull in a mostly complete xorg source build via apt-get source? is there a metapackage that can grab the source for xorg xserver + extensions?19:40
bekksmmiller13: No. There are just tools to copy, like rsync.19:40
jjavaholicare you talking about a smart check?19:40
bekksjjavaholic: No. About a content check - "which files were not copied to the raid yet".19:41
mmiller13I have a tower with 4 1TB hard disk, there's some 500GB of data missing. I need too check each HD aginst the s=data in the raid in order to salvage some of the data back19:41
bekksmmiller13: Then read the answer I just gave you.19:42
mmiller13Why are you talking to me19:42
mmiller13if you don't have an answer19:42
mmiller13i'm confuse as to why your helping me without an answer?19:43
bekksmmiller13: Because you are asking. And I have an answer, which doesnt mean that you a) understand it, or b) want to look up what "rsync" is about.19:43
bekksHowever. I will not care about your issue anymore.19:43
pedahzurHow do I found out what packages are slated for "security" updates? I see the information when I log in. If I run /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check, I see the count of each; if I run it with --package-names, I see all the packages to upgrade, but no breakdown of which are security and which are regular updates.  How can I print out just the "security" updates?19:45
mmiller13does anyone know if a channel that might be knowledgeable with technical issues with Raid setups19:46
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dgarstanghm, asked this question earlier and had to run off. There's no way to easily rollback a deb pkg install is there? removing the current one and reinstalling old one isn't exactly fast as you can't normally have two versions in the same repo19:46
pedahzurmmiller13: maybe #linux?  What kind of question. Why not ask here first?19:47
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reisiodgarstang: not what most people would call "easily", no19:48
mmiller13I have a raid 5 that has missing data, I need help with checking for missing data on the disk that might not be in the raid array19:48
dgarstangreisio: yah this is a problem.19:49
jjavaholicI don't think your issue is really raid related if i was you I would do the caluclations for when I think the transfer should end and then compare the source and destination mount points/folders for discrepancy in terms of files and folder counts.19:49
pedahzurmmiller13: Missing data?  You mean a deleted file? Or a file just "vanished?"  Or is a disk not in the array?19:49
bekksjjavaholic: "rsync" is the answer :)19:49
reisiodgarstang: there are a number of FSes you could use to easily create snapshots of a system19:50
mmiller13I think there is a multi disk that's not being included19:50
reisiodgarstang: or you could just setup a staging system19:50
reisiommiller13: if you weren't using RAID, you'd not have this problem19:51
sireorioni cant install anything19:51
sireorionin terminal19:51
bekkssireorion: Why not?19:51
usr13sireorion: What seems to be the problem?19:51
dgarstangreisio: we have staging. staging isn't a replacement for rollbacks19:52
usr13sireorion: Do you get a specific error messag?  If so, share it with us.19:52
dgarstangreisio: at this point, deploying with a tarball is easier19:52
dgarstangreisio: which is kinda sad, but..19:52
usr13!paste | sireorion19:52
ubottusireorion: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:52
sireorionusr13, http://pastebin.com/PaYHrzCf19:52
eddiehello, anyone good with wine?19:52
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Guest24261got a question19:52
dgarstanghehe19:52
systestwhat are the large, well respected public repos for 3rd party ubuntu packages?  e.g. in the CentOS world I'd be turning to places like EPEL19:53
mmiller13is there a way to check each disk outside the array to make sure that there nothing missing19:53
dgarstangmy relationship with wine is terrible19:53
olalondewhat does apt-get update do?19:53
Guest24261I have loaded a program and it installed correctly but now I cant find it19:53
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mmiller13I might've switched from a Raid 1 to a 5 and didn't notice the data got erased19:54
Cheryl_cJust replaced the power supply on my computer. Now when I try to boot I am getting an error which says "..MBR Error3" and MBR error119:54
olalondeGuest24621: try `which program_name` in command line19:54
usr13sireorion: Are you using any PPAs?19:54
sireorionyeap19:54
sireorionone for boot-repair19:54
bekksCheryl_c: Was it a windows system?19:55
Cheryl_cI changed it to ubuntu a long time ago19:56
bekksCheryl_c: Did you still have something like Acronis installed?19:56
usr13sireorion: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade19:56
NahNohNehbekks, Cheryl_c SirCmpwn user1  hello sons19:56
sireorionand pastebin?19:56
Cheryl_cbekks: no19:56
usr13sireorion: If you get errors do  sudo apt-get -f install19:57
usr13sireorion: If that completes without errors try again,  sudo apt-get install playonlinux19:57
sireorionusr13, ok19:58
usr13sireorion:  sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update   #And then try again.19:58
bekksCheryl_c: Thats sounds like the windows bootloader was still active and got corrupted now. You could try to repair grub.19:58
bekks!grub2 | Cheryl_c19:58
ubottuCheryl_c: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:58
sireorionerror19:59
bekkssireorion: Which "error"?20:00
usr13sireorion: lsb_release -d20:00
Cheryl_cbekks: I thought that I disconnected the windows disk20:00
bekksCheryl_c: Right before replacing the PSU?20:00
RearAdmiralWolfyis there anyway to disable i386 packages?20:00
Cheryl_cbekks: no, a long time ago20:00
bekksRearAdmiralWolfy: Why isnt uninstalling them enough?20:01
usr13sireorion: lsb_release -d    #Tell is what that says.20:01
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RearAdmiralWolfybekks, no, disabling them from apt20:01
bekksRearAdmiralWolfy: Why isnt uninstalling enough?20:01
sireorionusr13, http://pastebin.com/9gTaPLdH20:02
bekksRearAdmiralWolfy: Ubuntu is a multilib system, so it is intended they are enabled.20:02
ScrivenerHey gang!20:02
reisioheya scriv20:03
ScrivenerI've tried looking around, and these are difficult terms to query -- I am on a Thinkpad T430 with only intel HD4000 graphics. With the Lenovo-brand dock, I am using 2 external displays as well as the laptop display.20:03
ScrivenerSometimes when I open System Settings, the two external displays stop functioning.20:03
rallyonehey guys20:03
usr13sireorion: No errors there, it said "finished"  (Färdig)20:04
usr13sireorion: Right?20:04
rallyonewhat does this error message in xterm mean?20:04
sireorionyeap20:04
rallyonehttp://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg20:04
ScrivenerThey turn off, and the content moves to the laptop's display, as though I disconnected it.20:04
rallyoneI got this after trying to install firefox on ubuntu20:04
rallyonehttp://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg20:04
ScrivenerWhen I open the settings again after closing it, they come back.20:04
Pessimist!ops20:04
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ScrivenerThis can occur when I open anything that is part of the Settings menu as well, such as directly going to sound settings from the icon in the system tray.20:04
Pessimistban rallyone please20:04
usr13sireorion: So try again,  sudo apt-get install playonlinux20:04
OerHeksrallyone, please return to #freenode with your message20:04
ScrivenerI concur with Pessimist20:05
seednodeWhat just happened20:05
sireorionusr13, http://pastebin.com/KCK9Rtx020:05
ScrivenerRallynode linked porn20:05
ScrivenerWith his question20:05
seednodeAh20:05
seednodeThanks20:05
reisioScrivener: sweet20:06
reisioaw, I don't see any link from him20:06
reisiooh there20:06
Picilets move on...20:06
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ScrivenerYeah really.20:06
MooDooiios20:07
MooDoooops20:07
reisioew, you could've said what genre it was :/20:07
usr13sireorion: Is this a 64bit system?20:07
sireorionyes20:07
ScrivenerSo does anyone have familiarity with an issue if external displays ceasing to function sometimes when opening the System Settings menu?20:07
Jonnyw2kI dont get UEFI/Secure Boot :/20:07
ScrivenerOr perhaps have some good search terms for me?20:07
ScrivenerMine didn't get me anything related when I shopped around.20:07
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usr13sireorion: sudo apt-get install -f playonlinux20:08
usr13sireorion: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2811220:08
sireorionusr13, same error20:08
PessimistScrivener, opening it shouldn't effect anything if it's properly programmed. You can upload Xorg.0.log and we may spot the errors you are having20:09
usr13sireorion: apt-get policy wine20:09
usr13sireorion: What does ^^^^^ say?20:09
ScrivenerPessimist, will do20:10
sireorionusr13, broken pakage20:10
sireorionusr13, i opend the url...should i edit?20:10
PessimistScrivener, does it really happen *only* when you are opening it?20:10
usr13sireorion: apt-cache policy wine-unstable20:11
usr13sireorion: It looks to me like a key dependency is "wine-unstable"  and you do not have it and can't get it with the repositories you have.20:11
sireorionusr13,  ok20:12
usr13sireorion: apt-cache policy wine-unstable |grep Candidate20:12
ScrivenerPessimist, yes, opening the System Settings menu, or the Sound settings (which are inside System Settings)...20:12
ScrivenerAnd worse, it doesn't happen *consistently*, just sometimes when it's opened.20:12
usr13sireorion: I have never installed playonlinux, nor have I installed wine-unstable so I dono...20:13
ScrivenerPessimist, so I can paste this, how can I quickly send the log to the clipboard at the CLI?20:13
sireorionusr13,  damn20:13
ScrivenerIn return, have my favorite alias: alias please='sudo $(history -p !-1)'20:13
ScrivenerSaves time.20:13
PessimistScrivener, I like this: <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us20:14
PessimistScrivener, you can make yourself an alias too :)20:14
usr13sireorion: see:  https://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu20:14
usr13sireorion: I have to warn you though, that the PPA's that you install from can [and usually do] cause problems with the package management system in the future, so just remember what you've done so that you can undo it later on.20:16
sireorionok i have the ppa adress20:17
usr13sireorion: Okeydokey, you should be good to go...20:17
sireorionusr13, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair20:18
sireorionshoud i remove it?20:18
sireorioncan it fix it?20:18
ScrivenerPessimist, http://pastebin.com/H4KPaJEa20:22
sireorionusr13, hod do i remove "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair"20:22
ScrivenerFinally. I spent a lot of time trying to deal with clipboards and vim... just opened it in Sublime and did Select All :P20:22
ScrivenerEr, and if that didn't work, try again. I had to do the spam captcha.20:23
sireorionhow do i remove an ppa20:24
Pessimistsireorion, there is a program called ppa-remove (iirc) or (advanced) you can remove the packages you installed from that ppa, edit your sources.list and apt-get update20:25
OerHekssireorion, ppa -purge20:25
vusiesireorion: DO YOU HAVE SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER?20:25
OerHeks!ppapugre20:25
OerHeks!ppa-pugre20:25
PessimistScrivener, do you have a Xorg.conf?20:25
sireorioni dont know20:25
Pessimist!ppapurge20:26
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html20:26
OerHeksthanks Pessimist20:26
ScrivenerPessimist, sireorion you can also edit PPAs in the Software & Updates tab "Other Software"20:26
ScrivenerAt least if you're looking at what I'm looking at.20:26
ScrivenerPessimist, lemme check20:26
PessimistScrivener, but that doesn't remove packages from the ppas you uncheck afaik20:26
sireorionok20:27
ScrivenerPessimist, nope20:27
ScrivenerI do not have an Xorg.conf20:27
LaykeIf I install the final beta 14.04 next week, will I be able to upgrade it to 14.04 LTS in april?20:29
PessimistScrivener, weird. You have a bunch of 'switch to mode AxB@Hz' in Xorg.0.log though20:29
PessimistLayke, yes, just upgrade the packages and soon your system will get oficially 'tagged' as 14.0420:29
freddoHey folks i'm after some advice on what virtualisation option to go for. I have high spec i7/16gig decent ram. Looking to run smb server, apache/dev server and a pbx in the client boxes :)20:29
Squarismhey, is there some graphical version of less avaiable? Like a reader of sorts with the speed and lightness of less?20:30
freddoI'm fine with linux but no clue on virtualisaiton options20:30
Laykeokay great.. I'm delaying buying a new system to ditch my 12.0420:30
seednodeSquarism, why do you need graphical less?20:30
ScrivenerPessimist, well a "$ sudo find / -name Xorg.conf" revealed nothing.20:30
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ScrivenerShould I do a fuzzier search?20:30
Squarismseednode, i want to copy stuff from a log file... with less i need to mark page, copy paste, pg down, repeat20:31
OerHeksScrivener, standard you do not have a xorg.conf, make one if you need it20:31
seednodeSquarism, well, I'd usually just open in gedit or something20:31
seednodeAnd copy that way20:31
ScrivenerThere's /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d20:31
seednodeOr, if it's specific lines, maybe cat into grep and append to a file20:32
PessimistScrivener, it's usually in /etc/X11/ (man Xorg.conf). Your Xorg.0.log shows a lot of display mode changes for some reason. Were you changing them?20:32
ScrivenerI was not changing them manually, no.20:32
ScrivenerI might've adjusted their positioning slightly (height and such relative to each other), but just once or twice, and this issue has persisted long before I did that.20:33
seednodeSquarism, from what I can tell by what you said, opening in gedit or such and copying from there is best way20:33
PessimistScrivener, what's the output of xrandr?20:34
Squarismseednode, oh ok thanks... i guess that works. I wonder if its good for enormous files though? By the organization of gedit UI i assume whoever made it isnt very bright20:35
seednodeHeh20:35
Squarism...so im a bit reluctant on embracing it20:35
ScrivenerPessimist, http://pastebin.com/Gs5U9VZC20:35
ScrivenerThere you go!20:35
seednodeSquarism, try a different text editor, then20:36
Squarismseednode, any good ideas? Im clueless20:36
Squarism...on the "lightweight" / handles enormous files department20:37
sireorionhttp://pastebin.com/8RY7veMH20:38
reisioSquarism: Vim :)20:38
PessimistScrivener, do you know the command to open the 'system settings' application? Try running it from the terminal and see if it drops any error messages. I'm really out of ideas :) As the final solution you can try filling a bug report20:38
Squarismnothing post 1982?  =D20:38
PessimistScrivener, or try 14.04 and see if the behaviour persists20:38
ScrivenerI don't know the command, but I'll find it ;)20:39
PessimistScrivener, be sure to try 14.04 and see if the behaviour persists before filling a bug report20:40
ScrivenerPessimist, I might be moving back to Arch or Mint soon before I get a chance to try out 14.04, but I'll keep that in mind.20:43
ScrivenerI like Unity's global menu and some of the window navigation functionality, but I recently changed my workflow to use Synapse + Docky instead of the Unity launcher/dash.20:44
ScrivenerIf I can get similar navigation in another distro I think I'll be hopping :)20:44
seednodeIf a form of navigation is available in one distro20:44
seednodeAs a rule of thumb, it can be achieved in any20:44
seednodeThough with varying levels of effort to get there20:45
Scrivenerseednode, can be achieved, yeah, but this may just be an integral part of Unity.20:45
PessimistScrivener, some user is maintaining a repo called "Unity-for-Arch" -- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/unity#From_repository_.28recommended.29 :)20:45
ScrivenerAnd it's not worth the effort for me to try to pull that out by itself.20:45
seednodeI suppose20:45
PoppaVicOK, quick question: making a clean install, want to create an ISO and bootable stick. What program creates this ISO nicely?20:45
ScrivenerBy far out of my area of expertise, which is mainly in AWS/systems admin stuff.20:45
reisioPoppaVic: from what OS?20:45
seednodeScrivener, well, if you do want to do that sometime20:45
PoppaVic12.0420:46
seednodeLet me know20:46
reisioPoppaVic: unetbootin is pretty intuitive20:46
PoppaVicres\\\\\\ok, thanks20:46
reisioPoppaVic: I'd use 'dd', but there's a greater element of danger20:46
ScrivenerPessimist, Unity for Arch does seem neat, but I primarily want to pull a couple pieces of it out while leaving the launcher and dash out of the picture. Primarily just the window spreading, workspace switching stuff.20:46
PoppaVicyeah, I want monkey-simple20:46
ScrivenerThe parts that are least recognizable as Unity, I guess :P20:46
reisioPoppaVic: unetbootin is a pretty ordinary gui app :)20:46
ScrivenerI can hide the launcher and set sensitivity to 0 so it doesn't show, but it's still there and applications seem to minimize over to it.20:47
PoppaVicGood deal, I want to insure I can reinstall with baseline apps regardless of my idiot lappy-dejour20:47
PessimistPoppaVic, you download the iso from ubuntu.com and then write it to a usb stick :) there are various programs. If you do that from a GNU/Linux system I would recommend you to use `dd` but it's your choice.20:48
ScrivenerAs well, I can disable super-tapping for the dash, but that's still there.20:48
seednodeWhat does it say about me that I find i3 considerably more intuitive than unity20:48
ScrivenerI was thinking of investigating it with Cinnamon.20:48
PoppaVicPessimist, thanks20:48
Scrivenerseednode, I haven't honestly used it, but I've heard great things.20:48
reisioseednode: that you don't understand what 'intuitive' means20:48
reisioseednode: that you prefer it says that you are quite sensible, though :p20:48
seednodereisio, nothing in unity is where I think it would be20:48
ScrivenerIsn't i3 just really extensible/customizable?20:48
seednodeam I misunderstanding "intuitive"?20:48
reisiomagic things happening after keystrokes is not remotely intuitive20:48
reisiointuitive is what a monkey would expect to happen20:49
seednodeMaybe my intuition has changed after 15 years of working mainly in CLI20:49
seednode:P20:49
ScrivenerWell, "intuitive" in the sense of UI tends to mean -- yeah.20:49
reisioyou peel a banana, it's full of fruit20:49
seednodereisio, that's not intuitive, per se20:49
ScrivenerYou hit keystrokes and what you innately expected, with no foreknowledge, happens.20:49
ScrivenerLike "Oh well that makes perfect sense that it did that"20:49
reisionot you press CTRL+ALT+b, and you are fed a banana by a robot20:49
seednodeThey have ages of behavioral tendencies leading to that20:49
seednodeSo then intuitive varies by species20:49
seednodeAnd by background20:49
ScrivenerOh dear.20:49
ScrivenerAnyway, what do you like about i3, seednode?20:49
reisiointuitive only has anything to do with extremely common shortcuts20:49
reisioctrl+c should copy, +v should paste, etc.20:50
seednodereisio, alright, we'll play by your rules today20:50
reisiotiling wms are very much the minority20:50
reisioseednode: MUAHAHAH20:50
seednodeBut "Ctrl+v" is not in any way intuitive by your definition20:50
seednodesince a monkey would not expect hitting "Control" and "v" to paste something20:50
reisioit is, since it's so common20:50
ScrivenerI myself like a minimal, nice-looking graphical environment that I can still interact with by keystroke.20:50
seednodeSo, it's by background, again20:50
ScrivenerBut I have yet to try a WM.20:50
seednodeAnd I was right20:50
seednode:D20:50
reisioseednode: a monkey living in this society would :p20:50
seednodeI don't live in your society20:50
reisiolucky20:50
sunny_sllshey, when i do lsusb command. it shows external hard drive attached in ubuntu 12.04 but the drive doesn't get mounted20:50
sunny_sllshow can i mount my hard drive ?20:50
seednodeBut okay, fine, I'll rephrase to match your ideas20:51
seednodei3 is more ergonomic, and efficient20:51
Scrivenersunny_slls, if you try "$ls /dev/sd*, what shows up?20:51
Scrivener"$ls /dev/sd*" (no quotes) rather20:52
seednodeAnd Scrivener, what I like about it is that it does what I tell it to do, instantly20:52
seednodeThere's no delay, no opening things I didn't tell it to, no embedded ads :P20:53
sunny_sllsScrivener, /dev/sda   /dev/sda2  /dev/sda6  /dev/sda8  /dev/sdb20:53
Scrivenerseednode, that is always awesome20:53
Pessimistsunny_slls, it should get mounted automatically though. Maybe the filesystem is corrupt or it's ntfs and you haven't installed ntfs-3g?20:53
seednodeAnd no noticeable resource usage20:53
Scrivenersunny_slls, now if you disconnect the drive and run that command again, what is the output?20:53
seednodeBut I have all the time in the world to convert you to the tiling side20:53
reisioheh20:53
sunny_sllsPessimist, previously it used to mount automatically when i had ubuntu 10.04 LTS20:53
Scrivenerseednode, haha, I'll probably give it a shot with Arch20:53
sunny_sllstoday i upgraded it to 12.0420:53
seednodeI'm running i3 in arch20:54
seednodeone of us20:54
sunny_sllssince then its not mounting it20:54
ScrivenerOn the nearest 3-day weekend when I try to reinstall and build my dev environment in it20:54
seednodeMy favorite thing about thinkpads is this20:54
seednodeAbove the left and right arrow keys, there's the XF86Back and XF86Forward keys20:54
seednodeI bind them to previous and next workspace20:54
Scrivenersunny_slls, if you run the command again with the drive not connected, does /dev/sdb disappear?20:54
seednodeAnd it improves my workflow so much; it's just less awkward than multikey combos to switch20:54
reisioso you like that there are keys there at all20:54
reisio'cause you can bind any key to anything :p20:54
seednodeI like that I have keys with no other function20:54
seednodeNo overlap with mandatory functions20:55
sunny_sllsScrivener, yes20:55
seednodeAnd they're in a convenient location for it, I'll admit20:55
Scrivenerseednode, I cannot tell you how happy those key placements make me20:55
seednodeI could bind g and h to switch workspaces, but that might interrupt other keybinds a wee bit20:55
ScrivenerIt's super useful for me too20:55
Scrivenersunny_slls, then that's your external drive20:55
ScrivenerYou can mount it thus:20:55
Scrivener$ sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt20:55
sunny_sllshey just now again when i connected it , it started working20:56
ScrivenerAh, awesome :)20:56
seednodeScrivener, if you do end up using arch, hit me up in pms; I have a few tweak suggestsions20:56
ScrivenerI've used Arch before, but not on this laptop.20:57
sunny_sllsScrivener, also my android phone if connected to system as media storage device, it doesn't get detected20:57
ScrivenerI used it before on a bargain basement awful Inspiron 1525.20:57
ScrivenerIt ran KDE faster than it ran Gnome 2 with Mint.20:57
ScrivenerThis was back during 11.04.20:57
seednodeThe performance difference between Windows 7 and any linux distro on this machine is enormous; and this is an i7, you'd think it would handle windows no problem20:57
seednodeBut I'm kinda pulling us offtopic, so20:57
seednodeI'll be in #ubuntu-offtopic20:57
sunny_sllsScrivener, this time the device is detected as /dev/sdb120:58
Scrivenersunny_slls, the Android phone?20:58
ScrivenerIs this with or without the external hard drive still detected?20:58
inv3nt0rHi everyone. Having trouble getting an SFTP server running correctly. From the remote machine I can SSH in no problem, but when I try SFTP I am asked for user name and password which are accepted (according to /var/log/auth.log) then I am immediately disconnected.20:58
sunny_sllsnope only the hard drive20:58
ScrivenerOh, yes, if the hard drive is detected as sdb1, that's good.20:58
sunny_sllswith external hard drive detected20:58
ScrivenerThat's the first partition on /dev/sdb20:58
sunny_sllsthen what is /dev/sdb ?20:59
sunny_sllsif sdb1 is hard drive20:59
inv3nt0rLast message in auth.log is: Received disconnect from xx.xx.xx.xx: 11: disconnected by user20:59
sunny_sllsnever mind Scrivener now even the phone is detecting21:00
sunny_sllsits weird21:01
Scrivenersunny_slls, huh21:02
Pessimistsunny_slls, from my linux experience: /dev/sdb is the device file, /dev/sdb[1-N] are the actual partitions21:02
ScrivenerGlad it's worked out21:02
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Pessimistthis can be wrong though21:02
ScrivenerI think you're right, Pessimist21:02
sunny_sllsPessimist, ok thanks for explanation21:05
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ice9how to reset notify-osd configuration?21:14
reisioice9: find ~/ -iname '*notify*'21:14
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ice9reisio: found nothing21:15
reisioice9: then it's probably in the "registry"21:19
reisioice9: use configuration editor21:19
ice9reisio: register is under ~/ too so it should have found it21:20
trismice9: it only has two settings, gravity and multihead-mode, what are you trying to reset?21:21
euxnekshowdy, attempting to install libgtk3-dev and I get this:  The following package has unmet dependencies [...] Depends: libgtk-3-0 (= 3.8.6-0ubuntu3.1) but 3.10.6-0ubuntu2~saucy1 is to be installed21:22
euxneksI had gnome3 dev installed from a ppa but I'm pretty sure I purged it21:22
ice9trism: I installed i3wm so it modified the the location and all settings of the notification pubble, I want to reset it all21:22
trismice9: notify-osd doesn't have all those options so you must be using another notification daemon21:23
reisioice9: the registry is, but it's not necessarily named as a file or directory, or even in plain text, unfortunately21:24
trismice9: dunst is the default with i3 I think21:24
ice9trism: right, I removed it now how to use the notification-daemon instead?21:25
pvl1nethogs tells me i have two instances of sshd running, why is it to21:26
pvl1two21:26
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sarthakHow do you open a new process of the same application?21:27
trismice9: if you have notify-osd installed and dunst isn't running, it should auto start next time a notification is sent: notify-send test message;21:27
ice9trism: notify-send works fine but any other notifications doesn't even audio and brightness notifcations doesn't show21:28
usr13trism: ice9 Do you need to find out if notify-osd is installed?  If so; apt-cache policy notify-osd21:29
ice9usr13: it's installed21:29
trismice9: yeah the brightness/volume notifications are a notify-osd extension, they won't send them if it isn't running, or another notification daemon is21:30
usr13ice9: Ok, well, I'm late to the conversation, don't know what you guys are doing, just thought I'd through that in there, if it's not useful, disregard.21:30
trismice9: although you should still get them in the center of the screen from gnome-settings-daemon21:30
ice9trism: usr13: I removed dust and reinstalled notify-osd, works by notify-send only21:31
trismice9: assuming you are in gnome/unity now21:31
ice9unity21:31
trismice9: is dunst still running? ps aux | grep dunst; you might need to kill it21:31
ice9trism: yeah thanks, it works now21:32
lvhHi!21:32
lvhI'm having difficulty upgrading my ulimit for nmber of open file descriptors; it is stuck at 1024. I have set the systemwide limit as high as it will go, but still get following error, ven as root: bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted21:33
lvhEven when doing sudo -i /bin/bash to simulate a new login, the limits stay21:36
fufoa21:37
icerootlvh: why you want to change the limit? its coming directly from the kernel at boot and will reflect your system-limits (ram for example) if i am correct since newer kernels its not possible to change the limit, its done by the kernel and you should not change it (i guess it was since 3.x)21:42
SaekoHi, is there a way to easily setup wordpress on a server. I tried install the web server and mysql but I cant get the ftp to work21:42
brat_exit21:43
Slartlvh: have you  checked this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/162229/how-do-i-increase-the-open-files-limit-for-a-non-root-user21:44
sooraj1hi i have a situation where many of our servers going down without any indication in logs. It was observed that it happens for machines which were having a high uptime around >250days. a kernel bug ?21:44
sooraj12.6 is the version21:44
icerootsooraj1: such a big uptime will result in a lot of open bugs in the kernel, because no sec-updates were done/no reboot after the updates. so the kernel you are using is not supported anymore because you missed a lot of updates21:45
Jordan_Usooraj1: 1: There is nowhere near enough information yet to determine if it's a kernel bug. 2: "version 2.6" covers many years of kernel development.21:45
jebr224test21:46
awesomess3just burned xubuntu 13.10 to a 4GB usb with unetbootin (unetbootin.sourceforge.net). Unfortunately sometimes the sound doesn't work when I boot, and the 1GB filesystem doesn't load on my 2013 dell UEFI laptop, even when I turn off Secure Boot.21:47
awesomess3haven't tried Legacy Boot21:47
SaekoHi, is there a way to easily setup wordpress on a server. I tried install the web server and mysql but I cant get the ftp to work21:56
pvl1does libpng-dev install libpng15 ? hwo can i check what files a package installs21:58
Jordan_Usooraj1: What version of Ubuntu? When they "go down", do they just stop functioning properly or do they power down / reboot? If they don't power down, what is your definition of "go down"? Do you have physical access to these manchines?22:00
olalondeI'm downloading precompiled binaries from a website… which directory should i put it in? I know it doesn't really matter but I'd rather put it in a semi standard place22:06
seednode/bin or /sbin?22:06
olalonderight22:07
seednodeOr maybe /usr/bin22:07
seednodesince they aren't "essential" programs22:07
olalondeit's actually in a .tar.gz file… maybe i should just uncompress it from /tmp and move the binaries to /sbin afterwards22:07
olalondeok /usr/bin22:07
seednodeYeah, /usr/bin for non-essential programs meant to be run by non-privileged users22:08
haThey guys, i need help22:09
haTi really need a linux ubuntu professional here22:09
seednodeHow professional are we talking22:09
Pessimist!ask | haT22:09
ubottuhaT: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:09
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seednodeActually, how about you explain the issue22:09
seednodePessimist, hey now, I was getting to that22:10
haTprofessional as in being able to use logind.conf in the systemd22:10
seednodeOkay, so what are you trying to do22:11
haTseednode, first all of my laptop was unable to suspend or hibernate when i close the lid22:11
seednodeWhat laptop?22:11
haTi have a thinkpad22:11
nfisherHi all! i forgot how to specify default soundcard using pulseaudio. Can anybody help please?22:11
seednodeAh22:11
seednodeWhat model22:11
haTx20122:11
seednodeI have an idea, if suspend/hibernate aren't workoing22:11
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seednodeAh, yes22:11
seednodeI think I know fix22:11
seednodeGo to BIOS, security settings22:12
sadudeIs there any public statiscts for ubuntu's usage?22:12
haTok22:12
seednodeAnd disable "Intel trusted execution technology"22:12
seednode5:1 it'll fix it22:12
seednodeTXT in the x201[its]22:12
seednodeBreaks suspend22:12
seednodeSo disable that and try again22:12
haT0_o22:12
haTinteresting22:12
haTi will try that later22:12
seednodePlease let me know if it works22:13
haTi recall that when i first installed xubuntu22:13
seednodeBecause I might file a bug report if it happened for you too22:13
haTthere wasn't any problem22:13
OerHekssadude, hard to find, downloads are no real stats22:13
seednodeWell, did hibernate or suspend work?22:13
haTit used to22:13
haTtill i did some update22:14
seednodeWas it a kernel update?22:14
seednodeI'm starting to think something changed in kernel regarding TXT22:14
haThow can i check that ?22:14
seednodeBut either way, please try that fix22:14
haTok22:14
haTi will go a try to fix it now22:14
haTthanks22:14
haTbe back soon22:14
robert_hello22:18
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seednodeHi22:18
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cx640121322:22
awesomess3why can't firefox be as fast as links2?22:23
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seednodeBecause javascript22:23
awesomess3but when firefox first starts up, there is no javascript (AFAIK) executed, yet it takes like 15 seconds.22:24
seednodeIt has to load rendering engines and all22:24
seednodeAnd plugins, if you have those22:24
seednodeNot to mention it probably has far more libraries and such it has to load, and a much larger binary22:24
seednodeChromium starts in just under a second for me, though22:24
seednodeSo who knows22:25
xanguachromium is always executing I believe22:26
seednodeI kill -n 9'd chromium beforehand, to check22:26
seednodeDidn't see a chromium process22:26
xanguathat's why I uninstalled google chrome at least, always running in the background22:26
seednodeUnless it's under another namew22:26
seednodename*22:26
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ArafangionI don't see the point of chromium.22:29
ArafangionEither use chrome, firefox, or konq.22:30
seednodeWhy?22:30
ArafangionEven then, I'd only use chrome because of it's vast number of plugins it's got by default, even if I'd really prefer not to have to rely on them.. (shockwave)22:30
seednodeSo why is chromium worse?22:30
seednodeIs what I'm asking22:30
ArafangionIt doesn't have those plugins.22:30
ArafangionSpecifically flash.22:31
seednodeIt has flash and a pdf reader22:31
KonataChromium is not meant for the hipster generation22:31
ArafangionLatest version of Pepper Flash?22:31
seednodeArafangion, let me check version22:31
seednode12.0.0.70-122:31
ArafangionMaybe I'd recommend it moer if it actually loaded each tab in a separate proces.22:31
seednodeNot sure what latest in Chrome is22:31
Arafangionseednode: Hmm, that's fairly recent.22:31
julioso so22:31
juliohi any can help me22:32
ArafangionI'd best get to work.22:32
seednodeum, Arafangion22:32
seednodeFairly certain it does load each tab into separate process22:32
seednodeAs it opens a new process every time I open a new tab22:32
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DrFootest22:50
seednodeHi22:52
RearAdmiralWolfyhow would i install just mate-terminal instead of the whole mate desktop environment22:52
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basketballThe following packages have been kept back:22:55
basketball  usb-modeswitch-data22:55
basketball0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.22:55
r4st45hi i heard they offer free shell accounts22:55
kostkonr4st45, nice try22:56
r4st45nice try abt wht?22:57
seednodeWell, haT didn't return22:57
seednodeSo... that's awkward22:57
r4st45pardon me but i didnt understan what you are on about22:58
r4st45who wants pillz for free22:59
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BeldarRearAdmiralWolfy, I do not see it in the saucy repo which has the mate desktop, what release and OS are you running?23:00
RearAdmiralWolfyubuntu 14.04 lts23:01
Beldar14.04 | RearAdmiralWolfy23:02
RearAdmiralWolfyyes that's right23:02
BeldarRearAdmiralWolfy, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel23:02
Beldarbot is slow23:02
somsipBeldar: missing ! before 14.0423:03
seednodeBeldar, that command isn't just 14.0423:03
RearAdmiralWolfyit's ok i joined there23:03
seednodeYou need !23:03
seednodeOr bot will be very slow indeed ;)23:03
Beldarsomsip, seednode cool, mate is in 14.04, my assumption was in issue within it.23:03
ljsoftnethow do i put * on /dev/sda1 using gparted?23:06
basketballBeldar,  you know23:06
usr13ljsoftnet: What?23:07
cyberphoenixThis is my first time on an irc can someone respond to me so I know that it worked?23:07
awesomess3cyberphoenix, error 32498223:08
ljsoftnetusr13 if i fdisk -l i dont see * on /dev/sda123:08
ljsoftnetusr13 i only have 1 partition with fdisk -l23:08
usr13ljsoftnet: So why does it need to?23:08
ljsoftnetusr13 wanted to use extlinux23:08
usr13ljsoftnet: So you are wanting the boot flag on sda1?  Is that it?23:09
ljsoftnetusr13 yeah23:10
ljsoftnetusr13 if its flag as boot, it has * already23:10
ljsoftnet?23:11
ljsoftnetusr13 dude u got anything for me?23:14
isashaSo my space key doesn't work...23:14
isashaI have to paste each space now,when I push space the cursor just blinks23:15
isashaOn ubuntu 13.1023:15
ljsoftnetusr13 how do i flag /dev/sda1 as Boot23:15
haThello23:16
haTseednode23:16
usr13ljsoftnet: For what reason?23:16
seednodehaT, did it fix it?23:16
usr13ljsoftnet: For a linux install?23:16
ljsoftnetusr13 bootloader23:16
haTunfortunately what you mentioned was no where to be found in the bios23:16
usr13ljsoftnet: What exactly are you trying to do?  What are you trying to fix?  (What is the problem you are tying to solve.)23:16
seednodehaT, what sections did you check?23:17
usr13ljsoftnet: What boot loader?  grub?23:17
seednodeI mean, I haven't used an x201 non-tablet for years, but23:17
haTi checked every section23:17
oxsynI just ran sudo apt-get upgrade on a 14.04 live USB installation and it now boots to a busybox shell with an error message (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. Any ideas how I can repair this?23:17
oxsyn** dist-upgrade23:17
seednodehaT, let me check exactly where it is on mine23:17
seednodeBrb, rebootin23:17
ljsoftnetusr13 just need to put * on Boot23:17
haTwait23:17
seednodek23:18
ljsoftnetusr13 when i fdisk -l23:18
haTshouldn't be modifying something in the logind.info file23:18
haT?23:18
awesomess3oxsyn, maybe try #ubuntu+1 (14.04 channel) if this place doesn't pan out.23:18
usr13ljsoftnet: I think you are barking up the wrong tree (is what I'm trying to say).23:18
seednodeThis is in the BIOS settings23:18
seednodeOn boot23:18
oxsynawesomess3: kk, thanks23:18
haTwhen i first installed xubuntu everything worked including the suspend23:19
seednodeYeah, but23:19
seednodeIf you updated, and it upgraded kernelk23:19
seednodekernel23:19
seednodeThat could have been related23:19
haT0_o23:19
seednodeHere, run "uname -a"23:19
seednodeAnd tell me the number it says23:19
seednodeShould be 3.xx.xx23:19
haTyes, 3.11.023:20
seednodeHm23:20
usr13ljsoftnet: Again:  What problem are you tryin to solve?  What is not happening that *should* happen>?23:20
seednodeWell, just to humour me, can you try changing the BIOS settings23:20
seednodeOr did you not see Security options anywhere in BIOS23:20
haTnope23:21
haTno security options23:21
seednodeAlright, gonna reboot and confirm on mine quick23:21
seednodeBack in ~1m23:21
haTonly security option was password for HD, and computrace23:22
haTok23:22
nobitanobiHi guys. I am launching a script as 'apache' user, and within that script I am doing an ssh connection. Since the .ssh folder is owned by another user, when it tries to write in known_hosts, it hangs. What should I do in this situation? Do I need to make .ssh readable by all, and known_hosts writible by all?23:22
usr13ljsoftnet: Choose: Partition -> Manage Flags. The application opens a Manage flags on /path-to-partition dialog. To enable a flag, select the check box beside the flag. The application writes the enabled flag to the partition and refreshes the Manage flags on /path-to-partition dialog.23:22
usr13ljsoftnet: Not sure what this has to do with Ubuntu, and not sure what you will accomplish, trying to find out but you insist on not saying....23:23
seednodehaT, on mine, there was a Security->Security Chip option23:24
seednodeBut now, I'll have to confirm23:24
seednodeThey should both have TPM1.223:24
haThmm23:24
haTare you using a thinkpad ?23:24
seednodeYeah23:25
seednodeThis is a Thinkpad x201t23:25
haTok23:25
seednodeThe tablet version of x20123:25
seednodeBut I think x201 normal should have same chip23:25
haTsecurity chip option23:25
haTlemme check23:25
ljsoftnetusr13 how do i quit fdisk when (m for help)?23:25
haTbrb23:25
r4st45fight four23:25
usr13ljsoftnet: q23:25
usr13ljsoftnet: Was your question about fdisk or gparted?23:26
Guye_Alvarezone think.23:27
usr13ljsoftnet: To toggle boot flag on a partition in fdisk    a23:27
usr13ljsoftnet: And then tell it which one...23:27
ljsoftnetusr13 fdisk23:28
Guye_Alvarezwhen i run firefox and new tab, my sistem bloqued23:28
rannongaexit23:29
k0feei'm trying to use the old releases repo and i can't get the public key to work23:29
ljsoftnetusr13 fdisk doesnt have quit and save23:30
usr13ljsoftnet: w q23:30
usr13ljsoftnet: w=write q=quit23:30
usr13ljsoftnet: m=help23:31
haTseednode23:32
seednodeStill no luck?23:32
ilhamiHey23:32
ilhamiguys23:32
ilhamiI have no sound23:33
haTi had the security chip23:33
ilhamiGstreamer failed to detect any devices23:33
seednodehaT, did you try disabling?23:33
haTbut not the MP something something option23:33
usr13!sound | ilhami23:33
ubottuilhami: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.23:33
ilhamiusr13 I am using xfce.23:33
ilhamithere is none23:33
ilhamiother than ALSA23:33
ilhamiwhich doesnt work23:33
haTi also had the clear security chip23:33
seednodehaT, no, not MP something something23:33
seednodeShould just have option to enable or disable23:33
usr13ilhami: If alsa doesn't work, that is your problem?23:34
haT0_o23:34
ilhamiyeah why doesn't it work?23:34
seednodehaT, was there an option to disable?23:34
ilhamiIt's a VM btw23:34
haTfor the clear security chip yes23:34
usr13Ok, I gotta go.  Catch you all later.23:34
seednodehaT, wait23:34
ilhamiNo23:34
ilhamiwhere are you going ?23:34
ilhamihaha23:35
ice9how to enable minimize on click in ubuntu 13.1023:35
seednodeYou could clear security chip, or could disable security chip?23:35
mojtabaHi, I make an external hard drive with my laptop's hard drive and now I want to format it, and it gives me error formatting. (It was fully encrypted when it was in my laptop.) Do you know what should I do?23:35
haTclear23:35
seednodeAnd no other option, to disable or such?23:35
haTi didn't touch that23:35
seednodeUnder any subtree?23:35
haTi could only disable the intel txt feature23:35
haTwhich i did23:35
seednodeOkay, so you disabled TXT23:36
seednodeHave you tried suspending again23:36
haTwait23:36
nailsonmojtaba, i had a similar issue these days23:36
haTnope didn't suspend23:36
haTi can only suspend when i click to suspend23:36
haTbut wont suspend on lid close23:36
nailsonmojtaba, it must be unmounted, and you need to destroy LVM first23:37
haT[Login]23:37
haT#NAutoVTs=623:37
haT#ReserveVT=623:37
haT#KillUserProcesses=no23:37
haT#KillOnlyUsers=23:37
haT#KillExcludeUsers=root23:37
Jonnyw2kWHY23:38
k0feei am trying to add the old releases using this configuration: http://pastebin.com/bQCDKfXT23:38
Jonnyw2kwhy does it do that23:38
nailsonmojtaba, have you tried it?23:38
haTok23:38
k0feegetting the "no public key error"23:38
haTi was muted for a 1 minute23:39
seednodehaT, which file is that?23:39
seednodeLet me compare to mine23:39
k0feethank you for any suggestions23:39
haTgo to etc/systemd23:39
seednodeWhich file though23:39
seednodelogind.conf?23:39
haTyes23:40
seednodeAlright, and you have HandleLidSwitch=suspend uncommented?23:40
haTyes23:40
seednodeThough, actually, my machine suspends on lid closed even with that commented23:40
seednodeSo I'm guessing another config is breaking it, then23:40
haThmm23:40
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seednodeIt's not an acpi config on mine...23:42
seednodeLemme check what else might change it23:42
haTok23:42
haTdamn i love thinkpads23:44
haTi think i should get me another one23:44
seednodeI have some recommendations, if you do plan on that23:45
seednodeAlso, some people dislike cursing in family channels, even that one23:45
seednodeJust a warning23:45
haTwhen i close lid on screen turns off23:46
haTbut i still hear the fan and HD working23:47
seednodeAnd no crescent moon light?23:47
seednodeHm23:47
seednodeWhat suspend function are you using23:47
haTnope23:47
seednodesystemctl suspend, or pm-suspend?23:47
haTwhat is the difference ?23:48
seednodeWell, I think they have different ways of initiating the suspend23:48
seednodeBut mainly just so I can know if you'd be using same configs as mine23:48
seednodeAnd you say it's working fine when you suspend normally, just not on screen close?23:50
bunjeewhat command do I use to get all the functions of my HP Photosmart 7250 all-in-one printer to work?23:54
haTyes23:55
bunjeeanyone?23:55
haTwhen i close lid, the only thing that turns off is the screen23:56
averageis it ok to reinstall dpkg ?23:56
mojtabanailson: how should I do that?23:58
mojtabaHi, I make an external hard drive with my laptop's hard drive and now I want to format it, and it gives me error formatting. (It was fully encrypted when it was in my laptop.) Do you know what should I do?23:58
joshua33Hello, how do I keep Compiz effects on by default?23:59

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