| === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward | ||
| wxl | one: no need for a private message | 00:12 |
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| one | Is there any way to use 8.8.8.8 to echo the ip address back? | 00:17 |
| one | I want to make a little applet to display the external ip on the desktop at boot. | 00:18 |
| wxl | one: curl http://ipecho.net/plain | 00:19 |
| one | Is root always able to loook into an user encrypted home directory? | 00:27 |
| wxl | i would expect the answer to be no to that but i do not know | 00:27 |
| one | I would have thought that is the idea of using enc home except root appears to be able to look into it. | 00:31 |
| one | are there a lot of german speakers in dallas texas? | 00:44 |
| one | Trying to figure out why there are pipes to verizon in texas | 00:46 |
| one | What is the command to show which package a file belongs to? | 01:43 |
| one | Or even just the location of the update-notofier ps -ax just shows the name and no path. | 01:45 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -S `which update-notofier` | 01:46 |
| one | unable to ping lo | 04:10 |
| one | What may be the reason for this? | 04:11 |
| one | The netfilter doesn't seem to be setup right. | 04:11 |
| one | It is allowing all outgoing pings | 04:11 |
| one | And pings out to the net work fine | 04:12 |
| one | But something is blocking pings to lo | 04:12 |
| one | Which is still perplexing considering mailx works without allowing smtp | 04:14 |
| one | so pings to lo are getting dropped but smtp is allowed? | 04:15 |
| one | hmm | 04:20 |
| duoi | what is the minium system requirements for lubuntu? | 04:59 |
| duoi | s/minium/minimum | 04:59 |
| wxl | not much, duoi. whatcha got? | 04:59 |
| duoi | wxl, 1GB HDD space | 04:59 |
| wxl | duoi: oh, well, that's a problem. XD | 05:00 |
| wxl | duoi: typically i think you need 8gb but there's ways around that | 05:02 |
| wxl | duoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall | 05:03 |
| duoi | wxl, all of the documentation seems to focus on memory instead of storage. minimum requirements dont even mention storage :/ | 05:03 |
| wxl | duoi: unfortunately i don't think we've documented how much hard drive space core or desktop would take up | 05:04 |
| wxl | duoi: that's because storage is crazzy cheap! | 05:04 |
| wxl | i mean honestly i can't remember the last time i saw a 1gb hdd | 05:04 |
| wxl | and i'm surrounded by old stuff XD | 05:04 |
| ianorlin | the last time I saw a 2 gb one the computer didn't even have an ethernet port and no wireless | 05:05 |
| Unit193 | I could walk into the basement and pull one out for you, wxl. | 05:05 |
| wxl | right | 05:05 |
| wxl | Unit193: you know some fancy trick to figure out the total installed/package sizes of lubuntu-core and its dependencies? | 05:05 |
| duoi | heh, all i can spare is 1GB for this VM. my total storage space on this machine is 64gb, and you can imagine that id have very little left after windows and a few programs | 05:06 |
| Unit193 | wxl: No fancy tricks, though I have something else that would be about the same. | 05:06 |
| ianorlin | you can install on a usb hdd if you want to | 05:06 |
| wxl | duoi: easy solution→kill windows | 05:06 |
| wxl | Unit193: i'm all ears | 05:06 |
| ianorlin | but may need plop then | 05:06 |
| wxl | +1 ianorlin | 05:06 |
| ianorlin | seriously you can get a massive 1tb for like 80 bucks as a 2.5" drive and not have to plug it in to a power source | 05:07 |
| Unit193 | duoi: Is this ssd? | 05:08 |
| duoi | Unit193, yes | 05:08 |
| Unit193 | Figured, with that size. | 05:08 |
| wxl | :) | 05:08 |
| duoi | proprietary too. so i cant upgrade it. thanks obama. | 05:08 |
| wxl | um? | 05:09 |
| wxl | is it part of obamacare or something? | 05:09 |
| * ianorlin doesn't see what obama has to do with any of this | 05:10 | |
| duoi | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama | 05:10 |
| wxl | DUDE I JUST FOUND THE AIRPLANE IN MY HARD DRIVE | 05:10 |
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | ||
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | ||
| one | Why does the rhythmbox ddap share default to listening on an ipv6 port? | 06:52 |
| one | It is creating usage problems confsidering my filters are set for inet only at present | 06:53 |
| one | Is there a way to change it to listen on an ip4 port? | 06:53 |
| one | Also the empathy bonjour. | 06:55 |
| one | there are no ipv6 interfaces up and it still binds to tcp6 | 07:00 |
| one | hey | 07:02 |
| one | hey! | 07:02 |
| one | hey ya ya ya | 07:02 |
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | ||
| hanner | hi, what is the default username/pw for the live session? screensaver locked me out during installation wizard :/ | 10:10 |
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | ||
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | ||
| nch | Hi there, does anyone knows a good GUI for GPG in Lubuntu? Kgpg asks me for several of related files I dont want to install. (Sorry if the question is irrelevant :-) I'm new in town :-) ) | 19:09 |
| wxl | !search gpg | 19:09 |
| ubottu | Found: gpg, keyserver, torgpg, torsasl, tor-gpg, gpgerr, ppagpg, pgp, tor-sasl, badsig and 1 more, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=gpg | 19:09 |
| wxl | oh that's not what i wanted silly | 19:10 |
| Unit193 | nch: seahourse isn't so bad. | 19:10 |
| Unit193 | seahorse* | 19:10 |
| nch | Thank you for the suggestion Unit193, I'll give it a try. ;) | 19:12 |
| FuuqUmiist | what do you type to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10? | 19:32 |
| Unit193 | You can either use the upgrade-manager, or do-release-upgrade | 19:33 |
| holstein | yup.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/368738/update-to-13-10-without-gui-access | 19:34 |
| holstein | i would rather fresh install.. | 19:34 |
| FuuqUmiist | fresh install wasn't working properly, i wasted 5 dvds trying to fresh install | 19:35 |
| holstein | i usually waste 5+ hours trying to upgrade ;) | 19:40 |
| FuuqUmiist | i can just upgrade then come back 5 hours later right? | 19:42 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: as i said, i just fresh install.. im not sure what you can do.. depends on network speed, etc | 19:43 |
| FuuqUmiist | or do i have to enter and click things throughout the 5 hours? | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | Depends, sometimes it does ask questions as to if it should overwrite a file. | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | (Doesn't normally take 5hours for me at least, depends on connection and other factors.) | 19:44 |
| holstein | Unit193: you get in under an hour? | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | holstein: Don't think that fast. :P | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | Depends on the mirror too. | 19:45 |
| holstein | yeah.. thats true | 19:45 |
| holstein | i assume its always on my end where the bottleneck is | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | speedtest.net or cachefly, and see how much slower the archive is. | 19:46 |
| FuuqUmiist | i think lubuntu froze when it restarted after the upgrade | 20:38 |
| FuuqUmiist | omg, the upgrade didn't work | 20:45 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: upgrades can fail.. depends on many things, such as your network setup | 21:18 |
| holstein | regardless, i'll usually test a live CD anyways.. "dont work" is not enough information for me to propose what could have happened | 21:18 |
| holstein | typically, i'll try tty | 21:18 |
| holstein | !tty | 21:18 |
| ubottu | To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution | 21:18 |
| holstein | to see if the system is there, and not reponding graphically, or whatever.. could be as simple as the graphics card not being supported in 13.10 | 21:19 |
| FuuqUmiist | lubuntu wouldn't even boot | 21:19 |
| holstein | i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference | 21:19 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: wont boot in what way? hardware failure? bad hard drive? grub not responding? noX? recovery console working? | 21:20 |
| FuuqUmiist | it stalls at the lubuntu screen, or sometimes will just remain blank | 21:21 |
| phillw | (21:19:31) holstein: i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference | 21:21 |
| phillw | +1 | 21:21 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: and you can tty? or no? and the recovery console? have you tried the vesa driver? or safe graphics mode? | 21:22 |
| FuuqUmiist | actually i just finished reinstall 13.04 | 21:22 |
| holstein | 13.04 is EOL | 21:22 |
| FuuqUmiist | i know, buts its the only dvd that works | 21:22 |
| holstein | thats not true here | 21:23 |
| holstein | you would have to ask a question to get support.. like "i burn DVD's like this and this happens" | 21:23 |
| holstein | saying they dont work, is a statement | 21:23 |
| holstein | i installed 13.10 and 14.04 lubuntu from DVD here | 21:23 |
| FuuqUmiist | my the dvd drive is failing or something | 21:24 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: so, thats nothing to do with the iso or the product them | 21:24 |
| holstein | then* | 21:24 |
| FuuqUmiist | but the upgrade didn't work too | 21:25 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: the DVD is *not* failing in that scenario, if that is true.. the optical drive is.. what do i do in that scenario? i'll take the drive to another machine and install, then put the drive back | 21:25 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: i prefer fresh installs over upgrades.. | 21:25 |
| holstein | you could be having any graphics issue, like the one i mentioned above, and you wouldnt know if support has been dropped from the kernel for your hardware | 21:27 |
| FuuqUmiist | i think i'll jsut use 13.04 for this computer since the computer won't be using the internet much, and the other computers i'll just keep with windows | 21:27 |
| holstein | again, i would use 14.04 at this point | 21:28 |
| holstein | but, i'll just wait til you have a support question | 21:28 |
| FuuqUmiist | yeah, but its not released, maybe i'll try it in the future when i have time | 21:28 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: it *is* available.. | 21:28 |
| holstein | ive probably had 5 successful 14.04 installs since you have been coming here about that machine | 21:30 |
| FuuqUmiist | where is the iso | 21:31 |
| holstein | neither 13.04 nor 14.04 are officially supported.. at least 14.04 is scheduled for support, and it will get years of support | 21:31 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/ | 21:32 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/beta-1/ | 21:32 |
| holstein | !14.04 | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 | 21:33 |
| holstein | i shouldnt say there is no support for 14.04.. | 21:33 |
| FuuqUmiist | it is updated daily, i think i'll just use the stable 13.03 since i know it installs and works | 21:34 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: 13.04* is not "stable".. its EOL | 21:34 |
| holstein | FuuqUmiist: its dead.. not supported any more.. its ended | 21:34 |
| FuuqUmiist | as along as you can watch movies, listen to music, type up documents, it should be fine for now | 21:36 |
| holstein | you shouldnt do *anything* with it.. besides replace it with a supported operating system.. you shouldnt have it online at all.. but, you will probably be, fine.. | 21:36 |
| holstein | its just not fair, or accurate to consider it "stable" when its EOL | 21:37 |
| FuuqUmiist | it probably won't be online much, i think they will use it mainly to watch movies and listen to music with, maybe typing up some documents | 21:37 |
| holstein | as long as you dont consider, or state that its stable in anyway.. or consider or state it as safe, or supported.. its EOL | 21:38 |
| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohi | ||
| one | join ##kernel | 22:41 |
| FuuqUmiist | how do you remove abiword without removing lubuntu-desktop | 23:42 |
| Unit193 | You don't, you let lubuntu-desktop go too. | 23:42 |
| FuuqUmiist | that sucks | 23:44 |
| Unit193 | Why? | 23:45 |
| Unit193 | !meta | 23:45 |
| Unit193 | !metapackage | 23:46 |
| ubottu | A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions. | 23:46 |
| FuuqUmiist | so if i remove lubuntu-desktop what software will be removed? | 23:47 |
| FuuqUmiist | the good thing about lxde is that there wasn't too much integration | 23:49 |
| FuuqUmiist | Unit193 do you know how to make a folder shortcut on the panel? | 23:51 |
| Unit193 | If you remove lubuntu-deskop, you lost nothing. | 23:52 |
| FuuqUmiist | oh ok | 23:52 |
| Unit193 | I tend to like desktop files telling pcmanfm to open them, but you can also just use a common link. | 23:53 |
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | ||
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