[00:48] dsmythies, godbyk, everybody else: Just updated the proposed "What's new" page. [00:48] http://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/whats-new.html [00:48] Please let me know if you have some last minute feedback. [00:50] GunnarHj: Should we split the updates into two categories: since 12.04 and since 13.10? [00:51] godbyk: I know that we talked about doing so during a meeting, but I found it difficult to make that distinction in a sensible way. [00:51] GunnarHj: Fair enough. [00:52] brb [01:08] back [01:09] GunnarHj: I'd change #3 to read: Improved look and style including rounded window decorations, a new interface for screen unlock, and other tweaks to the theme. [01:11] godbyk: Good improvement! [01:12] I want to rejigger #5, too... [01:13] godbyk: Please be feel to do it directly in the branch. [01:13] free [01:14] GunnarHj: okay. [01:14] GunnarHj: Probably easier than describing the changes. :) [01:15] godbyk: Right. [01:18] GunnarHj: Where did you get the 'literally hundreds of different online sources' count for the Dash? How many does it actually search? [01:23] godbyk: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html [01:23] godbyk: I just copied and pasted... Don't really know. [01:23] GunnarHj: Huh. Fair enough. :) [01:24] godbyk: But I agree it does not sound plausible. [01:25] godbyk: Maybe we should make it a litte more vague... [01:25] Yeah. [01:25] I was trying to find a real number.. are there actually hundreds? Or just dozens? Or maybe only a dozen? [01:26] godbyk: Good question. I have absolutely no idea. I have it switched off... [01:27] godbyk: I can ask someone tomorrow. [01:28] 'kay. [01:35] GunnarHj: I made some adjustments to the What's New page. I've just pushed the to bzr so you can take a look. Feel free to revert anything you dislike. [01:40] godbyk: I like it. Thanks! [01:40] GunnarHj: np === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware [06:27] godbyk: I noticed What's News says changes made since 12.04 LTS [06:27] but these changes should be since the last release not 12.04 LTS [06:48] bkerensa: I'll forward you some e-mail thread about the what's new stuff. [06:52] dsmythies: oh so I should leave the 12.04 LTS bit? [06:52] dsmythies: nick of time btw I was just about to push :P [06:53] Yes, I think so. I'll forward you a bit of the thread. [06:56] okie dokie [06:56] bkerensa: I sent some of the e-mails, but not all. The issue was discussed and LTS to LTS what's new won out. [06:58] Do you know if anyone from the team is interested in taking care of the release notes? [06:58] It usually takes a couple hours of time and pinging all the teams for contributor names [07:03] good night all [13:37] hi [13:37] anyone here has a write access to the wiki ? [13:37] Hey there, melodie. Everyone does with a LP account. [13:37] hi belkinsa everyone but me [13:37] Did you log in? [13:37] melodie: when you sign into the wiki, is the username box checked? [13:37] when I try to get to a wiki page I am redirected to the login screen [13:38] hi pleia2 I will check now and reply [13:38] I am at "yes log me in" all boxes checked [13:39] including Username? [13:39] now I would like to go back to the page I was there [13:39] (it won't show up if you don't have one) [13:39] pleia2 all 3 boxes checked [13:39] I have 4 boxes :) [13:39] so I don't know what 3 you have [13:40] Username is the important one [13:40] what are your other boxes? [13:40] Time zone, Full name, Username, Email address [13:40] I have those too. [13:41] I think I don't have timezone [13:41] ok, but you do have Username? [13:41] Isn't the full name one the only one that isn't grey out? [13:41] the other issue on the wiki is caching, sometimes logging in with a different browser helps, or clearing the cache [13:41] miracle, that seems to work! [13:41] oh good :) [13:42] I had to login twice though [13:42] Good to hear. [13:42] goofy thing [13:42] It can be weird at times. [13:42] goofy? [13:42] o_o [13:42] they use pretty aggressive caching on the wiki, so sometimes it behaves oddly [13:42] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Goofy.svg [13:42] lol, knome. [13:43] yes! Dingo :D [14:33] ok, the doc is edited now [14:33] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UsbAudioDevices [14:34] I put it under a title 2: "Information as of 2014, March 20" [14:34] I hope it's ok for you guys and gals [16:45] godbyk: I am using your check_validation.sh script right now. But I do not know what it is doing. I entered: doug@s15:~/docs-1404/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-help/C$ ./check_validation.sh and it has been gone for about 10 minutes now. [16:46] godbyk: Oh. It finished. [16:46] dsmythies: It's checking everything but not telling you anything until it finds an error. [16:46] dsmythies: If you use the -v option, it'll give you status information as it goes along. [16:52] Hi all [16:54] Today is DocumentationStringFreeze. So we can now safely start with the translation. [16:54] Or is there any change in any pot file expected? [16:58] CarstenG: I think dsmythies has already uploaded the pot file today, but I'm not positive. [17:01] godbyk: Thanks. I saw his email in the branch revisions. [17:01] I t was not me that changed the pot file. I'm checking things and would like until the freeze time of 21:00 UTC. (Unrelated but, For the serverguide I need until 21:00 UTC, but I do the next step anyway) [17:02] Ok, than we can start :-) And in general, for all the other packages I think, we can also start. [17:02] Ah, ok. Then we wait until 21 UTC [17:02] CarstenG: You can probably start translating, though. I don't think many strings have changed. [17:02] Or better tomorrow :-) [17:03] Yes, I guess some typos... [17:03] dsmythies: Btw, I kind of like the simplicity of this: https://wiki.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Tasks/DesktopHelp [17:06] Fortunately yesterday I downloaded all the po files from the doc. So I can compare it with the current version :-) [17:06] godbyk: Validation: I an do the syntax, orphans and dead link checks in 25 seconds. The script is takiing 3 minutes and 36 seconds. I'll do it again with verbose and observe what it is doing. [17:07] dsmythies: Hmm.. that's quite a bit of a difference. [17:07] dsmythies: One thing I'm doing differently than yelp-check is that I'm checking each file individually, but I wouldn't expect that to add so much overhead. [17:15] CarstenG: It was Gunnar that updated the .pot file and you should be O.K. to proceed. [17:16] godbyk: yes I like the gnome tasks page. [19:45] hey all, I've set the dates for open help 2014. would be great to see some ubuntu faces again. http://openhelpconference.com/ [22:25] godbyk: has anyone mailed the translations list to officially tell them they can begin translation? [22:26] bkerensa: I haven't noticed such an email yet. [22:26] godbyk: we should send one [22:26] :D [22:27] bkerensa: I think the latest pot is up on Rosetta/Launchpad now, so it should be safe to start translations. [22:29] bkerensa: Btw, Gunnar has upload rights now, so we shouldn't have to worry about chasing down someone to upload our package. [22:31] bkerensa: Oh, and I just saw an email exchange between Doug and Gunnar. They're on top of the translations mailing list. They're going to send an email once they've taken care of a couple odds and ends (e.g., waiting for the Launchpad to process the approval for the translation template). [23:00] I found this question interesting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202088/is-there-a-kind-of-ubuntu-wiki-sitemap-or-contents-index?atw=1 Someone is looking for a site map, maybe one should be created for the wiki? [23:13] godbyk: Yeah I saw that and talked to him