[00:48] <GunnarHj> dsmythies, godbyk, everybody else: Just updated the proposed "What's new" page.
[00:48] <GunnarHj> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/whats-new.html
[00:48] <GunnarHj> Please let me know if you have some last minute feedback.
[00:50] <godbyk> GunnarHj: Should we split the updates into two categories: since 12.04 and since 13.10?
[00:51] <GunnarHj> godbyk: I know that we talked about doing so during a meeting, but I found it difficult to make that distinction in a sensible way.
[00:51] <godbyk> GunnarHj: Fair enough.
[00:52] <godbyk> brb
[01:08] <godbyk> back
[01:09] <godbyk> GunnarHj: I'd change #3 to read: Improved look and style including rounded window decorations, a new interface for screen unlock, and other tweaks to the theme.
[01:11] <GunnarHj> godbyk: Good improvement!
[01:12] <godbyk> I want to rejigger #5, too...
[01:13] <GunnarHj> godbyk: Please be feel to do it directly in the branch.
[01:13] <GunnarHj> free
[01:14] <godbyk> GunnarHj: okay.
[01:14] <godbyk> GunnarHj: Probably easier than describing the changes. :)
[01:15] <GunnarHj> godbyk: Right.
[01:18] <godbyk> GunnarHj: Where did you get the 'literally hundreds of different online sources' count for the Dash? How many does it actually search?
[01:23] <GunnarHj> godbyk: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html
[01:23] <GunnarHj> godbyk: I just copied and pasted... Don't really know.
[01:23] <godbyk> GunnarHj: Huh. Fair enough. :)
[01:24] <GunnarHj> godbyk: But I agree it does not sound plausible.
[01:25] <GunnarHj> godbyk: Maybe we should make it a litte more vague...
[01:25] <godbyk> Yeah.
[01:25] <godbyk> I was trying to find a real number.. are there actually hundreds?  Or just dozens?  Or maybe only a dozen?
[01:26] <GunnarHj> godbyk: Good question. I have absolutely no idea. I have it switched off...
[01:27] <GunnarHj> godbyk: I can ask someone tomorrow.
[01:28] <godbyk> 'kay.
[01:35] <godbyk> GunnarHj: I made some adjustments to the What's New page. I've just pushed the to bzr so you can take a look. Feel free to revert anything you dislike.
[01:40] <GunnarHj> godbyk: I like it. Thanks!
[01:40] <godbyk> GunnarHj: np
[06:27] <bkerensa> godbyk: I noticed What's News says changes made since 12.04 LTS
[06:27] <bkerensa> but these changes should be since the last release not 12.04 LTS
[06:48] <dsmythies> bkerensa: I'll forward you some e-mail thread about the what's new stuff.
[06:52] <bkerensa> dsmythies: oh so I should leave the 12.04 LTS bit?
[06:52] <bkerensa> dsmythies: nick of time btw I was just about to push :P
[06:53] <dsmythies> Yes, I think so. I'll forward you a bit of the thread.
[06:56] <bkerensa> okie dokie
[06:56] <dsmythies> bkerensa: I sent some of the e-mails, but not all. The issue was discussed and LTS to LTS what's new won out.
[06:58] <bkerensa> Do you know if anyone from the team is interested in taking care of the release notes?
[06:58] <bkerensa> It usually takes a couple hours of time and pinging all the teams for contributor names
[07:03] <bkerensa> good night all
[13:37] <melodie> hi
[13:37] <melodie> anyone here has a write access to the wiki ?
[13:37] <belkinsa> Hey there, melodie.  Everyone does with a LP account.
[13:37] <melodie> hi belkinsa everyone but me
[13:37] <belkinsa> Did you log in?
[13:37] <pleia2> melodie: when you sign into the wiki, is the username box checked?
[13:37] <melodie> when I try to get to a wiki page I am redirected to the login screen
[13:38] <melodie> hi pleia2 I will check now and reply
[13:38] <melodie> I am at "yes log me in" all boxes checked
[13:39] <pleia2> including Username?
[13:39] <melodie> now I would like to go back to the page I was there
[13:39] <pleia2> (it won't show up if you don't have one)
[13:39] <melodie> pleia2 all 3 boxes checked
[13:39] <pleia2> I have 4 boxes :)
[13:39] <pleia2> so I don't know what 3 you have
[13:40] <pleia2> Username is the important one
[13:40] <melodie> what are your other boxes?
[13:40] <pleia2> Time zone, Full name, Username, Email address
[13:40] <belkinsa> I have those too.
[13:41] <melodie> I think I don't have timezone
[13:41] <pleia2> ok, but you do have Username?
[13:41] <belkinsa> Isn't the full name one the only one that isn't grey out?
[13:41] <pleia2> the other issue on the wiki is caching, sometimes logging in with a different browser helps, or clearing the cache
[13:41] <melodie> miracle, that seems to work!
[13:41] <pleia2> oh good :)
[13:42] <melodie> I had to login twice though
[13:42] <belkinsa> Good to hear.
[13:42] <pleia2> goofy thing
[13:42] <belkinsa> It can be weird at times.
[13:42] <melodie> goofy?
[13:42] <melodie> o_o
[13:42] <pleia2> they use pretty aggressive caching on the wiki, so sometimes it behaves oddly
[13:42] <knome> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Goofy.svg
[13:42] <belkinsa> lol, knome.
[13:43] <melodie> yes! Dingo :D
[14:33] <melodie> ok, the doc is edited now
[14:33] <melodie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UsbAudioDevices
[14:34] <melodie> I put it under a title 2: "Information as of 2014, March 20"
[14:34] <melodie> I hope it's ok for you guys and gals
[16:45] <dsmythies> godbyk: I am using your check_validation.sh script right now. But I do not know what it is doing. I entered: doug@s15:~/docs-1404/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-help/C$ ./check_validation.sh and it has been gone for about 10 minutes now.
[16:46] <dsmythies> godbyk: Oh. It finished.
[16:46] <godbyk> dsmythies: It's checking everything but not telling you anything until it finds an error.
[16:46] <godbyk> dsmythies: If you use the -v option, it'll give you status information as it goes along.
[16:52] <CarstenG> Hi all
[16:54] <CarstenG> Today is DocumentationStringFreeze. So we can now safely start with the translation.
[16:54] <CarstenG> Or is there any change in any pot file expected?
[16:58] <godbyk> CarstenG: I think dsmythies has already uploaded the pot file today, but I'm not positive.
[17:01] <CarstenG> godbyk: Thanks. I saw his email in the branch revisions.
[17:01] <dsmythies> I t was not me that changed the pot file. I'm checking things and would like until the freeze time of 21:00 UTC. (Unrelated but, For the serverguide I need until 21:00 UTC, but I do the next step anyway)
[17:02] <CarstenG> Ok, than we can start :-) And in general, for all the other packages I think, we can also start.
[17:02] <CarstenG> Ah, ok. Then we wait until 21 UTC
[17:02] <godbyk> CarstenG: You can probably start translating, though. I don't think many strings have changed.
[17:02] <CarstenG> Or better tomorrow :-)
[17:03] <CarstenG> Yes, I guess some typos...
[17:03] <godbyk> dsmythies: Btw, I kind of like the simplicity of this: https://wiki.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Tasks/DesktopHelp
[17:06] <CarstenG> Fortunately yesterday I downloaded all the po files from the doc. So I can compare it with the current version :-)
[17:06] <dsmythies> godbyk: Validation: I an do the syntax, orphans and dead link checks in 25 seconds. The script is takiing 3 minutes and  36 seconds. I'll do it again with verbose and observe what it is doing.
[17:07] <godbyk> dsmythies: Hmm.. that's quite a bit of a difference.
[17:07] <godbyk> dsmythies: One thing I'm doing differently than yelp-check is that I'm checking each file individually, but I wouldn't expect that to add so much overhead.
[17:15] <dsmythies> CarstenG: It was Gunnar that updated the .pot file and you should be O.K. to proceed.
[17:16] <dsmythies> godbyk: yes I like the gnome tasks page.
[19:45] <shaunm> hey all, I've set the dates for open help 2014. would be great to see some ubuntu faces again. http://openhelpconference.com/
[22:25] <bkerensa> godbyk: has anyone mailed the translations list to officially tell them they can begin translation?
[22:26] <godbyk> bkerensa: I haven't noticed such an email yet.
[22:26] <bkerensa> godbyk: we should send one
[22:26] <bkerensa> :D
[22:27] <godbyk> bkerensa: I think the latest pot is up on Rosetta/Launchpad now, so it should be safe to start translations.
[22:29] <godbyk> bkerensa: Btw, Gunnar has upload rights now, so we shouldn't have to worry about chasing down someone to upload our package.
[22:31] <godbyk> bkerensa: Oh, and I just saw an email exchange between Doug and Gunnar. They're on top of the translations mailing list. They're going to send an email once they've taken care of a couple odds and ends (e.g., waiting for the Launchpad to process the approval for the translation template).
[23:00] <belkinsa> I found this question interesting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202088/is-there-a-kind-of-ubuntu-wiki-sitemap-or-contents-index?atw=1  Someone is looking for a site map, maybe one should be created for the wiki?
[23:13] <bkerensa> godbyk: Yeah I saw that and talked to him