[00:23] sounds like you guys are in need of somebody else! [00:26] like bluesabre? [00:26] ooh ooh! [00:26] :O [00:26] bluesabre, seriously, if you could go through that... [00:26] provide links to the things that need package [00:26] lp:xubuntu-docs [00:26] and I will get to them tonight/tomorrow [00:27] I hope this is similar to previous xubuntu-docs packaging [00:27] I'll whine if not [00:27] bbabl [00:27] shouldn't be too different... [00:28] Unit193, hmm. [00:28] Unit193, startpage broken [00:28] Unit193, do we expect some other directory structure? [00:28] Unit193, doesn't look like we do [00:31] Unit193, main Makefile, line 24: [00:31] ../$$lang/index.html [00:31] Unit193, line 21: [00:32] only copies *.css, should copy *.css and *.png [00:32] or the .htx file should point to ../desktop-guide/logo.png [00:33] the kernel freeze is coming up and i would like to help fix Bug #1287966: "DisplayLink USB Graphics not supported by Ubuntu Kernel" before it passes, or find out that it's no longer a bug. the bug link is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-saucy/+bug/1287966 (and a related blog post: http://plugable.com/2014/03/06/displaylink-usb-2-0-graphics-adapters-on-linux-2014-edition ). [00:33] Launchpad bug 1287966 in linux-lts-saucy (Ubuntu) "DisplayLink USB Graphics not supported by Ubuntu Kernel" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:33] any thoughts on if would it be better to post about investigation into that on a bug, on the ubuntu kernel mailing list, in the ubuntu kernel irc channel, or somewhere else? [00:34] arrith, both. [00:42] Unit193, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/docs.diff.txt [00:42] Oh? [00:42] yeah [00:42] links point to about/fi [00:42] and logo is not visible [00:43] i guess it was a wise move to do the test-build now... [00:43] those changes fix it for me [00:43] want to review? :) [00:43] (try building it yourself!) [00:44] Trying latest trunk first. [00:44] yep. [00:46] Right, works for me because I was expecting, and working with, a different structure. [00:46] aha :) [00:46] So, good catch I suppose, means more work for me. :P [00:47] how so? [00:48] the fix is in trunk [00:48] please double-check it works [00:50] ..aaaand i pushed an updated translation template as well [00:53] We could just make the structure match mine. :D [00:53] a bit late for that, and why at this point? [00:54] why didn't you do that earlier, that is? [01:13] Well, there's a structure now and it seems to work for the installed docs well enough, it just doesn't work at all for what I do, simple as that. [01:13] mhm [01:13] so what do you do? [01:15] I want it all under one dir, and have xubuntu-index the first thing seen. This means moving it and renaming it. [01:15] yeah... that sounds somewhat logical [01:15] we can do that for 14.04.1 [01:15] or sth... [01:16] So I have a sed on that, adding the revno (would "upstream" that), and removing the hardcoded path to the desktop-guide. [01:19] s/would/wouldn't/ [01:21] ochosi, hmm, parts of light-locker lock screen is not translated [01:21] ochosi, are we just lagging behind on getting stuff up? [01:21] we didn't have too many complete languages for it [01:22] finnish? [01:22] i mean, [01:22] luckily the lockscreen of light-locker shouldn't be visible too much [01:22] i see "Unlock" [01:22] what? i've surely translated that. [01:22] err, are you referring to lightdm-gtk-greeter maybe? [01:22] possibly that. [01:22] what ever is presented when i'm trying to unlock the screen ;) [01:23] heh, yeah, that's the greeter [01:23] no idea what the status is on translations there [01:23] tbh, i'm a bit loss with all these different light-locker projects... [01:23] itself, -greeter, -settings, what else [01:23] :P [01:23] there is: [01:23] lightdm [01:23] lightdm-gtk-greeter [01:23] lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings [01:23] light-locker [01:23] light-locker-settings [01:24] >___< [01:24] now everything should be clear, right? :> [01:24] where do i translate the greeter? [01:24] https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter [01:24] hmm hmm [01:24] finnish has quite a few missing and a few more that need review [01:25] yeah WEEEEIRD [01:25] context: Other [01:26] %d is integer? [01:26] knome: So you still think those sound sane? :P [01:26] which? [01:27] yup, %d is integer [01:27] cool [01:27] had a wrong translation there [01:28] and what was the content for "Other"? [01:28] hmm, wait! [01:28] WAIT! [01:28] that's translated [01:29] huh? [01:30] i shouldn't work on FOSS stuff at 3am, i get confused [01:33] where's light-locker translated? [01:33] oh wait [01:33] transifex [01:33] mmmh [01:34] Don't like that one? [01:34] well no, [01:34] but that's hardly a problem [01:34] since i have an account [01:34] and it's 100% translated [01:40] eh, funny? [01:40] Default display manager [01:40] == Oletusnäytönhallintasovellus [01:40] that'll do... [01:42] where does one find l-g-g-s ? [01:42] ochosi, ^ [01:43] hmm, i found a bug in whiskermenu... [01:44] not sure if it only affects vbox installations thought [01:44] -t [01:49] knome: stuff from the settings-manager can't be found in any menus [01:49] appfinder too [01:49] no [01:49] that's not the bug [01:49] the bug is: [01:50] open a category that has so many items that they will need a scrollbar [01:50] scroll fast back and forth [01:50] at some point, the workspace switches [01:50] aha [01:51] knome... so the docs are not ready to be packaged then? [01:51] bluesabre, they are [01:51] bluesabre, i just dropped in the needed changes [01:52] are you suuuuure? :] [01:52] yes. [01:53] * bluesabre starts packaging [01:56] bluesabre, knome: Don't you want to wait for translations to land? :D [01:56] Unit193, no, they should land at translation deadlines [01:56] * bluesabre stops packaging [01:57] we need another upload then [01:57] bluesabre, keep on packaging [01:57] * bluesabre resumes packaging [01:57] actually, looks like you all have already done the hard work [01:57] I just have to create the sponsorship bug and build the dsc [01:58] * bluesabre expects this for more packages in the future [01:58] bluesabre: I was going to say, what didn't I do? :P [01:58] :) [01:58] 1. blame somebody [01:58] 2. learn more about what you're doing [01:58] 3. appologize [01:59] 4. ??? [01:59] 5. profit [01:59] hah [01:59] i found two typos from the strings that were changed [02:00] fishy. [02:00] >.< [02:00] launchpad says 8 strings untranslated [02:00] when i click that link [02:00] "There are no messages that match this filtering." [02:00] HMMM [02:01] O.o [02:01] bluesabre, that is, typos in the finnish translation... [02:01] which project? [02:01] keep on packaging [02:01] xubuntu-docs :) [02:01] gotcha [02:01] might be something updating atm [02:01] now says 0 [02:01] huh? [02:04] now it says -14 [02:04] :O [02:05] :P [02:05] things start getting weird [02:06] i should shut down the computer so that doesn't spread here too much [02:06] see you later, and thanks for taking care of the sponsorship sean :) [02:06] -> [02:16] knome: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73866 [02:23] Document es/index.xml does not validate [02:25] Unit193: I don't think there is much else I can do with this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1294932 [02:25] Launchpad bug 1294932 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] xubuntu-docs 14.04.1" [Undecided,New] [02:25] thoughts? [02:27] [ Sean Davis ], and targetting UNRELEASED? Really? :P [02:28] I've been scolded for putting the right target before [02:28] sponsors are finicky [02:29] and should I put the [ Sean Davis ] if I didn't actually do anything? [02:29] copied a previous release's format [02:30] 1. When were you scolded? 2. I'm generally thinking Debian format, shouldn't be wrong but we could do it your way, sure. [02:31] it's been a while [02:32] I'd have to know more about it, but generally you leave as UNRELEASED until you are ready for it to go into the archive. [02:33] I think this should be fine, they've accepted the last 20 packages :) [02:33] * Unit193 doesn't like it. :P [02:33] Alrighty, if it works. [02:33] :) [02:40] bluesabre: When you request a merge, please make sure to use what's in the archive, and add another point release targetting UNRELEASED and with an example change? [02:40] Does this make sense? [02:42] yes... so then the UNRELEASED only applies to merges, and not for ubuntu-only packages? [02:44] UNRELEASED is seen in Debian VCSes too, it's to indicate the package is not meant to be uploaded right now. [02:44] I think that also applies for sponsored packages as well [02:45] the rules and docs are fuzzy for these things [02:45] * Unit193 knows Debian rules, didn't think Ubuntu changed that much. [04:06] knome: Should I mention en_AU looks funny on the languages thing? [04:10] knome: you think mailing list and irc? or mailing list and bug? [04:11] I seem to be missing context. [04:51] Unit193: if you mean for my question i asked some 3+ hours ago === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware [08:40] when i select encryption my install it auto selects using lvm, is this just recommended or needed? [10:05] jhenke: hey, thanks for the xflock4 fix [10:06] we also need to change debian/control [10:07] so it won't pull xscreensaver in, something like "Recommends: ..., xscreensaver | light-locker" [10:09] because we don't use xscreensaver, so we shouldn't ship it [10:13] hey slickymasterWork [10:14] morning ochosi, how's everything? [10:14] slickymasterWork: good good :) [10:14] great [10:14] i quickly wanted to ask you, aren't you a native speaker of portughese? [10:14] yes [10:14] (or am i mixing you up with someone else now..) [10:14] cool [10:14] do you need any help? [10:15] and do you have a transifex account already? [10:15] yes [10:15] awesome! [10:15] you're asking about whisker translation? [10:15] i just realized that we have no portughese translations in light-locker [10:16] give me the link and I'll start working on it [10:16] well, some brazilian portughese, but even that is incomplete [10:16] yay! thanks! [10:16] it's only about 12 strings [10:16] there's a bit (sometimes huge) difference between pt_PT and pt_BR [10:17] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/light-locker/language/pt/ [10:17] ochosi: consider it done ;) [10:17] ok, well if you want, feel free to look at this as well :) [10:17] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/light-locker/language/pt_BR/ [10:17] thanks a bunch! [10:18] really looking forward to getting better translations for the 1.4.0 release [10:18] if you see more langs and you know native speakers, don't hesitate to spread the word! [10:18] I'll take a look at the Brazilian translation and if needed I'll finish it also [10:19] will do ochosi, don't worry [10:19] thanks, that's a great help! [10:19] you could poke GridCube to get a Spanish translation [10:20] ochosi: ^^ [10:21] thanks, spanish is done already though [10:21] and iirc he's not catalan [10:22] ok [10:48] ochosi: http://www.debinux.de/2014/03/xfce-fenster-maximieren-mit-drag-top/ [10:48] :D [10:49] sadly we won't include this change [10:50] ochosi: done -> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/light-locker/language/pt/ [10:50] thanks slickymasterWork [10:50] brainwash: yeah, i know [10:51] i'd actually want to fix that for a later xfwm4 release [10:55] ochosi: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9927 [10:55] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9927 in General "Maximize window when dragged to top of screen" [Enhancement,New] [10:55] later release? [10:57] yeah, in the more distant future :) [10:57] ok :) [11:02] step1: change default, step2: make the drag-actions configurable [11:41] arrith, i would imagine the more communication, the better... ask the irc channel first, and if you get a direct response as to how to proceed, go with that [11:41] arrith, if not, send a mail to the mailing list [11:42] arrith, if there is a bug and you have any further information to it, add it. if not, or you don't know what, reply to the bug and ask how you could help [11:54] slow wiki today, again [12:08] micahg [12:09] micah [12:09] micahg-work [12:09] sausage [12:09] holiday [12:09] this-word-is-on-micahg's-highlight-list-as-well [12:26] ochosi: funny that you posted that comment in the lightdm-greeter bug - I posted exactly the same in the current forum thread on it :) [12:33] meh [12:33] bug 1285843 [12:33] bug 1285843 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Queue selections do not move torrents" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1285843 [12:33] that's a weird one [12:33] to be honest, at this point i'm not even sure what "queue" is supposed to mean [12:33] because when you edit the queue, the files are ordered in that order in the main GUI [12:33] (in saucy, where that works) [12:34] but you can *also* *order* the torrents by name, file size, activity, etc... [12:34] which *also* changes the order [12:34] so is the order shown in GUI the queue order, eg. what should be downloaded first? [12:35] * elfy thinks a lot of the testcases should be pared down [12:37] well, i think that either there is another bug in transmission [12:38] i mean, not being able to show the queue order [12:38] or then there is... another bug in transmission [12:38] which is, the queue order doesn't have any correlation with anything [12:38] also note my comment [12:38] same version [12:38] queue sorting works on saucy [12:38] queue sorting doesn't work on trusty [12:38] WHAT? [12:39] potential GTK issue? [12:39] * elfy wouldn't notice tbh - rarely torrent, when I do I don't need a queue :) [12:39] same here [12:42] so what do you think? [12:42] scrap that bug from the blueprint? [12:42] it really doesn't sound like high-priority [12:42] or anything we will actually come to [12:43] i just did that... [12:44] bug 1270894 is somewhat nasty... [12:44] bug 1270894 in ristretto (Ubuntu) "Sorting by date or name not working properly in thumbnail bar" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270894 [12:45] well ... I'd guess we've got bigger fish to fry than queuing in transmission [12:45] mhm [12:45] and even if we didn't... [12:45] and is it our fish to fry anyway? [12:46] i wouldn't call this bug something we "commit" to fix for the release [12:46] it's in no way release-critical [12:46] nope [12:46] i also marked it as low [12:46] I'm getting rather concerned about the keyboard one [12:46] it's getting lost in the list of bugs :P [12:46] if that's not dealt with then that is release critical imo [12:47] bug 1277154 [12:47] bug 1277154 in xfce4-notes-plugin (Ubuntu) "Ctrl+W does not ask for confirmation on note delete" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277154 [12:47] you happy with that? :) [12:47] yea [12:47] removing from blueprint [12:50] what's the kb bug? [12:50] am i just not seeing it [12:50] or is it not linked to the blueprint [12:52] wasn't - is now [12:52] bug 1284635 [12:52] bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284635 [12:52] lol, good [12:54] * elfy found another thunar bug - hesistant to add more to the list that won't get done lol [12:54] if it's something we would *like* to get fixed... just add it [12:54] :| [12:54] knome: do you think bug 1289411 should be added to the blueprint? [12:54] bug 1289411 in xfce4-settings "Help button doesn't open online help" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289411 [12:55] yes [12:55] at least the list works as a shortlist for bugs to fix for .1 [12:55] elfy: was your 'yes' addressed to what I asked? [12:56] both :p [12:56] ochosi, bluesabre: can we set "xv" to "false" on default xubuntu installation? that's a workaround for bug 1278089 [12:56] bug 1278089 in parole (Ubuntu) "parole reports "Gstreamer backend error, could not initialise supporting library" in trusty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278089 [12:56] lol [12:56] slickymasterWork, yep, you should [12:56] slickymasterWork, docs translation templates are up.. [12:58] knome: are you referring to the ubiquity ones? [12:58] no [12:58] docs [12:59] yeah, I see it now :P [12:59] the strings changed a bit since we poked the entities a bit [12:59] so what i suggest you to do [12:59] knome: did the last slideshow bit get done now? [12:59] elfy, it's done, but waiting for an upload (stgraber has promised to do that) [12:59] ok - I'll forget about that now :p [12:59] slickymasterWork, 1) update your branch [12:59] 2) open the .po file IN A TEXT EDITOR [13:00] 3) go to launchpad, and filter out untranslated strings [13:00] 4) search the .po file for those strings: you will find commented out strings [13:00] that basically allows you to reuse the text [13:01] but only update the paths [13:01] ok, knome. I'll do it that way. It's just 30 strings [13:01] yep [13:01] that's what i did yesterday [13:01] there were like 5 strings that actually needed "new" translations [13:02] the rest were updating the patgs [13:02] *paths [13:02] yesterday was father's day over here, so no work at home [13:03] GridCube, spañish trañslatioñ of docs? [13:04] GridCube, the official call for translations is not out yet, but we have everything ready for you to go ahead and translate [13:04] no strings will change... [13:04] tell me how and I will translate en_AU into a proper language like en_GB [13:04] elfy, lol [13:04] just for the karma you understand :p [13:04] knome: traducción al español de los documentos [13:04] slickymasterWork, dokumentaation suomenkielinen käännös! [13:05] that was in spanhis actually, not ion portuguese :P [13:05] yeah, and that was "the finnish..." in finnish :P [13:05] ha ha ha [13:05] furriners [13:05] elfy, https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/trusty/+pots/desktop-guide/en_GB/+translate [13:05] elfy, start bashing ;) [13:06] lunch time. bbl -> [13:07] * knome ponders about eating as well [13:07] * elfy had cakes [13:08] knome, i've asked several people to help, i will try to check myself [13:09] i ate two eggs :) [13:09] yummy [13:10] 6-7min eggs [13:10] im breakfasting coockis and mate [13:11] i woke up at 1pm and skipped breakfast :P [13:12] nah - you had breakfast [13:12] you didn't have it early is all :) [13:32] nah ;) [13:37] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_real_baseline.png [13:38] o hai pleia2 [13:38] sneaky [13:39] me? :P [13:40] mhmm [13:40] hah [13:40] your idle time is less than 5mins -> busted [13:40] i know. [13:40] :) [13:41] knome, there are a bunch of entries to "translate" are just the names of programs, and those are just the same [13:41] GridCube, then translate them to the same strings [13:41] i did that P: [13:49] elfy, i'll mark your mail "critical" [13:49] elfy, if i haven't answered in a week, poke me [13:50] knome, what have i have to do whit this; lightdm [13:50] most probably just keep as it is [13:50] Simple session-locker for [13:51] thats the next one, do i translate the text? [13:51] translate everything else than [13:51] k [13:51] you can look up the actual string if you test-build the documentation [13:51] and open the appropriate page [13:51] so you know how to format that string if it's not obvious how to do it with your language [13:54] pleia2, hrm [13:54] pleia2, when haz time? [13:54] in a bit [13:54] let's schedule a website-marketing sprint.. [13:55] not sure i have time "in a bit" [13:55] later today? [13:55] yeah [13:55] anything that works particularly well or bad for you? [13:55] being owned by puppet and fedora at the moment [13:56]