[03:32] <jonahbron_> It looks like the QML HUD can't be tested on the desktop, is that right?
[03:33] <jonahbron_> I add the actions attribute to the MainView, but dragging my cursor only brings up the Toolbar, not the HUD.
[03:33] <jonahbron_> And there are no menu items.
[04:06] <jonahbron_> Any insight on the status of the HUD?  I've been reading bugs, and found this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1157213
[04:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1157213 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Port appmenu support to Qt5 QPA" [High,Fix released]
[04:06] <jonahbron_> I have the package version that says it is fixed in, so that must not be the right bug?  Or I'm doing it wrong?
[05:31] <Mirv> jonahbron_: I'm not a HUD expert, but that bug is about the menus being integrated in Unity, for example in Qt Creator
[05:31] <Mirv> ie at the top of the screen
[07:19] <dholbach> good morning
[09:30] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Common Courtesy Day! :-D
[09:31] <justCarakas> Good day to you sir
[09:33] <gcollura> nice, I can't connect to anongit.kde.org from my wifi university. Good morning JamesTait
[09:42] <ybon> dpm: there is an incoming sprint on the calendar app?
[09:42] <dpm> ybon, yeah, we're planning the core apps hacks next week. We'll be announcing it today
[09:43] <ybon> great! I will try to join
[09:43] <dpm> ybon, the hack day for calendar will be Wednesday, the 26th (next week)
[09:43] <dpm> ybon, awesome!
[09:43] <ybon> dpm: I've those two branch to finish https://code.launchpad.net/~yohanboniface/ubuntu-calendar-app/
[09:43] <dpm> ybon, I'm really looking forward to the agenda view!
[09:44] <ybon> the datepicker is also cool :)
[09:44] <ybon> It also allows you to change the date of the event
[09:44] <ybon> and thus to add an event from anywhere and chose the date
[09:44] <ybon> instead of needing to pick the date then add the event
[09:45] <ybon> also, the native DatePicker is much more convenient to use
[10:17] <gcollura> why ImageWithFallback isn't included in the API?
[10:18] <dpm> ybon, cool! Where do you stand with those branches? Are they ready for review, do you need any help?
[10:19] <dpm> hi gcollura, could you provide some more context on what you are trying to do, so that someone can have a go at helping you?
[10:20] <ybon> dpm: the DatePicker is blocker because I'm not able at the moment to autopilot test the native DatePicker
[10:20] <ybon> maybe it's now possible though, cc zsombi
[10:20] <ybon> the other one need just more love from me to autopilot test it too
[10:21] <gcollura> dpm: when a source image isn't available, for example Qt.resolvedUrl doesn't resolve the url, I might want to display a fallback image in its place
[10:22] <dpm> ybon, could you send a merge proposal with the current status, so that we can look at it in more detail? You can mark it as "In progress" to indicate that it's not yet ready, but it would help us to see which area needs work to get AP in shape
[10:22] <dpm> t1mp, perhaps you can help gcollura? ^
[10:23] <gcollura> dpm: at the moment I'm checking with an inline statement if the imagesource is available and then set the proper source
[10:23] <ybon> dpm: ok, I will do this today
[10:24] <dpm> cool, thanks ybon!
[10:24] <ybon> :)
[10:24] <gcollura> it works though
[10:25] <dpm> ybon, we might need to be a bit quick if we want to get these two branches before release, which is in  4 weeks
[10:25] <dpm> but next week with the core apps hack days we're hoping to give development a boost
[10:25] <dpm> and do a bit of a sprint to get all apps in shape
[10:25] <t1mp> gcollura: no, ImageWithFallback is not included in the API
[10:27] <t1mp> I'm not sure why not
[10:27] <t1mp> gcollura: you can add a bug to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit to request it (preferably with a use case)
[10:27] <t1mp> gcollura: in the meantime you can copy its source http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7129895/
[10:28] <gcollura> t1mp: thanks :)
[10:32] <ybon> dpm: ok, I will dedicate time on next week (the two weeks after I will certainly be in a rush)
[10:32] <dpm> ybon, great, thanks a lot!
[11:28] <zsombi> ybon: are you using the DatePicker or the PickerPanel?
[11:29] <ybon> zsombi: PickerPanel.openDatePicker
[11:30] <zsombi> ybon: ok. anyway, we don't have emulators yet neither for DatePicker nor for PickerPanel.
[11:30] <ybon> hehe, ok ;)
[11:31] <zsombi> ybon: so we need emus for both... and anyway we need emus for them :)
[11:32] <ybon> ;)
[11:32] <ybon> thanks for the update :)
[11:37] <dpm> ybon, here's the announcement now: http://popey.com/blog/2014/03/21/march-2014-core-apps-hack-days/ :)
[11:38] <ybon> great, I'll be there :)
[11:49] <popey> Great!
[11:54] <m-b-o> popey dpm: how are guys doing today?
[11:54] <dpm> hey m-b-o!, doing good, and you? Sorry I've not yet been able to look at your MPs...
[11:55] <m-b-o> I'm fine, added another mp ;)
[11:55] <dpm> popey, I've created events on the G+ and FB pages too. Do you want to send a brief e-mail to the core apps mailing list to give a heads up to all core devs?
[11:55] <dpm> m-b-o, ha! :)
[11:56] <popey> dpm: ya, will do in a moment, just doing the testing on desktop blog post
[11:56] <dpm> cool!
[11:56] <popey> will send one mail covering both to both lists
[11:56] <dpm> sounds like a plan
[11:57] <m-b-o> dpm: one icon is under consideration, besides that there's is some cleanup about the icons in the newest mp
[11:57] <dpm> m-b-o, ack
[12:14] <gcollura> is there a way to know which component in a page takes the most time to load?
[12:41] <SimonK1> .click installing on Desktop: is there a doc anywhere how to test my SDK-Qml-Click-App on my Desktop?
[12:55] <NobodyInPerson> Hey there!
[12:58] <popey> hello
[12:59] <NobodyInPerson> Are you familiar with packaging .deb files?
[12:59] <NobodyInPerson> Because I have a question regarding to this...
[12:59] <popey> a little bit, others here are more expert than I, but ask away
[13:00] <NobodyInPerson> How can I include multiple languages for the descriptions in my debian/control file
[13:00] <NobodyInPerson> I don't really have to create packages for each language just to have the descriptions adjusted, do I?
[13:01] <NobodyInPerson> Googling didn't help that much
[13:04] <ogra_> NobodyInPerson, iirc translations of description are handled by apt usually
[13:04] <ogra_> see man apt.conf
[13:05] <ogra_> (look for "Languages")
[13:05] <NobodyInPerson> okay gonna check that
[13:06] <SimonK1> does anyone know how to use "upstart-app-launch"? Or how to start .click apps in general?
[13:08] <kenvandine> SimonK1, upstart-app-launch takes the APP_ID of the click app as an arg
[13:08] <SimonK1> is APP_ID the name of .desktop-file without ".desktop" or is it "com.ubuntu.developer.octav14n.keepuntu"?
[13:08] <kenvandine> neither
[13:09] <SimonK1> how do i start my app then?
[13:09] <kenvandine> com.ubuntu.gallery_gallery_2.9.1.926
[13:09] <kenvandine> for example
[13:09] <kenvandine> look at the installed .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications
[13:09] <NobodyInPerson> @ogra_: So does that mean, when I upload my package I start with some language and have to translate the description later?
[13:10] <kenvandine> X-Ubuntu-Application-ID=
[13:10] <kenvandine> SimonK1, that is set in the desktop file
[13:10] <ogra_> NobodyInPerson, right, the translation is handled server side
[13:10] <kenvandine> SimonK1, it's the pkg_app_version
[13:10] <kenvandine> is how it's constructed
[13:10] <SimonK1> wow, kenvandine, you are my hero^^
[13:10] <kenvandine> in my gallery example pkg is com.ubuntu.gallery
[13:10] <kenvandine> app is gallery
[13:10] <NobodyInPerson> @ogra_: Okay so for testing purposes the only option for me is using one language
[13:10] <kenvandine> and version is 2.9.1.926
[13:11] <NobodyInPerson> *without uploading ist
[13:11] <SimonK1> kenvandine, I searched for this like 2 days :)
[13:11] <ogra_> you should use LANG=C by default
[13:11] <kenvandine> SimonK1, i'm not sure where that is documented :)
[13:11] <kenvandine> SimonK1, maybe in the click docs somewhere...
[13:11] <ogra_> (in packages that is)
[13:12] <NobodyInPerson> thanks ogra_!
[13:13] <SimonK1> hm, there is still no ContentProvider for Pictures on my System. Seems like I have to dig deeper
[13:36] <SimonK1> kenvandine, i don't get your +junk/hub-importer example-code working on my desktop. I've installed the ppa but there is no app I can import from (the app-list is empty after clicking "select source")
[13:36] <SimonK1> dou you have a tip what i'm doing wrong?
[13:37] <kenvandine> SimonK1, do you have an sources installed?
[13:37] <kenvandine> like my hub-exporter example?
[13:38] <SimonK1> i've the gallery-app installed (via apt)
[13:39] <kenvandine> that won't work now, you need the click version
[13:39] <kenvandine> gallery has switched to click
[13:40] <kenvandine> the default source for pictures is the click package for gallery-app
[13:40] <kenvandine> and the apt installed version of gallery-app doesn't run the click hooks to register itself
[13:40] <SimonK1> i see
[13:40] <kenvandine> SimonK1, grab my +junk/hub-exporter example
[13:40] <kenvandine> build a click and install that
[13:40] <kenvandine> you can also grab lp:~ken-vandine/gallery-app/content_hub
[13:40] <kenvandine> and build a click package for it
[13:41] <kenvandine> SimonK1, but one tip... if you build gallery as a click, edit click/manifest.json.in
[13:41] <SimonK1> ah, i see something listed :>
[13:42] <kenvandine> change the arch from armhf to the arch of your desktop
[13:42] <kenvandine> i386 or amd64
[13:42] <kenvandine> then ./click-build.sh
[13:42] <SimonK1> i see. Your hub-exporter is working for me though
[13:42] <kenvandine> great
[13:43] <SimonK1> thanks for the help, everything is working now :)
[13:44] <kenvandine> SimonK1, anytime!
[13:44] <kenvandine> file bugs if you find them and feel free to ask questions anytime
[13:44] <gcollura> is there any core app that make use of workerscripts?
[13:44] <kenvandine> SimonK1, any specific plans for what you are going to use it for?
[13:45] <SimonK1> just to play around at first, i wan't to write a keepass2 client.
[13:45] <kenvandine> awesome
[13:45] <kenvandine> i'd love to see that
[13:46] <kenvandine> i'm a lastpass user, but really want something that works on my phone too
[13:51] <netcurli> gcollura: the music app uses WorkerScript afaik
[13:52] <gcollura> thanks netcurli
[13:52] <gcollura> I'll have a look
[13:53] <netcurli> if you plan on using WorkerScript be aware of bug #1294019
[13:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1294019 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "WorkerScript loaded script cannot define functions or variables" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294019
[13:56] <gcollura> ah ok thanks netcurli
[13:57] <netcurli> (I hope this bug gets fixed soon as it blocks the app I am developing)
[14:17] <ybon> dpm: https://code.launchpad.net/~yohanboniface/ubuntu-calendar-app/DatePicker/+merge/212163 and https://code.launchpad.net/~yohanboniface/ubuntu-calendar-app/AgendaView/+merge/212164 :)
[14:32] <belkinsa> Hello, can I make a suggestion for the core apps of Ubuntu (Touch) on the desktop?
[14:33] <ahayzen> t1mp, ping
[14:33] <SimonK1> belkinsa, i filled a launchpad bug for this last time i had an idea. If you don't have direct contact to a core-apps-member this is the easiest way.
[14:34] <belkinsa> SimonK1, I will try.  Thank you.
[14:53] <t1mp> ahayzen: hello
[14:53] <t1mp> belkinsa: you make me curious. Which app do you want to suggest?
[14:56] <belkinsa> Music app.  This one might be a strange one but it's in many other music playing programs.  Have a setting where the user can pick where the music is stored and read from.
[14:57] <belkinsa> Also the Twitter, Remind, and YouTube app doesn't want to work on desktop.
[14:57] <belkinsa> And for the weather app, the Weather Channel API doesn't want to load any data.
[14:58] <belkinsa> Should I bug report a few of these?
[15:13] <dpm> nice work ybon :)
[15:16] <ahayzen> t1mp, I've got a bit further with moving to use the Panel component, but have noticed when the panel is opened it blocks drag events to the rest of the page. So in this example you cannot scroll the listview by click and dragging when the panel is shown. lp:~andrew-hayzen/+junk/test-panel-clicked
[15:19] <t1mp> ahayzen: that shouldn't happen
[15:19] <ahayzen> t1mp, am i doing something wrong in my example?
[15:21] <t1mp> ahayzen: no there is some code in Panel to support a deprecated use case
[15:21] <t1mp> ahayzen: the panel tries to detect clicks on the app contents and then closes it, but it is not handled well now.
[15:21] <t1mp> ahayzen: can you report a bug for it?
[15:22] <ahayzen> t1mp, ok... against ubuntu-ui-toolkit?
[15:22] <t1mp> ahayzen: yes
[15:22] <t1mp> ahayzen: and in the meantime, add __closeOnContentsClicks: false to your panel :)
[15:22] <t1mp> then it works fine
[15:22] <ahayzen> t1mp, cool and i'll link the branch... oo thanks :)
[15:23] <t1mp> I should fix this soon, before people start to create workarounds for the issue
[15:23] <t1mp> ahayzen: thanks for testing out the new stuff :) and please let me know if you find more problems
[15:23] <ahayzen> t1mp, will do hopefully once this is fixed we're there for converting the toolbar :)
[15:25] <ahayzen> t1mp, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1295720
[15:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1295720 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "When a panel is open it blocks some mouse events to the rest of the page" [Undecided,New]
[15:29] <t1mp> ahayzen: are you running qt 5.2?
[15:30] <ahayzen> t1mp, i find the issue both on the device with Qt5.2 (image 250) and one Saucy desktop
[15:30] <ahayzen> *on saucy
[15:30] <t1mp> ahayzen: does the desktop also have 5.2?
[15:30] <ahayzen> t1mp, erm is saucy or trusty 5.2?
[15:31] <ogra_> trusty
[15:31] <ahayzen> ogra_, thanks
[15:31] <ahayzen> t1mp, i'll check it occurs on a trusty VM..
[15:31] <t1mp> ahayzen: what does  apt-cache policy libqt5core5a say on your saucy desktop?
[15:32] <t1mp> hmm. I'm not sure the package has the same name on saucy
[15:33] <ahayzen> t1mp, libqt5core5:
[15:33] <ahayzen>   Installed: 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11.1
[15:33] <ahayzen> t1mp, ^^ on Saucy
[15:34] <t1mp> oh, ok. I thought the bug was new in qt 5.2
[15:34] <t1mp> ahayzen: it should work for you with __closeOnContentsClicks: false ?
[15:34] <t1mp> I will think of the proper solution next week.
[15:34] <ahayzen> t1mp, yep that works
[15:35] <ahayzen> t1mp, thanks
[15:35] <t1mp> it is a leftover from the toolbar of the past ;) which needs to auto-hide some times
[15:59] <mzanetti> popey: oh... just found a bug on the screenshot of the reminders app in the Hack days post :D
[15:59] <ahayzen> t1mp, FYI i remerged this with trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-swipe-delete-002/+merge/202171
[15:59] <popey> yay
[15:59] <mzanetti> popey: the Edit, Reminder and Delete icons shouldn't be there at that stage
[16:00] <popey> heh
[16:00] <popey> also, delete doesnt work
[16:01] <mzanetti> if the other two do work in this state its even worse :D
[16:01] <mzanetti> delete should work once you open a note
[16:02] <popey> yeah, it didnt for me
[16:02] <t1mp> ahayzen: thank you. I will re-run the tests next week as soon as the qt 5.2 image gets promoted
[16:02] <popey> i was trying to delete the untitled one before I took the screenshot, it didnt work so i gave up
[16:02] <ahayzen> t1mp, cool thanks :)
[17:00] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[17:01] <PaoloRotolo> Hi nik90 :)
[17:01] <PaoloRotolo> Just a question, how to slide a ListView  from the bottom :D?
[17:02] <PaoloRotolo> I tried with the propriety "x" and with anchors without success...
[17:23] <ubuntuser> is there a free guide for ubuntu sdk gui developing with python??
[18:28] <gcollura> mhall119, for asking to merge a branch I've worked on, do I need to push the code in a github repo first and then make a pull request?
[19:00] <DanChapman> gcollura: is this for email client?
[19:31] <gcollura> DanChapman, yes
[19:48] <nikwen> I'd be interested in which repository is actually used for the development of Trojita. The Github or the KDE repo?
[19:48] <nikwen> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=trojita.git
[19:56] <netcurli> nikwen: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/EmailClient the kde repo
[19:58] <nikwen> netcurli: Thank you very much. Didn't know it had already been added to that website. :)
[20:20] <oskar> anybody know the avg wait time for USC reviews?
[21:52] <mhall119> gcollura: push to github (or other online git host) and then use the review board process (the post-review commandline tool is easy enough to use)
[21:52] <mhall119> nikwen: the KDE repo is "official" upstream
[21:53] <nikwen> mhall119: Thanks. :)
[22:38] <netcurli> downloading the first podcast via the new ubuntu-download-manager qml component \o/