| Donald_ET3 | Are there any differences between Ubuntu and Fedora besides the desktop and package manager? | 00:15 |
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| roney | the first to come to my mind is font rendering | 00:16 |
| roney | you may need to perform some extra work to have better anti aliasing on Fedora | 00:16 |
| Donald_ET3 | Picking a distro is so difficult. | 00:16 |
| roney | It depends a lot on your style of use. But I decided to use Kubuntu for it spare me from lots of annoying extra work. | 00:17 |
| Donald_ET3 | Was it just the first GNU/Linux system you tried and had no reason to switch? | 00:18 |
| roney | Nope. I tried ArchLinux, Fedora (for a few days only), OpenSUSE, Mandriva, Ubuntu etc. | 00:21 |
| Donald_ET3 | Okay. | 00:22 |
| roney | At first I liked to tweak the system. But with time I got tired of it and began to appreciate systems wich would let me do my work without interference. | 00:23 |
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| bernz0 | I have a question about connecting to a CardDav for Kontact | 01:11 |
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| Radagast | Hi! | 02:11 |
| Radagast | Hola! | 02:11 |
| roney | Hi! | 02:12 |
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| unfiltered | Using rhythmbox and daap share is it not sharing between local users? | 04:39 |
| alphacrypt | hey Ive got a virtual desktop pager and by moving the cursor to the upper right I still get all open windows shown can I reduce them specific to active desktop? | 04:41 |
| alphacrypt | left sorry | 04:41 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:20 |
| alphacrypt | hey lordievader | 06:29 |
| lordievader | Hey alphacrypt, how are you? | 06:30 |
| bbbba | hey do you contain drm? | 06:30 |
| alphacrypt | its ok thanks and you | 06:30 |
| lordievader | Doing good, doing good :) | 06:30 |
| bbbba | im going to quit using computers if someone doesnt tell me | 06:31 |
| bbbba | and focus my attention elsewhere | 06:31 |
| lordievader | bbbba: I'm not sure what you are tyring to ask. | 06:31 |
| bbbba | do you scan? | 06:31 |
| bbbba | my videocard, or any big pixelled stuff i watch/ | 06:32 |
| bbbba | how do i tear a palliduim chip out of my computer? | 06:32 |
| bbbba | ok question about windows, why cant i open a folder and it load the files listed in less, than 1 minute if it contains 3000 files or something, compared, w7 to xp? | 06:33 |
| lordievader | bbbba: That question is more suited to #windows (or was it ##windows?). | 06:34 |
| bbbba | bill gates is in there | 06:34 |
| bbbba | hes going to try to vaccinate me or shoot me or something one | 06:34 |
| bbbba | but about yoru os, does it contain drm? | 06:35 |
| bbbba | contain as in pertain to it? | 06:35 |
| bbbba | does it pertain to it? | 06:35 |
| bbbba | suit it? | 06:36 |
| bbbba | contain code for it | 06:36 |
| bbbba | hey guys i got my answer over there <Stryyker> no idea | 06:39 |
| bbbba | thanks a lot | 06:39 |
| bbbba | no help | 06:39 |
| bbbba | hey guys check it out now | 07:04 |
| bbbba | Ether_Man> Stryyker, dont think this has gone on long enough yet or? :) | 07:04 |
| bbbba | still asking and repeating hte same question to these guys | 07:05 |
| bbbba | <Stryyker> bbbba: please read the channel guidelines. We're all volunteers here - we don't work for Microsoft. | 07:07 |
| bbbba | <Stryyker> http://www.freenode-windows.org/channel-guidelines < more fun | 07:07 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> then explain the zip file, | 07:10 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> a bug? | 07:10 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> ive reinstalled, 3 times | 07:10 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> with different kinds | 07:10 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> a differnt dvd | 07:10 |
| bbbba | <Overlordz> nobody here is being paid to help you, you can drop the attitude please | 07:10 |
| klew | maybe a bit of a stupid question, but why does kubuntu updater whish to update my kernel from 3.14 to 3.11? :/ | 07:25 |
| bbbba | simple known problem and a usual how its a piece of shit in windows channel elad to morons talking for 20 minutes about nothing | 07:29 |
| bbbba | more funness <bbbba> explain when it happens on xp | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> its not an xp issue | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> it doesnt happen | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> and u guys already threatened to .. end all this | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> ? | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> cricket | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <bbbba> i get it | 07:33 |
| bbbba | <Stryyker> You don't make much sense. | 07:33 |
| lordievader | klew: To my knowledge 3.14 hasn't been released yet. Are you sure you had 3.14? | 07:33 |
| klew | lordievader: quite sure, since I installed it myself from nightlies :) | 07:34 |
| klew | klew@klewtop:~$ uname -r | 07:34 |
| klew | 3.14.0-031400rc4-generic | 07:34 |
| lordievader | klew: Ah, as I see. Perhaps the nighlies repo has a lower priority. Not sure if that will downgrade a kernel though. | 07:35 |
| bbbba | can any one explain to me why w7 windows is such a piece oF SHITT | 07:36 |
| bbbba | cause look at that shit they dont know | 07:37 |
| bbbba | holy crap figured it out they had groupss... | 07:44 |
| bbbba | they helped me | 07:44 |
| Alarm | good morning. i have just installed kde-plasma-desktop on my ubuntu box . during the installation an option appeared to select KDM or something else. my question is if i can run the apt-get install command to include also this selection of the installation | 08:00 |
| Alarm | i am trying to create a script that installs and starts kde without user interaction. so i would like to know if it is possible to put this selection also in the installation command | 08:00 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:38 |
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| Alarm | hello. i am creating a virtual machine and want the kde installation (on ubuntu) to be automatic. which means, i do install the packages, but there is a point where the system waits for user input , to choose kdm | 12:30 |
| Alarm | is there a way to do the apt-get install command with some sort of parameters to select also KDM without awaiting user interaction ? | 12:30 |
| lordievader | Alarm: Why not simply do a Kubuntu install? | 12:33 |
| Alarm | cause its a vagrant box. and it comes plain without any desktop manager | 12:36 |
| Alarm | so i need to do an automated installation of kde on a ubuntu 13.10 system | 12:36 |
| Alarm | the packages are being downloaded and installed. the problem is on the step with the KDM selection which i can't manage to make it automate it or ignore this step and configure it with a shell command | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | Alarm, why KDM , lightdm is default for ubuntu and kubuntu | 12:38 |
| BluesKaj | use the existing DM | 12:38 |
| Alarm | BluesKaj: if i install the package kde-plasma-desktop | 12:41 |
| Alarm | then i get the dialog in console to choose KDM | 12:41 |
| Alarm | is there any other package installation that i can avoid this step ? | 12:41 |
| lordievader | Alarm: Install the kubuntu-desktop package. | 12:42 |
| Alarm | lordievader: ok i can give this a try to see if a i am been asked for kdm again | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | Alarm, yes follow lordievader's advice, kubuntu-desktop is all you need | 12:45 |
| Alarm | alright. thank you will give it a try | 12:47 |
| lordievader | Alarm: That should pull in lightdm, not kdm. | 12:48 |
| ikonia | I was about to ask if kdm was still being used | 12:55 |
| lordievader | That was what my Gentoo box installed, when I installed KDE. | 12:56 |
| jussi | kdm still exists, but we use light dm as default, like BluesKaj mentioned | 12:56 |
| ikonia | I thought kubuntu had also moved to lightdm by default too | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | ikonia, it has | 12:57 |
| ikonia | ok good, thought I'd got it wrong | 12:57 |
| excognac | hi all, how ddo i create a .html file in the easiest manner | 13:18 |
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| Alarm | lordievader , BluesKaj not good news. with the sudo apt-get -y install kubuntu-desktop command | 13:54 |
| Alarm | i got many messages like: dpkg: error processing python-kde4 (--configure): | 13:54 |
| Alarm | and finally: Processing was halted because there were too many errors. | 13:54 |
| Alarm | furthermore , this is a development environment . so i do not need koffice, ktorrent and all those things kubuntu-desktop offers , thats why i wanted to go lightweight with the installation | 13:55 |
| excognac | guys wich is the easiest to use html editer for kubuntu? | 14:15 |
| excognac | and the most stable one as blufish crashed like windows | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | Alarm, don't use the -y with installing desktops and metas, not good practice | 14:16 |
| Alarm | BluesKaj: as i said , i need to do the installation automaticaly , without any user interaction | 14:20 |
| Alarm | so -y is something i must use so that the automated tool will continue with the installation | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | i think the -y in the command permits unneeded packages to be installed that can conflict with defaults, but feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, Alarm | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | like saying yes to all | 14:24 |
| Alarm | BluesKaj: i really don't know. thats why i am here :) | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | Alarm, then try the command without the -y | 14:28 |
| BluesKaj | anyway, errands to run ...BBL | 14:31 |
| DaveInFL | Can someone help me with the KDE Parition Manager? I've just connected another hard drive and I can set the disc label but not the mount point and thus, cannot mount any of the partitions :( | 14:37 |
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| BluesKaj | DaveInFL, unmount the partitions first | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | then check if they show up in dolphin/devices | 15:10 |
| DaveInFL | BluesKaj...it's not mounted currently | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | have you rebooted since connecting the HDD? | 15:11 |
| DaveInFL | Yes...the machine was off when I connected it. I'm certainly not going to connect a HDD when the machine is running :) | 15:12 |
| DaveInFL | When I right click on the partition the mount item is greyed out | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | no that's not what i meant, run a b | 15:12 |
| DaveInFL | Run what? | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj | a sudo blkid , then set them up in /etc/fstab | 15:13 |
| DaveInFL | So, I have to manually add these new mount points to /etc/fstab? Under Magiea I never had to do that :( | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | like so , http://pastebin.com/SbPwHScd | 15:17 |
| BluesKaj | is there an OS on this hdd or is it just for data? | 15:19 |
| DaveInFL | There is no OS on the HDD, just three partitions all ext4. | 15:21 |
| DaveInFL | I am just confused as to why I cannot mount them! Perhaps with Kubuntu it's more manual process and they have to be in /etc/fstab before they can be mounted. Under Magiea it would do that work for you via the GUI partition tool. | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | why 3 partitions | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | hmm wait a sec, let me check something, I also have 2 external drives, one for data and another with W7 , but they nolonger show up either , but they're listed in dolphin under devices | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | and accessible | 15:24 |
| DaveInFL | Why three partitions? It's a HDD that I had used under Mageia and didn't have it connected when I installed Kubuntu..wanted to be extra safe that it didn't get formatted/wiped when I did the install :) Just being extra cautious. So, the three partitions existed from another Linux distro and all have data on. | 15:26 |
| DaveInFL | I also see them under Dolphin and I can see the files! | 15:27 |
| DaveInFL | Seems that the three partitions are mounted under the media directory...this is kind of frustrating to be honest. Can't seem to change the mount point! | 15:30 |
| DaveInFL | Not sure if that is something that Dolphin did! But under KDE partition I cannot change the mount point. Do I need to run KDE partition as root? If so what's the command for that? | 15:32 |
| Alarm | BluesKaj: if i remove the -y then it wont be installed automaticaly. i use Vagrand to run a box and do the entire installation automaticaly | 15:35 |
| Alarm | which means there should not be any user input. so if the installation of kubuntu asks "(y) for yes to install all the packages" | 15:35 |
| Alarm | there wont be anyone there to hit the button | 15:35 |
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| BluesKaj | DaveInFL, dolphin should show the devices in the left hand pane like so, http://imagebin.org/300561 , you may have to use ctrl - to reduce the size of the image since it's taken from my desktop which is connected to a big screen tv | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | DaveInFL, highlight the partition in dolphin then in file properties set the advanced permissions to read/write rw | 15:51 |
| BluesKaj | Alarm, make sure you have all updates and upgrades up to date on your OS before installing kubuntu-desktop, sry I should have mentioned that earlier | 15:55 |
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| Alarm | once i install the kubuntu packages | 16:09 |
| Alarm | is there a way to start the window manager and log in to kde without rebooting ? | 16:09 |
| Alarm | ok i installed KDE on ubuntu . | 16:09 |
| Alarm | normaly there should be something like 'startx' , or /etc/init.d/kdm start | 16:10 |
| Alarm | none of them work though | 16:10 |
| Alarm | my mistake , startx worked | 16:10 |
| Alarm | had to use sudo :/ | 16:11 |
| Alarm | but what if i want to startx as a simple user | 16:11 |
| Alarm | i cant ? | 16:11 |
| DarthFrog | Alarm: The system didn't boot to a graphical login screen? | 16:12 |
| Alarm | DarthFrog: after installing kde on kubuntu , i do not want to restart the machine | 16:12 |
| DarthFrog | Alarm: Try "sudo service lightdm start". | 16:12 |
| Alarm | i want directly to start the KDE | 16:13 |
| Alarm | but what if i want to start it as a simple user ? not as a root ? | 16:13 |
| DarthFrog | Then startx should work. | 16:13 |
| Alarm | i want to login on KDE as a simple user as i would if i would restart my system and put my credentials in the login screen | 16:13 |
| DarthFrog | That's what lightdm does. | 16:13 |
| DarthFrog | Try it. | 16:14 |
| Alarm | ok, have to rerun the entire installation process of install and let you know in a few minutes | 16:14 |
| DarthFrog | ???? | 16:14 |
| Alarm | DarthFrog: i am using vagrant. automated configuration. so i have to go through the process from the start | 16:15 |
| DarthFrog | Never heard of it. | 16:16 |
| Alarm | great tool | 16:17 |
| Alarm | DarthFrog: | 16:19 |
| Alarm | so first sudo service lightdm start | 16:19 |
| Alarm | and then as a simple user startx | 16:19 |
| Alarm | ? | 16:19 |
| maxiaojun | KDevelop's "New Project" doesn't work after using backport ppa on 13.10 | 16:51 |
| maxiaojun | No "New from Template" in Project menu | 16:52 |
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| kyfella | Hey ya'll. I had to backup a bunch of data and compressed it into a filename.tar.xz. Rebuilt my Linux box to 13.10. I am having some problems getting the tar.xz extracted. Ark can't handle it because its too big. I am trying unxz and get unxz: 20140318-backup1.tar.xz: File format not recognized. | 17:48 |
| kyfella | 17:48 | |
| kyfella | Can anyone throw me a bone in how to get this data out of that xz file. I figured out how to compress it, but darned if I can get it uncompressed lol | 17:49 |
| lordievader | kyfella: What command did you use to make it? Also what does 'file <filename>.tar.xz' say about it? | 17:49 |
| kyfella | what do you mean lordie? Sorry, from where I was having problems yesterday with the double/triple clicking issue, I backed it all up and scrapped the OS, rebuilt 13.04, then upgraded distro to 13.10 | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | kyfella, use unp, it uncompresses most compressed file afaik | 17:51 |
| wxl | or unar kyfella | 17:51 |
| lordievader | kyfella: You compressed it with something, with what command did you compress? | 17:51 |
| kyfella | i am looking to see, 1 sec | 17:51 |
| wxl | kyfella: look in your bash history | 17:51 |
| kyfella | can't, OS was scrapped | 17:52 |
| kyfella | I rebuilt it after the compression | 17:52 |
| wxl | aw, boo | 17:52 |
| kyfella | tar cfJ <archive.tar.xz> <files> thinking it was this way lordie | 17:53 |
| kyfella | let me look at unp Blue | 17:57 |
| kyfella | Failed to detect file type of 20140318-backup1.tar.xz. | 17:59 |
| kyfella | thats for unp | 17:59 |
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| kyfella | trying unar | 18:01 |
| kyfella | do you mean unrar or unar | 18:01 |
| wxl | kyfella: unar | 18:02 |
| wxl | !search unar | 18:02 |
| ubottu | Found: thunar | 18:02 |
| wxl | gr | 18:02 |
| BluesKaj | kyfella, try tar -xJf file.pkg.tar.xz | 18:02 |
| wxl | !info unar | 18:02 |
| ubottu | unar (source: unar): Unarchiver for a variety of file formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-1 (saucy), package size 1044 kB, installed size 4170 kB | 18:02 |
| wxl | there that one | 18:02 |
| kyfella | lol, ok. Let me try thatone | 18:03 |
| kyfella | 1 sec | 18:03 |
| kyfella | any idea what command switches I need to use, if any | 18:04 |
| kyfella | im looking at man unar | 18:04 |
| wxl | kyfella: shouldn't need any | 18:04 |
| kyfella | ok, let me take a whack at that | 18:04 |
| kyfella | hot diggy dog... I think that worked. It looks like it anyhow | 18:06 |
| lordievader | kyfella: BluesKaj's tar -xJf should work. | 18:06 |
| kyfella | I tried that one lordie. it gave me probs | 18:07 |
| lordievader | What errors? | 18:07 |
| kyfella | tar -Jxf 20140318-backup2.tar.xz | 18:07 |
| kyfella | xz: (stdin): File format not recognized | 18:07 |
| kyfella | tar: Child returned status 1 | 18:07 |
| kyfella | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 18:07 |
| kyfella | sorry | 18:08 |
| kyfella | didn't mean to spam that screen | 18:08 |
| lordievader | kyfella: Than you didn't make it with the -J flag, -j perhaps? Anyhow I'm still waiting for the output of 'file <filename>'. | 18:09 |
| BluesKaj | guess you won't use tar xz anymore | 18:09 |
| kyfella | well, actually I like it. it gives you the maximum of compression | 18:09 |
| kyfella | I figured it out a long time ago, but hadn't used it in a long long time | 18:10 |
| BluesKaj | kyfella, why compress so hard if it's so difficult to extract? no need for that kind of compression any more | 18:11 |
| kyfella | Limitation on drive space | 18:11 |
| kyfella | only reason | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | really now ... | 18:12 |
| kyfella | Lordie, even after teh rebuild of my 13.10 Kubuntu I am still having the double triple clicking problem. Does anyone know of a bug surronding optical mice in 13.10? | 18:12 |
| lordievader | kyfella: Could you please give me the output of the file command? | 18:12 |
| kyfella | the output of which file command? This one? tar -Jxf 20140318-backup2.tar.xz | 18:13 |
| lordievader | kyfella: file <filename> | 18:13 |
| kyfella | $ file 20140318-backup1.tar = 20140318-backup1.tar: directory | 18:14 |
| kyfella | wait | 18:14 |
| kyfella | $ file 20140318-backup1.tar.xz = 20140318-backup1.tar.xz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Tue Mar 18 23:34:01 2014 | 18:15 |
| lordievader | kyfella: Right so you didn't use the -J flag: tar -zxv <file> | 18:16 |
| lordievader | kyfella: Right so you didn't use the -J flag: tar -zxvf <file> | 18:16 |
| kyfella | I tried that too, same result | 18:16 |
| kyfella | right now the unar is uncompressign the xz to tar | 18:16 |
| lordievader | Hmm perhaps renaming it to .tar.gz first helps. | 18:17 |
| wxl | kyfella: so unar it again | 18:17 |
| kyfella | hmm | 18:23 |
| kyfella | it unar it to a directory named 20140318-backup1.tar but there is nothing in it | 18:24 |
| kyfella | Extraction to directory "20140318-backup1.tar" failed (9 files failed.) | 18:24 |
| kyfella | does the unar extract files directly into your home drive path? | 18:32 |
| lordievader | kyfella: I suppose is pwd, but do read the man page. | 18:33 |
| kyfella | -o specifys output directory, default is pwd. But I didn't specify the output directory and it seems it ended up in /home/mustang | 18:34 |
| kyfella | ok hmm, well lol. I think I am going to try another one of my xz archives and see what happens there lol | 18:45 |
| kyfella | unar is a little bit buggy | 18:52 |
| kyfella | i specified my output directory as my home directory and it puts it in media | 18:53 |
| kyfella | lol | 18:53 |
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| kyfella | whoops, I specified /media as output. I coulda sworn I typed /home | 19:01 |
| melkor | is the baloo file extractor nescessary? | 19:03 |
| melkor | Something is killing my system after the most recent update (14.04) the only thing that really stands out is the baloo_file_extractor is running. | 19:05 |
| ktonio | ? | 19:08 |
| melkor | It would just pause for about 2 or 3 seconds, and I couldn't input anything. | 19:09 |
| melkor | Well the extractor stopped and no I can use everything ok. Could be a coincidence. | 19:15 |
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| rednaks | Hello, I'm looking for muon code source can any one help me ? | 20:13 |
| rednaks | Is there any official public git repository ? | 20:14 |
| lordievader | rednaks: apt-get source muon? | 20:22 |
| rednaks | lordievader, I'm not under *ubuntu :/ I'm on debian actually | 20:23 |
| rednaks | and muon is not available for debian | 20:24 |
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| StarfighterPilot | rednaks: only sources here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Muon+Package+Management+Suite?content=137507 | 20:35 |
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| lordievader | rednaks: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/muon | 20:40 |
| BluesKaj | rednaks, a kubuntu repos package may not work with debian and vice-versa | 20:41 |
| BluesKaj | !debian | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! | 20:42 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: He's just asking for the Muon source not the entire repo ;) | 20:42 |
| BluesKaj | what;s wrong witht debian package manager? | 20:43 |
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| BluesKaj | whatever they use now | 20:44 |
| lordievader | Muon is developed by the Kubuntu team, and not in the Debian repo. | 20:44 |
| BluesKaj | uhm yes lordievader and ?? | 20:45 |
| rednaks | emm the launchpad sources seems different from the sources at kde-apps.org ... | 20:47 |
| lordievader | Why add a repo if all you need is one source package? | 20:47 |
| rednaks | actually I'll try to build it for debian | 20:47 |
| lordievader | Even more so when adding that repo might break everything. | 20:48 |
| BluesKaj | right, git source might work | 20:48 |
| rednaks | BleuzMan, any link to the git repo ? :) | 20:50 |
| rednaks | I perefer to keep the log history | 20:50 |
| rednaks | (but kde-apps.org is fine) | 20:51 |
| BluesKaj | rednaks, well if you found one that looks build-able then go ahead | 20:52 |
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