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AlanBellunopaste config list supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message00:00
unopasteAlanBell: #detection, #kickmessage, and #punishment00:00
AlanBellunopaste config supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message.detection00:00
unopasteAlanBell: Global: 6p12; #ubuntu-irc: 6p1200:00
AlanBellunopaste config supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message.punishment00:00
unopasteAlanBell: Global: umode+q; #ubuntu-irc: umode+q00:00
AlanBelllike that :)00:01
tewardAlanBell, where's the AttackProtector plugin from?00:01
tewardor is that proprietary to you guys (and maybe in the ubuntu-bots plugins repositories?)00:01
basketballAlanBell,  what other cool plugins do you have00:02
AlanBellhttps://github.com/AlanBell/Supybot-plugins00:02
AlanBellthat is forked from the main place00:02
basketballwhat do they do though00:02
basketballlike the weblogs on00:02
AlanBellthat is the only plugin turned on00:02
AlanBellI have no clue what the others do00:02
teward[2014/03/19 20:02:45] <unopaste> Admin, AttackProtector, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, and User  <-- AttackProtector's the only non-default plugin00:03
teward(the others are built-in)00:03
teward(thank god it's supy, otherwise that info would be hard to get)00:03
AlanBellit is a repository of lots of awesome stuff, I just forked it to patch the AttackProtector one00:03
basketballwhen trying trivia and weblogs i get Error: No module named i18n00:04
tewardbasketball, there's additional plugins you'll need to get working, but I think you need to take the discussion to a channel such as #botters for asking about supybot plugins, or maybe -offtopic ?00:05
teward(i18n usually means you're missing certain python plugins, lemme seek the package names)00:05
rww-offtopic would just abuse ubottu for a while or something00:05
tewardrww, so where should we help basketball with their (not Ubuntu IRC bot related) questions?00:05
basketballnot botters00:06
basketballand supybot is dead rightr now00:06
rww#botters or whatever support channel is appropriate for random supybot plugins, idk00:06
rww00:06:25 -!- Irssi: Ban against *!*@unaffiliated/harris matches basketball!~basketbal@unaffiliated/harris (Set by dwfreed!~dwfreed@encoded/developer/dwfreed)00:06
rwwheh.00:06
basketballwhat is that00:06
tewardthat's a ban on you apparently00:06
basketballfor what chan00:07
rwwthe reason why you don't want to chat in #botters, I guess P00:07
teward^ that00:07
teward... grrr, ASA firewalls are evilll00:07
teward(it's hating IRC)00:07
basketballmaybe i got banned idk i stoped because they were all smart asses00:07
tewardperhaps i should remind you this channel gets logged...00:08
teward(best to not do namecalling... it ends up on the public record)00:08
tewardAlanBell, mind if I poke you directly RE: the AttackProtector plugin?  got a few questions, if you don't mind answering them00:08
AlanBellyeah, but I might not answer them now, after midnight here and I have stuff to do still :)00:12
tewardheh00:13
rwwSorry, put this in the wrong channel:00:40
rww00:40:06 < rww> So this is not a directly relevant question but I'm interested in the responses: do we need more ops in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic?00:40
rwwAs in, do we have good or bad coverage in them, are ops getting burned out due to overwork, are there holes in availability, etc., etc.00:41
elkyi think -offtopic is fine now00:42
rwwi haven't seen much in the way of trolling there recently, though if i saw it it'd end so yeah00:43
rww#ubuntu has been getting a handful of ops calls a day, which is probably about normal for it. I think we could do with some more redundancy there though, and more trained catalyzers never hurts.00:44
rww(yes, I know you don't need to be an op to catalyze)00:44
elkyi'd say it'd be worth coaching some non-ops to see who actually catalyses and who snaps00:44
elkyand then consider if they should be opped00:44
rwwI keep leaning in the direction of "let's help the #ubuntu helpers a bit", but then I remember #ubuntu-irc-helpers...00:45
IdleOneI would like to volunteer for that coaching00:45
IdleOnegetting some, not giving.00:46
IdleOne:)00:46
rwwhihi chu, we're discussing whether we need more ops in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic00:46
rwwIdleOne: Yeah, I think there are a few of us on IRC Team who could do with catalyze training.00:46
rwwbecause we all have strengths, and for some of us that is not catalyzing00:47
rwwso if we do get something like that going for #ubuntu helpers, including IRC Team folks would be nice00:47
rwwthough if we all sign up for it who's going to do the coaching :P00:48
elkythe ex freenode staff00:48
rwwgood idea, let's get ldunn fired00:48
rwwhe can work with Fuchs!00:48
rwwcurrent staff would be interesting coaches though. Corey, ldunn, etc.00:50
AlanBellright, call for operators done, I think that is me done for the day00:52
AlanBellrww: there is a bit of conflict about the need for operators always00:53
AlanBellthere are always existing operators who say, we don't need anyone else, nobody else is qualified, we can handle it00:53
AlanBelland then there are always people who say the existing operators are burned out and we never do any recruitment and the queues are full of people who applied years ago and the IRCC failed to do anything about it00:54
AlanBellso, we decided that cadence was the word of the day00:54
elkyimho the main thing is making sure that the people who are opped have experience in the channels they're going to have ops in00:55
AlanBelland that we would try and do a fairly regular call for ops, in line with the cadence of the development cycle, if that resulted in no suitable ops then *fine*00:55
AlanBellbut we do it anyway00:55
churww: Personally, I don't know about more ops in #u-o, not really a high enough trafficed channel to worry.00:55
AlanBellif there are people who are being overlooked, then there shouldn't be, now is the time to nudge them00:55
elkyi think u-o is fine too, and the regulars generally stop crap before it stinks up too much00:56
elky#u could probably do with backup, but i'd prefer people opped there to have been active there00:57
AlanBellgot anyone in mind who needs nudging for it then?00:58
rwwAlanBell: Yep. I was interested in the question though, unrelated to whether or not we should be putting out a call for ops (I agree with the cadence idea).00:59
AlanBellany of the folk who pop into -ops or call the !ops trigger who really should be empowered to sort it out themselves?00:59
AlanBellrww: yeah, it is an interesting question :)01:00
IdleOneben64 seems to be a helpful and sane helper in #ubuntu. I have no idea if he is interested in being an op, but I would +1 him if he was01:00
AlanBellthat was one I had in mind too01:00
rwwi always get him mixed up with benonsoftware :c01:01
IdleOnethere are a couple of other good helpers but I don't think they are the op type01:01
rwwmainly because I only read the first three letters of nicks because well me01:01
IdleOne!canibeanop | basketball02:03
ubottubasketball: If you are interested in joining the Ubuntu IRC Team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.02:03
basketballi did how to i get to accepted on the launchpad02:04
IdleOnebut I don't think you're a good candidate for ops at this time. You should probably try helping out on irc for 6-8 months before applying02:04
chu60-80 months*02:04
* IdleOne takes chu's cookie away02:05
IdleOnebe helpful!02:05
basketballok thank you for your opinion i will not apply for op02:05
josecan we make !canihazop an alias for !canibeanop?02:10
IdleOnewe could, do we want to?02:10
joseI don02:11
jose't know...02:11
rww!icanhazop is <alias> canibeanop02:11
ubottuI'll remember that, rww02:11
rww!icanhazop? is <alias> canibeanop02:11
ubottuI'll remember that, rww02:11
rww!icanhazop?02:11
ubottuIf you are interested in joining the Ubuntu IRC Team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.02:11
rwwlolz it worked02:11
IdleOnerww should wikify that siltala post02:13
rwwno i shouldn't02:13
IdleOneyou are the best wikier of them all02:13
jose:P02:15
IdleOneor maybe it should be reposted on the ircc blog02:15
rwwmake a new announcement for this time around and link to that \o/02:16
joseI can wikify it if you guys want, all up to you02:16
Unit193"Updated" too.02:16
IdleOnejose: anybody but me would be good :)02:17
jose:P02:17
IdleOnewell, almost anybody02:17
joselet me know if you want it wikified and it'll be on my to-do list02:17
IdleOneno rush, but if you are up for it that would be cool02:18
* jose adds card to trello02:18
basketballdid AlanBell  add the factoids from todays meeting02:18
rwwthe stuff that was emailed has already been actioned, yes02:19
IdleOnehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2014-March/001686.html02:21
basketballrww,  or IdleOne  you should add a factiod about grammer and spelling02:31
basketballand he didnt fix it because02:33
basketball! ask02:33
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:33
basketball! language02:33
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:33
joseIdleOne: how does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/LaunchpadOperatorApplication look?02:48
phunyguythose factoids seem fixed to me, unless I am missing something02:49
IdleOnethey are fixed if you read the entire email02:50
IdleOneotherwise confusion much make02:50
IdleOnejose: looks great02:51
josecool02:51
IdleOne!no canibeanop is <reply>If you are interested in joining the Ubuntu IRC Team, take a look at both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/LaunchpadOperatorApplication and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.02:54
ubottuI'll remember that IdleOne02:54
IdleOnethank you jose :)02:54
josesure, np :)02:54
joseif there's anything else I can help with just ping me02:54
IdleOneyes, I haven't had good paella in 7 years02:57
IdleOnehehe :)02:57
jose:P02:58
josewell, if physical udss are re-taken and there's one in Spain, I'll make sure you get some :P02:59
IdleOneI'll make sure to be there02:59
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