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[00:39] <phaidros> how to start the grub shell when running the system?
[00:39] <phaidros> ages ago there was a command called "grub"
[00:39] <phaidros> this seems gone :)
[00:40] <phaidros> since the days of grub-legacy have passed
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[03:55] <gmachine_24> greetings, earthlings. my server with 13.xx installed on the main 60GB ssd drive is all of a sudden full - as in registering 100% occupado. I did  $sudo df / and it came back 100% used . . . I have done daily back ups using tar and they have taken up only 2GB of space on a separate back up drive
[04:02] <davecore82> gmachine_24, do you have a question? what do you want to know?
[04:04] <gmachine_24> davecore82, yes, well, I suppose my question is whether this is normal and if not what can I do about it.......?
[04:05] <cfhowlett> gmachine_24, , df doesn't require sudo ...
[04:05] <gmachine_24> davecore82, the tar back ups still only take up 2GB of space
[04:05] <davecore82> you could start by finding what's using the most space with a command like    ( du -xSk || du -kod || du -ax ) | sort -nr | head -30
[04:05] <davecore82>    ran from your / dir
[04:05] <cfhowlett> gmachine_24, clear out your logs???
[04:05] <gmachine_24> davecore82, well ok but I get almost the exact same output when I just do df /
[04:08] <sarnold> gmachine_24: probably first things first, go look for huge logs in /var/log ; use apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean and apt-get autoremove to free up some more space
[04:08] <davecore82> this will work too:    du -xSk / | sort -nr | head -10
[04:08] <sarnold> gmachine_24: once you've gotten yourself some headroom you can start looking for your data that's big :)
[04:12] <gmachine_24> hi - thanks for the help. I had run apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove already. I just ran apt-get autoclean. I deleted a bunch of podcasts that were downloaded when I first set up the server; I forgot they were there.
[04:13] <gmachine_24> however, after removing the podcasts I get the same 100% used
[04:13] <gmachine_24> when running df /
[04:13] <davecore82> are they currently opened in some application on your server?
[04:13] <gmachine_24> I really think there is a problem that I cannot recall exactly having to do with ssds .... this will again teach me to keep all notes
[04:14] <gmachine_24> davecore82, what 'they' are you referring to?
[04:14] <davecore82> the podcasts
[04:14] <gmachine_24> I deleted them
[04:14] <gmachine_24> and no
[04:14] <gmachine_24> not opened in some application
[04:15] <davecore82> but where they already opened somewhere? sometimes when your df doesn't show any change it's because the files are still opened somewhere
[04:15] <davecore82> you could check what lsof returns and see if you see anything weird
[04:22] <gmachine_24> davecore82, I'm not familiar with lsof .. but, as I said, this is a new situation . . . I'm going to reboot the server and see if deleting the podcasts makes a difference;
[04:26] <gmachine_24> ok, the server is back up and things are the same; the thing that is different, which I should have realized and said before, is that I've installed and am configuring KVM so I can run virtual machines........
[04:26] <davecore82> did you run this?  du -xSk / | sort -nr | head -10
[04:26] <gmachine_24> I just installed KVM last night but did not create any vms as it got late and I don't want to do that when I am tired
[04:27] <davecore82> that command will find the top 10 directories using the most disk space
[04:31] <gmachine_24> davecore82, yes, I had run it before; here is the out put: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7128838/
[04:31] <davecore82> you should run it with root
[04:31] <gmachine_24> ha, ok, brb
[04:33] <gmachine_24> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7128843/ run with sudo
[04:33] <davecore82> can you show the output of df -h ?
[04:34] <davecore82> I don't see how your 60 GB disk be full with just that showing up
[04:36] <gmachine_24> davecore82, unless the squeezebox server cache is some how out of control; and, yes, that's what I meant - it makes no sense to me, either
[04:36] <davecore82> can I see your df -h ?
[04:37] <gmachine_24> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7128861/          from sudo df -h
[04:38] <davecore82> do you use things like file system snapshots, ...?
[04:39] <gmachine_24> davecore82, well, having no idea what that is I'm going to say no
[04:39] <davecore82> :)
[04:39] <gmachine_24> is it like an image?
[04:40] <davecore82> I can't help you sorry. Some forum suggests you run fsck from single user mode
[04:40] <davecore82> http://askubuntu.com/questions/256619/df-shows-all-space-taken-but-du-doesnt-add-up
[04:41] <davecore82> does this show anything interesting ?   lsof | grep '(deleted)'
[04:41] <gmachine_24> just like that with the deleted and everything?
[04:41] <davecore82> lsof | grep '(deleted)'
[04:41] <gmachine_24> the lsof command before led to a huge output
[04:41] <davecore82> this one will be shorter
[04:43] <gmachine_24> uhm... well, running with sudo and without sudo I got the same output: nothing
[04:44] <davecore82> so that means its not deleted files locking your space
[04:44] <davecore82> If you can, follow the instructions from that link
[04:44] <davecore82> maybe your fs is corrupted
[04:45] <gmachine_24> davecore82, yes, could be. so I guess it's good that I have a > a month of back ups
[04:45] <gmachine_24> davecore82, thanks again for your time
[04:45] <davecore82> where are the backups exactly? on a different drive?
[04:45] <gmachine_24> davecore82, yes, different drive
[04:45] <davecore82> try that fsck thing
[04:45] <davecore82> good luck
[04:45] <sarnold> anything in /root ? it looked mos likely out of those locations to possibly have some data stashed away
[04:46] <gmachine_24> sarnold how do I tell what is taking up all that space in /?
[04:49] <sarnold> gmachine_24: normally davecore82's little recipe does the job
[04:49] <sarnold> (I never use -S myself but it shouldn't matter much one way or another)
[04:50] <gmachine_24> sarnold, ok, well, the output didn't add up.......... I am logged in from a remote terminal using ssh -X ..... is there some way I can run the graphical disk usage analyzer remotely? I'm not even sure it's installed on the server
[04:51] <sarnold> gmachine_24: you could try, the only one I know of is 'kdf', but that will bring i nthe whole kde runtime, unless it's already installed you won't be able to make it fit :)
[04:54] <gmachine_24> sarnold, it's ok - I ran the disk analyzer using the command line baobab ..... and nothing accounts for the full disk........
[04:55] <sarnold> gmachine_24: it could be that some of your other mounts _might_ be mouted on top of directories full of data...
[04:55] <sarnold> gmachine_24: I'd umount all your external drives and look again
[04:55] <gmachine_24> I mean it shows the disk is using up something like 48GB of 51GB total..... but then there's nothing in the file system details which comes close to using that amount of space
[04:57] <gmachine_24> you know what, I wonder . . . . I'll be right back; I might have the answer
[05:04] <gmachine_24> sarnold, oh well. I thought maybe it had something to do with my backing up my music collection to an external 1TB usb drive; but, I removed that, rebooted the computer and get the same information. So I don't know. Thanks for your help. I'm beat - going to turn in.
[05:17] <raj__> how do I prevent tomcat installation(sudo apt-get install tomcat7) from installing openjdk when I already have oracle java installed ?
[05:21] <sarnold> raj__: take a look at the 'equivs' package, I think it could help you
[05:22] <raj__> sarnold: thanks going to look at that..!
[09:12] <ilhami> Anybody here?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> ilhami, yes
[09:14] <ilhami> cfhowlett, I got a free DNS host from noip.com.
[09:15] <ilhami> How can I configure this with Ubuntu server?
[09:15] <cfhowlett> ilhami, can't help with that - sorry
[09:15] <cfhowlett> !dns
[09:15] <ubottu> To set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/dns.html
[09:15] <cfhowlett> best I can do ^^^
[09:41] <DamienRed> Hello
[09:41] <cfhowlett> DamienRed, greetigns
[09:41] <cfhowlett> greetings
[09:43] <DamienRed> ty, Im thinking of starting a ubuntu server at home
[09:43] <DamienRed> It
[09:43] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:43] <DamienRed> Just looking over it on the site
[09:46] <DamienRed> CAn you connect windows and mac to a ubuntu servecr?
[09:46] <cfhowlett> DamienRed, certainly a windows with samba - don't know about mac
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !samba
[09:46] <ubottu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[09:48] <DamienRed> aha yeah, samba looks like what i was looking for .
[09:49] <DamienRed> Does ubuntu server have features similar to active directory?
[09:59] <Gr1> Hi everyone
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[12:47] <caribou> rbasak: I have a uvtool question :
[12:47] <caribou> rbasak: if you run 'uvt-kvm create onetest", who does uvt-kvm selects the image to use ?
[12:47] <caribou> rbasak: on my test system, I have 5 images starting with Oneiric & this command picked up precise which was the second in the list
[12:48] <rbasak> caribou: let me check the exact logic
[12:48] <caribou> rbasak: I'm working on the doc & just want to provide a few simple examples
[12:49] <RoBoT_38> guys
[12:49] <RoBoT_38> I want to ask
[12:49] <rbasak> caribou: it defaults to release=`distro-info --lts`
[12:49] <rbasak> caribou: I think there's an error in the manpage there, where I said it also defaults to the host arch. I don't think it does.
[12:49] <RoBoT_38> what is the command for movilng all files that begin with a, b, c, to a folder.
[12:50]  * rbasak needs to fix that
[12:51] <caribou> rbasak: no it doesn't, my test system is trusty & it installed precise
[12:51] <rbasak> caribou: what does "distro-info --lts" on your trusty system say?
[12:51] <caribou> rbasak: precise, so it is coherent
[12:52] <rbasak> I think it'll change to trusty once distro-info-data is updated in Trusty, which I guess happens on release or something.
[12:52] <rbasak> Users who care should specify.
[12:52] <rbasak> Do you think that's a problem?
[12:53] <caribou> rbasak: no, as long as it is clearly outlined in the doc
[12:53] <caribou> rbasak: I wanted to show that it was so simple to use that just doing 'uvt-kvm create onetest' was enough to get toing
[12:53] <caribou> s/toing/going
[12:54] <caribou> rbasak: with your explanation, I'll explain how it gets picked up
[13:19] <zul> jamespage/hallyn: so I was thinking we should apply for an MRE for libvirt for trusty+1, what do you think?
[13:27] <gQuigs> s the 12.04 + icehouse cloud archive open for business?  just found that it is active... is it meant to be used now? (I wasn't expecting it to be released until it got backported from 14.04)
[13:30] <zul> gQuigs: yes pre-releases are available
[13:31] <hallyn> zul: mre, why?
[13:31] <zul> hallyn:  so we can do a "stable" branch and get in updates faster
[13:32] <jamespage> zul, +1
[13:32] <zul> hallyn:  seabios as well it was just pointed out to me
[13:32] <hallyn> zul: sounds good.
[13:32] <hallyn> man my laptop is being weird
[13:33] <hallyn> well we don't want seabios updated without qemu
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[13:48] <zul> smb:  did xen 4.4. get uploaded?
[13:48] <smb> zul, yup
[13:48] <zul> smb:  sweet
[13:49] <smb> zul, now we just need to weed out some issues
[13:49] <zul> jamespage:  ill fix the python-pbr failing for the CA this afternoon
[13:50] <zul> smb: ill try to test xen-4.4 with libvirt/openstack next week
[13:50] <smb> zul, Ok, that would be awesome. And let me know all the bugs you find.
[13:51] <zul> smb:  ack
[13:57] <gQuigs> zul: is it going to eventually provide nodejs as well?  (they have a specific version dependency between it and libv8 that is provided)
[13:59] <jamespage> zul, ack
[14:12] <zul> gQuigs: uh...probably not...whats the specific dependency you are talking about?
[14:19] <gQuigs> nodejs (precise) depends specifically on libv8-3.7.12.22
[14:19] <gQuigs> they specifically want to install npm and find that can be impossible
[14:22] <jamespage> gQuigs, there is no intent to provide nodejs in the cloud-archive
[14:23] <gQuigs> hmm..  I think it might be due to the libv8-dev not having the version number in the package name
[14:24] <gQuigs> libv8-3.14 and libv8-3.7 are installable side by side, but there is only one libv8-dev package
[14:25] <gQuigs> why is libv8 included in the cloud archive?
[14:27] <jamespage> gQuigs, mongodb
[14:28] <gQuigs> thanks both, bug is precise not the cloud archive...
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[14:30] <gQuigs> or actually.. do you need to provide the libv8-dev package?  you have the libv8-3.14-dev package..
[14:31] <gQuigs> having that package breaks letting them both be installed
[14:31] <gQuigs> you don't have a package for libv8-dbg
[14:35] <jamespage> gQuigs, we try to make the cloud-archive delta as small as possible; I'd like to understand why you have the cloud-archive enabled on a server where you are doing other nodejs stuff?
[14:36] <gQuigs> jamespage: I don't; it's a customer
[14:39] <gQuigs> they say it's a dependency for their Razor setup, through npm...
[14:40] <gQuigs> ah... puppet-razor
[14:40] <gQuigs> it's a test node for them where they track the latest changes to see if anything will break in their setup in the future
[14:49] <gQuigs> I'll make a detailed bug report to the cloud archive and we can figure out next steps there
[14:53] <Obsdark> hey oh
[14:53] <cfhowlett> Obsdark, greetings
[14:57] <Obsdark> i'm trying to connect to internet with ubuntu server, through terminal to upgrade/update but i can't, when i ping any site in the outside internet it appears "ping: unknown host www.google.cl" and if i try to ping my router apparead "PING 192.168.100.1 (192.168.100.1) 56(84) bytes of data." and then start to spam this "From 190.160.17.126 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unrecheable", i'm trying to connect to internet
[14:57] <Obsdark>  through wifi, to a static ip router(modem who gave wifi to several comps)
[14:57] <Obsdark> any suggestions?
[14:57] <Obsdark> how to fix this problem?
[14:57] <Obsdark> thanks in advance
[14:58] <Obsdark> PS: i'm kinda noob in linux & specialy in ubuntu
[14:59] <Obsdark> PS2: i'll try asking in stack overflow (ask ubuntu) but i stop receive responds after like 8 hours ago
[15:00] <Obsdark> and what i print here is as far as we arrive with the guy who help me (before stop)
[15:19] <Dj_FlyBy> any reason why my Ubuntu Server 12.04 keeps changing it's IP address? I set it manually via this guide --> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html    but it doesn't seem to stay permanent and changes even when the server ISN'T restarted....
[15:23] <gQuigs> Dj_FlyBy: see if dhclient is still running
[15:31] <drums> hey guys
[15:32] <cfhowlett> drums, greetings
[15:32] <drums> nice to meet you, im pretty new to linux since a damm long break like 10? years :=
[15:32] <drums> last time i was running linux, suse 9 was the shit everyone was running trough
[15:32] <Obsdark> - AndroidLoverInSF ha entrado
[15:33] <Obsdark> <Obsdark>PS2: i'll try asking in stack overflow (ask ubuntu) but i stop receive responds after like 8 hours ago
[15:33] <cfhowlett> drums, language - keep it clean
[15:33] <drums> users from germany here?
[15:34] <drums> i got some rly hard nut for you guys
[15:34] <Obsdark> i'm trying to connect to internet with ubuntu server, through terminal to upgrade/update but i can't, when i ping any site in the outside internet it appears "ping: unknown host www.google.cl" and if i try to ping my router apparead "PING 192.168.100.1 (192.168.100.1) 56(84) bytes of data." and then start to spam this "From 190.160.17.126 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unrecheable", i'm trying to connect to internet
[15:34] <Obsdark>  through wifi, to a static ip router(modem who gave wifi to several comps) any suggestions? how to fix this problem? thanks in advance PS: i'm kinda noob in linux & specialy in ubuntu
[15:34] <cfhowlett> !de|drums,
[15:34] <ubottu> drums,: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!
[15:35] <jamespage> coreycb, zul: we need to fixup https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1267307
[15:35] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1267307 in ceilometer "upstart services aren't created for ceilometer-alarm-evaluator ceilometer-alarm-notifier" [Undecided,New]
[15:35] <drums> i was previously able to set my display within a script wich loads by booting gnome/unity to set my customized screen resolution by the command "xrandr 1199 x 904" (for example)
[15:36] <drums> but then i played around with all this funny compiz stuff and so on until everything crashed
[15:36] <drums> like EVERYTHINK
[15:36] <drums> i made it to work again, even witout a new instalation
[15:37] <drums> and ye, i got my workspacecube, i got my cairo, i got all the fancy nice looking transperancy stuff again BUT
[15:37]  * ogra_ wonders how this is related to ubuntu-server
[15:37] <drums> xrandr command doesnt work anymore, it now just takes resolutions wich are PREdefined (like all the standart resolutions)
[15:38] <ogra_> sounds like you would rather want #ubuntu or #ubuntu-de
[15:38] <zul> jamespage:  ack ill put it on my todo list
[15:38] <drums> but i cant set it anymore to a specific resolution by myself, what happend?did i kinda bugged out X server by itself?
[15:39] <drums> ogra_ ye sry, maybe its the wrong channel, i excuse myself for that
[15:39] <Obsdark> ogra_ it would be the right channel for my case?
[15:39] <ogra_> np, it is just the the guys in here will likely not be able to help much with desktop stuff
[15:40] <ogra_> since this is the server specific channel
[15:40] <drums> but maybe u got some idea?cause even friends of mine, wich are realy expirienced in linux, got no idea how this could happen
[15:41] <drums> ye its a problem with x, administrators are not involved into x serv
[15:41] <drums> but maybe one of u had this problem by himself before
[15:41] <drums> and the solution is quit simple
[15:41] <drums> :)
[15:45] <Dj_FlyBy> gQuigs: dhclient is in fact running
[15:45] <gQuigs> zul: jamespage, reported the libv8 issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1295723
[15:45] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1295723 in cloud-archive "libv8-dev backport breaks some dependencies" [Undecided,New]
[15:46] <gQuigs> Dj_FlyBy: that's your issue..  our docs need desperate updating
[15:46] <gQuigs> ifdown the interface first, should stop the dhclient, I think... then you can make the change
[15:46] <gQuigs> and ifup it back
[15:46] <gQuigs> (assuming you don't just have one interface, if you do, I suggest rebooting
[15:47] <Dj_FlyBy> change is already made... and are permanently added to the interfaces file whichis why I am so confused
[15:48] <Dj_FlyBy> I can't reboot the server every times this happens.... I need to solve the problem :) multiple websites ad such are hosted on this server... rebooting it constantly i s bad business
[15:49] <gQuigs> Dj_FlyBy:  post your interface conf file (w/ ips removed) somewhere
[15:49] <Dj_FlyBy> ok
[15:50] <rbasak> gQuigs: as a workaround, can you pin libv8-dev in precise to score higher than the cloud archive?
[15:52] <jamespage> rbasak, gQuigs: that was going to be my suggestion
[15:54] <novochar> I'm reading http://www.danscourses.com/Linux-Fundamentals/install-a-configure-the-bind-dns-server.html and it tells me to edit /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-eth0 ubuntu-server doesn't have this file, it does have /etc/sysctl.conf though
[15:54] <novochar> Is it the same?
[15:54] <novochar> Where would I insert DNS1=127.0.0.1?
[15:55] <novochar> And is that even relevant?
[15:55] <patdk-wk> novochar, you have lots of issues
[15:55] <rbasak> novochar: I suggest you look for a guide that accomodates Debian and Ubuntu. It sounds like you're looking at a RHEL/Fedora/CentOS -specific guide.
[15:56] <rbasak> novochar: eg. the official Ubuntu server guide for 12.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns.html
[15:57] <gQuigs> rbasak: jamespage, yes that appears to be a valid workaround
[15:57] <rbasak> Great! I can't think of any other way to solve this problem. It's a fundmental property of the cloud archive that it won't necessarily work with arbitrary packages from the release.
[15:57] <novochar> Thanks for the link rbasak
[15:58] <novochar> patdk-wk: noted
[15:59] <gQuigs> rbasak: I'm not suggesting removing libv8-3.14-dev, just libv8-dev..
[16:01] <Dj_FlyBy> ack.... I forget how to list the contents of a file
[16:01] <Dj_FlyBy> gQuigs: trying to sprunge that interfaces file for you
[16:05] <novochar> Dj_FlyBy: cat?..
[16:08] <Dj_FlyBy> novochar: hahah thanks...... can't believe I forgot that
[16:10] <novochar> I don't see anywhere in /etc/bind/ where this example could be inserted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcard_DNS_record#Definitions_of_DNS_wildcards
[16:11] <Obsdark> hey oh i'm trying to connect to internet with ubuntu server, through terminal to upgrade/update but i can't, when i ping any site in the outside internet it appears "ping: unknown host www.google.cl" and if i try to ping my router apparead "PING 192.168.100.1 (192.168.100.1) 56(84) bytes of data." and then start to spam this "From 190.160.17.126 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unrecheable", i'm trying to connect to
[16:11] <Obsdark>  internet through wifi, to a static ip router(modem who gave wifi to several comps) any suggestions? how to fix this problem? thanks in advance PS: i'm kinda noob in linux & specialy in ubuntu but i have a CentOs one working if that is usefull for something, any ideas?
[16:11] <novochar> None of the db files would fit and the named.conf.* files have a different syntax
[16:14] <Dj_FlyBy> gQuigs:  http://sprunge.us/ZbGF
[16:16] <jamespage> gQuigs, see my note on your bug report as to why we can't do that
[16:18] <Obsdark> any chance somebody tells me at least if my problem make sence or where i can find a answer?
[16:18] <gQuigs> jamespage: still don't understand why it can't depend on libv8-3.14-dev directly
[16:23] <novochar> This could be useful if it was for 13.10: http://www.leaseweblabs.com/2013/08/wildcard-dns-ubuntu-hosts-file-using-dnsmasq/
[16:23] <gQuigs> Dj_FlyBy: don't see anythng wrongg.... are the $ just an artifact?
[16:24] <novochar> If I just apt-get install dnsmasq, will ubuntu use it for dns forwarding?
[16:24] <Dj_FlyBy> gQuigs: i'm guessing the $ are part of the cat -A command as they don't actually existin the file itself
[16:35] <tcollins> Im trying to setup MAAS on a set of physical machines.  I'm having an issue with the DHCP setup, the docs say everything can be done from the WebUI but nothing changes.  Do I have to manually edit my interfaces files as well?
[16:36] <novochar> This looks relvant: http://therailworld.com/posts/36-Wildcard-Subdomains-with-Dnsmasq
[16:36] <novochar> The problem here is I don't want `blah`, I'd like *
[16:36] <novochar> Is it possible to use * with dnsmasq?
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[17:12] <Mez> Quick Question: I've setup LDAP -and it reports administrators:*:10001:mez
[17:12] <Mez> for getent group
[17:12] <Mez> but if I run "groups" as myself, I only see my primary group.
[17:12] <Mez> Any idea why this would be the case?
[17:13] <bekks> Mez: Did you re-login?
[17:13] <Mez> bekks: yup
[17:13] <Mez> even rebooted it :)
[17:16] <jrwren> the groups command doesn't use libnss to do its lookups. I'd recommend not using it.
[17:16] <jrwren> or... i'm reading strace output incorrectly
[17:17] <Mez> jrwren: it shows me in the LDAP groups on another system...
[17:17] <jrwren> nevermind me then.
[17:18]  * Mez has managed to somehow get locked out of sudo via this
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[17:26] <Mez> Ah, it's nscd
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[17:57] <raj__> tomcat7 by default installs openjdk, however I would run tomcat using already installed Oracle JRE, should I leave the  openjdk that will come along with tomcat as it is (I have seen that trying to uninstall openjdk also uninstalls tomcat7) Is there any harm in leaving it incase I dont wish to use it? (avoiding uninstall just because it is leading to complexities )
[17:58] <patdk-wk> if it explicitly depends on openjdk, that is a bug
[18:00] <raj__> patdk-wk: dont no why but when I tried uninstalling openjdk it uninstalled tomcat7  as well.. actually may be becuase I did not installed oracle jre via apt-get so it see only openjdk installed via apt-get ..
[18:07] <zul> jamespage:  have you had a chance to look at python-psutil yet?
[18:07] <zul> jamespage:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7131876/
[18:08] <jamespage> zul, hmm
[18:08] <jamespage> is that in the lab?
[18:08] <zul> jamespage:  ppa
[18:08] <zul> ci ppa sorry
[18:09] <jamespage> zul, under openstack-ubuntu-testing?
[18:09] <zul> yep on precise
[18:10] <jamespage> zul, oh foobar
[18:10] <jamespage> I expect that it got built with old dh-python
[18:11] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[18:12] <jamespage> zul, oh - psutil is out-of-date on i386 - it failed to build
[18:12]  * jamespage hits rebuilkd
[18:12] <zul> jamespage:  merci buckets
[18:16] <Valduare> hi guys I got a headless ubuntu server running on wifi as a cups print server
[18:16] <Valduare> I got it connecting great with dhcp and wpa_supplicant
[18:16] <Valduare> i understand there are problems with trying to specify a static ip? with wpa_supplicant
[18:18] <sarnold> I thought wpa_supplicant worked on the wifi layer rather than the IP layer?
[18:18] <lordievader> That was my impression too.
[18:19] <Valduare> I was just reading about it not completing if you had network/interfaces setup for static
[18:20] <sarnold> admittedly I've not tried it, but it doesn't sound right to me.
[18:20] <Valduare> guess i'll just try it heh
[18:21] <Valduare> luckily i can just take the sd card out and redo the network interfaces file if it does not work heh
[18:21] <sarnold> woo :)
[18:22] <Valduare> i got ubuntu 12.04 lts running on a mk802iiis to use as a cups print server
[18:23] <lordievader> Last time I did a static wifi address I used a very nasty work around, I wrote an /etc/init.d script. I couldn't get /etc/network/interfaces to work properly.
[18:38] <adam_g> smb, were you planning on upload someting to saucy proposed /w debdiff in 1248025? or should i?
[18:38] <adam_g> or hallyn
[18:38] <adam_g> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1248025
[18:38] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1248025 in libvirt "[SRU] libvirt-bin fails to start inside Xen" [High,In progress]
[18:47] <tcollins> im trying to debug PXE under MAAS, where are the pxelinux.cfg files for MAAS?
[18:49] <hallyn> adam_g: it is on my list,
[18:49] <tcollins> the pxelinux.cfg seems not to exists under MAAS
[18:49] <hallyn> adam_g: if you do, pls also include bugs 1287232 and /1264465
[18:49] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1287232 in libvirt "/usr/lib/libvirt-lxc.so missing from libvirt-dev" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1287232
[18:51] <sarnold> tcollins: look for /usr/share/pyshared/provisioningserver/pxe/config ?
[18:51] <adam_g> hallyn, hmm. those look less like low hanging fruit.
[18:51] <adam_g> IOW over my head :)
[18:51] <hallyn> in any case there is a pkg in -proposed still
[18:51] <hallyn> unless it cleared whil i wasn't looking
[18:52] <adam_g> ohh damn, right
[18:52] <adam_g> that exterely difficult bug to verify
[18:53] <hallyn> i think we shoudl take the verifications we have and go with it, but then i'm not on the sru team :)
[18:53] <tcollins> sarnold: is that the config.py file?
[18:53] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/2013.1.5
[18:53] <zul> coreycb: ^^^
[18:53] <sarnold> tcollins: I think it's used to make the pxe config.. it's been ages since I've done anything with it, but I've got that in my notes :) heh
[18:55] <tcollins> sarnold: I'm just trying to understand how maas controls pxe.  Since there is no pxelinx.cfg for the nodes to pull
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[18:57] <zul> jamespage/coreycb: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/2013.1.5/+merge/212226
[18:57] <tcollins> sarnold: it seems as though maas is not creating the config files
[18:58] <sarnold> tcollins: check out the maas-import-pxe-files script, it might have the details you need
[19:08] <tcollins> sarnold: maas-import-pxe-files just downloads the images.  Nothing helpful in there
[19:11] <jamespage> zul,  neutron +1; nova - do we really need to release?
[19:13] <zul> jamespage:  yes "Known Issues and Limitations" https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/2013.1.5
[19:14] <zul> jamespage:  keystone is still buidling for me
[19:16] <jamespage> zul, that nova commit list is incomplete then
[19:16] <zul> jamespage:  ok ill have a look
[19:21] <zul> jamespage:  that CVE got fixed in october according to the changelog
[19:26] <zul> jamespage:  im happy to skip it
[19:29] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/2013.1.5/+merge/212232
[19:31] <Obsdark> good day, i have a issue with the static ip configuration
[19:32] <Obsdark> you see: when i try to use the instructions on the oficial documentation, it just doesn't work, the dhcp-client process is dead but apt-get don't let me unninstall it, also i can't connect to the internet through cable modem
[19:32] <Obsdark> or better say, "wired" any suggestion or help would be greatly apreciated
[19:38] <pmatulis> Obsdark: you've mentioned 'static' and 'dhcp'.  what are you up to?
[19:40] <Obsdark> ok, wellwell, i'm making a "test" with a notebook
[19:40] <Obsdark> the idea is connect it to internet and stup a server
[19:40] <Obsdark> setup*
[19:41] <pmatulis> Obsdark: can you get an IP or not?
[19:41] <Obsdark> i first try to make work a wifi net, but now i'm thiknking than it's better use cable connection and clone it
[19:41] <Obsdark> with that pc, i can't even ping google
[19:42] <Obsdark> it must been said than i'm through a modem than brings wifi to some other pc's too
[19:42] <Obsdark> and that one have a static ip
[19:43] <Obsdark> i'm just thinking on clone this machine entirely on another pc after end the test here, but before of that i need set it up internet to it, cable internet, any suggestion? :S
[19:45] <Obsdark> pmatulis: please just do any question about it
[19:47] <pmatulis> Obsdark: use dhcp
[19:47] <Obsdark> ¿? but that's for dinamic ip aren't it? otherwise, how i can do it?
[19:53] <Obsdark> man
[19:53] <Obsdark> you fucking rocks!
[19:54] <Obsdark> damn man... i'm a very noobish ubuntu user but thanks a lot!
[19:54] <Obsdark> pmatulis: ¡You Rocks!!
[19:54] <Obsdark> Thanks!
[19:56] <Obsdark> just a last question
[19:57] <Obsdark> how i just setup to autoconnect when started?
[19:57] <Obsdark> (the comp)
[20:01] <Dj_FlyBy> any reason why my Ubuntu Server 12.04 keeps changing it's IP address? I set it manually via this guide --> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html    but it doesn't seem to stay permanent and changes randomly even when the server ISN'T restarted....
[20:06] <bekks> Dj_FlyBy: It changes to what? Can you give us an example?
[20:07] <Dj_FlyBy> it changes fromthe static 10.x.x.3 to 10.x.x.10
[20:08] <bekks> In a vbox environment?
[20:12] <Dj_FlyBy> I'd have to say no since I'm not entirely certain what that is
[20:12] <Dj_FlyBy> I'm guessing VirtualBoxin which case, no
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[20:14] <pmatulis> Dj_FlyBy: heh heh
[20:15] <pmatulis> Dj_FlyBy: see whether a dhclient process is running
[20:16] <pmatulis> (ps ax | grep dhclient)
[20:30] <Dj_FlyBy> pmatulis: no it is not running
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> ok this is weird.
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> I search for a running process and I getnothing
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> but your command shows something
[20:36] <Dj_FlyBy> pmatulis: -->  http://sprunge.us/ZAWa
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[20:40] <Dj_FlyBy> OOOoooOo  I found a VERY useful guide....  for anyone else to note in case of others with my issue....  -->  http://lani78.com/2012/07/19/change-to-static-ip-on-the-ubuntu-precise-pangolin-server/
[20:49] <pmatulis> Dj_FlyBy: so you'll want to do 'kill $(pgrep dhclient)'
[20:50] <pmatulis> Dj_FlyBy: or similar, 'kill $(pgrep dhclient3)'
[21:10] <Dj_FlyBy> pmatulis: but that kill it permanently, or wil it start again if so some od reason the server gets rebooted?
[21:10] <Dj_FlyBy> what about stopping it and then sudo apt-get remove isc-dhcp-client
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[21:14] <qman__> Dj_FlyBy: you don't need to uninstall it, just configure /etc/network/interfaces as static ip and it won't activate after a reboot
[21:15] <Dj_FlyBy> butI've had the interfaces file configured for some time and the server has been rebooted since then
[21:16] <qman__> you can also use dhclient -r to release your lease and it will stop trying to reconfigure it
[21:17] <qman__> sounds like something else is interfering then, maybe network-manager?
[21:19] <Dj_FlyBy> headless
[21:20] <qman__> that doesn't mean network-manager isn't installed
[21:21] <Dj_FlyBy> I didn't personally so unless by default
[21:21] <Dj_FlyBy> doesn't hurt to check :)
[21:21] <qman__> i know there were some bugs about this years ago, but i haven't run into it since 2012
[21:21] <qman__> and i install a lot of 12.04 servers
[21:21] <Dj_FlyBy> andso t is
[21:21] <Dj_FlyBy> grrrrr
[21:22] <qman__> it isn't on a default install but can easily get pulled in as a recommend
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[21:29] <Dj_FlyBy> how do Isee what is using it so I know if I can close it
[21:30] <qman__> network-manager is the daemon running in the background
[21:31] <qman__> you probably don't have the gui app installed
[21:31] <Dj_FlyBy> could use it if I did, lol
[21:31] <Dj_FlyBy> couldn't*
[21:31] <qman__> provided your normal config works, you can just apt-get remove it
[21:32] <qman__> though if it's remote you might want to take some precautions
[21:32] <Dj_FlyBy> I did edit the interfaces file a while agi
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