[00:00] <AlanBell> unopaste config list supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message
[00:00] <unopaste> AlanBell: #detection, #kickmessage, and #punishment
[00:00] <AlanBell> unopaste config supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message.detection
[00:00] <unopaste> AlanBell: Global: 6p12; #ubuntu-irc: 6p12
[00:00] <AlanBell> unopaste config supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message.punishment
[00:00] <unopaste> AlanBell: Global: umode+q; #ubuntu-irc: umode+q
[00:01] <AlanBell> like that :)
[00:01] <teward> AlanBell, where's the AttackProtector plugin from?
[00:01] <teward> or is that proprietary to you guys (and maybe in the ubuntu-bots plugins repositories?)
[00:02] <basketball> AlanBell,  what other cool plugins do you have
[00:02] <AlanBell> https://github.com/AlanBell/Supybot-plugins
[00:02] <AlanBell> that is forked from the main place
[00:02] <basketball> what do they do though
[00:02] <basketball> like the weblogs on
[00:02] <AlanBell> that is the only plugin turned on
[00:02] <AlanBell> I have no clue what the others do
[00:03] <teward> [2014/03/19 20:02:45] <unopaste> Admin, AttackProtector, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, and User  <-- AttackProtector's the only non-default plugin
[00:03] <teward> (the others are built-in)
[00:03] <teward> (thank god it's supy, otherwise that info would be hard to get)
[00:03] <AlanBell> it is a repository of lots of awesome stuff, I just forked it to patch the AttackProtector one
[00:04] <basketball> when trying trivia and weblogs i get Error: No module named i18n
[00:05] <teward> basketball, there's additional plugins you'll need to get working, but I think you need to take the discussion to a channel such as #botters for asking about supybot plugins, or maybe -offtopic ?
[00:05] <teward> (i18n usually means you're missing certain python plugins, lemme seek the package names)
[00:05] <rww> -offtopic would just abuse ubottu for a while or something
[00:05] <teward> rww, so where should we help basketball with their (not Ubuntu IRC bot related) questions?
[00:06] <basketball> not botters
[00:06] <basketball> and supybot is dead rightr now
[00:06] <rww> #botters or whatever support channel is appropriate for random supybot plugins, idk
[00:06] <rww> 00:06:25 -!- Irssi: Ban against *!*@unaffiliated/harris matches basketball!~basketbal@unaffiliated/harris (Set by dwfreed!~dwfreed@encoded/developer/dwfreed)
[00:06] <rww> heh.
[00:06] <basketball> what is that
[00:06] <teward> that's a ban on you apparently
[00:07] <basketball> for what chan
[00:07] <rww> the reason why you don't want to chat in #botters, I guess P
[00:07] <teward> ^ that
[00:07] <teward> ... grrr, ASA firewalls are evilll
[00:07] <teward> (it's hating IRC)
[00:07] <basketball> maybe i got banned idk i stoped because they were all smart asses
[00:08] <teward> perhaps i should remind you this channel gets logged...
[00:08] <teward> (best to not do namecalling... it ends up on the public record)
[00:08] <teward> AlanBell, mind if I poke you directly RE: the AttackProtector plugin?  got a few questions, if you don't mind answering them
[00:12] <AlanBell> yeah, but I might not answer them now, after midnight here and I have stuff to do still :)
[00:13] <teward> heh
[00:40] <rww> Sorry, put this in the wrong channel:
[00:40] <rww> 00:40:06 < rww> So this is not a directly relevant question but I'm interested in the responses: do we need more ops in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:41] <rww> As in, do we have good or bad coverage in them, are ops getting burned out due to overwork, are there holes in availability, etc., etc.
[00:42] <elky> i think -offtopic is fine now
[00:43] <rww> i haven't seen much in the way of trolling there recently, though if i saw it it'd end so yeah
[00:44] <rww> #ubuntu has been getting a handful of ops calls a day, which is probably about normal for it. I think we could do with some more redundancy there though, and more trained catalyzers never hurts.
[00:44] <rww> (yes, I know you don't need to be an op to catalyze)
[00:44] <elky> i'd say it'd be worth coaching some non-ops to see who actually catalyses and who snaps
[00:44] <elky> and then consider if they should be opped
[00:45] <rww> I keep leaning in the direction of "let's help the #ubuntu helpers a bit", but then I remember #ubuntu-irc-helpers...
[00:45] <IdleOne> I would like to volunteer for that coaching
[00:46] <IdleOne> getting some, not giving.
[00:46] <IdleOne> :)
[00:46] <rww> hihi chu, we're discussing whether we need more ops in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:46] <rww> IdleOne: Yeah, I think there are a few of us on IRC Team who could do with catalyze training.
[00:47] <rww> because we all have strengths, and for some of us that is not catalyzing
[00:47] <rww> so if we do get something like that going for #ubuntu helpers, including IRC Team folks would be nice
[00:48] <rww> though if we all sign up for it who's going to do the coaching :P
[00:48] <elky> the ex freenode staff
[00:48] <rww> good idea, let's get ldunn fired
[00:48] <rww> he can work with Fuchs!
[00:50] <rww> current staff would be interesting coaches though. Corey, ldunn, etc.
[00:52] <AlanBell> right, call for operators done, I think that is me done for the day
[00:53] <AlanBell> rww: there is a bit of conflict about the need for operators always
[00:53] <AlanBell> there are always existing operators who say, we don't need anyone else, nobody else is qualified, we can handle it
[00:54] <AlanBell> and then there are always people who say the existing operators are burned out and we never do any recruitment and the queues are full of people who applied years ago and the IRCC failed to do anything about it
[00:54] <AlanBell> so, we decided that cadence was the word of the day
[00:55] <elky> imho the main thing is making sure that the people who are opped have experience in the channels they're going to have ops in
[00:55] <AlanBell> and that we would try and do a fairly regular call for ops, in line with the cadence of the development cycle, if that resulted in no suitable ops then *fine*
[00:55] <AlanBell> but we do it anyway
[00:55] <chu> rww: Personally, I don't know about more ops in #u-o, not really a high enough trafficed channel to worry.
[00:55] <AlanBell> if there are people who are being overlooked, then there shouldn't be, now is the time to nudge them
[00:56] <elky> i think u-o is fine too, and the regulars generally stop crap before it stinks up too much
[00:57] <elky> #u could probably do with backup, but i'd prefer people opped there to have been active there
[00:58] <AlanBell> got anyone in mind who needs nudging for it then?
[00:59] <rww> AlanBell: Yep. I was interested in the question though, unrelated to whether or not we should be putting out a call for ops (I agree with the cadence idea).
[00:59] <AlanBell> any of the folk who pop into -ops or call the !ops trigger who really should be empowered to sort it out themselves?
[01:00] <AlanBell> rww: yeah, it is an interesting question :)
[01:00] <IdleOne> ben64 seems to be a helpful and sane helper in #ubuntu. I have no idea if he is interested in being an op, but I would +1 him if he was
[01:00] <AlanBell> that was one I had in mind too
[01:01] <rww> i always get him mixed up with benonsoftware :c
[01:01] <IdleOne> there are a couple of other good helpers but I don't think they are the op type
[01:01] <rww> mainly because I only read the first three letters of nicks because well me
[02:03] <IdleOne> !canibeanop | basketball
[02:04] <basketball> i did how to i get to accepted on the launchpad
[02:04] <IdleOne> but I don't think you're a good candidate for ops at this time. You should probably try helping out on irc for 6-8 months before applying
[02:04] <chu> 60-80 months*
[02:05]  * IdleOne takes chu's cookie away
[02:05] <IdleOne> be helpful!
[02:05] <basketball> ok thank you for your opinion i will not apply for op
[02:10] <jose> can we make !canihazop an alias for !canibeanop?
[02:10] <IdleOne> we could, do we want to?
[02:11] <jose> I don
[02:11] <jose> 't know...
[02:11] <rww> !icanhazop is <alias> canibeanop
[02:11] <rww> !icanhazop? is <alias> canibeanop
[02:11] <rww> !icanhazop?
[02:11] <rww> lolz it worked
[02:13] <IdleOne> rww should wikify that siltala post
[02:13] <rww> no i shouldn't
[02:13] <IdleOne> you are the best wikier of them all
[02:15] <jose> :P
[02:15] <IdleOne> or maybe it should be reposted on the ircc blog
[02:16] <rww> make a new announcement for this time around and link to that \o/
[02:16] <jose> I can wikify it if you guys want, all up to you
[02:16] <Unit193> "Updated" too.
[02:17] <IdleOne> jose: anybody but me would be good :)
[02:17] <jose> :P
[02:17] <IdleOne> well, almost anybody
[02:17] <jose> let me know if you want it wikified and it'll be on my to-do list
[02:18] <IdleOne> no rush, but if you are up for it that would be cool
[02:18]  * jose adds card to trello
[02:18] <basketball> did AlanBell  add the factoids from todays meeting
[02:19] <rww> the stuff that was emailed has already been actioned, yes
[02:21] <IdleOne> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2014-March/001686.html
[02:31] <basketball> rww,  or IdleOne  you should add a factiod about grammer and spelling
[02:33] <basketball> and he didnt fix it because
[02:33] <basketball> ! ask
[02:33] <basketball> ! language
[02:48] <jose> IdleOne: how does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/LaunchpadOperatorApplication look?
[02:49] <phunyguy> those factoids seem fixed to me, unless I am missing something
[02:50] <IdleOne> they are fixed if you read the entire email
[02:50] <IdleOne> otherwise confusion much make
[02:51] <IdleOne> jose: looks great
[02:51] <jose> cool
[02:54] <IdleOne> !no canibeanop is <reply>If you are interested in joining the Ubuntu IRC Team, take a look at both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/LaunchpadOperatorApplication and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.
[02:54] <IdleOne> thank you jose :)
[02:54] <jose> sure, np :)
[02:54] <jose> if there's anything else I can help with just ping me
[02:57] <IdleOne> yes, I haven't had good paella in 7 years
[02:57] <IdleOne> hehe :)
[02:58] <jose> :P
[02:59] <jose> well, if physical udss are re-taken and there's one in Spain, I'll make sure you get some :P
[02:59] <IdleOne> I'll make sure to be there
[06:38] <MooDoo> hello all
[14:54] <MooDoo> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/