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pitti | Good morning | 06:17 |
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seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:00 |
Mirv | seb128: good morning, you have silos for all your desktop landings | 09:02 |
seb128 | Mirv, hey, you are the best, thanks | 09:02 |
seb128 | Mirv, I promise I'm going to drive them through and free back the silos ;-) | 09:02 |
Mirv | great :) | 09:03 |
Laney | morning! | 09:07 |
seb128 | Laney, hey, how are you? | 09:08 |
Laney | seb128: thanks for pinging other people ;-) | 09:09 |
hikiko | hello :) | 09:09 |
seb128 | Laney, yw! | 09:09 |
Laney | I'm good, although we got back late yesterday from playing games so a bit tired | 09:09 |
Laney | "40-60 minutes" LIES | 09:09 |
seb128 | haha | 09:09 |
seb128 | that's the time if you play | 09:09 |
seb128 | not if you do a round in between 2 beers :p | 09:09 |
Laney | haha, there were no beers :P | 09:09 |
Laney | maybe if you don't think about your tactics at all or something | 09:10 |
Laney | Subject: [Build #5828630] armhf build of webkitgtk 2.3.92-1ubuntu1~ppa2 in ubuntu trusty RELEASE (canonical-arm-dev PPA) | 09:10 |
Laney | bah | 09:10 |
seb128 | :-( | 09:11 |
seb128 | that list discussion made me want to see what "diplomacy" is | 09:12 |
seb128 | mterry said to play if you don't mind losing some friends :p | 09:12 |
Laney | not played that one | 09:13 |
Laney | http://www.shutupandsitdown.com/blog/post/review-libertalia/ it was this | 09:14 |
seb128 | cool | 09:16 |
seb128 | Laney, darkxst: so, thinking about that gnome-desktop ffe ... what needs the new version? g-c-c/g-s-d/gnome-shell? | 09:16 |
seb128 | could we just package the new one as a different source in the archive (I guess it changed soname since it had abi changes) and just make those 3 use the new lib? | 09:17 |
seb128 | I don't think we have any of those 3 that would end up with the 2 versions in process, but we should check to make sure | 09:18 |
seb128 | so other desktop would end up only having the current one | 09:18 |
seb128 | GNOME would have both versions installed but that should be minimal issues | 09:18 |
Laney | Not sure, would need darkxst to clarify | 09:22 |
Laney | if anything could end up loading both in the same process you'd have problems I guess | 09:22 |
seb128 | Laney, libgnome-desktop-3-7 rdepends don't include any lib | 09:27 |
seb128 | so we should be safe | 09:27 |
seb128 | well anyway, it's just a suggestion as a possible solution for the GNOME remix | 09:28 |
Laney | I thought I saw mutter and/or libevo there | 09:28 |
seb128 | libevo is not a real lib | 09:28 |
seb128 | it's a collection of .so for evolution | 09:28 |
seb128 | it has no rdepends out of evo | 09:29 |
seb128 | mutter = gnome-shell | 09:29 |
seb128 | that would load only the new one | 09:29 |
Laney | if you say so :-) | 09:29 |
seb128 | well, there might be an issue, but if they really need the update to me it looks it could work and is work trying/investigating | 09:30 |
seb128 | is worth* | 09:30 |
xnox | is there like an icon factory to query an icon from current/default gnome theme? | 09:31 |
xnox | glade to the rescue! | 09:32 |
seb128 | xnox, http://iloveubuntu.net/icon-library-10-released-support-ubuntu-1304-and-ubuntu-1310 | 09:38 |
seb128 | xnox, you can just get https://launchpad.net/icon-library/trunk/lucid-release/+download/iconlibrary02052010.tar.gz untar and run from srcdir | 09:39 |
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xnox | seb128: thanks! that helped a lot. | 09:57 |
xnox | seb128: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/170111173/wrong-icons.png | 09:57 |
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seb128 | xnox, still having that icon theme issue? | 10:43 |
xnox | seb128: yes. | 10:45 |
seb128 | xnox, can you edit /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UpdateManager/UpdatesAvailable.py | 10:45 |
seb128 | xnox, l235 | 10:45 |
seb128 | xnox, change it to self.app_icons = Gtk.IconTheme.get_default() | 10:45 |
seb128 | e.g add the get_default() | 10:45 |
seb128 | then try again to see if that fixes it? | 10:45 |
ochosi | fwiw, i can confirm this icon-issue in xubuntu | 10:47 |
ochosi | it appeared a few weeks ago | 10:47 |
seb128 | ochosi, ^ | 10:47 |
xnox | ochosi: it's been like that forever. | 10:47 |
seb128 | can you try that change? | 10:47 |
ochosi | sure, one sec | 10:47 |
xnox | seb128: yeap, i get everything wonderful now ! \o/ | 10:49 |
ochosi | yup, that works | 10:49 |
seb128 | xnox, ochosi, great, let me mp that, thanks for testing | 10:49 |
xnox | seb128: =))))))))))) trusty is going to be so smooth ;-) | 10:49 |
seb128 | ;-) | 10:49 |
seb128 | why am I fixing mvo's bugs btw? he's back soon, he should do that ;-) | 10:50 |
ochosi | no problem and thanks a lot for that fix seb128! | 10:50 |
ochosi | hehe | 10:50 |
xnox | seb128: don't you try punting - gtk, theming, issues, on others =))))))) it's not like it's never gtk's fault ;-) | 10:52 |
seb128 | hehe | 10:52 |
seb128 | xnox, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/update-manager/correct-icon-theme/+merge/211904 | 10:56 |
seb128 | xnox, ok, fix merged, I'm not doing an upload for it, but feel free to do it if there is nothing else pending for update-manager/you think it's worth an upload by itself | 11:06 |
xnox | oh right, cause i'm supposedly update-manager maintainer, ain't I. | 11:08 |
* xnox can't wait for mvo to come back =) | 11:09 | |
seb128 | ;-) | 11:10 |
GunnarHj | Hi seb128 | 11:23 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, hey | 11:24 |
GunnarHj | seb128: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/whats-new.html updated. | 11:24 |
GunnarHj | New wording in item 5.1 - it previously said "literally hundreds of different online sources", but we felt last night that it might not be correct. | 11:24 |
GunnarHj | Do you know the approximate true number? | 11:24 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, check with mhr3 | 11:24 |
seb128 | he's working on dash/scopes | 11:24 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, thanks. | 11:24 |
davidcalle | GunnarHj, seb128, it's more around 70 (if we count the various video sources that merged under the label "online videos") | 11:26 |
GunnarHj | davidcalle: So "dozens" is more correct than "literally hundreds" then? | 11:27 |
davidcalle | GunnarHj, I would say so :) | 11:27 |
GunnarHj | davidcalle: Ok, I think that's what I needed. Thanks! | 11:28 |
davidcalle | GunnarHj, np | 11:28 |
seb128 | davidcalle, hey | 11:31 |
seb128 | davidcalle, do you maintain the manpage scope? ;-) | 11:31 |
davidcalle | seb128, yeaaaah... That's a trap, right? :) | 11:31 |
davidcalle | seb128, oh, it's broken! | 11:33 |
seb128 | davidcalle, not sure it's broken, but apport triggers every time you type "disk<enter>" in the dash | 11:34 |
seb128 | which is quite annoying | 11:34 |
seb128 | mhr3 said it's the manpages scope | 11:34 |
seb128 | bug #1274669 | 11:34 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1274669 in libunity (Ubuntu) "scope-runner-dbus.py crashed with signal 5 in g_variant_new_va()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1274669 | 11:34 |
davidcalle | seb128, that sounds like it. Thanks for the heads-up. | 11:34 |
seb128 | yw, would be great if that could be fixed before release ;-) | 11:35 |
seb128 | thanks for looking at it! | 11:35 |
davidcalle | seb128, yep | 11:36 |
seb128 | great | 11:38 |
seb128 | webkit 3 - 0 Laney | 11:43 |
Laney | ∞ | 11:44 |
Laney | that PPA needs to stop telling tales on me | 11:44 |
seb128 | haha | 11:44 |
seb128 | Laney, btw still planning to review the u-s-s/click branch? | 11:47 |
Laney | I'm doing it now | 11:47 |
seb128 | great, thanks | 11:47 |
desrt | good morning | 11:52 |
pitti | hey desrt, how are you? | 12:03 |
desrt | starting my coffee intake :) | 12:04 |
desrt | pitti: i wanted to ask about your jenkins jhbuilding the other day ... | 12:04 |
desrt | i guess you stopped doing this? | 12:04 |
pitti | desrt: yes; I replied to you, you didn't see it? | 12:04 |
desrt | no... | 12:04 |
pitti | desrt: yes, it hasn't been maintained for a fair while; it didn't raise that much interest, it seems largely superseded by gnome-continuous | 12:05 |
desrt | pitti: it's also a 404 :) | 12:05 |
pitti | desrt: and we (as in Ubuntun desktop) haven't spent much time on GNOME recently | 12:06 |
desrt | i'm considering reviving it | 12:06 |
desrt | perhaps in an altered form | 12:06 |
Laney | gatox: should I be able to use your click mock service on the phone? | 12:20 |
gatox | Laney, no idea, i don't have a phone to test it there, and the emulator doesn't work here | 12:23 |
Laney | ok, doesn't work for me | 12:24 |
gatox | Laney, it works on the desktop | 12:24 |
Laney | yeah i wanted to check it on the phone | 12:25 |
gatox | Laney, i don't think the python app can start a process with ui in the phone, right?? | 12:26 |
gatox | Laney, are you starting the ui manually, or the python process is doing it? | 12:27 |
Laney | the latter | 12:27 |
Laney | you have to pass that weird flag --desktop_file_hint | 12:27 |
Laney | but the updates panel comes up empty | 12:27 |
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gatox | Laney, well, something in the way apps are launched in the phone can be doing something there and probably not usinng the env vars that the python process define | 12:28 |
Laney | gatox: ok, trying it on the desktop, can I get it to present an update? | 12:35 |
Laney | I just get 'software is up to date' | 12:36 |
gatox | Laney, running the mock service you should see 2 updates | 12:37 |
Laney | hmm there's a critical on the console about signond | 12:38 |
gatox | Laney, that is u1-creds | 12:38 |
Laney | right | 12:42 |
Laney | so i can't really test this | 12:42 |
gatox | Laney, well... signon actually always shows some errors, but seems to work, maybe dobey can guide you on this | 12:46 |
seb128 | desrt, pitti: hey | 12:49 |
dobey | ignore the signond critical afaik | 12:49 |
dobey | but if you don't have a u1 account configured in online accounts, maybe it doesn't work? | 12:50 |
dobey | you have to use the qml system-settings to add it though, not the gtk+ control center | 12:51 |
Laney | I did | 12:51 |
Laney | seb128: can you run gvim quickly for me and see if the menus look normal? | 12:53 |
seb128 | Laney, no they don't :p | 12:57 |
seb128 | they have underscores and utf-8 weird chars | 12:57 |
ogra_ | must be your weird language setting :P | 12:58 |
seb128 | but the keybinding in menus are non standard | 12:58 |
ogra_ | oh, wait, friday is tomorrow | 12:58 |
seb128 | e.g ^R | 12:58 |
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seb128 | or :wq | 12:58 |
seb128 | I can imagine unity-gtk-module having issue with that | 12:58 |
seb128 | I wonder if we should blacklist or try to fix | 12:58 |
seb128 | that's one for attente in any case | 12:59 |
Laney | ya, just checking if it was just me | 12:59 |
seb128 | (he in .nz atm so probably eod) | 12:59 |
Laney | I get loads of glib criticals when running it from a terminal | 12:59 |
pitti | hey seb128, ça va ? | 12:59 |
seb128 | pitti, oui, et toi ? | 13:00 |
pitti | seb128: good as well, although my wrist is still troubling | 13:00 |
seb128 | pitti, oh, what did you do (I think I asked earlier in the week when you said it was not ok but I'm not sure you replied/if I read the reply) | 13:02 |
pitti | seb128: nothing too bad (a "ganglion"), but it'll need a little operation | 13:02 |
seb128 | oh ok :/ | 13:03 |
seb128 | good luck with that | 13:03 |
pitti | thanks | 13:03 |
seb128 | when are you getting it fixed? | 13:04 |
seb128 | do you know how long you are going to need to rest it/stop typing then? | 13:04 |
pitti | seb128: I don't know yet, will know more next Monday | 13:04 |
pitti | seb128: anyway, just sorting out travel for the client sprint, looking forward to Malta! | 13:05 |
seb128 | yeah, same here | 13:05 |
seb128 | I'm pondering taking some vac days to visit | 13:05 |
pitti | seb128: I'll arrive on Friday already (paying the weekend nights for myself), so I can hang out with you guys and explore the island | 13:05 |
seb128 | oh | 13:06 |
pitti | seb128: (I'll be there officially only for teh second week) | 13:06 |
seb128 | oh, same for me | 13:06 |
seb128 | second week | 13:06 |
seb128 | did you book hotel yet? | 13:06 |
pitti | seb128: my parents had been there, they said it's a really nice island | 13:06 |
pitti | seb128: no, booking flights first | 13:06 |
seb128 | I'm going to come on friday as well then, I was looking for people who want maybe to visit ;-) | 13:06 |
pitti | seb128: I'll stay in the same hotel, much less trouble | 13:06 |
seb128 | I was thinking the same | 13:06 |
pitti | seb128: I asked msm, we can just put that into a note in the spreadsheet, and the hotel will split the bill accordingly | 13:07 |
seb128 | great | 13:07 |
seb128 | want to share room for those extra days? | 13:07 |
seb128 | (if you don't have a roomie yet) | 13:07 |
Laney | ah, I should have done that maybe | 13:07 |
Laney | oh well | 13:07 |
seb128 | Laney, did you confirm flights yet? | 13:08 |
Laney | yeah | 13:08 |
pitti | seb128: sure; I was asking desrt as I thought you'd stay for two weeks | 13:08 |
pitti | seb128: desrt wanted to get back to you as he already signed up with you | 13:08 |
seb128 | right | 13:08 |
pitti | it's that big dating party again :) | 13:08 |
seb128 | there is some stories there | 13:08 |
pitti | Laney: you might still be able to move them? | 13:08 |
seb128 | looks like mvo put my name | 13:08 |
pitti | haha | 13:08 |
seb128 | but he didn't ask me | 13:08 |
Laney | haha | 13:08 |
Laney | I never bother to put anyone | 13:09 |
seb128 | I'm emailing him :p | 13:09 |
seb128 | Laney, you might end up with snorers! | 13:09 |
Laney | true ... | 13:09 |
pitti | seb128: well, so you+mvo, desrt+me perhaps? | 13:10 |
pitti | desrt: ^ | 13:10 |
seb128 | pitti, yeah, I was asking about those friday-saturday nights though | 13:10 |
Laney | there would be some fee to change it now | 13:10 |
seb128 | pitti, I don't think desrt is coming earlier to visit | 13:10 |
Laney | i'll leave it | 13:10 |
desrt | seb128: i may :) | 13:10 |
desrt | if others will be there as well | 13:10 |
seb128 | desrt, oh, I though you had booked already | 13:10 |
desrt | not yet | 13:10 |
desrt | should do that today maybe | 13:10 |
seb128 | party! | 13:10 |
pitti | desrt: warning, I usually get up at 7 for some running (but I'll try to be quiet) :) | 13:10 |
seb128 | haha | 13:11 |
desrt | pitti: warning: if seb is to be believed, i usually sleep on the floor | 13:11 |
seb128 | larsu, didrocks: you guys are not coming early to take some vac/visit? :-) | 13:11 |
seb128 | desrt, experience prove that's true! | 13:11 |
seb128 | I should have taken photos | 13:11 |
seb128 | ;-) | 13:11 |
desrt | mvo: warning: seb128 takes pictures of sleeping roommates | 13:11 |
didrocks | seb128: no, I will just enjoy my week-ends :p | 13:12 |
pitti | . o O { OMG, I'm sooo glad that this is a private channel which isn't logged into the interwebs or anything } | 13:12 |
desrt | (awkward silence) | 13:13 |
pitti | I think we just found a new NP hard problem, the "sprint roommate assignment" | 13:13 |
desrt | pitti: fortunately the problem distributes nicely | 13:14 |
larsu | seb128: I probably am | 13:14 |
larsu | or maybe staying late... don't know yet | 13:15 |
* larsu is too lazy to read scrollback | 13:15 | |
desrt | larsu: you didn't miss much | 13:16 |
larsu | looks like threre was a lot going on | 13:16 |
larsu | I was fixing a bug in the meantime (hope you all feel bad now!) | 13:16 |
desrt | larsu: did you sort the rhythmbox/gtk/atk/init thing? | 13:17 |
larsu | I kind of came to the conclusion that it's not worth it | 13:17 |
larsu | we should just fix mpros | 13:17 |
larsu | *mrpis | 13:17 |
seb128 | larsu, seems like some of us are going to come early (I was pondering between both but pitti is coming early so that pretty much decided it for me ;-) | 13:18 |
pitti | I'm honored :) | 13:18 |
* desrt copies pitti too | 13:18 | |
larsu | early is better because there's another sprint before ours, right? | 13:18 |
desrt | plus... by encouraging seb to be there early rather than late, and this being malta, we get to enjoy seb's red head all week | 13:19 |
seb128 | e.g coming on friday before | 13:19 |
seb128 | spending the w.e visiting | 13:19 |
larsu | I will probably spend more than a weekend | 13:19 |
larsu | a week or so | 13:19 |
larsu | pitti: when are you going? | 13:19 |
pitti | larsu: my plan is to arrive Friday, May 23 | 13:20 |
pitti | (asked for flights, but no answer yet) | 13:21 |
pitti | larsu: until Friday evening or Sat morning | 13:21 |
larsu | and travel around a bit on the weekend? Or just hanging out? | 13:21 |
desrt | sitting! | 13:21 |
pitti | larsu: both, I guess | 13:21 |
larsu | desrt: this is why I didn't ask you: I knew the answer ;) | 13:21 |
pitti | the neighbor island is just a quick boat trip away, and said to be marvellous | 13:21 |
larsu | ah cool | 13:21 |
pitti | and Malta itself certainly as well | 13:22 |
desrt | zomg | 13:22 |
desrt | coming on friday is basically impossible for me unless i want to pay _lots_ | 13:22 |
larsu | come a week before then ;) | 13:22 |
larsu | I'm seriously considering that | 13:22 |
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seb128 | desrt, hahaha | 13:23 |
larsu | if my knee allows me to hike again... | 13:23 |
larsu | desrt: did you see chergert's autotools wrapper? | 13:23 |
seb128 | larsu, desrt: I might be up for coming a bit earlier than friday as well | 13:23 |
seb128 | not sure how much there is there | 13:24 |
seb128 | like wednesday might be good enough for me | 13:24 |
seb128 | 4-5 days, the island is small enough | 13:24 |
desrt | larsu: no. i assume it is some sort of cargocult avoidance mechanism? | 13:26 |
larsu | desrt: err ... I don't know | 13:27 |
seb128 | mterry, hey | 13:38 |
mterry | seb128, hello! | 13:38 |
mterry | seb128, brb | 13:39 |
seb128 | mterry, can you look at the pagination mr/the review on it? | 13:39 |
Laney | haha | 13:39 |
seb128 | !!! | 13:39 |
Laney | "hi, bye" | 13:39 |
seb128 | typical mterry! | 13:39 |
mterry | seb128, :) What's up? | 13:39 |
seb128 | mterry, can you look at the pagination mr/the review on it? | 13:39 |
mterry | seb128, yeah was about to comment | 13:40 |
seb128 | mterry, I've it in a silo, it looked fine to me, but Cimi seems to think you change change the condition for the enable/disable dots | 13:40 |
seb128 | mterry, great | 13:40 |
Cimi | seb128, maybe I was wrong, I didn't test it | 13:40 |
Cimi | seb128, it should look that the first dots are filled, the remaining empty | 13:40 |
seb128 | Cimi, see my comment on it? (or maybe wait for mterry to comment) | 13:40 |
mterry | Cimi, yeah, that's what the current logic does | 13:40 |
Cimi | sorry I need to enable mails for those merges | 13:41 |
seb128 | Cimi, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/uss.png | 13:41 |
seb128 | Cimi, ignore the french and the fact that index is off by one | 13:41 |
seb128 | that's what it looks like | 13:41 |
Cimi | this is fine, but the dot seems wrong | 13:41 |
seb128 | (the index being wrong was a local issue when I took that screenshot) | 13:41 |
seb128 | oh? | 13:42 |
Cimi | seb128, can you test at 18 gu? | 13:42 |
seb128 | 18? they are currently at 1 | 13:43 |
seb128 | Cimi, mterry: well, anyway, the logic seems fine so I'm going to land that silo, we can fix dot look issues in a following merge if needed | 13:43 |
Cimi | loop index? | 13:44 |
Cimi | what kind of indexing we have :D | 13:44 |
darkxst | seb128, Laney Hi | 13:44 |
seb128 | hey | 13:44 |
mterry | Cimi, 'index' is the index of the repeater object -- i.e. the loop for the delegate | 13:44 |
Cimi | I thought pagelist.index is the current page | 13:45 |
Cimi | so imagine current page is 3 | 13:45 |
darkxst | so I think gnome-shell directly access the new dbus api through mutter | 13:45 |
Cimi | so index 0, 1, 2, 3 of the repeater are <= pagelist.index | 13:45 |
seb128 | right | 13:46 |
darkxst | so its just g-c-c and g-s-d that require the gnome-desktop changes | 13:46 |
seb128 | so they are enabled | 13:46 |
Cimi | yes | 13:46 |
seb128 | so it's right ;-) | 13:46 |
seb128 | darkxst, seems a new source/binary used by those 2 is enough? | 13:46 |
darkxst | I guess in theory it could work | 13:47 |
seb128 | do you have any specific concerns about that approach? | 13:48 |
darkxst | seb128, no, I guess that is what happens on the ppa anyway and that seems to work | 13:49 |
darkxst | and its probably safer this late in the cycle | 13:50 |
Cimi | oh fuck | 13:50 |
Cimi | indeed index <= pagelist.index is like pagelist.index >= index | 13:50 |
Cimi | :D | 13:50 |
Cimi | think italian coffees are not strong enough | 13:50 |
Cimi | however in my defense I wrote that comment at midnight | 13:50 |
Cimi | I should not look into work stuff at those times :D | 13:50 |
seb128 | darkxst, right, I just don't see the ffe being accepted and that seems an acceptable solution that should work for everyone | 13:51 |
seb128 | Cimi, indeed ;-) | 13:51 |
Cimi | seb128, can you run at higher dpi? | 13:51 |
darkxst | seb128, yeh its getting way too late. | 13:52 |
seb128 | Cimi, you can do it, the debs are in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-018 | 13:52 |
Laney | I'd want to see the split go away in U as soon as possible | 13:52 |
seb128 | +1 | 13:53 |
seb128 | we can probably take on the initial approach in U | 13:53 |
Cimi | seb128, can you explain me this thing of the CI train? | 13:53 |
seb128 | Cimi, people list things they want merged on https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFlCc1VzeVZzWmdBZS11WERjdVc3dmc#gid=0 | 13:53 |
seb128 | Cimi, they get a ppa with the result, they validate it | 13:53 |
Cimi | seb128, I don't know if there was a mail about that, even if it was thunderbird kindly erased me all my messages | 13:53 |
seb128 | then it get merged/uploaded | 13:53 |
Cimi | I read self service as title | 13:54 |
Cimi | and I thought about food | 13:54 |
darkxst | Laney, right, well no reason to maintain that split | 13:56 |
Laney | yes | 13:56 |
darkxst | that said, upstream are open to moving the app stuff, like thumbnailers into gtk | 13:57 |
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darkxst | at which point gnome-desktop could be forked, since it would only tie directly to g-s-d/g-c-c etc | 13:58 |
darkxst | but I really need to get to bed now... | 14:06 |
seb128 | darkxst, night | 14:08 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, hey | 14:08 |
darkxst | night | 14:11 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, do you know why compiz is not only setting a passive grab on the root window for the wheel-scroll-workspaces options? | 14:18 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, (still trying to get that scrolling issues resolved for the LTS) | 14:19 |
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seb128 | desrt, pitti: I got a reply from mvo, he would like to room with me if I've nobody ... do you guy room together then? | 14:30 |
desrt | seb128: sounds good | 14:31 |
seb128 | cool | 14:31 |
seb128 | Laney, you could have picked the new pango bugfix, it has like 3 commits including a segfault fix ;-) | 14:34 |
Laney | didn't see it | 14:34 |
Laney | I can do that one in a bit, after lunch | 14:35 |
seb128 | Laney, settings meeting in 25 min btw :p | 14:35 |
Laney | oh | 14:35 |
Laney | shit! | 14:35 |
seb128 | lol | 14:35 |
seb128 | no lunch for you! | 14:35 |
Laney | super late lunch | 14:36 |
* Laney eats own arm | 14:36 | |
seb128 | or quick snack between now and the meeting ;-) | 14:36 |
seb128 | just eat in front of us in the hangout :p | 14:36 |
seb128 | but if you do that don't eat your own arm please | 14:36 |
Laney | need to go out and get the veg bag and bread | 14:39 |
* Laney has interim tangerines | 14:39 | |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: Hey, at this point it all boils down to a patch in X that got rejected. With the patch, everything works as expected. The issue even goes beyond the wheel-scroll-workspaces issue. It also affects scrolling unfocused Gtk apps. | 14:45 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, well, I was dicussing it with garnacho on #gtk+, he wrote | 14:46 |
seb128 | <garnacho> seb128, you=compiz users, the root of the problem is compiz (and other WMs) doing passive grabs on scroll buttons, so the app sees the pointer "leave" and "enter" anytime that's triggered | 14:46 |
seb128 | <garnacho> seb128, the combination of reparenting + scroll button grabs only seems to happen on compiz by default... and xfwm through config tweaking IIRC | 14:46 |
seb128 | <garnacho> seb128, then why doesn't compiz only set the passive grab on the root window :) | 14:46 |
seb128 | 14:47 | |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, basically it's only an issue if you have a passive grab on the win, that shouldn't be the case on apps? | 14:47 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: Hmm, I trust garnacho knows what he is talking about, but I think it's bigger than this. | 14:48 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, he wrote that as well | 14:48 |
seb128 | <garnacho> seb128, I did get to the unpleasant conclusion that the only thing we can do is calling XIQueryPointer() on XI_Enter (which is going to happen quite often for you), implementing that is still in my todo | 14:48 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: Try scrolling an unfocused Gedit window. This used to work before the original fix. Is that really the fault of Compiz? | 14:48 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, that should fix it for us, but it would still nice to avoid doing calls where not needed | 14:48 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, there were other issues, I trust garnacho for knowing what he's doing/saying there | 14:49 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: I can certainly look into how Compiz could set a passive grab on the root window. | 14:49 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, things used to work but there were other issues (like scroll events sent back to the wrong windows and creating buggy scrolling on focus) | 14:50 |
seb128 | ChrisTownsend, anyway, I'm just sharing the info I got | 14:50 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: Right. Ok, thanks. | 14:50 |
seb128 | yw | 14:50 |
seb128 | garnacho is eventually going to fix it in GTK | 14:50 |
seb128 | but as he said, that's going to make us to more sync calls to X apis when not needed | 14:50 |
seb128 | it would be better to only set the passive grab on those buttons where we need them | 14:51 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: Ok, that's good. I'll see what we can do on the Compiz side. I admittedly am not very educated in this area, but I'll see what we can do. | 14:51 |
seb128 | thanks | 14:51 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: np | 14:51 |
seb128 | charles, tedg, larsu, Laney, mpt, settings meeting? | 15:01 |
mpt | yep | 15:01 |
charles | yes | 15:01 |
larsu | on my way | 15:02 |
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seb128 | Laney, foooooooood | 15:23 |
Laney | I need to go out into the big bad cold world | 15:23 |
Laney | also I didn't quite catch what you said about resetting and AS and gsettings and syncing | 15:23 |
Laney | can you say it again in text? :-) | 15:23 |
Laney | hangouts man | 15:24 |
seb128 | sorry about that, I was trying to remember that at the same time | 15:24 |
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Laney | it wasn't very good audio quality | 15:24 |
seb128 | they sync the launcher config from gsettings to a-s when a-s is empty | 15:25 |
seb128 | so if you wipe out from a-s it's going to read gsettings | 15:25 |
Laney | O_O | 15:25 |
seb128 | and copy that | 15:25 |
seb128 | so basically you reset gsettings | 15:25 |
seb128 | then wipe out a-s | 15:25 |
seb128 | and it should do it | 15:25 |
Laney | that's weird, but ok | 15:25 |
Laney | what about the home screen config? | 15:25 |
Laney | will find out in a bit | 15:26 |
* Laney biab | 15:26 | |
seb128 | Laney, I don't know about that one | 15:27 |
seb128 | Laney, have fun | 15:27 |
seb128 | Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1207860 btw | 15:27 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1207860 in Ubuntu system image "Need support for factory reset (needed by settings)" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:27 |
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andyrock | seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1295194 | 15:54 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1295194 in Unity "[lockscreen] It's possible to lock a guest-session" [High,In progress] | 15:54 |
andyrock | i opened a new bug for that issue | 15:55 |
andyrock | proposed a fix too | 15:55 |
seb128 | andyrock, thanks | 15:55 |
seb128 | andyrock, I had one open about it no? | 15:55 |
andyrock | mmm nope that's about the option key | 15:56 |
seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1292154/comments/9 | 15:56 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1292154 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity ignores "disable-lock-screen" desktop key" [High,Confirmed] | 15:56 |
seb128 | oh, you copied the description to a new bug | 15:56 |
andyrock | well are two different issues | 15:56 |
seb128 | cool | 15:56 |
seb128 | thanks | 15:56 |
andyrock | yeah i'm to lazy to write | 15:56 |
andyrock | copy paste is faster | 15:57 |
andyrock | :D | 15:57 |
seb128 | hehe | 15:57 |
seb128 | thanks for fixing it! | 15:57 |
andyrock | seb128, i just got a fix for the double lockscreen when coming back from the greeter | 16:02 |
seb128 | excellent! | 16:02 |
seb128 | it's in gnome-screensaver? | 16:03 |
seb128 | if so, send it for review, I'm about to go for some exercice but can review that once I'm back | 16:03 |
seb128 | be back in ~1 hour | 16:03 |
andyrock | seb128, it's both unity and g-s but they are really small | 16:06 |
andyrock | i'll do some more tests | 16:06 |
andyrock | and I'll propose a fix | 16:07 |
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Laney | cyphermox: :( do you know why I don't get nm-applet in panel any more? | 17:40 |
Laney | nlaney@iota> nm-applet ~ | 17:40 |
Laney | ** (nm-applet:18661): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-3wU79IWkFK: Connection refused | 17:40 |
Laney | ** (nm-applet:18661): CRITICAL **: nm_secret_agent_register: assertion 'priv->registered == FALSE' failed | 17:40 |
Laney | nm-applet-Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon | 17:40 |
Laney | gnome-panel that is | 17:40 |
cyphermox | yuck | 17:41 |
Laney | the secret agent thing only happened once it seems | 17:41 |
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seb128 | bregma, bschaefer: hey, so with today's unity update it seems like the indicator stacking issue is fixed, but we are back to have alt-tab showing over the lockscreen? | 19:00 |
seb128 | bregma, bschaefer: can you guys add to your testplan to test that both work together? rather than bouncing forth and back between the issue with each landing ;-) | 19:01 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, can you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1295220 ? | 19:02 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1295220 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Images can't be viewed system-wide after libgtk3 update" [Undecided,New] | 19:02 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, that seems to be your security update | 19:03 |
mdeslaur | seb128: hrm, sure | 19:04 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks, that's the only report so I don't think you broke the world, but in case you have some idea... | 19:04 |
bschaefer | seb128, how are you reproducing the alt+tab over the lockscreen? (I cant get that to happen here...) | 19:09 |
seb128 | bschaefer, press alt, press tab, release tab but not not alt, press ctrl and L | 19:09 |
seb128 | then you can alt-tab on the lock | 19:09 |
seb128 | (similar steps to the one bregma had a week ago iirc) | 19:09 |
bschaefer | seb128, hmm let me check if that grab branch landed | 19:10 |
bschaefer | seb128, sorry, yes we have a fix and bregma is getting it all built (IIRC) atm: https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/lockscreen-grab-fixes/+merge/211654 | 19:11 |
seb128 | bschaefer, oh ok, so what I said, every build go forth and back between fixing and restoring the issue, hopefully that one has all side covered ;-) | 19:12 |
seb128 | okSb363Lucid | 19:12 |
seb128 | bah | 19:12 |
sarnold | seb128: password? :) | 19:12 |
seb128 | typed password on irc :p | 19:12 |
seb128 | sarnold, yep, changing it | 19:12 |
bschaefer | seb128, sorry, yeah that grab branch was made a little late :) | 19:12 |
* sarnold tacks up the sign "zero days since a password was typed on irc" | 19:12 | |
seb128 | lol | 19:13 |
sarnold | seb128: heh at least you spotted it quickly :) | 19:13 |
bschaefer | seb128, i've done that before, luckly on a less populated irc :) | 19:13 |
bschaefer | though that would be the lockscreen there... | 19:13 |
sarnold | hehe, the dangers of testing lockscreen bugs? :) | 19:13 |
seb128 | yeah, and I though I had focus because I clicked on the lock entry | 19:13 |
seb128 | oh well | 19:13 |
bschaefer | seb128, :), the worse one was the xmir + tty...i typed my password in irc to many times :( | 19:14 |
seb128 | passwd changed | 19:14 |
sarnold | bschaefer: haha, nice :) | 19:14 |
bschaefer | seb128, also, got the french layout regression fixed here for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix-super+num-shortcut-to-keycode/+merge/211839 | 19:14 |
bschaefer | seb128, not sure if you had a bug for it yet, I didnt see one so i made my own | 19:14 |
seb128 | bschaefer, thanks, I saw that... I mentioned it to didrocks the other day but forgot to file a bug | 19:15 |
seb128 | on that note, dinner time | 19:16 |
bschaefer | seb128, enjoy! | 19:16 |
seb128 | thanks | 19:16 |
oliver_g | hi | 19:52 |
oliver_g | there are two changes in upcoming gedit 3.12 which I'd like to have in the Gedit version in Trusty... | 19:53 |
oliver_g | I suppose upgrading to Gedit 3.12 (or downgrading to 3.8) is out of question, but would it be possible to backport the changes? | 19:54 |
oliver_g | this is about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726408 (Allow plugins to set/get the search context in GeditDocument) | 19:54 |
ubot2 | Gnome bug 726408 in search and replace "Allow plugins to set/get the search context in GeditDocument" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 19:54 |
oliver_g | and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725424 (filebrowser plugin doesn't support add_context_item/remove_context_item message any more) | 19:55 |
ubot2 | Gnome bug 725424 in Plugins "filebrowser plugin doesn't support add_context_item/remove_context_item message any more" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:55 |
oliver_g | in both cases the current 3.10 version lacks features that are somewhat available in 3.8 and have been fixed again in 3.12 :-/ | 19:55 |
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