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daftykinsooh i'm pushing max upload00:01
diddledanI've got nobody on my home connection and 1user on my server00:01
daftykinsheh00:01
directhexbedtime. i seem to have the flu, recorded that last video full of coughs :(00:02
directhexand yes i still have my headache, 24 hours solid now00:02
daftykins:(00:04
daftykinsdirecthex: get well soon o/00:05
daftykinsooh a Swede and an IPv6 user now00:05
diddledanI've got two users each on home and server - same pair on both00:08
maps|wrkhi guys00:08
diddledanello maps|wrk00:08
directhextraffic increasing. ganalytics says 18 visitors right now00:10
directhexright, bed00:10
popeyuploading at ~300K/s00:10
diddledanganalytics?00:10
directhexhttps://www.google.com/analytics/00:10
diddledanoh google00:10
diddledanwhat's the website? I've not seen that yet00:11
maps|wrkil start mine in a bit00:12
maps|wrk;]00:12
directhexhttp://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/?r9300:12
maps|wrknoone awake now? O_o00:45
daftykinssorta00:46
shaunoI shouldn't be :/00:50
daftykinsthat's a bad shauno!00:51
shaunotell me about it.  I've got to be up at 5!00:51
daftykinswhaaaaaat!00:51
diddledanouch, on a saturday, too00:51
daftykinswhat ever for?00:51
shaunothe W word00:51
maps|wrkugh00:52
daftykinsWindsurfing you say00:52
daftykins;D00:52
shaunosomething like that ;)00:52
maps|wrk:)00:55
maps|wrkhm might go see new captain america next week00:55
maps|wrkso id better watch the 1st one soon:D00:55
shaunoheh, I wouldn't worry that much.  they don't tend to be *that* plot-heavy00:56
maps|wrkO_o00:57
maps|wrkmay aswell though00:57
daftykinsthat that nancy with the shield?00:57
maps|wrkmight go to see it at IMAX00:57
maps|wrknot sure daftykins  you seen capain america?00:58
daftykinsthink so ja00:58
shaunoI've got to the point where I give hollywood so little credit, that I'm surprised they didn't try to make a sequel to schindler's list01:00
daftykinshttp://i.imgur.com/eFELgBt.jpg01:02
maps|wrkmost films are a bit poor01:06
maps|wrkespecially comedies01:06
maps|wrkthe best part of a lot of comedies is shown in the trailer :) so many poor/dissapointing comedies imo01:06
maps|wrkyou see the internship?01:07
daftykinshttp://i.imgur.com/JmC9tzS.jpg01:09
maps|wrkpretty01:10
diddledanhttp://www.godotengine.org/wp/01:22
diddledannice01:22
diddledangive unity a run-for-their-money01:22
maps|wrkwhat is it01:28
diddledangame engine01:28
maps|wrkand what was that picture from daftykins ?01:28
maps|wrkfor what?01:29
diddledanmaking games with01:29
diddledanthe studio that created it in-house made this show-reel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=065h_cO5cT401:31
daftykinseh just got lost as i often do for 5 minutes after someone linked to something else on imgur01:31
maps|wrkso wha was that picture from ?:)01:34
daftykinsjust someones drawing as far as i can tell01:34
maps|wrkah01:37
mappsah cool directhex its downloaded leaving it seeding now04:46
ali1234joomla sucks ... sorry but it does04:50
ali1234you can't do anything with one extension... you have to write several to even accomplish a simple task04:51
knightwisehey everyone :)06:15
ali1234how do i use valgrind to find a memory leak when the program frees everything at exit?06:30
knightwisemorning SuperEngineer ali1234 mapps06:31
SuperEngineermorninks knightwise06:32
knightwisehey guys06:32
knightwiseI got a question. I have a lenovo twist running 13.10 ,06:33
knightwiseworks great and all that06:33
knightwiseI have an external keyboard and mouse connected , but the twist also has a touchscreen.06:33
knightwiseSo when I rotate the touchscreen into portrait mode it works fine with the external keuyboard and mouse06:33
knightwisebut the orientation of the "touchscreen" stays in portrait mode06:34
knightwisesorry , landscape mode06:34
knightwiseso to summarize : When I rotate my display to portrait mode , my touchscreen remains in landscape mode06:34
knightwiseanyone know how to fix this ?06:34
ali1234unity 7 doesn't have real touchscreen support06:35
ali1234nor rotation06:35
ali1234i assume you are rotating the display int he graphics driver06:35
knightwisei can easily rotate it using xrandr ,06:35
ali1234right06:35
knightwiseand the orientation of my mouse works fine then.06:35
knightwisebut its just the orientation of the touchscreen that stays in landscape mode06:36
ali1234yes because it rotates the whole display, including the mouse cursor06:36
knightwiseyes06:36
knightwiseexcept is does NOT rotate the touchscreen sensor06:36
ali1234right, why would it?06:36
knightwisebecause the screen is in portrait mode ?06:36
ali1234no, the video output is rotated into portrait mode06:37
knightwiseaha06:37
ali1234nothing else changes06:37
SuperEngineerany suitable resolutions [for portrit mode] showing in display properties06:37
knightwiseso I now need to find a way to rotate the touchscreen into portrait mode06:37
ali1234yes06:37
ali1234think about it:06:37
knightwiseSuperEngineer: no : when I rotate the screen from the display properties (or with xrander) everything works when I use an external mouse ( mouse input also goes into portrait mode)06:38
ali1234if you turn the screen to portrait mode06:38
knightwisebut the touchscreen stays in landscape mode06:38
ali1234and don't actually physically rotate the device06:38
ali1234then the mouse cursor will also move incorrectly06:38
ali1234this is because you only rotated the output06:38
knightwiselets recap :06:38
knightwiselaptop is in portrait mode.06:39
ali1234alternatively, if you put the device into portrait and then also rotate your mouse by 90 degrees, then it will also be wrong06:39
knightwisei use an external keyboard and mouse06:39
knightwisewhen I rotate the screen (using the display settings) into portrait mode06:39
knightwise1 orientation of the screen changes (OK)06:39
knightwise2 orientation of my EXTERNAL mouse changes to match the rotation (ALSO O)06:40
ali1234no, see, that's where you;re wrong06:40
ali1234nothing changes about the external mouse06:40
knightwiseso how can i make the same thing true for the touch interface06:41
ali1234the same thing is already true for the touch interface06:41
knightwisemy question : how do you change the orientation of the touch interface 90 degrees06:41
ali1234you would need to transform the coordinates somehow06:42
knightwiseif I could get that working I would really be able to use the thing as an actual tablet for reading and stufdf06:42
ali1234what type of touch screen is it?06:42
knightwise echo 0 blink > /proc/acpi/ibm/led06:43
knightwisesorry , its an ATMEL ATMEL maxtouch digitizer06:43
ali1234http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197244706:43
knightwiseAh :) Gonna give it a try :à)06:44
knightwisethanx06:45
knightwiseYES06:51
knightwiseit worked )06:51
knightwisenow I just need to find some keybindings to make this work automatically06:51
knightwisethanx ali123406:51
ahusamHi08:19
shaunoI think I've just pullled off a miracle.  I actually spent less time beating something in the face until it worked in IE, than I spent writing it in the first place \o/08:50
ali1234lol. there is a joomla extension that makes joomla extensions08:59
ali1234this is the worst thing i've ever seen08:59
ali1234i mean without a doubt this is the most convoluted and awful MVC system i've ever encountered09:00
MartijnVdSali1234: look at the database query log too :)09:00
MartijnVdSIt retrieves *everything* from the database, twice, then sorts/filters on the client side09:01
ali1234you feed it 20 lines of SQL and the extension generates the 100kb of boilerplate garbage that is needed to let joomla use it09:01
ali1234wait, my bad. it's actually 231kb. zipped.09:01
ali1234lol this is awful09:06
ali1234it randomly decided to add a drop down filter box on one of the admin views09:06
ali1234unfortunately the options in the drop down have nothing at all to do with the field contents09:06
ali1234aaaaand it doesn't even work09:07
ali1234yeah i don't think we'll be migrating to this09:07
shaunosilly place to ask a windows question, but on win7 .. how do you disable this thing where it hides all other windows when you mouse-over something on the taskbar?09:14
MartijnVdSshauno: you don't?09:15
shauno:(09:15
MartijnVdSmaybe by right-clicking the taskbar, then settings/properties/09:15
MartijnVdSmaybe in the theme (but then you might have to disable all of aero)09:16
shaunoit's incredibly distracting when you have multiple monitors.  every single time I peek at the second screen to see what just happened, but it's just faded itself to wallpaper so it can show me a window on the first screen09:17
MartijnVdSso don't hover your mouse there09:17
MartijnVdSit only triggers after a second or two09:17
shaunoseems turning aero off does the trick09:23
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
bashrcmorning09:31
popeyyo09:32
MartijnVdSyo-yo09:35
ali1234does anyone actually like joomla?10:24
ali1234anyone at all?10:24
ali1234even people who like it don't seem to like it very much10:25
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:26
brobostigonhow would you implement, to assign dns addrs to devices to internal network devices like my rpi, so i dont have to remember ip addrs.10:36
ali1234use ahavi10:37
brobostigoni already use that on some of those devices.10:38
popeycant you just tell your dhcp server to dish out the dns addresses?10:47
popeythats what i do10:48
popeyoh, you mean, have local dns?10:48
ali1234i used to hack my router firmware to enable it to server a list of static hostnames10:49
ali1234but i got fed up of doing that so i switched to avahi10:49
popeyyeah, i hard wired IP and host name in my dd-wrt router10:50
brobostigonthats another good solution,10:52
foobarrywhat's your router brobostigon ?10:53
brobostigonipv4 is a standard bt router, ipv6 said rpi.10:54
foobarrydhcp also serves dns names but unsure if bog standard firmware does it10:56
foobarrylol https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PRV2b-Lyf6g/UyxrbamfwVI/AAAAAAAATpQ/LARE_uQyHCw/w360-h221-no/3582_808d.gif10:58
brobostigoninside ipv6 that wouldnt be a problem,10:58
shaunoavahi ftw10:59
shaunoIE is actually going to make me cry.  I Can easily imagine them giggling while they wrote this 'debugger'11:13
foobarrygot the heating on :(12:01
shaunooooh rich boy eh12:06
ali1234i've got the windows open :/12:10
brobostigon7.2c, 14mph sw.12:11
penguin423c :-(12:16
foobarryson is doing the "bbc click dance"12:30
bashrclibreplanet begins at about 1.45pm, I think12:54
bashrcooh windows.  I remember that from the olden days12:55
ali1234AlanBell: can i hire you port my wordpress plugin to joomla?13:11
penguin42directhex: You got a nice link from greg-kh's G+ stream for your rocket13:31
mappsafternoon14:19
=== bashrc_ is now known as bashrc
daftykinsheya15:19
daftykinstime to kick it old school today and rip some audio CDs!15:19
daftykinsyes, i remember them!15:19
daftykinsthankfully i still have a working optical drive within my server15:19
mappshm15:20
mappsdaftykins know much bash?15:20
mappsits prob obvious but cant see why something isnt working15:20
daftykins'fraid not15:20
mappsack15:20
mapps:)15:20
daftykinspastebin 'er up though, i don't mind taking a glance15:20
mappshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7136159/15:21
mappsthe 2nd exec line15:21
mapps $BASEDIR/sc_serv $BASEDIR/sc_serv_basic.conf &15:21
mapps$BASEDIR/sc_trans $BASEDIR/sc_trans_basic.conf &15:21
mappsneed both to be run so shoutcast will stream automatically - but first command runs and 2nd doesnt15:21
mappstried using && so 2nd command runs if first was successful but the problem is sc_serv writes to stdout and just sits there with && and even with & making it go into the bg the 2nd wasnt run15:22
daftykinsdoes one or the other have a switch to execute in daemon mode and not continue outputting?15:22
mappslet me check a sec i dont recall seeing it though15:23
mappshttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/16677906/shoutcast-daemon-script-not-functioning-properly what if i did what theyve done there redrect output15:25
mappsah ok found something daftykins if i set RealTime 0 and screenlog0 in the conf it doesnt output15:26
mappsand then when i run the cmd with & it dissapears so now both cmds should work?15:27
daftykins*shrug* :)15:27
daftykinsproof's in the testing!15:27
=== PaulW2U_ is now known as G4MBY
mappshoorah15:36
mappsworks15:36
mapps:D15:36
mappshm 2 people dl that directhex iso15:40
mappsone from Trinidad and Tobago15:40
MartijnVdSmapps: so.. it's 2 people, one from Trinidad, one from Tobago? :P15:42
mappshah15:42
mappsone from t&t and one from USA15:42
daftykinsmapps: heh i was watching the stats of it fir a little while when i got up15:43
daftykinscouple of germans, an aussie, a chinese user15:44
mappshas it been given out then/15:44
mappsI THOUGHT IT WAS SUPER SECRET15:44
mapps:D15:44
daftykinswell the plan was to get a good seeding base setup prior to him launching, so that peeps could grab it quick15:44
daftykinshe released last night a bit later on i believe15:44
daftykinsa good 32 seeds now so it says on mine \o/15:44
daftykins6.713 ratio on mine :>15:45
mappsaha ok15:45
mappshm15:45
mappsi only see one person when i click peers on mine15:45
mappsannoying about less than a mile from me where i used to live now has FTC15:46
mappsbut STILL NOT HERE FOR ME15:46
mappsim a diff exchange;/15:46
daftykinsyeah you only see # of users actively connected getting something from you15:46
mappsaha15:46
daftykinshrmm AccurateRip is being rude to me15:51
mappswhat about eac15:52
daftykinsit's a plugin for EAC yeah15:53
mappsahh15:53
mappsok didnt know15:53
mappsi was ust saying use eac;p15:53
mappsbut guess you are=]15:53
daftykinsbut it's refusing to show itself :D15:53
mappsso whats this plugin do15:53
daftykins*nod* - doing super high accuracy rips for a... specific purpose shall we say15:53
daftykinsbasically it goes off online and compares records with rips done by others15:53
mappsah i see16:02
mappscompares how like quality its ripped at?16:02
daftykinsyep16:05
daftykinsagainst sorta known reference values16:05
daftykinsit's not hugely relevant if you're just ripping for yourself, i followed a guide to set it to super accurate mode16:05
daftykinsit's just a needed thing for what i'm up to16:06
mappsah16:06
daftykinsugh that album took 26 mins16:07
mappsugh16:08
mappsits hailing outside16:08
daftykinsugh yeah that was an 85% result16:16
daftykinsi need 100! :)16:16
mappslol16:16
mappswhat quality you rippng at16:16
daftykinsFLAC16:16
daftykinsbut then i'll also do MP3 V0, V2 and 320Kbps CBR16:17
mappsugh work in a bit wonder how annoyed i can get today16:18
mappsservice desk and testing annoying me so much emails from those departments where people use terms that dont exist16:19
daftykinshaha16:20
daftykinswhat like?16:20
mappsi cant think of any off hand but trust me theres loads16:20
mappsive got a lot of auto delete rules on my inbox at work16:20
mappssick and tired of useless emails16:20
daftykinsyay insert a more well known CD and accuraterip is a go \o/16:21
mappsa prime example..if you have a car you have to register your details..well even though thats the case IF someones blocked someone in etc16:21
mappsthey EMAIL EVERYONE16:21
daftykins:/16:21
mappslike uhh i dont even have a car..and even if i did..why not just email one person16:21
daftykinssounds like a left-hand right-hand situation ;)16:21
daftykinsas in the two not talking16:21
mappssomeone at work convinced work that the ipad loads websites faster16:21
daftykinslmao16:22
mappsand they bought one for him to use16:22
mappsbaffling16:22
daftykinsofgs16:22
daftykinsamateurs16:22
mappsbut 100% serious16:22
mappsits a betting company..so its expected but theres so many people that claim to know everythng16:22
mappshe trades formula1 and claims its faster than anything else on the ipad16:22
mappsdidnt give any reasons16:22
mappsjust faster..ok?16:22
mappslol16:22
daftykinsi guess a given app could be faster on a given tablet16:23
daftykinsif it's just written better16:23
daftykinsbut if it's just web browser usage... hmm16:23
mappsversus a super fast pc using livescore web16:23
mappsbut there was no reason just 'its faster'16:23
mappsmaybe it was faster ONCE16:23
mappsdoesn't mean every single time...who knows maybe the ipad/mobile site uses a diff server ad it wasnt very busy at that time?16:23
mappsI just dont say anything..I laugh to myself but thats about it16:24
daftykinsyeah, best way sometimes :>16:25
daftykinsespecially when there's the smell of bovine waste about16:26
daftykinsa client needed his whole music collection ripped once so we went to my old College to hire a kid16:26
daftykinswhenever i see him now, he just totally lies non-stop in conversation16:26
daftykinsi don't understand the child at all16:26
daftykinshe'd lie about trivial things like how reliable the uptime of his home broadband service was16:27
mappswhy16:27
daftykins'yeah it only ever goes down when there's maintenance, it's great'16:27
mappsheh16:27
daftykinsbut there's no published maintenance page...16:27
daftykinsstrange boy indeed.16:27
foobarryliars be liars16:40
foobarryalthough i don't understand the need to compulsively lie about things that dont even matter16:40
daftykinsexactly16:41
shaunoa lot of the time, they're mostly doing it to lie to themselves.  eg, I'll tell you my connection is awesome - because I feel guilty about what I pay for it, and want to believe it myself16:42
daftykinslike, i can totally attest to not necessarily asking questions if i didn't fully understand something someone said when i was younger - but you grow out of it16:42
=== Guest45910 is now known as Monotoko
maps|wrkhai17:02
daftykinswb17:03
maps|wrk:D17:04
maps|wrkbusy busy busy worker bee17:04
maps|wrkthats what i am17:04
daftykinsso what TV are you watching? ;)17:06
maps|wrkbaseball17:06
maps|wrkmy first game is det @ tor pre season baseball.17:07
maps|wrkthat ive gots to 'trade' aka set the odds live during the game17:07
maps|wrkbut unfortunately im sitting opposite someone who's above me..so have to be careful how much im typing/not doing work struff :(17:07
daftykinsdo you have to fully understand the rules of the games you work with?17:07
maps|wrkit helps17:07
maps|wrkbut not if you use the multi tools -where basically it uses a feed from a scout17:08
maps|wrklike say you can do 6 soccer games at once using a feed17:08
maps|wrkbut for single stuff where youre doing 1 game at a time ya17:08
maps|wrkso if u watch det @ tor on bet365.com thats what im doing;p17:08
maps|wrklol17:20
daftykins^_^17:21
maps|wrkwhats wrong with women who are 40+ not realising fake tan/fake hair etc is embarassing17:22
maps|wrklooking like a tart at that age17:22
maps|wrk:(17:22
daftykinsstruggling to let go i guess17:24
maps|wrk'more clearer' is it me or does that just sound wrong?17:25
daftykinsyeah it's redundant17:25
daftykinswell, just not right17:26
maps|wrkyea17:26
maps|wrkit just sounded funny to me17:26
daftykinsi keep seeing in articles lately - "pre-planning"17:27
daftykins=/17:27
maps|wrkpre planning lol17:28
daftykinsi hereby plan to plan this :>17:28
maps|wrkah17:28
maps|wrki plan to plan to plan17:28
maps|wrk:D17:28
maps|wrki was wondering the other day how much is it costing me to run my 3 machines 24/7 my laptop / netbook for irc and my ubuntu machine17:29
ali1234probably about £1 per day17:29
maps|wrkyou reckon?17:29
maps|wrkfor all 3?17:29
ali1234sure17:29
maps|wrkhm17:29
maps|wrkmy bill was like 340 for a quarter gas and electric and i live on my own and try not to have the heating on much17:30
ali1234do you have a freezer?17:30
maps|wrkah yea17:30
maps|wrkfridge freezer running 24/717:30
maps|wrkgood point never considered that17:30
ali1234that's probably like half your bill17:31
maps|wrkso i dont need to worry about having them all on really17:31
ali1234well, 1/417:31
maps|wrkmy ubuntu machine's like 9years old..i bought it in my 2nd year of uni , dell dimension desktop17:32
maps|wrkand it still runs xubuntu well enough imo17:32
maps|wrkno need to retire it:)17:33
maps|wrkapache httpd/openvpn/shoutcast/mariadb/17:33
daftykinswhen i upgraded my server's storage i went on quite a power consumption kick17:41
daftykinsupgrading from 8 x 250GB HDDs to 6 x 1TB meant i increased storage *and* cut power a fair bit :)17:41
daftykinsmy server uses ~100W idle17:41
maps|wrkwhat did you do with the old disks17:42
maps|wrkthats why i hate upgrading ..i dont wanna get rid of anything :D17:42
daftykinsgave them to a friend along with my older RAID controller card they went with, but apparently they slowly cascaded to death17:43
maps|wrkah17:43
ali1234i want to buy 4 x 4TB disks17:43
maps|wrkwhat ram/cpu is yours17:43
daftykinspretty basic Pentium dual core 2GHz with 4GB17:43
maps|wrkmines a core 2 duo 2gb ram i think17:44
maps|wrkmodel name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz17:45
maps|wrkhm how can i check memory meminfo from proc i guess?17:48
daftykinsindeed17:49
maps|wrkkB thats kilobytes not bits ye?17:49
maps|wrkmust be17:49
maps|wrkwell my machine has even less ram than i thought lol17:50
maps|wrkmark@frogs:/proc$ cat meminfo                                                                                               MemTotal:        1016548 kB17:50
maps|wrk:D17:50
daftykinsaround 1GB then17:51
maps|wrkja17:51
daftykinsonboard graphics stealing 8MB by the looks17:51
maps|wrkhad the machine since mmh i guess 200517:51
daftykinsor 32 0o17:51
maps|wrkconsidering its now 9years old its quite cool that Xubuntu runs well on it eh?17:51
daftykinswell it is specifically meant to be lightweight17:51
maps|wrkI mean you could use it for browsing/watchng videos (vlc) everything, obviously games wouldnt be great and i mean sure heavy compiling would take a while and it couldnt handle as many threads for apache/mysql probably and itd slow down17:52
maps|wrkbut its kinda neat being able to run a vpn server/httpd/smtp/ all on that old box :) and this irc client is running off it17:52
daftykinsyou must be dipping into swap on that thing?17:53
maps|wrkhm17:53
maps|wrkwell17:53
daftykins'free -m' ?17:53
maps|wrkhow would i check? also remember , my vpn gets like no use - only i use it and not often, just for testing mainly17:53
maps|wrkand my apache webserver..well nothing on there and im the only visitor..I us it for this irc client :P and also shellinabox which is running on it17:53
maps|wrkmainly setup all these things as testing and learning :D17:54
maps|wrkfmark@frogs:~$ free -m                                                                                                                   total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached                                                   Mem:           992        871        121          0          8        439                                                   -/+ buffers/cache:        423        56917:54
daftykinsah, no swap17:55
maps|wrkteehee17:55
maps|wrkwhats running on your server17:55
daftykinswell it's a Windows host with two VMs of ubuntu server atop it17:55
daftykinsone i'm typing from now is irssi dedicated, the other is a web server17:55
maps|wrkbucketing down again here17:59
maps|wrk;(17:59
daftykinsit's fine if you've got nowhere to go :D17:59
maps|wrkja18:00
maps|wrkand i dont for like 9hours18:00
maps|wrkyess got the booth to myself18:40
maps|wrkdaftykins:  you know of any good ebooks or sites for learning the linux command line.,.likw i know basics but not enough and certainly not enough about options with commands..and dont say rtfm or man:P18:41
daftykinsXD18:41
daftykinsno ideas i'm afraid18:41
maps|wrkoke:D18:41
daftykinsi'd only be googling for a newbie manual18:41
maps|wrkyea18:42
DJones!terminal | maps|wrk The intial link is very basic, but looks like quite a few links at the bottom that may be useful,18:50
lubotu3maps|wrk The intial link is very basic, but looks like quite a few links at the bottom that may be useful,: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal18:50
maps|wrkthanks18:50
DJoneshttp://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz Looks pretty detailed18:51
maps|wrksweet ta18:52
* penguin42 wonders whether there will be 2038bug parties18:54
maps|wrkanyone use webmin? just been reading about it is all19:06
MartijnVdSwebmin is BAD19:06
maps|wrkinsecure?19:07
DJonesNot supported in Ubuntu, appears to have a habit of breaking things19:10
DJones!webmin19:10
lubotu3webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.19:10
maps|wrkahh ok i thought it would be security reaosns:)19:15
maps|wrkreasons19:15
DJonesI think the suggested alternative now is Zentyl19:17
DJones!ebox19:17
lubotu3zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).19:17
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maps|wrkright time for me to move desks19:25
maps|wrk:)19:25
maps|wrkback21:19
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maps|wrkquiet ere again21:52
daftykinsfor some reason it feels like Sunday21:53
maps|wrksundays are always a slow quiet day eh21:55
maps|wrkwhat you doing? im reading up on the command line still21:55
maps|wrk:D21:55
daftykinsdid food at the top of the hour, sat in the lounge considering whether to watch something on the TV now21:57
maps|wrkhmm prob nothing good on21:58
daftykinswell i've got my HTPC fired up so what's on is what i make it :D21:59
maps|wrkahh21:59
maps|wrkthought you meant tv tv21:59
maps|wrk:D21:59
daftykinsnah i don't even have a broadcast service hooked up21:59
daftykinsi was using my TV's smart capabilities to watch some news progs on the iPlayer though21:59
maps|wrkwatch that show about deathrow22:00
maps|wrkthat was quite interesting22:00
daftykinshmm didn't see anything about that22:02
maps|wrkif you wish or need to ever flip text upside down [vertical flip] "uʍop ǝpısdn ʇxǝʇ dıʃɟ" or/and create reverse text here is a terminal way to achieve this22:03
maps|wrkLOL22:03
maps|wrkyo daftykins  - it's here22:03
maps|wrkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03ytvjz/Life_and_Death_Row_Execution/22:03
daftykinsah man upside down text is a thing i need on a daily basis! ;)22:04
daftykinsoooh now i see the pic i did see that listed under Factual22:04
penguin42daftykins: ɟo ɥɔnɯ ooʇ ǝʌɐɥ uɐɔ noʎ buıɥʇǝɯos s,ʇı ʞuıɥʇ ı22:05
maps|wrklol22:06
maps|wrkits a decent watch imo daftykins22:06
daftykinspenguin42: ah, like all good things in life22:07
daftykinsooh just broke 9 seeded on stephenson's rocket22:10
maps|wrk=]22:14
diddledanI'm on 5.73 and 7.1722:14
daftykinshttp://imgur.com/gallery/I02PB22:15
daftykinsi was looking at this last night22:15
daftykinscan barely notice a difference 0o22:15
maps|wrkthats pretty cool22:23
maps|wrkwill have a proper look in a bit22:23
maps|wrk:)22:23
daftykinsmight get the film it references22:33
maps|wrkso what did you decide to watch daftykins22:41
daftykinsi've got a bit of an anime on right now22:42
daftykinsa Ghost in the Shell film22:42
maps|wrkah22:42
daftykinsundecided if i'll stick at it though22:42
ali1234hmm.... bootstrap is really good22:53
ali1234this might save me from the horrors of joomla22:53
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maps|wrkyo23:46
daftykinswb23:51
maps|wrk:)23:52
maps|wrkever used http://www.centerim.org/index.php/Main_Page ?23:55

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