| LittleMac | Hello, anyone here? | 00:00 |
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| ianorlin | anyway I can help | 00:00 |
| LittleMac | Possibly, I've decided to try and install Lubuntu on an old laptop, HP dv1040us. | 00:00 |
| LittleMac | Its running a pentium M and 512mb RAM | 00:01 |
| LittleMac | I'm trying to figure out what the latest version of Lubuntu I could run | 00:01 |
| ianorlin | ah pentium M may have some trouble with the processor not saying it has pae when it does but see this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE#Lubuntu_13.10_Fake-PAE_described_by_sudodus | 00:05 |
| LittleMac | So if I'm reading this correctly, I wont need to fake-PAE because I have a Pentium M 1.6Ghz, and thats a newer model? | 00:08 |
| phillw | LittleMac: with 14.04 most of the 'M' series will not need fake pae. | 00:11 |
| phillw | this is a battle we have won. They (the Gods) have put in the check to allow these computers to install the 32 bit version with no issues. This has freed up a tiny bit of resources to work on the system for the machines that are totally non-pae :) | 00:13 |
| LittleMac | so should I just try 14.04 beta? | 00:14 |
| phillw | LittleMac: the changes will all be in the 32 bit lubuntu daily. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds grab which ever you prefer.. desktop or alternate. Just make sure you grab the 686 version :D | 00:16 |
| phillw | LittleMac: it shows as i386 | 00:17 |
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| danux | guys i have a weird issue , when i turned on my pc today , i have the /home/user folder as my desktop , and desktop folder under /home/user is missing , i have a folder called "Desktop" under places , i want to get the original LXDE window setup , how do get that done ? | 05:19 |
| ianorlin | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PCManFM | 05:22 |
| ianorlin | see the part under fixes | 05:22 |
| duoi | hi | 06:01 |
| duoi | how can i get a copy of lubuntu that will forever be live? that is, i dont want to see language selection or boot menus on grub or anything. | 06:02 |
| duoi | and when i boot i just want to go straight to the desktop. | 06:02 |
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| FuuqUmiist | anyone ever have any issues when upgrading to a newer version? | 08:15 |
| === Logan is now known as Guest72127 | ||
| Guest72127 | Bonjour :) | 10:41 |
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | ||
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | ||
| sydney_ | What will be new in lubuntu trusty? | 12:43 |
| leszek | sydney_: definitely a new kernel. A modified theme + wallpaper and upgraded applications :) | 12:51 |
| leszek | and lts of course so 3 years support | 12:51 |
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| FuuqUmiist | since the 13.10 release is basically the only version available and support for it ends in just a few months, please tell me that upgrading 13.10 to 14.04 won't cause any issues | 21:05 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: lol.. you should no no one can tell you taht | 21:05 |
| holstein | that* | 21:05 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: nothing specifically about lubuntu or ubuntu will be making any known issues for you.. but, your hardware can have specific issues that are challenging to address | 21:06 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: what i suggest is try the 14.04 version live on your hardware.. backup you data, and plan for failure. since your hard drive will fail, and that is not a waste of time.. then, you will be ready to upgrade or try a fresh instal of 14.04 | 21:06 |
| FuuqUmiist | but i need to install a distro for people on different computers now | 21:07 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: nothing here is preventing you from addressing your needs | 21:07 |
| FuuqUmiist | but 14.04 is releasing next month, and 13.10 only has a few months support | 21:08 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: ok | 21:08 |
| FuuqUmiist | i might be out of town so they will be using an unsecure 13.10 | 21:08 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: so, you can give them 14.04 and come back in a few weeks and upgrade.. give them 13.10, and come back and reinstall or upgrade them | 21:08 |
| FuuqUmiist | i'm going to try to upgrade over remote desktop to 14.04 | 21:09 |
| speckmade | "A handler is already registered for /com/ubuntu/Upstart" | 21:24 |
| melodie | hi | 21:25 |
| speckmade | that's what my computer is desperately trying to say to me through .xsession-errors | 21:25 |
| speckmade | about 8,000,000 times | 21:29 |
| holstein | speckmade: just let us know if you have a question | 21:30 |
| speckmade | yeah - I don't understand that language yet... :-) | 21:30 |
| speckmade | What's it trying to say to me? | 21:30 |
| speckmade | hd is full now... :-) | 21:30 |
| speckmade | init was veery busy. | 21:31 |
| speckmade | If anyone can give me clues to what's happening, that would help. :-) | 21:31 |
| holstein | speckmade: so, what im reading is, you are looking in a log file, and its filled, as in, it filled the hard drive with error messages? | 21:34 |
| speckmade | yeah | 21:35 |
| speckmade | and in the process of filling the harddrive my computer was quite busy | 21:35 |
| holstein | are you up to date with upgrades? running a version of lubuntu? | 21:35 |
| speckmade | init grabbed all CPU it can get | 21:35 |
| holstein | have you tried purging x session configs? or running as a different user? | 21:36 |
| speckmade | latest lubuntu here, automatic security updates | 21:36 |
| holstein | speckmade: check now, for upgrades | 21:36 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update $$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 21:36 |
| holstein | sorry | 21:36 |
| Unit193 | && | 21:36 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 21:36 |
| holstein | new keyboard :) | 21:36 |
| speckmade | hard to do atm... :-/ | 21:37 |
| holstein | speckmade: sure.. just let us konw when you have a quesiton, or are ready to troubleshoot | 21:38 |
| speckmade | thanks. | 21:38 |
| speckmade | just understanding what I could be looking at would be something... | 21:40 |
| holstein | erros with your xsession, as i read it | 21:40 |
| holstein | i would remove it from the equation by temporarily removeing the session configs, or testing with another user account.. after checking for and applying upgrades | 21:41 |
| speckmade | :-) | 21:41 |
| speckmade | upgrades available: liblightdm-gobject-1-0, lightdm, tzdata | 21:42 |
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| one | There is a dialoug box that say system program detected a problem do you want to report the problem now and then two buttons, cancel, and report. | 22:20 |
| one | What tools may one use to assosiate this window with a runnning process? | 22:21 |
| one | It looks like one of those trojans. | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | It's apport. | 22:24 |
| one | It looks like one of those fake error message trojans. | 22:24 |
| one | Using system monitor to look at the processes apport is not listed. | 22:27 |
| holstein | im not aware of any of those fake error message trojans for lubuntu/linux.. there is apport | 22:28 |
| holstein | you should be able to search around, and get a screenshot of it.. or take one of what you are looking at , one , and a volunteer can share if they think it is apport or a trojan | 22:28 |
| one | It is not apport | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | holstein: Even easier than that, google a couple of the words and you get all over with stuff like http://askubuntu.com/questions/43103/system-always-start-with-system-program-problem-detected-dialog | 22:30 |
| holstein | one: ok.. let us konw if you have a question about what it is.. | 22:32 |
| one | What is it? | 22:35 |
| one | apport doesn't show in the process list | 22:35 |
| wxl | one: it's probably a trojan gratefully provided to you by canonical. enjoy! | 22:36 |
| wxl | !apport | one | 22:36 |
| wxl | one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport | 22:37 |
| one | Someone put it there. | 22:39 |
| one | Canonical is just a calculator box isn't it? | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | one: ps xfU $USER pastebin that and show us. | 22:40 |
| wxl | totally | 22:40 |
| * wxl puts his tin foil hat and mumbles to himself | 22:40 | |
| Unit193 | +on | 22:40 |
| * wxl shrugs | 22:42 | |
| one | I am going to narrow down the process list first | 22:43 |
| one | well whatever it is it is not obvious | 23:08 |
| one | What help does sending the process list do? | 23:08 |
| one | Say it names itself gnome-calander-factory | 23:08 |
| holstein | one: i believe a volunteer was offering to look over your process list to help you find something that might be out of place, or malware | 23:09 |
| holstein | Unit193 has asked for it in a pastebin for that reason, i assume | 23:09 |
| holstein | the "good" would be having someone else look at it | 23:10 |
| one | gnome-calander-factory | 23:10 |
| wxl | so that's what it's called? | 23:10 |
| wxl | because that's your problem right there: why do you have gnome running? | 23:10 |
| one | not sure | 23:10 |
| wxl | then maybe you should try to offer the pastebin | 23:10 |
| one | the window pops up later | 23:10 |
| one | and the comparision has 4 more processes | 23:10 |
| one | there needs to be an ap that spys the api | 23:11 |
| one | like the asterisk revealer | 23:11 |
| holstein | what windows pops up later after what? | 23:11 |
| wxl | just watch your processes | 23:11 |
| one | it can pinpoint the process that the window is coming from | 23:11 |
| holstein | you would insatll that app *before* you are compromised, otherwise, you cant trust anything the system reports like that | 23:11 |
| wxl | it will be obvious | 23:11 |
| one | there needs to be something to reveal the process that generated the window by using mouover | 23:12 |
| one | mouseover | 23:12 |
| holstein | i use ps aux | 23:12 |
| holstein | any malware could likely sense, and compromise such software.. | 23:13 |
| one | well it is a lot of work without the proper tools | 23:13 |
| one | without the proper tools it cannot be found | 23:13 |
| holstein | what are you missing? | 23:13 |
| holstein | your pre-infection image? | 23:13 |
| one | something to point to the process with a mouseover | 23:14 |
| holstein | the proper tool can be a filemanager. or soemthing to diff what you had before the compromise | 23:14 |
| one | I have the ubuntu cd | 23:14 |
| holstein | one: that can be compromised, as well.. i use ps aux to identify processes.. is that not working for you? | 23:14 |
| holstein | one: the lubuntu iso burned on cd?? | 23:14 |
| one | it doesnt matter | 23:14 |
| one | your not listening | 23:15 |
| one | LISTEN | 23:15 |
| one | there needs to be something to reveal the process that generated the window by using mouseover | 23:15 |
| one | ps aux doesnt do that | 23:15 |
| one | youns need to learn how to LISTEN | 23:15 |
| holstein | one: i underestand what you are asking gor.. and *that* *sepcific* tool could be compromised as well | 23:15 |
| wxl | one: xwininfo -all | grep Process and click on the window | 23:16 |
| one | wxl: very well! | 23:17 |
| one | update-notifier | 23:17 |
| wxl | well there you go | 23:18 |
| holstein | nothing i have read makes me think you have any malware going on.. have you been running as root? | 23:18 |
| wxl | no trojan after all | 23:18 |
| wxl | !search update-notifier | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Found: | 23:18 |
| wxl | !info update-notifier | 23:18 |
| ubottu | update-notifier (source: update-notifier): Daemon which notifies about package updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.147.1 (saucy), package size 53 kB, installed size 267 kB | 23:18 |
| phillw | wxl: we had this FUD when ureadahead was launched... | 23:46 |
| wxl | phillw: well, at least it's not like your usual windows user. ;) | 23:47 |
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