[00:21] <directhex> UE4 has an asset store
[00:21] <directhex> i hate to use the word "doomed", but unity3d might be doomed
[00:30] <daftykins> directhex: oh?
[06:38] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:46] <Myrtti> moin
[06:47] <MooDoo> :)
[08:20] <diplo> Morning all
[08:20] <MooDoo> morning diplo
[08:24] <popey> pip pip
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning popey
[08:56] <DJones> Beating JamesTait, Happy "International Day of Happiness"
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> DJones: Why are you beating JamesTait? That's not a happy thing!
[08:58] <DJones> Ah well, there goes the happiness
[09:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy World Storytelling Day! :-D
[09:36]  * JamesTait forgives DJones.
[09:37] <DJones> Much appreciated
[09:39] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:47] <MooDoo> morning
[10:05] <bigcalm> Rackspace cloud server is not responding to http or ssh. Is there anything I can do before just rebooting it?
[10:05] <MooDoo> ping?
[10:06] <MooDoo> do you have console access to it?
[10:06] <bigcalm> Humm
[10:06] <bigcalm> I've just managed to ssh into it from another one of our cloud servers
[10:07] <bigcalm> Now trying to ssh out of the server
[10:07] <bigcalm> Yeah, can't ssh out
[10:08] <bigcalm> So the local network is working
[10:08] <bigcalm> Looking at /sbin/ifconfig, the public ip address is up on eth0
[10:09] <bigcalm> Is it ifup and ifdown to tinker with an interface?
[10:10] <MooDoo> what flavour?  centos?
[10:11] <MooDoo> ubuntu?
[10:11] <foobarry> service network restart if you have ilom access.
[10:13] <bigcalm> MooDoo: Debian something
[10:13] <bigcalm> I've down ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 - still not accessable externally
[10:14] <bigcalm> About to reboot and then get on to Rackspace support
[10:14] <bigcalm> Apparently this has happened before
[10:20] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:21] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon how are you this fine day?
[10:21] <MooDoo> bigcalm: sweet talk SuperMatt to take a look for you ;)
[10:22] <MartijnVdS> yeah, blame SuperMatt
[10:22] <brobostigon> mot bad MooDoo and you?
[10:23] <MooDoo> brobostigon: yeah ok thank, was in a ubuntu irc ops meeting last night and my brain is still mush :)
[10:23] <MooDoo> I blame AlanBell
[10:23] <brobostigon> mush, oh dear.
[10:23] <brobostigon> lol
[10:26] <bigcalm> Rebooting the cloud server has fixed it
[10:26] <bigcalm> This happening once might be dismissed. But twice in 3 days isn't good
[10:27] <bigcalm> MooDoo & MartijnVdS: I promised SuperMatt that I wouldn't talk to him about RS ;)
[10:27] <bigcalm> Oh, in case this is of interest to anybody who has missed our so far...
[10:27] <bigcalm> !rat
[10:28] <bashrc> morning
[10:28] <bigcalm> 7 peeps confirmed so far. Will be fun
[10:29] <bashrc> ale + trains + ubuntu.  What could go wrong?
[10:29] <bigcalm> And the public network connectivity has gone away again. Grr
[10:29] <MooDoo> bashrc: drinking too much then being sick over your laptop
[10:30] <MooDoo> bigcalm: are you sure it's not just user error?
[10:30] <MooDoo> ;)
[10:33] <bigcalm> Humf
[10:50] <bigcalm> multitail isn't showing mad traffic
[10:54] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: is anyone looking at #1292069? :)
[10:55] <bigcalm> bug 1292069 ?
[10:55] <bigcalm> Rackspace's hold music is quite funky
[11:08] <bigcalm> multitail is cool!
[11:10] <bashrc> upgraded the server to kernel 3.13
[11:16] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:16] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[11:17] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: it looks like there was let me have a word latter
[11:17] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka how was your day in the end?
[11:18] <MooDoo> davmor2: ok till i went to the irc operators meeting, wow they work hard and fast lol
[11:19] <davmor2> MooDoo: you saying you don't work hard and fast normally?
[11:26] <MooDoo> davmor2: I've got two speeds slow and stop
[11:27] <bigcalm> Does anybody have a very simple script to check a website is accessible and email when it isn't?
[11:27] <diplo> I use Nagios to monitor ours, but probably had something in the past
[11:28] <diplo> Could use a simple bash to telnet to 80 and mail on fail ? or wget or something along those lines
[11:28] <bigcalm> diplo: that's what I was thinking. I don't have time to set up full monitoring. Just need something simple :)
[11:29] <bigcalm> http://www.howtoforge.com/simple-bash-script-to-monitor-your-webserver-remotely-on-different-ports for example
[11:30] <diplo> Pretty much what I was thinking in my head, albeit not so complex
[11:30] <diplo> :P
[11:31] <bigcalm> It does look a tiny bit ott
[11:31] <diplo> Don't RS offer some sort of monitoring ? Sure bitfolk had some nagios stuff
[11:31] <bigcalm> At a cost, sure
[11:31] <diplo> Well you could remove half the code and just have http
[11:31] <bigcalm> Yep
[11:32] <diplo> I think I got fedup maintaining different scripts and installed nagios from repos and had a basic setup 20 mins later
[11:32] <diplo> And it's advanced since then
[11:38] <davmor2> bigcalm: you could use selenium simple test and python and cron I gues
[11:38] <davmor2> s
[11:42] <bigcalm> Test in place, back to work I go
[11:57] <DJones> Hmmh, searching on google for a information about medical relapses brings up "Where to buy viagra in Kenya".... Seems an odd link
[12:24] <jussi> DJones: one day you will realise there are many odd things on the interwebs...
[12:25] <DJones> jussi: This is very true, where would the internet be without cat pictures
[12:26] <jussi> DJones: horrible thought, please dont mention it again :P
[13:22] <mapps> damn it's so windy and cold
[13:22] <mapps> when does 'summer' start
[13:22] <awilkins> Anyone know a way to get Git to calculate the hash of a tree that isn't in a git repo?
[13:23] <awilkins> You can do individual files
[13:23] <awilkins> git hash-object
[13:23] <MartijnVdS> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7225313/how-does-git-compute-file-hashes
[14:54] <MooDoo> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[14:54] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: hello!
[14:54] <MartijnVdS> ooo
[14:54] <MartijnVdS> oo
[14:54] <MartijnVdS> o
[14:54] <MartijnVdS> .
[14:54] <brobostigon> coffee@popey.com
[14:55] <MooDoo> thought i was the only one here ;)
[14:56] <brobostigon> coffee@brobostigon.planet
[14:56] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: there's always SOMEONE watching
[14:56] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: coffee@brobostigon.sexy?
[14:56] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: i doubt it.
[14:59] <davmor2> MooDoo: you are the rest of us are in the matrix
[15:00] <MooDoo> davmor2: shush there can be only one
[15:00] <davmor2> MooDoo: wrong film that's the Highlander you fool :P
[15:00] <MooDoo> I know just shking it up a bit :D
[15:01] <MooDoo> gonna take the blue pill after i've chopped a few heads
[15:02]  * davmor2 paints a red pill blue and laughs all the way to bank
[15:05]  * davmor2 watches MooDoo run from agent smith for the rest of the day
[15:05] <MooDoo> yeeeehah
[15:07] <brobostigon> lol
[15:12] <Myrtti> http://www.mobilelinuxnews.com/2014/03/tech-meetup-london-uk-21th-march-jolla-tizen-ubuntu-firefoxos-meego/
[15:17] <popey> ooh
[15:17] <popey> i might go to that and "represent"
[15:24]  * davmor2 pictures popey in a back to front cap, big gold chain and rings, with a blinin' tooth when he says "Representin'"
[15:24] <davmor2> Respec to da popey
[15:49] <mapps> hm
[15:49] <davmor2> mapps: hummmm
[15:51] <mapps> its raining :(
[15:51] <mapps> was just hmming about that
[16:21] <Hornet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7125985/ am I missing something here - grub just sits there awaiting manual selection rather than automatically booting the first entry?
[16:21] <Hornet> need a sanity check
[16:27] <mapps> yea i had the same too, had to add a line in to fix it
[16:28] <mapps> GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT="5"
[16:28] <mapps>  was what fixed it for me
[16:28] <Hornet> can't recall that in the docs
[16:28] <Hornet> sec
[16:33] <mapps> yea its not mentioned someone here gave me a url with it
[16:33] <mapps> sec
[16:34] <Hornet> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[16:34] <Hornet> yeah, it's not there
[16:34] <mapps> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55551/how-can-i-force-ubuntu-to-boot-on-a-stuck-boot-menu
[16:34] <mapps> GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[16:34] <mapps> The fact that such option is completely undocumented is just too bad.
[16:34] <Hornet> ...wonderful
[16:35] <Hornet> well, added, will reboot and see what breaks
[16:35] <Hornet> thanks, brb
[16:35] <czajkowski> bigcalm: popey RAT tickets arrived :)
[16:36] <popey> yay
[16:37] <bigcalm> czajkowski: woo! glad you are joining us this year :)
[16:37] <Hornet> mapps: no change
[16:37] <bigcalm> popey: whom else came last year that might need reminding?
[16:37] <Hornet> still waits for user input
[16:38] <Hornet> and yes I updated grub
[16:38] <czajkowski> bigcalm: as long as no events get in the way I am
[16:38] <popey> bigcalm: i have told them
[16:38] <bigcalm> popey: oh, okay :)
[16:38] <bigcalm> czajkowski: I hope you keep your health as well!
[16:38] <popey> and again
[16:38] <bigcalm> czajkowski: in general, I hope you keep your health anyway :)
[16:38] <czajkowski> bigcalm: there is that :)
[16:38] <czajkowski> bigcalm: been rather sick since last week, so need some sunshine :)
[16:39] <czajkowski> I figure after conference season so September I should be good to go on hols :p
[16:39] <czajkowski> currently running 18 large events all over EMEA between 1st april and November 1st
[16:40] <bigcalm> It's a good job Hayley and I have our curse pre-booked and paid for already. There's no way I could see how I would squeeze it in this year otherwise
[16:40] <czajkowski> curse?
[16:40] <czajkowski> cruise?
[16:40] <bigcalm> The latter :)
[16:40] <popey> Going on a 2 week curse
[16:40] <czajkowski> some people do curse holidays so you never know
[16:40] <popey> sounds like UDS :D
[16:40] <bigcalm> Hehe
[16:40]  * czajkowski is meant to be going on a cruise 
[16:40] <czajkowski> need to A_ find the time B) narrow down location
[16:40] <bigcalm> A week in the Norwegian Fjords
[16:41] <popey> B) The sea.
[16:41] <popey> my mum did that
[16:41] <popey> she loves norway
[16:41] <popey> her friend got very very very ill though
[16:41] <czajkowski> :(
[16:41] <popey> and came away with a 3K bill
[16:41] <bigcalm> Ouch
[16:41] <czajkowski> :o
[16:41] <popey> indeed
[16:41] <popey> not covered by insurance when at sea
[16:41] <czajkowski> ohhh not good
[16:41] <Hornet> if it's from another country then just don't pay?
[16:41] <Hornet> debt is a civil matter
[16:41] <bigcalm> We've gone for a completely pre-paid package, including drinks. Really hope there are no further expenses
[16:45] <popey> yeah, this was pre-paid too
[16:46] <popey> Hornet: they demanded the money on the boat
[16:46] <bigcalm> Ah, so the ill wasn't drunk ill. It was a medical matter that cost 3K
[16:46] <popey> yes
[16:46] <popey> 3K maybe over the top, might have been less than that
[16:46] <popey> cant remember
[16:46] <bigcalm> Even so
[16:53] <foobarry> was it a cruise?
[16:53] <foobarry> floating disease ships
[16:53] <foobarry> ah, read the scrollback
[17:05] <Hornet> popey: and they had 3k cash on them?!
[17:07] <popey> no
[17:21] <maps|wrk> hai
[19:49] <diddledan> bah @ crashing mac
[19:49] <diddledan> it done reboobed itself 'cos it kernel-paniced
[19:50] <maps|wrk> youve got a mac?
[19:50] <maps|wrk> :)
[19:50] <diddledan> yeah
[19:53] <diddledan> what the frak? http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Mar/332
[20:18] <daftykins> diddledan: indeed :( i read about that'un
[20:18] <diddledan> sucks
[20:22] <maps|wrk> sfw?
[20:23] <diddledan> sfw!
[20:24] <diddledan> maps|wrk: alternatively http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/19/full_disclosure_closes/
[20:27] <maps|wrk> just read - what was it? a list - how do you use lists? i come across them for various google searches linux related.
[20:27] <maps|wrk> but like how would you stay on top of it? or do you just have to know to check the list
[20:30] <diddledan> it's an email mailing list - you subscribe to the list and it emails you whenever anyone emails the list address
[20:31] <diddledan> whatever is sent to the mailing list email address is copied to each subscriber
[20:32] <daftykins> they always seemed like a good way to get very frustrated, to me XD
[20:32] <maps|wrk> ah but if you subscribed to a busy list wouldnt u get loads of emails?
[20:33] <diddledan> bingo
[20:33] <maps|wrk> heh
[20:33] <diddledan> most mailing list software can allow the subscriber to choose between email-for-email or daily-digest
[20:33] <diddledan> or turn off delivery altogether
[20:35] <diddledan> for further reading try ezmlm, mailman or majordomo - three different opensource mailing list manager software
[20:55] <maps|wrk> il have a look later, i hate it when i start getting too many emails..boring daily emails from zdnet/cnet etc
[20:55] <maps|wrk> then all the spam too ugh
[21:11] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:12] <daftykins> morning!?
[21:13] <bigcalm> I like it as my default greeting :)
[21:13] <diddledan> morning
[21:15] <bigcalm> Are you sure?
[21:25] <popey> hello bigcalm
[21:25] <popey> have you ever played openspades?
[21:25] <bigcalm> popey: can't say that I have
[21:25] <popey> you should, it's hilarious
[21:25] <bigcalm> I should look at installing this things
[21:25] <bigcalm> -s
[21:25] <popey> get wine, and the windows version
[21:25] <popey> it works really nicely
[21:29] <diddledan> why does my galaxy nexus insist on telling me that there's an update available for image 188 when I've already got image 188 installed?!
[21:30] <bigcalm> popey: okay, do you have a server running?
[21:30]  * bigcalm looks at playing locally 1st
[21:30] <popey> ooh
[21:30] <maps|wrk> the ubuntu uk site mentions happy hour and how it was meant to be a monthly thing , what happened to that? ;/
[21:31] <popey> people stopped organising them
[21:31] <popey> bigcalm: i will jump on a low-user server for now...
[21:31] <diddledan> happy hour?
[21:31] <diddledan> whassat?
[21:31] <popey> bigcalm: mcp-uk aos server #2
[21:31] <popey> has 0 users
[21:31]  * bigcalm searches
[21:31] <maps|wrk> diddledan:  http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/
[21:32] <diddledan> aah. shame it stopped
[21:37] <ali1234> can you join the AA if you don't have a car?
[21:40] <maps|wrk> why would you want to
[21:41] <ali1234> because they have a policy that covers you as a passenger in any vehicle
[21:42] <popey> bigcalm: you still in the game?
[21:44] <bigcalm> popey: yes
[21:44] <popey> i got disconnected
[21:44] <bigcalm> Arse
[21:44] <popey> bigcalm: join MCP-UK AoS server #1 hallway 24/7
[21:44] <popey> its fun
[21:44] <bigcalm> I was stuck in the river, making my way to you
[21:44] <bigcalm> Okay
[21:49] <popey> bah, i suck at that game ☻
[21:53] <diddledan> omg, chromecast is available in blighty! http://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/chrome/devices/chromecast/index.html
[21:56] <bigcalm> popey: that was fun indeed
[22:00] <daftykins> i noticed the other day my Nexus 4's YouTube app has a 'pair with your TV' option that lets you remotely play things onto it :O
[22:00] <daftykins> (smart TV with a YouTube app built-in/installable)
[22:03]  * bigcalm forces himself to listen to his boss' podcast and tries not to fall asleep
[22:03] <popey> daftykins: yeah, i paired my devices and laptop with my xbox 360
[22:03] <popey> not got a "smart" tv
[22:04] <daftykins> :)
[22:04] <daftykins> my 360 is quite loud at idle in my setup :(
[22:04] <daftykins> that thing can't powergate either so it's running 100% all the time
[22:07] <bigcalm> Playing podcasts faster in vlc sounds weird
[22:07] <bigcalm> What do peeps uses to listen to podcasts at faster than normal rate?
[22:09] <bigcalm> Might get used to it actually. Voices sound normal, just quicker
[22:12] <popey> i used to listen on my iphone quite a bit
[22:12] <popey> at 2x speed
[22:14] <maps|wrk> bigcalm:  why do you want to listen quicker than normal? super slow speaker or something?!
[22:15] <bigcalm> maps|wrk: content I'm not really that interested in but feel I should listen to
[22:26] <popey> maps|wrk: consumes half the time of course
[22:28] <maps|wrk> what podcasts do you all follow?
[22:29] <popey> i dont much anymore
[23:19] <maps|wrk> hmm
[23:19] <maps|wrk> bored bored bored
[23:19] <maps|wrk> been reading stuff off the IBM developer zone
[23:51] <maps|wrk_> hm
[23:51] <maps|wrk_> seem to have lost the other client
[23:53] <diddledan> buggerance
[23:53] <diddledan> sorry, family friendly!
[23:53]  * diddledan self-censures
[23:57] <daftykins> get the sedative...
[23:57] <maps|wrk_> oh now everyone wakes up
[23:57] <maps|wrk_> hi diddledan
[23:58] <maps|wrk_> hi daftykins
[23:58] <daftykins> hehe
[23:58] <daftykins> my battery is gone actually
[23:58] <daftykins> seconds from death
[23:59] <maps|wrk_> plug it in?!:)