| bluesabre | sounds like you guys are in need of somebody else! | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | like bluesabre? | 00:26 |
| knome | ooh ooh! | 00:26 |
| bluesabre | :O | 00:26 |
| knome | bluesabre, seriously, if you could go through that... | 00:26 |
| bluesabre | provide links to the things that need package | 00:26 |
| knome | lp:xubuntu-docs | 00:26 |
| bluesabre | and I will get to them tonight/tomorrow | 00:26 |
| bluesabre | I hope this is similar to previous xubuntu-docs packaging | 00:27 |
| bluesabre | I'll whine if not | 00:27 |
| bluesabre | bbabl | 00:27 |
| knome | shouldn't be too different... | 00:27 |
| knome | Unit193, hmm. | 00:28 |
| knome | Unit193, startpage broken | 00:28 |
| knome | Unit193, do we expect some other directory structure? | 00:28 |
| knome | Unit193, doesn't look like we do | 00:28 |
| knome | Unit193, main Makefile, line 24: | 00:31 |
| knome | ../$$lang/index.html | 00:31 |
| knome | Unit193, line 21: | 00:31 |
| knome | only copies *.css, should copy *.css and *.png | 00:32 |
| knome | or the .htx file should point to ../desktop-guide/logo.png | 00:32 |
| arrith | the kernel freeze is coming up and i would like to help fix Bug #1287966: "DisplayLink USB Graphics not supported by Ubuntu Kernel" before it passes, or find out that it's no longer a bug. the bug link is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-saucy/+bug/1287966 (and a related blog post: http://plugable.com/2014/03/06/displaylink-usb-2-0-graphics-adapters-on-linux-2014-edition ). | 00:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1287966 in linux-lts-saucy (Ubuntu) "DisplayLink USB Graphics not supported by Ubuntu Kernel" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:33 |
| arrith | any thoughts on if would it be better to post about investigation into that on a bug, on the ubuntu kernel mailing list, in the ubuntu kernel irc channel, or somewhere else? | 00:33 |
| knome | arrith, both. | 00:34 |
| knome | Unit193, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/docs.diff.txt | 00:42 |
| Unit193 | Oh? | 00:42 |
| knome | yeah | 00:42 |
| knome | links point to about/fi | 00:42 |
| knome | and logo is not visible | 00:42 |
| knome | i guess it was a wise move to do the test-build now... | 00:43 |
| knome | those changes fix it for me | 00:43 |
| knome | want to review? :) | 00:43 |
| knome | (try building it yourself!) | 00:43 |
| Unit193 | Trying latest trunk first. | 00:44 |
| knome | yep. | 00:44 |
| Unit193 | Right, works for me because I was expecting, and working with, a different structure. | 00:46 |
| knome | aha :) | 00:46 |
| Unit193 | So, good catch I suppose, means more work for me. :P | 00:46 |
| knome | how so? | 00:47 |
| knome | the fix is in trunk | 00:48 |
| knome | please double-check it works | 00:48 |
| knome | ..aaaand i pushed an updated translation template as well | 00:50 |
| Unit193 | We could just make the structure match mine. :D | 00:53 |
| knome | a bit late for that, and why at this point? | 00:53 |
| knome | why didn't you do that earlier, that is? | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | Well, there's a structure now and it seems to work for the installed docs well enough, it just doesn't work at all for what I do, simple as that. | 01:13 |
| knome | mhm | 01:13 |
| knome | so what do you do? | 01:13 |
| Unit193 | I want it all under one dir, and have xubuntu-index the first thing seen. This means moving it and renaming it. | 01:15 |
| knome | yeah... that sounds somewhat logical | 01:15 |
| knome | we can do that for 14.04.1 | 01:15 |
| knome | or sth... | 01:15 |
| Unit193 | So I have a sed on that, adding the revno (would "upstream" that), and removing the hardcoded path to the desktop-guide. | 01:16 |
| Unit193 | s/would/wouldn't/ | 01:19 |
| knome | ochosi, hmm, parts of light-locker lock screen is not translated | 01:21 |
| knome | ochosi, are we just lagging behind on getting stuff up? | 01:21 |
| ochosi | we didn't have too many complete languages for it | 01:21 |
| knome | finnish? | 01:22 |
| knome | i mean, | 01:22 |
| ochosi | luckily the lockscreen of light-locker shouldn't be visible too much | 01:22 |
| knome | i see "Unlock" | 01:22 |
| knome | what? i've surely translated that. | 01:22 |
| ochosi | err, are you referring to lightdm-gtk-greeter maybe? | 01:22 |
| knome | possibly that. | 01:22 |
| knome | what ever is presented when i'm trying to unlock the screen ;) | 01:22 |
| ochosi | heh, yeah, that's the greeter | 01:23 |
| ochosi | no idea what the status is on translations there | 01:23 |
| knome | tbh, i'm a bit loss with all these different light-locker projects... | 01:23 |
| knome | itself, -greeter, -settings, what else | 01:23 |
| knome | :P | 01:23 |
| ochosi | there is: | 01:23 |
| ochosi | lightdm | 01:23 |
| ochosi | lightdm-gtk-greeter | 01:23 |
| ochosi | lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings | 01:23 |
| ochosi | light-locker | 01:23 |
| ochosi | light-locker-settings | 01:23 |
| knome | >___< | 01:24 |
| ochosi | now everything should be clear, right? :> | 01:24 |
| knome | where do i translate the greeter? | 01:24 |
| ochosi | https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter | 01:24 |
| knome | hmm hmm | 01:24 |
| ochosi | finnish has quite a few missing and a few more that need review | 01:24 |
| knome | yeah WEEEEIRD | 01:25 |
| knome | context: Other | 01:25 |
| knome | %d is integer? | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | knome: So you still think those sound sane? :P | 01:26 |
| knome | which? | 01:26 |
| ochosi | yup, %d is integer | 01:27 |
| knome | cool | 01:27 |
| knome | had a wrong translation there | 01:27 |
| knome | and what was the content for "Other"? | 01:28 |
| knome | hmm, wait! | 01:28 |
| knome | WAIT! | 01:28 |
| knome | that's translated | 01:28 |
| knome | huh? | 01:29 |
| knome | i shouldn't work on FOSS stuff at 3am, i get confused | 01:30 |
| knome | where's light-locker translated? | 01:33 |
| knome | oh wait | 01:33 |
| knome | transifex | 01:33 |
| knome | mmmh | 01:33 |
| Unit193 | Don't like that one? | 01:34 |
| knome | well no, | 01:34 |
| knome | but that's hardly a problem | 01:34 |
| knome | since i have an account | 01:34 |
| knome | and it's 100% translated | 01:34 |
| knome | eh, funny? | 01:40 |
| knome | Default display manager | 01:40 |
| knome | == Oletusnäytönhallintasovellus | 01:40 |
| knome | that'll do... | 01:40 |
| knome | where does one find l-g-g-s ? | 01:42 |
| knome | ochosi, ^ | 01:42 |
| knome | hmm, i found a bug in whiskermenu... | 01:43 |
| knome | not sure if it only affects vbox installations thought | 01:44 |
| knome | -t | 01:44 |
| ochosi | knome: stuff from the settings-manager can't be found in any menus | 01:49 |
| ochosi | appfinder too | 01:49 |
| knome | no | 01:49 |
| knome | that's not the bug | 01:49 |
| knome | the bug is: | 01:49 |
| knome | open a category that has so many items that they will need a scrollbar | 01:50 |
| knome | scroll fast back and forth | 01:50 |
| knome | at some point, the workspace switches | 01:50 |
| ochosi | aha | 01:50 |
| bluesabre | knome... so the docs are not ready to be packaged then? | 01:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, they are | 01:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, i just dropped in the needed changes | 01:51 |
| bluesabre | are you suuuuure? :] | 01:52 |
| knome | yes. | 01:52 |
| * bluesabre starts packaging | 01:53 | |
| Unit193 | bluesabre, knome: Don't you want to wait for translations to land? :D | 01:56 |
| knome | Unit193, no, they should land at translation deadlines | 01:56 |
| * bluesabre stops packaging | 01:56 | |
| knome | we need another upload then | 01:57 |
| knome | bluesabre, keep on packaging | 01:57 |
| * bluesabre resumes packaging | 01:57 | |
| bluesabre | actually, looks like you all have already done the hard work | 01:57 |
| bluesabre | I just have to create the sponsorship bug and build the dsc | 01:57 |
| * bluesabre expects this for more packages in the future | 01:58 | |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: I was going to say, what didn't I do? :P | 01:58 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:58 |
| bluesabre | 1. blame somebody | 01:58 |
| bluesabre | 2. learn more about what you're doing | 01:58 |
| bluesabre | 3. appologize | 01:58 |
| bluesabre | 4. ??? | 01:59 |
| bluesabre | 5. profit | 01:59 |
| knome | hah | 01:59 |
| knome | i found two typos from the strings that were changed | 01:59 |
| knome | fishy. | 02:00 |
| bluesabre | >.< | 02:00 |
| knome | launchpad says 8 strings untranslated | 02:00 |
| knome | when i click that link | 02:00 |
| knome | "There are no messages that match this filtering." | 02:00 |
| knome | HMMM | 02:00 |
| bluesabre | O.o | 02:01 |
| knome | bluesabre, that is, typos in the finnish translation... | 02:01 |
| bluesabre | which project? | 02:01 |
| knome | keep on packaging | 02:01 |
| knome | xubuntu-docs :) | 02:01 |
| bluesabre | gotcha | 02:01 |
| knome | might be something updating atm | 02:01 |
| knome | now says 0 | 02:01 |
| knome | huh? | 02:01 |
| bluesabre | now it says -14 | 02:04 |
| bluesabre | :O | 02:04 |
| knome | :P | 02:05 |
| knome | things start getting weird | 02:05 |
| knome | i should shut down the computer so that doesn't spread here too much | 02:06 |
| knome | see you later, and thanks for taking care of the sponsorship sean :) | 02:06 |
| knome | -> | 02:06 |
| Unit193 | knome: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73866 | 02:16 |
| Unit193 | Document es/index.xml does not validate | 02:23 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: I don't think there is much else I can do with this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1294932 | 02:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1294932 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] xubuntu-docs 14.04.1" [Undecided,New] | 02:25 |
| bluesabre | thoughts? | 02:25 |
| Unit193 | [ Sean Davis ], and targetting UNRELEASED? Really? :P | 02:27 |
| bluesabre | I've been scolded for putting the right target before | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | sponsors are finicky | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | and should I put the [ Sean Davis ] if I didn't actually do anything? | 02:29 |
| bluesabre | copied a previous release's format | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | 1. When were you scolded? 2. I'm generally thinking Debian format, shouldn't be wrong but we could do it your way, sure. | 02:30 |
| bluesabre | it's been a while | 02:31 |
| Unit193 | I'd have to know more about it, but generally you leave as UNRELEASED until you are ready for it to go into the archive. | 02:32 |
| bluesabre | I think this should be fine, they've accepted the last 20 packages :) | 02:33 |
| * Unit193 doesn't like it. :P | 02:33 | |
| Unit193 | Alrighty, if it works. | 02:33 |
| bluesabre | :) | 02:33 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: When you request a merge, please make sure to use what's in the archive, and add another point release targetting UNRELEASED and with an example change? | 02:40 |
| Unit193 | Does this make sense? | 02:40 |
| bluesabre | yes... so then the UNRELEASED only applies to merges, and not for ubuntu-only packages? | 02:42 |
| Unit193 | UNRELEASED is seen in Debian VCSes too, it's to indicate the package is not meant to be uploaded right now. | 02:44 |
| bluesabre | I think that also applies for sponsored packages as well | 02:44 |
| bluesabre | the rules and docs are fuzzy for these things | 02:45 |
| * Unit193 knows Debian rules, didn't think Ubuntu changed that much. | 02:45 | |
| Unit193 | knome: Should I mention en_AU looks funny on the languages thing? | 04:06 |
| arrith | knome: you think mailing list and irc? or mailing list and bug? | 04:10 |
| Unit193 | I seem to be missing context. | 04:11 |
| arrith | Unit193: if you mean for my question i asked some 3+ hours ago | 04:51 |
| === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware | ||
| Naphatul | when i select encryption my install it auto selects using lvm, is this just recommended or needed? | 08:40 |
| brainwash | jhenke: hey, thanks for the xflock4 fix | 10:05 |
| brainwash | we also need to change debian/control | 10:06 |
| brainwash | so it won't pull xscreensaver in, something like "Recommends: ..., xscreensaver | light-locker" | 10:07 |
| brainwash | because we don't use xscreensaver, so we shouldn't ship it | 10:09 |
| ochosi | hey slickymasterWork | 10:13 |
| slickymasterWork | morning ochosi, how's everything? | 10:14 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: good good :) | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | great | 10:14 |
| ochosi | i quickly wanted to ask you, aren't you a native speaker of portughese? | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | yes | 10:14 |
| ochosi | (or am i mixing you up with someone else now..) | 10:14 |
| ochosi | cool | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | do you need any help? | 10:14 |
| ochosi | and do you have a transifex account already? | 10:15 |
| slickymasterWork | yes | 10:15 |
| ochosi | awesome! | 10:15 |
| slickymasterWork | you're asking about whisker translation? | 10:15 |
| ochosi | i just realized that we have no portughese translations in light-locker | 10:15 |
| slickymasterWork | give me the link and I'll start working on it | 10:16 |
| ochosi | well, some brazilian portughese, but even that is incomplete | 10:16 |
| ochosi | yay! thanks! | 10:16 |
| ochosi | it's only about 12 strings | 10:16 |
| slickymasterWork | there's a bit (sometimes huge) difference between pt_PT and pt_BR | 10:16 |
| ochosi | https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/light-locker/language/pt/ | 10:17 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: consider it done ;) | 10:17 |
| ochosi | ok, well if you want, feel free to look at this as well :) | 10:17 |
| ochosi | https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/light-locker/language/pt_BR/ | 10:17 |
| ochosi | thanks a bunch! | 10:17 |
| ochosi | really looking forward to getting better translations for the 1.4.0 release | 10:18 |
| ochosi | if you see more langs and you know native speakers, don't hesitate to spread the word! | 10:18 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll take a look at the Brazilian translation and if needed I'll finish it also | 10:18 |
| slickymasterWork | will do ochosi, don't worry | 10:19 |
| ochosi | thanks, that's a great help! | 10:19 |
| slickymasterWork | you could poke GridCube to get a Spanish translation | 10:19 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: ^^ | 10:20 |
| ochosi | thanks, spanish is done already though | 10:21 |
| ochosi | and iirc he's not catalan | 10:21 |
| slickymasterWork | ok | 10:22 |
| brainwash | ochosi: http://www.debinux.de/2014/03/xfce-fenster-maximieren-mit-drag-top/ | 10:48 |
| brainwash | :D | 10:48 |
| brainwash | sadly we won't include this change | 10:49 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: done -> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/light-locker/language/pt/ | 10:50 |
| ochosi | thanks slickymasterWork | 10:50 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, i know | 10:50 |
| ochosi | i'd actually want to fix that for a later xfwm4 release | 10:51 |
| brainwash | ochosi: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9927 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9927 in General "Maximize window when dragged to top of screen" [Enhancement,New] | 10:55 |
| brainwash | later release? | 10:55 |
| ochosi | yeah, in the more distant future :) | 10:57 |
| brainwash | ok :) | 10:57 |
| ochosi | step1: change default, step2: make the drag-actions configurable | 11:02 |
| knome | arrith, i would imagine the more communication, the better... ask the irc channel first, and if you get a direct response as to how to proceed, go with that | 11:41 |
| knome | arrith, if not, send a mail to the mailing list | 11:41 |
| knome | arrith, if there is a bug and you have any further information to it, add it. if not, or you don't know what, reply to the bug and ask how you could help | 11:42 |
| knome | slow wiki today, again | 11:54 |
| knome | micahg | 12:08 |
| knome | micah | 12:09 |
| knome | micahg-work | 12:09 |
| knome | sausage | 12:09 |
| knome | holiday | 12:09 |
| knome | this-word-is-on-micahg's-highlight-list-as-well | 12:09 |
| elfy | ochosi: funny that you posted that comment in the lightdm-greeter bug - I posted exactly the same in the current forum thread on it :) | 12:26 |
| knome | meh | 12:33 |
| knome | bug 1285843 | 12:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1285843 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Queue selections do not move torrents" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1285843 | 12:33 |
| knome | that's a weird one | 12:33 |
| knome | to be honest, at this point i'm not even sure what "queue" is supposed to mean | 12:33 |
| knome | because when you edit the queue, the files are ordered in that order in the main GUI | 12:33 |
| knome | (in saucy, where that works) | 12:33 |
| knome | but you can *also* *order* the torrents by name, file size, activity, etc... | 12:34 |
| knome | which *also* changes the order | 12:34 |
| knome | so is the order shown in GUI the queue order, eg. what should be downloaded first? | 12:34 |
| * elfy thinks a lot of the testcases should be pared down | 12:35 | |
| knome | well, i think that either there is another bug in transmission | 12:37 |
| knome | i mean, not being able to show the queue order | 12:38 |
| knome | or then there is... another bug in transmission | 12:38 |
| knome | which is, the queue order doesn't have any correlation with anything | 12:38 |
| knome | also note my comment | 12:38 |
| knome | same version | 12:38 |
| knome | queue sorting works on saucy | 12:38 |
| knome | queue sorting doesn't work on trusty | 12:38 |
| knome | WHAT? | 12:38 |
| knome | potential GTK issue? | 12:39 |
| * elfy wouldn't notice tbh - rarely torrent, when I do I don't need a queue :) | 12:39 | |
| knome | same here | 12:39 |
| knome | so what do you think? | 12:42 |
| knome | scrap that bug from the blueprint? | 12:42 |
| knome | it really doesn't sound like high-priority | 12:42 |
| knome | or anything we will actually come to | 12:42 |
| knome | i just did that... | 12:43 |
| knome | bug 1270894 is somewhat nasty... | 12:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1270894 in ristretto (Ubuntu) "Sorting by date or name not working properly in thumbnail bar" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270894 | 12:44 |
| elfy | well ... I'd guess we've got bigger fish to fry than queuing in transmission | 12:45 |
| knome | mhm | 12:45 |
| knome | and even if we didn't... | 12:45 |
| elfy | and is it our fish to fry anyway? | 12:45 |
| knome | i wouldn't call this bug something we "commit" to fix for the release | 12:46 |
| knome | it's in no way release-critical | 12:46 |
| elfy | nope | 12:46 |
| knome | i also marked it as low | 12:46 |
| elfy | I'm getting rather concerned about the keyboard one | 12:46 |
| knome | it's getting lost in the list of bugs :P | 12:46 |
| elfy | if that's not dealt with then that is release critical imo | 12:46 |
| knome | bug 1277154 | 12:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1277154 in xfce4-notes-plugin (Ubuntu) "Ctrl+W does not ask for confirmation on note delete" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277154 | 12:47 |
| knome | you happy with that? :) | 12:47 |
| elfy | yea | 12:47 |
| knome | removing from blueprint | 12:47 |
| knome | what's the kb bug? | 12:50 |
| knome | am i just not seeing it | 12:50 |
| knome | or is it not linked to the blueprint | 12:50 |
| elfy | wasn't - is now | 12:52 |
| elfy | bug 1284635 | 12:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284635 | 12:52 |
| knome | lol, good | 12:52 |
| * elfy found another thunar bug - hesistant to add more to the list that won't get done lol | 12:54 | |
| knome | if it's something we would *like* to get fixed... just add it | 12:54 |
| knome | :| | 12:54 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: do you think bug 1289411 should be added to the blueprint? | 12:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1289411 in xfce4-settings "Help button doesn't open online help" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289411 | 12:54 |
| elfy | yes | 12:55 |
| knome | at least the list works as a shortlist for bugs to fix for .1 | 12:55 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy: was your 'yes' addressed to what I asked? | 12:55 |
| elfy | both :p | 12:56 |
| knome | ochosi, bluesabre: can we set "xv" to "false" on default xubuntu installation? that's a workaround for bug 1278089 | 12:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1278089 in parole (Ubuntu) "parole reports "Gstreamer backend error, could not initialise supporting library" in trusty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278089 | 12:56 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 12:56 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, yep, you should | 12:56 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, docs translation templates are up.. | 12:56 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: are you referring to the ubiquity ones? | 12:58 |
| knome | no | 12:58 |
| knome | docs | 12:58 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah, I see it now :P | 12:59 |
| knome | the strings changed a bit since we poked the entities a bit | 12:59 |
| knome | so what i suggest you to do | 12:59 |
| elfy | knome: did the last slideshow bit get done now? | 12:59 |
| knome | elfy, it's done, but waiting for an upload (stgraber has promised to do that) | 12:59 |
| elfy | ok - I'll forget about that now :p | 12:59 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, 1) update your branch | 12:59 |
| knome | 2) open the .po file IN A TEXT EDITOR | 12:59 |
| knome | 3) go to launchpad, and filter out untranslated strings | 13:00 |
| knome | 4) search the .po file for those strings: you will find commented out strings | 13:00 |
| knome | that basically allows you to reuse the text | 13:00 |
| knome | but only update the paths | 13:01 |
| slickymasterWork | ok, knome. I'll do it that way. It's just 30 strings | 13:01 |
| knome | yep | 13:01 |
| knome | that's what i did yesterday | 13:01 |
| knome | there were like 5 strings that actually needed "new" translations | 13:01 |
| knome | the rest were updating the patgs | 13:02 |
| knome | *paths | 13:02 |
| slickymasterWork | yesterday was father's day over here, so no work at home | 13:02 |
| knome | GridCube, spañish trañslatioñ of docs? | 13:03 |
| knome | GridCube, the official call for translations is not out yet, but we have everything ready for you to go ahead and translate | 13:04 |
| knome | no strings will change... | 13:04 |
| elfy | tell me how and I will translate en_AU into a proper language like en_GB | 13:04 |
| knome | elfy, lol | 13:04 |
| elfy | just for the karma you understand :p | 13:04 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: traducción al español de los documentos | 13:04 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, dokumentaation suomenkielinen käännös! | 13:04 |
| slickymasterWork | that was in spanhis actually, not ion portuguese :P | 13:05 |
| knome | yeah, and that was "the finnish..." in finnish :P | 13:05 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 13:05 |
| elfy | furriners | 13:05 |
| knome | elfy, https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/trusty/+pots/desktop-guide/en_GB/+translate | 13:05 |
| knome | elfy, start bashing ;) | 13:05 |
| slickymasterWork | lunch time. bbl -> | 13:06 |
| * knome ponders about eating as well | 13:07 | |
| * elfy had cakes | 13:07 | |
| GridCube | knome, i've asked several people to help, i will try to check myself | 13:08 |
| knome | i ate two eggs :) | 13:09 |
| knome | yummy | 13:09 |
| knome | 6-7min eggs | 13:10 |
| GridCube | im breakfasting coockis and mate | 13:10 |
| knome | i woke up at 1pm and skipped breakfast :P | 13:11 |
| elfy | nah - you had breakfast | 13:12 |
| elfy | you didn't have it early is all :) | 13:12 |
| knome | nah ;) | 13:32 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_real_baseline.png | 13:37 |
| knome | o hai pleia2 | 13:38 |
| pleia2 | sneaky | 13:38 |
| knome | me? :P | 13:39 |
| pleia2 | mhmm | 13:40 |
| knome | hah | 13:40 |
| knome | your idle time is less than 5mins -> busted | 13:40 |
| knome | i know. | 13:40 |
| knome | :) | 13:40 |
| GridCube | knome, there are a bunch of entries to "translate" are just the names of programs, and those are just the same | 13:41 |
| knome | GridCube, then translate them to the same strings | 13:41 |
| GridCube | i did that P: | 13:41 |
| knome | elfy, i'll mark your mail "critical" | 13:49 |
| knome | elfy, if i haven't answered in a week, poke me | 13:49 |
| GridCube | knome, what have i have to do whit this; <placeholder-1/>lightdm | 13:50 |
| knome | most probably just keep as it is | 13:50 |
| GridCube | Simple session-locker for <placeholder-1/> | 13:50 |
| GridCube | thats the next one, do i translate the text? | 13:51 |
| knome | translate everything else than <placeholder-1/> | 13:51 |
| GridCube | k | 13:51 |
| knome | you can look up the actual string if you test-build the documentation | 13:51 |
| knome | and open the appropriate page | 13:51 |
| knome | so you know how to format that string if it's not obvious how to do it with your language | 13:51 |
| knome | pleia2, hrm | 13:54 |
| knome | pleia2, when haz time? | 13:54 |
| pleia2 | in a bit | 13:54 |
| knome | let's schedule a website-marketing sprint.. | 13:54 |
| knome | not sure i have time "in a bit" | 13:55 |
| knome | later today? | 13:55 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 13:55 |
| knome | anything that works particularly well or bad for you? | 13:55 |
| pleia2 | being owned by puppet and fedora at the moment | 13:55 |
| pleia2 | CC meeting is at 17:00, can do after that | 13:56 |
| knome | ok, let's try that | 13:56 |
| knome | can't promise i'll be here 18utc sharp though ;) | 13:56 |
| pleia2 | yeah whenever | 13:56 |
| * knome goes to unfocused mode, works with real work... -> | 13:56 | |
| m3741 | hey everyone, i'm looking for the live-build environment that is used to build xubuntu saucy. i'd be perfectly happy with just the auto/config script itself but if i could get the whole live-build environment all the better | 13:56 |
| elfy | mmm | 14:18 |
| elfy | there is a team meeting at 18utc | 14:18 |
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| slickymasterWork | knome: you around? | 15:09 |
| knome | hm | 15:32 |
| knome | :) | 15:32 |
| elfy | that slickymasterWork is pyschic knome :p | 15:37 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, i am around :P | 15:37 |
| knome | waited more than the magic 3 minutes though ;) | 15:37 |
| slickymasterWork | lol, sorry knome | 15:38 |
| knome | it's okay | 15:38 |
| knome | i was eating | 15:38 |
| knome | and just came back | 15:38 |
| slickymasterWork | question is in the pt po file I have this -> "Last-Translator: Pasi Lallinaho <pasi@shimmerproject.org>\n" | 15:38 |
| slickymasterWork | do i change it? | 15:38 |
| knome | well that's weird, but keep it | 15:39 |
| slickymasterWork | AT THE VERY BEGINING OF THE FILE | 15:39 |
| knome | especially if you are doing the last changes via launchpad | 15:39 |
| slickymasterWork | no, I'm working directly on the po file | 15:39 |
| knome | well during this translation progress, i've magically learnt many languages :P | 15:39 |
| knome | are you editing it by hadn? | 15:39 |
| knome | heh | 15:39 |
| knome | or with a po editing software? | 15:39 |
| slickymasterWork | so, just keep there, right? | 15:39 |
| slickymasterWork | no, working in Geany | 15:40 |
| knome | i would suggest looking at poedit | 15:40 |
| knome | in poedit, you can give your personal information | 15:40 |
| knome | like name and email address | 15:40 |
| slickymasterWork | is it too heavy? | 15:40 |
| knome | and when you save the file, that information is saved automatically | 15:40 |
| knome | no, it's really light | 15:40 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll try then | 15:40 |
| slickymasterWork | + it | 15:40 |
| knome | the only bad side with it is that | 15:41 |
| knome | it always creates a .mo file on save | 15:41 |
| knome | which means you will have to remove that | 15:41 |
| knome | i guess you could be able to remove that feature... | 15:41 |
| slickymasterWork | you mean rename it to .po? | 15:41 |
| elfy | knome: not sure I'm going to make tonights meeting at 1800 - but I put the keyboard issue on the agenda - I worry about that still being about in April the middle | 15:41 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, no... it's different | 15:42 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, just remove .mo | 15:42 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, and yeah, you can remove that feature | 15:42 |
| slickymasterWork | ok, I'll give it a try | 15:42 |
| knome | edit -> preferences -> editor -> uncheck "automatically compile .mo file on save" | 15:42 |
| slickymasterWork | okie dokie | 15:43 |
| knome | a few helpful shortcut keys: | 15:43 |
| knome | ctrl+enter -> go to next untranslated string | 15:44 |
| knome | ctrl+arrow up/down go to next/prev string | 15:44 |
| knome | elfy, mhm | 15:44 |
| slickymasterWork | 16 MB the package, yeah, it's quite light | 15:45 |
| ochosi | knome: re: parole, i'm not sure that that's a good idea as a general solution. it leads to a lot of cpu cycles iirc | 15:54 |
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| knome | so, who's chairing the meeting today :) | 17:38 |
| knome | ochosi, did you promise to do that? :) | 17:38 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: with the po file translated do I just upload it or instaed do I bzr push it to my branch? | 17:47 |
| knome | either | 17:50 |
| slickymasterWork | what do you usually do? | 17:51 |
| knome | i push to production :P | 17:51 |
| knome | i guess the easiest way collectively is to upload the .po | 17:51 |
| slickymasterWork | pushing it means that afterwards I'll have to do a MP for you to review and approve :P | 17:52 |
| knome | yes | 17:52 |
| slickymasterWork | he he, I'll give you that pleasure then :p | 17:53 |
| knome | well what ever way | 17:53 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 18:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Mar 20 18:01:02 2014 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 18:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 18:01 |
| knome | #topic Pick a chair | 18:01 |
| knome | volunteers? nominations? | 18:01 |
| elfy | sorry - in and out of the room | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | on unreliable cell wifi | 18:03 |
| knome | excuses :) | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | :D | 18:03 |
| knome | i can wait for a chair to pop up... | 18:04 |
| knome | :) | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | I can try, but ssh is too slow right now to reasonably paste action items into channel | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | and if I disappear, someone else has to :) | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | (my connection was much better yesterday, before the snowmageddon) | 18:08 |
| knome | well if elfy is in and out, you have bad connectivity, i'm feeling lazy and micahg sits quiet, why do we even have the meeting? | 18:09 |
| knome | just asking... | 18:09 |
| micahg-work | maybe a different time would be betteR? | 18:09 |
| knome | 19UTC (one hour later) usually has worked pretty well | 18:09 |
| knome | nobody has said it's bad for them | 18:10 |
| knome | and it was discussed last time that an hour before is better for most | 18:10 |
| micahg-work | fine with me, though I have a meeting at 19:30 today | 18:10 |
| pleia2 | it's fine when I'm home :) | 18:10 |
| knome | now, i'm not blaming about people not showing up | 18:10 |
| knome | the meetings aren't obligatory | 18:10 |
| knome | it shouldn't be a chore | 18:10 |
| knome | if it is, maybe we should organize communication in another way | 18:10 |
| elfy | I did say that 1800 was bad for me ;) | 18:10 |
| micahg-work | I pop up to answer questions | 18:10 |
| knome | i can chair a meeting, and run down the agenda, but if people are here just because they feel they have to be... that kind of sucks | 18:11 |
| knome | elfy, except this week :) | 18:11 |
| elfy | well - holiday :) | 18:11 |
| knome | and yeah, this change in time was supposed to be a trial... | 18:11 |
| elfy | it is still bad though - food for little one shouldn't have to wait for two IRC meetings ;) | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | trial failed, maybe my internet will be better in 50 minutes | 18:12 |
| knome | hah | 18:12 |
| knome | #topic Ibus vs installed keyboard layout - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1284635 | 18:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] | 18:12 |
| knome | let's discuss about this | 18:12 |
| knome | elfy, want to outline? | 18:13 |
| elfy | mmm - well - not much I can add to the bug report I did, but this is a big issue imo | 18:15 |
| elfy | I'm not sure how many this would affect - whether just UK or not - but it would be all of them | 18:15 |
| knome | i wonder if this is related to some of the changes in gnome-settings-manager (time-admin, users-admin) or so which were landed earlier this cycle | 18:15 |
| elfy | also not sure what we can do about it - though removing ibus fixes it | 18:16 |
| dkessel | I have had that on standard ubuntu some time ago I believe | 18:16 |
| slickymasterWork | so far I haven't saw it affecting the PT keyboard layout | 18:16 |
| elfy | I'm pretty sure that when ibus ended up in the panel is when the issue started - but can't be more speciic than that | 18:16 |
| knome | dkessel, can you add on the bug then please? would be good to have more eyes on it.. | 18:16 |
| knome | didn't somebody report this on FR layout, or do i misremember? | 18:17 |
| knome | i'm wondering if it has something to do with truncating the LANG to two characters | 18:17 |
| micahg-work | we got 1.5.5 of ibus 5 days before that bug was filed, maybe it's a regression? | 18:17 |
| elfy | you might remember me trying to work with a freench layout | 18:17 |
| knome | micahg-work, very likely in that case | 18:18 |
| knome | elfy, let's try with an older version of ibus :) | 18:18 |
| micahg-work | Update en-us compose table and add locale tables for xkb engines. | 18:18 |
| elfy | micahg-work: extrmely possible - I remember seeing it - then thinking nothing of it for a day or so | 18:18 |
| knome | hmmh | 18:18 |
| elfy | gtg - back in 30 | 18:18 |
| dkessel | I guess it would help if I could find the old bug ID. Will try to find that. Very limited time these days | 18:18 |
| knome | micahg-work, have a link to the commit? | 18:18 |
| micahg-work | e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b | 18:18 |
| micahg-work | sorry, just going off launchpad info here | 18:19 |
| micahg-work | previous version of ibus: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/1.5.4-1ubuntu1 | 18:19 |
| micahg-work | https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b | 18:20 |
| * knome is looking at the last link | 18:20 | |
| micahg-work | https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b#diff-feb6c99dcbf1f2fc7ffa5b43075149b3R42 maybe? | 18:21 |
| micahg-work | oh, soryr, that's a test | 18:21 |
| knome | i can run a test with the old version shortly | 18:22 |
| knome | zsyncing daily | 18:23 |
| dkessel | Found my old bug ID for this: bug 1240198 | 18:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1240198 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "wrong keyboard layout active after booting into desktop, after upgrade to saucy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240198 | 18:29 |
| elfy | back | 18:41 |
| knome | just running an installation | 18:44 |
| elfy | dkessel: oh yea - I'd nto have noticed that one at all | 18:45 |
| knome | yep, can confirm | 18:47 |
| elfy | good - although I've had people confirm it - I thought I was going madder | 18:48 |
| micahg-work | so, maybe it's an older issue than | 18:48 |
| knome | i'll check with the old ibus package soon | 18:48 |
| elfy | micahg-work: we never had it previously | 18:48 |
| micahg-work | dkessel's bug is from pre-trusty | 18:48 |
| elfy | I've not seen it until ibus pitched up on the panel | 18:48 |
| elfy | micahg-work: yes - and it's for an ubuntu indicator | 18:48 |
| knome | did we install ibus pre-trusty? | 18:49 |
| micahg-work | I would think so, let me check | 18:49 |
| micahg-work | yes, from at least oneiric on | 18:49 |
| elfy | micahg-work: I'd have noticed this in saucy - I often use things like # in passwords - even in vm's that last one boot | 18:50 |
| micahg-work | (those are all the seeds I have checked out locally) | 18:50 |
| micahg-work | raring had ibus 1.4, saucy brought 1.5 | 18:51 |
| knome | micahg-work, is there a clean way to install an older package version? | 18:54 |
| micahg-work | if you have a repo with the old version available, you can add it to your apt sources and use -t with apt-get install to get that version | 18:55 |
| knome | i guess i don't ;) | 18:56 |
| micahg-work | but stuff doesn't necessarily downgrade like that gracefully | 18:56 |
| knome | sure | 18:56 |
| micahg-work | you can download all the debs and pass them to sudo dpkg -i on the command line | 18:56 |
| knome | i guess the old debs aren't saved anywhere? | 18:58 |
| knome | well at least i can confirm that removing ibus fixes... | 18:59 |
| micahg-work | knome, in launchpad for sure | 19:00 |
| micahg-work | gave link above to the upload, click on the arch you want | 19:00 |
| knome | ahh | 19:00 |
| slickymasterWork | bbiw | 19:00 |
| knome | hidden! | 19:00 |
| Unit193 | ./#endmeeting ? | 19:02 |
| knome | nah. | 19:03 |
| knome | (was aware, thanks.) | 19:03 |
| knome | micahg-work, if there is any possibility you could look at the merges + uploads today, cool | 19:05 |
| knome | micahg-work, if not, please let us know and we will find another way to do it | 19:05 |
| micahg-work | ok | 19:05 |
| knome | (later not preferred, but...) | 19:05 |
| knome | well at least installing the old ibus doesn't break the layout.. | 19:06 |
| knome | upgrading back to latest | 19:07 |
| * elfy is back again | 19:08 | |
| elfy | so - a regression then | 19:09 |
| knome | well, have to look more | 19:09 |
| knome | apparently i would have had to manually start something | 19:10 |
| knome | hmm, not sure | 19:12 |
| knome | the package ends up with a crash... | 19:13 |
| knome | so downgrading isn't clean | 19:13 |
| knome | #topic Schedule next meeting | 19:14 |
| knome | #info Next Xubuntu community meeting: Thu 27 Mar, 19UTC | 19:14 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 19:14 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Mar 20 19:14:32 2014 UTC. | 19:14 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-03-20-18.01.moin.txt | 19:14 |
| pleia2 | thanks knome | 19:14 |
| knome | thanks, i guess | 19:14 |
| knome | i'm off | 19:14 |
| elfy | thanks | 19:14 |
| knome | see you later | 19:14 |
| elfy | cya | 19:14 |
| elfy | yep | 19:16 |
| micahg-work | oh | 19:21 |
| micahg-work | forgot to announce, beta 2 freeze Mon 21:00 UTC | 19:21 |
| micahg-work | or I missed it | 19:21 |
| elfy | nope - you didn't miss it | 19:24 |
| elfy | as soon as I've got url for the tracker I'll be calling out | 19:25 |
| pleia2 | yay | 19:25 |
| elfy | and someone can whack it on the social media things :p | 19:25 |
| pleia2 | yes, that :) | 19:25 |
| elfy | I mean pleia2 can you whack it on the social media things :D | 19:25 |
| pleia2 | haha | 19:26 |
| elfy | I'll ping you with it as soon as I've done it :) | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 19:26 |
| slickymaster | back | 19:26 |
| elfy | hi slickymaster | 19:27 |
| slickymaster | and the meeting is over :P | 19:27 |
| elfy | yep | 19:27 |
| slickymaster | well, going to have dinner then | 19:27 |
| elfy | I had to during the meeting :) | 19:28 |
| slickymaster | bbl _ | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | slickymaster: it was an hour earlier this week, but we're putting it back next week | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | enjoy | 19:28 |
| slickymaster | knome: for your appreciation -> https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/212038 | 19:48 |
| Unit193 | Oh, docs string freeze, we can do translations now. | 21:32 |
| elfy | knome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes - Releasing "The image must not be oversized" what does that mean now we don't fit on a CD? | 21:41 |
| Unit193 | 1G is our limit, though less than 900 is preferred. | 21:46 |
| elfy | ok - specified somewhere? | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | No idea. | 21:47 |
| Unit193 | knome: You're not going to like this, the structure is still off. :3 | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | (I think I mentioned something about this a long time ago, but since forgot as it Worked for Me™) | 22:04 |
| Unit193 | preferences-desktop.png was also dropped from the package? What for? | 22:10 |
| Unit193 | It's still in use, or trying to be. | 22:10 |
| knome | Unit193, hmm, so is something "not working"? | 22:13 |
| Unit193 | file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/about/xubuntu-index.html <<< Look, also look >>> file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/desktop-guide/guide-desktop.html | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | Images be missing. | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | The index image is right with my mod, and right on the desktop-guide and languages. | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | Missing a few images there. :/ | 22:23 |
| ochosi | Unit193: have you tested this with an earlier garcon version? | 23:14 |
| ochosi | or you brainwash ? | 23:14 |
| ochosi | the bugreport doesn't seem entirely clear on that | 23:14 |
| ochosi | although the fact that xfdesktop's menu still works points more to the panel... | 23:15 |
| ochosi | this seems to be where the panel switched to the new garcon stuff: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/commit/?id=eb2098a7d18df0a2ecd995f781cc7c861337e1f6 | 23:21 |
| ochosi | it's possible that xfdesktop still uses old garcon routines and is hence not affected | 23:21 |
| brainwash | no | 23:25 |
| brainwash | I've switched to whisker menu | 23:26 |
| Unit193 | And you don't get hit by it? | 23:26 |
| brainwash | nope | 23:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, but whiskermenu and xfdesktops menu arent affected | 23:29 |
| ochosi | it only affects the application-menu plugin of xfce4-panel | 23:29 |
| ochosi | ok | 23:32 |
| ochosi | i think i found the problem | 23:33 |
| ochosi | i *think* :) | 23:33 |
| ochosi | garcon now uses gtk_image_new_from_icon_name | 23:33 |
| ochosi | instead of gtk_image_new_from_icon_name | 23:33 |
| ochosi | arr | 23:34 |
| ochosi | instead of xfce_panel_image_new_from_source | 23:34 |
| ochosi | so the icons break because the icon-theme doesn't have an icon called "skype.png" or "skype.xpm" but only "skype" | 23:34 |
| ochosi | guess i should try to back this up somehow... | 23:34 |
| ochosi | yup, i think that's it | 23:36 |
| ochosi | not sure i can submit a patch for that, but it basically needs to check with gtk_icon_source_set_filename as well | 23:48 |
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| brainwash | ochosi: why not? | 23:58 |
| brainwash | a patch can be reviewed | 23:59 |
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