[01:32] <misingnoglic> Hi, I'm trying to get my computer to connect to wireless networks but that doesn't seem to be an option in the connecting area, how do I enable that?
[02:27] <yuitimothy> Does anyone know how to change the system proxy setting in xubuntu?
[02:29] <avansledright> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[03:03] <yuitimothy> @avansledright Thanks. Big help
[03:04] <avansledright> no problem. did it work?
[03:04] <yuitimothy> yep
[03:04] <avansledright> awesome!
[05:55] <xubuntu730> hiall
[05:56] <xubuntu730>  I've recently installed XUbuntu 12.04.4 LTS on my desktop
[05:56] <xubuntu730> However I have one problem- I am unable to shutdown or reboot properly.
[05:57] <xubuntu730> how can i fix this
[05:57] <xubuntu730> any help would be great
[05:59] <SirLagz> what happens when you try to shutdown
[06:19] <xubuntu730> the hardware dows not shut down, fans keep on moving, CPU is oon, i have to manually press power button to shut down the CPU
[06:20] <xubuntu730> Also when i select reboot menu the computer does not reboot. I have to hold down power button to shut it down and again press power button to start the desktop.
[07:10] <xubuntu480> asd
[11:13] <skippezot> could someone explain how to instal this plugin : https://code.launchpad.net/~pmarchwiak/synapse-project/recoll-plugin
[11:48] <knome> skippezot, first, it looks like that plugin is unmaintained; second, it would involve building the package
[11:49] <skippezot> thx for reply
[11:50] <knome> that being said... i'm not sure if it's worth doing that.
[11:50] <skippezot> you know where i can find info on building packages
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !packaging|skippezot,
[11:51] <knome> not that...
[11:51] <knome> !build
[11:51] <knome> skippezot, ^  that would be a generic guide
[11:51] <skippezot> cheers
[11:52] <knome> skippezot, briefly: pull the code from bzr (launchpad), run 'make' (usually) and 'sudo make install' (usually, installs package to all users and to the standard locatios; WARNING: you can't revert this 'installation' easily unless the Makefiles has such a feature)
[11:59] <skippezot> thx man so it's like I read on forum wasn't really sure
[11:59] <skippezot> need to read a bit more before i'll give it a try
[13:04] <GridCube> in 13.04 whenever i changed my wallpaper the lightdm login wallpaper changed as well, since i updated to 13.10 this does not happen any more,  and i don't see any option on lightdm.conf to enable this feature back
[15:41] <GridCube> in 13.04 whenever i changed my wallpaper the lightdm login wallpaper changed as well, since i updated to 13.10 this does not happen any more,  and i don't see any option on lightdm.conf to enable this feature back
[16:06] <sohail-ahmed> I am having trouble connecting to internet with my laptop which was previously working fine
[16:06] <sohail-ahmed> would somebody help?
[16:06] <GridCube> !details | sohail-ahmed
[16:07] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: define "previously" a bit more.. previsously in windows? before a system upgrade? just randomly and it could be a hardware failure?
[16:09] <sohail-ahmed> I did a xubunutu install perhaps a year ago and every thing was fine, then suddenly a month ago it stopped working. At present I dont have those indicator plugin, those up and down arrows, used to switch connection, perhaps due to network manager
[16:10] <sohail-ahmed> the funny thing is I was able to ping machines on lan, when I was in the office and also I was able to ping the address 4.2.2.2
[16:10] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: if i didnt nothing to cause the issue, like a system upgrade, i would waant to rule out hardware failure
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed> read my last sentence plz, it says something do you still think it is a hardware failure
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed> at above I was talking about today
[16:11] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i read it, and the others.. carefully. im saying, i personally would rule out *all* hardware issues.. the router.. my isp, my networking device.. i would do this by troubleshoting carefully
[16:12] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, try re-adding the plugin indicator to your panel
[16:12] <sohail-ahmed> I already did
[16:12] <GridCube> also try to launch nm-connection-editor from a terminal
[16:12] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: did what?
[16:12] <GridCube> removing all the known connections and re-doing them might fix some problems
[16:12] <sohail-ahmed> I tried to add the idicator plugin from the panel add items but the arrows does appear
[16:13] <GridCube> make sure that your wifi is turned on
[16:13] <sohail-ahmed> actually I reinstalled the network manager
[16:13] <sohail-ahmed> by downloading the .debs
[16:13] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: what debs? from where?
[16:13] <GridCube> check that you have internet if you cable your notebook
[16:14] <sohail-ahmed> at present my directory for system-connections at /etc/NetworkManager/ does not have any connection
[16:14] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i would use a live CD to rule out my config, and test my hardware
[16:15] <sohail-ahmed> I have already plugged in the internet cable and its not [picking it up. as before the auto ethernet is not working
[16:15] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: sure.. thats what makes me think isp, or router/modem
[16:15] <sohail-ahmed> since there is no connection by that name in the /etc/NetworkManger/system-connection
[16:15] <sohail-ahmed> no. I am talking to you from the same router
[16:16] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: what deb did you install? and how/why?
[16:16] <holstein> have you tried a live CD?
[16:16] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, nm-connection-editor says the program is not installed
[16:17] <sohail-ahmed> no I have not ttried live cd.
[16:17] <sohail-ahmed> is it the only option left?
[16:17] <sohail-ahmed> and the question instead is , what would I do If the live CD internet connection worked
[16:18] <GridCube> reinstall ?
[16:18] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: you would know soemthing about where the issue is
[16:18] <sohail-ahmed> opssssssss!!!!!!!!!!11
[16:18] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: thats would tell you the hardware isnt failing
[16:18] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, if you dont have nm-connection-editor there is something very wrong
[16:18] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, do you have nmcli ¿?
[16:19] <Kimary> Hello someone speak italian?
[16:19] <GridCube> !it | Kimary
[16:19] <GridCube> :D
[16:19] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, when I typed nmcli it says error while loading shared libraries....
[16:19] <sohail-ahmed> holstein, how would I proceed?
[16:20] <sohail-ahmed> if I know about the issue
[16:20] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, it looks like there is your issue
[16:20] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i would load a live CD.. run it live, not installing. test my internet connections wired/wireles... then, i would know the issue is in my installed system, or bad hardware
[16:20] <sohail-ahmed> I already mentioned that today after a couple of minutes of working I manged to ping my lan pcs in office, and also I was able to ping the address 4.2.2.2
[16:20] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, i would try to boot the machine using an old kernel if available
[16:21] <holstein> older kernels should be accessible from grub when holding shift after the bios screens
[16:21] <GridCube> ^^^
[16:22] <GridCube> but then again, as holstein is saying you might want to try a livecd anyway, if that works then you have the option of figuring whats wrong and fixing it, or reinstalling and override everything
[16:22] <sohail-ahmed> which kernert should I boot to: plenty of them are available from 3.5.0-45- gnereic to 3.5.0-23
[16:23] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, an older one
[16:23] <sohail-ahmed> 23?
[16:23] <GridCube> sure why not
[16:23] <sohail-ahmed> for 23 I have two options, with recovery mode or without recovery mode
[16:23] <GridCube> without
[16:25] <sohail-ahmed> the xubuntu splash screen says waiting for network configuration...
[16:25] <sohail-ahmed> waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration
[16:25] <GridCube> can't you escape it?
[16:26] <sohail-ahmed> yes when I pressed esc, it went to the black screen and now my login is avaialble, I think it booted without network configuation as it is doing earlier
[16:27] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, welp
[16:27] <sohail-ahmed> welp??? sorry?
[16:28] <GridCube> its like saying "well, i dont know then"
[16:28] <sohail-ahmed> I have my desktop and actually the same desktop with internet arrows.
[16:29] <sohail-ahmed> sorry without
[16:29] <sohail-ahmed> *** without
[16:30] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, something went wrong, maybe the kernel update changed your setting and by installing the nm debs you broke the setting further, anyway, as holstein said, test using a livesession, if things work you can rule out hardware issues, then is a matter of getting yourself to study how to fix the problem or reinstall
[16:31] <sohail-ahmed> would you tell me one thing?
[16:31] <sohail-ahmed> I have a network indicator plugin, the one showing the packets going out and going in.
[16:32] <sohail-ahmed> the bars in that plugin are not moving now but they were moving in the morning when I was in the office, where I tried to do ping -c4 192.168.9.135
[16:32] <sohail-ahmed> and I got 0% loss
[16:32] <sohail-ahmed> packet loss actually.
[16:33] <sohail-ahmed> So my question is: does this not confirm that my card is working perfectly alright
[16:33] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[16:34] <GridCube> i do not know
[16:36] <sohail-ahmed> ok tell me one thing, if the live cd internet worked then what should I do afterward?
[16:36] <GridCube> if things work you can rule out hardware issues, then is a matter of getting yourself to study how to fix the problem or reinstall
[16:37] <sohail-ahmed> can you tell how to add connections when there is no indicator plugin for internet?
[16:40] <sohail-ahmed> ok I will be right back after making a live linux usb from windows
[16:40] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, using nm-connection-editor or nmcli
[16:41] <sohail-ahmed> but I already told you that none of them is working
[16:42] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: its a fact that something is not working.. the question is, why?
[16:42] <sohail-ahmed> and I purged the network manager this morning
[16:42] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: rule out hardware.. it wont take long, and its a good/easy step
[16:42] <sohail-ahmed> Ok mates I will be right back
[16:42] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: then, you can decide if you'd like to try and repair, or reinstall.. or troubleshoot in a larger support channel
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> larger support channel?
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> what do you mean by larger support chanel
[16:43] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: yes.. #ubuntu ,since this is not related to XFCE or xubuntu necessarily, youcan try the main channel for more action
[16:44] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: though, i feel after the live CD, you will have an idea that the hardware works or not, and you can go from there
[16:44] <sohail-ahmed> oh you are saying that If its not an hardware issue then I should go the #ubuntu chanel with my problem? correct?
[16:44] <holstein> any kernel upgrade can cause the drivers to change, and break something
[16:44] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: no
[16:45] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: im saying, the #ubuntu channel is factually more active.. and you may find more help there.. and you are not haveing an issue with xubuntu or xfce, so, that could be a helpful option for you
[16:45] <sohail-ahmed> Ok. thanks I will first update you here.
[17:01] <sohail-ahmed> holstein, and GridCube I have checked that I can access internet through live usb
[17:02] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: so, you can assume, at least for the length of testing, the hardware was functioning properly,and its likely not a hardware failure
[17:02] <sohail-ahmed> So it possible to repair my installation through live usb
[17:02] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[17:02] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, then there is some software issue, as holstein said, you might have better help gettin someone who knows this issues on #ubuntu or you can reinstall
[17:02] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: so, it could have been an upgrade that "broke" support for the device.. i didnt check the scroll back, but did you try the older kernel?
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> yes I did
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> actually the most older one
[17:03] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: what i suggest to users is this.. since *all* hard drives fail, go ahead and take this opportunity to backup your data.. and be read for reinstallation.. then, you can go forward with *any* option
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> so I repeat my question, is it possible to do a damage control using a live usb
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[17:05] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: above *is* what i suggest for that
[17:06] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: anything i would do like that would be *after* having properly backed up my data
[17:06] <sohail-ahmed> I need some enlightment, I clicked install xubuntu in my live usb sesssion, and now I have couple of options to choose from since the live usb has detected my ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:07] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: that will fresh install and wipe your data
[17:07] <sohail-ahmed> upgrade ubuntu to Xubuntu 13.10
[17:07] <sohail-ahmed> is it wise option to go for??
[17:07] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: factually, as i said, that will wipe your data
[17:08] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: so, ifyou have your data backed up, and want to install 13.10, then that will happen
[17:08] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: there is no specific "wise" choice.. just what you want or need, and what you can do
[17:08] <sohail-ahmed> so not an option.. though in the applet it says it will keep my personal files and by this I assume he meant the whole /home directory. correct???
[17:09] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i backup my data.. i suggest you backup your data, and suggested that before.. what is that process fails?
[17:09] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: whatever hard drive you are on *will* fail, so, it is not a waste of time to prepare for that
[17:10] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: then, having prepared for what will occur at some point in the future will prepare you for a failure now
[17:10] <sohail-ahmed> frankly I have no way to transfereing data to some other hard drive.
[17:10] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: ok.. then, you accept the risk, and no that, even if this works OK, some time you *will* lose your data
[17:11] <holstein> i cant guarantee that step will work and preserve your data.. i can gurantee that if you have a backup
[17:13] <sohail-ahmed> I think before attempting this step, as both of you have kindly suggested , go to #ubuntu, since its their flavor that has an issue.
[17:13] <holstein> sure.. but, even in #ubuntu, that hard drive will fail.. you should have a backup of your files..
[17:13] <holstein> then, anything you try, you can recover from.. otherwise, you have no gurantee like that..
[17:14] <holstein> a fresh install *will* fix it.. for example
[17:15] <sohail-ahmed> I have an intution that the problem could be fixed without going through a major install, though I am still a noob with linux
[17:17] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: no doubt.. its all open, and im sure you can fix it.. but, it may take less time to properly backup (which should be done regardless) and reinstall..
[17:19] <sohail-ahmed> the problem with reinstall is that I would be needing to reinstall all the softwares that are currently installed on my machine, regardless of the backup
[17:19] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: sure, which will also be happening when that hard drive fails
[17:20] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: you can create a list of those.. or use synaptic package manager to create a list of those that can be easily duplicated in a fresh install
[17:49] <xubuntu149> Hi, I have a question : since my HDD is dead, i would like to know if it is possible to install Xubuntu on a 16GB SD card instead?
[17:54] <knome> yes
[17:54] <xubuntu149> Just the same way i would install it on a hdd or is there anything more to do?
[17:55] <knome> the same way will do
[17:55] <xubuntu149> thanks
[17:55] <knome> as long as the installer recognizes the SD card, you are fine
[17:55] <xubuntu149> ok thanks a lot
[17:55] <knome> no problem, good luck
[17:56] <Giant81_> can someone give me a quick run down on DNS and how it works in xubuntu?  I'm on xubuntu 13.10 and the biggest problem is that the resolv.conf is not what it used to be I guess
[17:59] <knome> Giant81_, so... what's the actual problem?
[18:00] <Giant81_> I'm reading now
[18:01] <Giant81_> but I was trying to figure out what my DNS servers were via CLI, then change them if needed
[18:01] <xubuntu943> hi
[18:01] <Giant81_> it used to be fairly simple, modify /etc/resolv.conf  but it appears it's gotten more involved with resolfconf etc..
[18:01] <Giant81_> just a new way of doing things that I'm learning to use
[18:02] <knome> Giant81_, why not edit the DNS servers via the network manager?
[18:02] <Giant81_> sorry I'm a bit of a cli monkey, or when SSHed in from remote
[18:03] <knome> nmcli
[18:05] <Giant81_> ty I'll hit the man pages
[18:13] <xubuntu533> holaaaaaa
[18:16] <GridCube> !es | xubuntu533
[18:25] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, holstein, I am final able to get it done without a shred to reinstalling, all I just needed to do was: sudo ifup eth0. Thanks for you time, God bless you both
[18:25] <GridCube> lol sohail-ahmed
[18:25] <GridCube> nice that XD
[18:30] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, I still don't have those network arrows, but I have noticed that internet is working really fast
[18:31] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, now you should try again nm-connection-editor
[18:31] <sohail-ahmed> its not installed since I dont have network-manager installed
[18:33] <GridCube> well, now you have internet, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install network-manager
[18:33] <GridCube> that should bring back the arrows you see in the indicators plugin
[18:36] <sohail-ahmed> I have already done the update, and I think I should not install network-manager since it manges my networ poorly, moreover I am having a great bandwidth now which I have never encountered here at home.
[18:37] <sohail-ahmed> rather I should not have said poorly, without network-manager, I have learned a great deal about the linux
[18:38] <GridCube> :)
[18:38] <sohail-ahmed> do you know of a way to add more connections?
[18:38] <sohail-ahmed> without network-manager?
[18:44] <GridCube> nope
[19:03] <wabbla> sohail-ahmed: what do you mean by more connections? different ip-configurations on the same interface or different interfaces?
[19:13] <wabbla> in the latter you could add more interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup/ifdown to connect/disconnect, in the former you could also add new connections to /etc/network/interfaces, but use a logical name instead of the interface name. then you could use e.g. ifup eth0=<logical name>. see the man page for ifup regarding logical interfaces. this is a very comfortable feature for wlan roaming.
[19:19] <sohail-ahmed> wabbla, that's exactly what I was asking for!!
[19:19] <sohail-ahmed> many thanks!!
[19:20] <wabbla> you're welcome :-)
[19:38] <RuudKuin> Hi all, does someone know the correct way to install an Eizo driver via terminal? It looks very choppy, while it runs fine under Bodhi Linux...
[19:39] <RuudKuin> anyone???
[19:40] <RuudKuin> Hmmmm, no support, better be using Bodhi than, their IRC is very much alive, bye!!!
[19:41] <holstein> RuudKuin: ?
[19:41] <holstein> RuudKuin: what distro are you using.. try patiently using the suggested support for the distro you are using.. but, the Eizo driver creator would be the best place to start for suport
[19:41] <RuudKuin> holstein: do you have an answer?
[19:42] <RuudKuin> Xubuntu, that's why I'm here...
[19:43] <RuudKuin> Bodhi gave no problems, it's an Ubuntu derivative as well...
[19:43] <holstein> RuudKuin: nothing about xubuntu or bodhi is preventing the creators of the Eizo driver from giving you a package that installs
[19:44] <holstein> RuudKuin: you would need to share more details, like, what you are trying and what the errors are.. but, if you are not using xubuntu, bodhi channels are the best place
[19:47] <RuudKuin> holstein: I'm currently using a fresh install of Xubuntu, because it's light for an oldtimer PC and runs XFCE, but it seems that it doesn't support an Eizo Nanao 15" screen.
[19:47] <holstein> RuudKuin: ive never needed a driver for a screen.. but, i have used custom xorg.conf files to send necessary confiuration to certain monitors
[19:48] <RuudKuin> Radial gradients are choppy and very ugly, when running Bodhi, there was pre-installed support for that same screen
[19:48] <holstein> RuudKuin: its likely not the screen at all then.. its more likely the graphics card driver
[19:48] <holstein> RuudKuin: you could also be comparing a version of bodhi based on 12.04, and using xubuntu 13.10.. those would have different hardware support scnearios
[19:49] <RuudKuin> holstein: when searching for additional drivers, it doesn't tell me anything on the graphics card support... ;-((
[19:50] <holstein> RuudKuin: i would start by appying all upgrades and rebooting.. then, determine what graphics card you have, and looking for alternative drivers (proprietary drivers) you can install and try which may sort out your issues..
[19:50] <notwist> I'm using 14.04 and it's a pain that my screen blanks after 10 minutes, disabling screensaver and power management features does nothing. Is there a better way to solve this than editing xorg.conf ?
[19:51] <holstein> i would then also consider looking at the bodhi that you report working, and go with the xuubuntu version that is the same.. 12.04, for example
[19:51] <holstein> !14.04
[19:51] <RuudKuin> what's the terminal command of finding the right graphics card? holstein
[19:51] <notwist> holstein: thanks
[19:51] <holstein> RuudKuin: lspci is the command that lists the devices.. you should only have one graphics card..
[19:53] <RuudKuin> holstein: thanks! Here's the output:
[19:53] <holstein> RuudKuin: i dont need it
[19:53] <RuudKuin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[19:53] <holstein> RuudKuin: intel are usually well supported, but, i think you are assuming the issue is with the monitor
[19:53] <RuudKuin> thanks anyway! Bye for now...
[19:53] <holstein> RuudKuin: i would try 1204
[19:54]  * RuudKuin out!
[19:54] <holstein> RuudKuin: bodhi is based on 12.04, and if you have older hardware, that may be the distro that supports your device out of the box
[19:59] <xubuntu408> hello
[19:59] <xubuntu408> can anybody help me
[19:59] <holstein> xubuntu408: just ask.. and a volunteer will help if they can
[20:00] <xubuntu408> I have a prblem downloading films
[20:00] <holstein> xubuntu408: nothing about xubuntu is preventing you from downloading anything.. what types of files? are you sure its not on the server side where the problem is? or permission related?
[20:02] <xubuntu408> I try to download a file from piratebay and when I click the magnet download should start but I get a small window which says: start application. And in this window <i have to choose the application but I can not find transmission
[20:03] <holstein> xubuntu408: those sites are notorious for malware, or missing files..
[20:03] <holstein> xubuntu408: i suggest you ask the content creator for a copy, or, read up on torrent downloading
[20:04] <holstein> !torrent
[20:05] <xubuntu408> when I used Windows I didn't have any problem with downloading but now with xubuntu it doesn't work
[20:07] <xubuntu408> I use Transmission, the download program included in ubuntu
[20:09] <holstein> xubuntu408: you are *not* trying to download anything from "the pirate bay".. you get a torrent, then, transmission is one of the clients that can use the link you got from the pirate bay to download the file from peers
[20:10] <holstein> xubuntu408: the torrent client you used in windows was different.. windows is differnt..
[20:10] <holstein> xubuntu408: see the link above to learn about how to use transsmission and/or torrents.. otherwise, ask the creator of the file for a copy of the file you are looking for that you can use
[20:10] <xubuntu408> ok this i understand
[20:13] <xubuntu408> thnx, I will try and ultimately be succesfull
[22:00] <Sweyn> Hey guys, somebody out there to help a xubuntu beginner ?
[22:00] <holstein> Sweyn: welcome!.. just ask and a volunteer may be able to help
[22:02] <Sweyn> Thank you, well, I was planning to install xubuntu on my chromebook, to extend its possibilities, planning to install it on a 32 gb usb drive, any ideas if it is enough to run WINE if necessary ?
[22:06] <holstein> Sweyn: i just got the 32gb chromebook you are likely talking about.. nothing about xubuntu is preventing you from running it there, and utilizing wine
[22:06] <holstein> Sweyn: i personally dont make decisions based on wine support or use, since it can be challenging to predict what can or might work properly
[22:07] <Sweyn> Ok I see, well in a way its a relief
[22:07] <Sweyn> I wanted to play some small games on it
[22:07] <Sweyn> just another thing
[22:07] <holstein> Sweyn: and, as im saying, nothing is preventing that
[22:08] <Sweyn> I can't seem to access to the ubuntu "store" don't know how its called in english, I'm french, when I open it, it closes right after, is it because I'm on a usb drive ?
[22:08] <holstein> !fr
[22:09] <Sweyn> (did my message got blocked ?)
[22:09] <holstein> Sweyn: could be for any reason from internet connectivity, to who knows
[22:09] <Sweyn> oh ok, still I think I'll have some trouble to get used to this
[22:09] <Sweyn> I can't even install flash player
[22:09] <Sweyn> don't know how to do it
[22:09] <holstein> !flash
[22:09] <holstein> i use the chrome brwoser, since it has its own flash
[22:10] <Sweyn> Oh ok, did you download it from the xubuntu store or from google's netpage ?
[22:10] <holstein> Sweyn: chome is not available from the ubuntu repositories
[22:11] <Sweyn> OK, I'm trying this out
[22:16] <DamadFR> holstein: Chromium browser is available in the universe repositories - I had it installed it from the package manager.
[22:20] <holstein> DamadFR: yup.. and i am referencing the chrome browser..
[22:20] <holstein> DamadFR: the chrome brwoser is the one with flash built in, though, one can use the pepperflash included in chrome with chromium, and you are welcome to share with Sweyn how to do that
[22:21] <holstein> otherwise, one of the easiest ways for a new user to get the latest flash in linux is in the chrome browser.. not that im saying chrome is "good" or "better"
[22:21] <Sweyn> Well seems firefox made the update itself, I can now read videos on youtube
[22:22] <Sweyn> Holstein, I don't know if you have the same chromebook as me but does it have a x86 cpu ?
[22:22] <holstein> Sweyn: i have an intel precessor. .not an ARM
[22:23] <Sweyn> Okay fine, did you tried some small games with it ?
[22:23] <DamadFR> holstein: sorry, so I mixed things up: chrome / chromium
[22:23] <holstein> Sweyn: as i said, i literallly just got it.. ive had it about 35 minutes.. im not planning on gaming. nor did i intend to use it for games.. nothing about xubuntu is preventing you from gaming with it
[22:24] <holstein> DamadFR: no worries :)
[22:24] <Sweyn> Ok then, guess I'll have to find out by myself, when I'll manage to make it install on my usb flash
[22:25] <Sweyn> these celerons appear to be quite powerfull though
[22:25] <holstein> Sweyn: xubuntu playes the games linux is allowed to have
[22:25] <holstein> Sweyn: the hardware is not intended for gaming in any OS, but, if the specs work, it'll work
[22:25] <Sweyn> Yup, I'll try by myself, or look for tests somewhere
[22:26] <Sweyn> Still, I'm not entirely convinced in my chromebook
[22:26] <Sweyn> it runs fine
[22:26] <Sweyn> but without internet you're pretty much with a dead brick
[22:26] <holstein> it runs "as advertised"... the only reason you would be unsure is by trying to make it replace a gaming rig
[22:27] <holstein> but, xubuntu will run on there are well, as advertised.. steam should support the lower-end games on here fine
[22:27] <Sweyn> yeah sure, I don't wanna use it to hard games, I already have my desktop for that, but if it can replace a little some times, it would be nice that way !
[22:31] <Sweyn> Where does USB flash drives appear in xubuntu please ?
[22:34] <holstein> Sweyn: i just use the file manager
[22:34] <Sweyn> well seems like it doesn't appear, because I'm already on it ...
[22:34] <Sweyn> Maybe there's some limitations on using the OS on a usb key
[22:34] <Sweyn> that would make sense
[22:35] <Sweyn> okay then, I think I have everything I need to know
[22:35] <Sweyn> I hope I'll manage to get it working on my laptop
[22:36] <Sweyn> Thanks Holstein, I'll probably ask you fore some help later, Bye !
[22:37] <xubuntu610> buona sera a tutti
[22:38] <xubuntu610> c'è qualcuno disposto ad aiutarmi?
[22:38] <knome> !it | xubuntu610
[22:39] <xubuntu610>  /join #ubuntu-it