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wxlone: no need for a private message00:12
oneIs there any way to use 8.8.8.8 to echo the ip address back?00:17
oneI want to make a little applet to display the external ip on the desktop at boot.00:18
wxlone: curl http://ipecho.net/plain00:19
oneIs root always able to loook into an user encrypted home directory?00:27
wxli would expect the answer to be no to that but i do not know00:27
oneI would have thought that is the idea of using enc home except root appears to be able to look into it.00:31
oneare there a lot of german speakers in dallas texas?00:44
oneTrying to figure out why there are pipes to verizon in texas00:46
oneWhat is the command to show which package a file belongs to?01:43
oneOr even just the location of the update-notofier ps -ax just shows the name and no path.01:45
Unit193dpkg -S `which update-notofier`01:46
oneunable to ping lo04:10
oneWhat may be the reason for this?04:11
oneThe netfilter doesn't seem to be setup right.04:11
oneIt is allowing all outgoing pings04:11
oneAnd pings out to the net work fine04:12
oneBut something is blocking pings to lo04:12
oneWhich is still perplexing considering mailx works without allowing smtp04:14
oneso pings to lo are getting dropped but smtp is allowed?04:15
onehmm04:20
duoiwhat is the minium system requirements for lubuntu?04:59
duois/minium/minimum04:59
wxlnot much, duoi. whatcha got?04:59
duoiwxl, 1GB HDD space04:59
wxlduoi: oh, well, that's a problem. XD05:00
wxlduoi: typically i think you need 8gb but there's ways around that05:02
wxlduoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall05:03
duoiwxl, all of the documentation seems to focus on memory instead of storage. minimum requirements dont even mention storage :/05:03
wxlduoi: unfortunately i don't think we've documented how much hard drive space core or desktop would take up05:04
wxlduoi: that's because storage is crazzy cheap!05:04
wxli mean honestly i can't remember the last time i saw a 1gb hdd05:04
wxland i'm surrounded by old stuff XD05:04
ianorlinthe last time I saw a 2 gb one the computer didn't even have an ethernet port and no wireless05:05
Unit193I could walk into the basement and pull one out for you, wxl.05:05
wxlright05:05
wxlUnit193: you know some fancy trick to figure out the total installed/package sizes of lubuntu-core and its dependencies?05:05
duoiheh, all i can spare is 1GB for this VM. my total storage space on this machine is 64gb, and you can imagine that id have very little left after windows and a few programs05:06
Unit193wxl: No fancy tricks, though I have something else that would be about the same.05:06
ianorlinyou can install on a usb hdd if you want to05:06
wxlduoi: easy solution→kill windows05:06
wxlUnit193: i'm all ears05:06
ianorlinbut may need plop then05:06
wxl+1 ianorlin05:06
ianorlinseriously you can get a massive 1tb for like 80 bucks as a 2.5" drive and not have to plug it in to a power source05:07
Unit193duoi: Is this ssd?05:08
duoiUnit193, yes05:08
Unit193Figured, with that size.05:08
wxl:)05:08
duoiproprietary too. so i cant upgrade it. thanks obama.05:08
wxlum?05:09
wxlis it part of obamacare or something?05:09
* ianorlin doesn't see what obama has to do with any of this05:10
duoihttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama05:10
wxlDUDE I JUST FOUND THE AIRPLANE IN MY HARD DRIVE05:10
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oneWhy does the rhythmbox ddap share default to listening on an ipv6 port?06:52
oneIt is creating usage problems confsidering my filters are set for inet only at present06:53
oneIs there a way to change it to listen on an ip4 port?06:53
oneAlso the empathy bonjour.06:55
onethere are no ipv6 interfaces up and it still binds to tcp607:00
onehey07:02
onehey!07:02
onehey ya ya ya07:02
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hannerhi, what is the default username/pw for the live session? screensaver locked me out during installation wizard :/10:10
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nchHi there, does anyone knows a good GUI for GPG in Lubuntu? Kgpg asks me for several of related files I dont want to install. (Sorry if the question is irrelevant :-) I'm new in town :-) )19:09
wxl!search gpg19:09
ubottuFound: gpg, keyserver, torgpg, torsasl, tor-gpg, gpgerr, ppagpg, pgp, tor-sasl, badsig and 1 more, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=gpg19:09
wxloh that's not what i wanted silly19:10
Unit193nch: seahourse isn't so bad.19:10
Unit193seahorse*19:10
nchThank you for the suggestion Unit193, I'll give it a try. ;)19:12
FuuqUmiistwhat do you type to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10?19:32
Unit193You can either use the upgrade-manager, or  do-release-upgrade19:33
holsteinyup.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/368738/update-to-13-10-without-gui-access19:34
holsteini would rather fresh install..19:34
FuuqUmiistfresh install wasn't working properly, i wasted 5 dvds trying to fresh install19:35
holsteini usually waste 5+ hours trying to upgrade ;)19:40
FuuqUmiisti can just upgrade then come back 5 hours later right?19:42
holsteinFuuqUmiist: as i said, i just fresh install.. im not sure what you can do.. depends on network speed, etc19:43
FuuqUmiistor do i have to enter and click things throughout the 5 hours?19:43
Unit193Depends, sometimes it does ask questions as to if it should overwrite a file.19:44
Unit193(Doesn't normally take 5hours for me at least, depends on connection and other factors.)19:44
holsteinUnit193: you get in under an hour?19:45
Unit193holstein: Don't think that fast. :P19:45
Unit193Depends on the mirror too.19:45
holsteinyeah.. thats true19:45
holsteini assume its always on my end where the bottleneck is19:45
Unit193speedtest.net or cachefly, and see how much slower the archive is.19:46
FuuqUmiisti think lubuntu froze when it restarted after the upgrade20:38
FuuqUmiistomg, the upgrade didn't work20:45
holsteinFuuqUmiist: upgrades can fail.. depends on many things, such as your network setup21:18
holsteinregardless, i'll usually test a live CD anyways.. "dont work" is not enough information for me to propose what could have happened21:18
holsteintypically, i'll try tty21:18
holstein!tty21:18
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution21:18
holsteinto see if the system is there, and not reponding graphically, or whatever.. could be as simple as the graphics card not being supported in 13.1021:19
FuuqUmiistlubuntu wouldn't even boot21:19
holsteini would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference21:19
holsteinFuuqUmiist: wont boot in what way? hardware failure? bad hard drive? grub not responding? noX? recovery console working?21:20
FuuqUmiistit stalls at the lubuntu screen, or sometimes will just remain blank21:21
phillw(21:19:31) holstein: i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference21:21
phillw+121:21
holsteinFuuqUmiist: and you can tty? or no? and the recovery console? have you tried the vesa driver? or safe graphics mode?21:22
FuuqUmiistactually i just finished reinstall 13.0421:22
holstein13.04 is EOL21:22
FuuqUmiisti know, buts its the only dvd that works21:22
holsteinthats not true here21:23
holsteinyou would have to ask a question to get support.. like "i burn DVD's like this and this happens"21:23
holsteinsaying they dont work, is a statement21:23
holsteini installed 13.10 and 14.04 lubuntu from DVD here21:23
FuuqUmiistmy the dvd drive is failing or something21:24
holsteinFuuqUmiist: so, thats nothing to do with the iso or the product them21:24
holsteinthen*21:24
FuuqUmiistbut the upgrade didn't work too21:25
holsteinFuuqUmiist: the DVD is *not* failing in that scenario, if that is true.. the optical drive is.. what do i do in that scenario? i'll take the drive to another machine and install, then put the drive back21:25
holsteinFuuqUmiist: i prefer fresh installs over upgrades..21:25
holsteinyou could be having any graphics issue, like the one i mentioned above, and you wouldnt know if support has been dropped from the kernel for your hardware21:27
FuuqUmiisti think i'll jsut use 13.04 for this computer since the computer won't be using the internet much, and the other computers i'll just keep with windows21:27
holsteinagain, i would use 14.04 at this point21:28
holsteinbut, i'll just wait til you have a support question21:28
FuuqUmiistyeah, but its not released, maybe i'll try it in the future when i have time21:28
holsteinFuuqUmiist: it *is* available..21:28
holsteinive probably had 5 successful 14.04 installs since you have been coming here about that machine21:30
FuuqUmiistwhere is the iso21:31
holsteinneither 13.04 nor 14.04 are officially supported.. at least 14.04 is scheduled for support, and it will get years of support21:31
holsteinhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/21:32
holsteinhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/beta-1/21:32
holstein!14.0421:33
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+121:33
holsteini shouldnt say there is no support for 14.04..21:33
FuuqUmiistit is updated daily, i think i'll just use the stable 13.03 since i know it installs and works21:34
holsteinFuuqUmiist: 13.04* is not "stable".. its EOL21:34
holsteinFuuqUmiist: its dead.. not supported any more.. its ended21:34
FuuqUmiistas along as you can watch movies, listen to music, type up documents, it should be fine for now21:36
holsteinyou shouldnt do *anything* with it.. besides replace it with a supported operating system.. you shouldnt have it online at all.. but, you will probably be, fine..21:36
holsteinits just not fair, or accurate to consider it "stable" when its EOL21:37
FuuqUmiistit probably won't be online much, i think they will use it mainly to watch movies and listen to music with, maybe typing up some documents21:37
holsteinas long as you dont consider, or state that its stable in anyway.. or consider or state it as safe, or supported.. its EOL21:38
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onejoin ##kernel22:41
FuuqUmiisthow do you remove abiword without removing lubuntu-desktop23:42
Unit193You don't, you let lubuntu-desktop go too.23:42
FuuqUmiistthat sucks23:44
Unit193Why?23:45
Unit193!meta23:45
Unit193!metapackage23:46
ubottuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.23:46
FuuqUmiistso if i remove lubuntu-desktop what software will be removed?23:47
FuuqUmiistthe good thing about lxde is that there wasn't too much integration23:49
FuuqUmiistUnit193 do you know how to make a folder shortcut on the panel?23:51
Unit193If you remove lubuntu-deskop, you lost nothing.23:52
FuuqUmiistoh ok23:52
Unit193I tend to like desktop files telling pcmanfm to open them, but you can also just use a common link.23:53
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