[00:01] ooh i'm pushing max upload [00:01] I've got nobody on my home connection and 1user on my server [00:01] heh [00:02] bedtime. i seem to have the flu, recorded that last video full of coughs :( [00:02] and yes i still have my headache, 24 hours solid now [00:04] :( [00:05] directhex: get well soon o/ [00:05] ooh a Swede and an IPv6 user now [00:08] I've got two users each on home and server - same pair on both [00:08] hi guys [00:08] ello maps|wrk [00:10] traffic increasing. ganalytics says 18 visitors right now [00:10] right, bed [00:10] uploading at ~300K/s [00:10] ganalytics? [00:10] https://www.google.com/analytics/ [00:10] oh google [00:11] what's the website? I've not seen that yet [00:12] il start mine in a bit [00:12] ;] [00:12] http://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/?r93 [00:45] noone awake now? O_o [00:46] sorta [00:50] I shouldn't be :/ [00:51] that's a bad shauno! [00:51] tell me about it. I've got to be up at 5! [00:51] whaaaaaat! [00:51] ouch, on a saturday, too [00:51] what ever for? [00:51] the W word [00:52] ugh [00:52] Windsurfing you say [00:52] ;D [00:52] something like that ;) [00:55] :) [00:55] hm might go see new captain america next week [00:55] so id better watch the 1st one soon:D [00:56] heh, I wouldn't worry that much. they don't tend to be *that* plot-heavy [00:57] O_o [00:57] may aswell though [00:57] that that nancy with the shield? [00:57] might go to see it at IMAX [00:58] not sure daftykins you seen capain america? [00:58] think so ja [01:00] I've got to the point where I give hollywood so little credit, that I'm surprised they didn't try to make a sequel to schindler's list [01:02] http://i.imgur.com/eFELgBt.jpg [01:06] most films are a bit poor [01:06] especially comedies [01:06] the best part of a lot of comedies is shown in the trailer :) so many poor/dissapointing comedies imo [01:07] you see the internship? [01:09] http://i.imgur.com/JmC9tzS.jpg [01:10] pretty [01:22] http://www.godotengine.org/wp/ [01:22] nice [01:22] give unity a run-for-their-money [01:28] what is it [01:28] game engine [01:28] and what was that picture from daftykins ? [01:29] for what? [01:29] making games with [01:31] the studio that created it in-house made this show-reel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=065h_cO5cT4 [01:31] eh just got lost as i often do for 5 minutes after someone linked to something else on imgur [01:34] so wha was that picture from ?:) [01:34] just someones drawing as far as i can tell [01:37] ah [04:46] ah cool directhex its downloaded leaving it seeding now [04:50] joomla sucks ... sorry but it does [04:51] you can't do anything with one extension... you have to write several to even accomplish a simple task [06:15] hey everyone :) [06:30] how do i use valgrind to find a memory leak when the program frees everything at exit? [06:31] morning SuperEngineer ali1234 mapps [06:32] morninks knightwise [06:32] hey guys [06:33] I got a question. I have a lenovo twist running 13.10 , [06:33] works great and all that [06:33] I have an external keyboard and mouse connected , but the twist also has a touchscreen. [06:33] So when I rotate the touchscreen into portrait mode it works fine with the external keuyboard and mouse [06:34] but the orientation of the "touchscreen" stays in portrait mode [06:34] sorry , landscape mode [06:34] so to summarize : When I rotate my display to portrait mode , my touchscreen remains in landscape mode [06:34] anyone know how to fix this ? [06:35] unity 7 doesn't have real touchscreen support [06:35] nor rotation [06:35] i assume you are rotating the display int he graphics driver [06:35] i can easily rotate it using xrandr , [06:35] right [06:35] and the orientation of my mouse works fine then. [06:36] but its just the orientation of the touchscreen that stays in landscape mode [06:36] yes because it rotates the whole display, including the mouse cursor [06:36] yes [06:36] except is does NOT rotate the touchscreen sensor [06:36] right, why would it? [06:36] because the screen is in portrait mode ? [06:37] no, the video output is rotated into portrait mode [06:37] aha [06:37] nothing else changes [06:37] any suitable resolutions [for portrit mode] showing in display properties [06:37] so I now need to find a way to rotate the touchscreen into portrait mode [06:37] yes [06:37] think about it: [06:38] SuperEngineer: no : when I rotate the screen from the display properties (or with xrander) everything works when I use an external mouse ( mouse input also goes into portrait mode) [06:38] if you turn the screen to portrait mode [06:38] but the touchscreen stays in landscape mode [06:38] and don't actually physically rotate the device [06:38] then the mouse cursor will also move incorrectly [06:38] this is because you only rotated the output [06:38] lets recap : [06:39] laptop is in portrait mode. [06:39] alternatively, if you put the device into portrait and then also rotate your mouse by 90 degrees, then it will also be wrong [06:39] i use an external keyboard and mouse [06:39] when I rotate the screen (using the display settings) into portrait mode [06:39] 1 orientation of the screen changes (OK) [06:40] 2 orientation of my EXTERNAL mouse changes to match the rotation (ALSO O) [06:40] no, see, that's where you;re wrong [06:40] nothing changes about the external mouse [06:41] so how can i make the same thing true for the touch interface [06:41] the same thing is already true for the touch interface [06:41] my question : how do you change the orientation of the touch interface 90 degrees [06:42] you would need to transform the coordinates somehow [06:42] if I could get that working I would really be able to use the thing as an actual tablet for reading and stufdf [06:42] what type of touch screen is it? [06:43] echo 0 blink > /proc/acpi/ibm/led [06:43] sorry , its an ATMEL ATMEL maxtouch digitizer [06:43] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972447 [06:44] Ah :) Gonna give it a try :à) [06:45] thanx [06:51] YES [06:51] it worked ) [06:51] now I just need to find some keybindings to make this work automatically [06:51] thanx ali1234 [08:19] Hi [08:50] I think I've just pullled off a miracle. I actually spent less time beating something in the face until it worked in IE, than I spent writing it in the first place \o/ [08:59] lol. there is a joomla extension that makes joomla extensions [08:59] this is the worst thing i've ever seen [09:00] i mean without a doubt this is the most convoluted and awful MVC system i've ever encountered [09:00] ali1234: look at the database query log too :) [09:01] It retrieves *everything* from the database, twice, then sorts/filters on the client side [09:01] you feed it 20 lines of SQL and the extension generates the 100kb of boilerplate garbage that is needed to let joomla use it [09:01] wait, my bad. it's actually 231kb. zipped. [09:06] lol this is awful [09:06] it randomly decided to add a drop down filter box on one of the admin views [09:06] unfortunately the options in the drop down have nothing at all to do with the field contents [09:07] aaaaand it doesn't even work [09:07] yeah i don't think we'll be migrating to this [09:14] silly place to ask a windows question, but on win7 .. how do you disable this thing where it hides all other windows when you mouse-over something on the taskbar? [09:15] shauno: you don't? [09:15] :( [09:15] maybe by right-clicking the taskbar, then settings/properties/ [09:16] maybe in the theme (but then you might have to disable all of aero) [09:17] it's incredibly distracting when you have multiple monitors. every single time I peek at the second screen to see what just happened, but it's just faded itself to wallpaper so it can show me a window on the first screen [09:17] so don't hover your mouse there [09:17] it only triggers after a second or two [09:23] seems turning aero off does the trick === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:31] morning [09:32] yo [09:35] yo-yo [10:24] does anyone actually like joomla? [10:24] anyone at all? [10:25] even people who like it don't seem to like it very much [10:26] morning boys and girls. [10:36] how would you implement, to assign dns addrs to devices to internal network devices like my rpi, so i dont have to remember ip addrs. [10:37] use ahavi [10:38] i already use that on some of those devices. [10:47] cant you just tell your dhcp server to dish out the dns addresses? [10:48] thats what i do [10:48] oh, you mean, have local dns? [10:49] i used to hack my router firmware to enable it to server a list of static hostnames [10:49] but i got fed up of doing that so i switched to avahi [10:50] yeah, i hard wired IP and host name in my dd-wrt router [10:52] thats another good solution, [10:53] what's your router brobostigon ? [10:54] ipv4 is a standard bt router, ipv6 said rpi. [10:56] dhcp also serves dns names but unsure if bog standard firmware does it [10:58] lol https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PRV2b-Lyf6g/UyxrbamfwVI/AAAAAAAATpQ/LARE_uQyHCw/w360-h221-no/3582_808d.gif [10:58] inside ipv6 that wouldnt be a problem, [10:59] avahi ftw [11:13] IE is actually going to make me cry. I Can easily imagine them giggling while they wrote this 'debugger' [12:01] got the heating on :( [12:06] oooh rich boy eh [12:10] i've got the windows open :/ [12:11] 7.2c, 14mph sw. [12:16] 3c :-( [12:30] son is doing the "bbc click dance" [12:54] libreplanet begins at about 1.45pm, I think [12:55] ooh windows. I remember that from the olden days [13:11] AlanBell: can i hire you port my wordpress plugin to joomla? [13:31] directhex: You got a nice link from greg-kh's G+ stream for your rocket [14:19] afternoon === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc [15:19] heya [15:19] time to kick it old school today and rip some audio CDs! [15:19] yes, i remember them! [15:19] thankfully i still have a working optical drive within my server [15:20] hm [15:20] daftykins know much bash? [15:20] its prob obvious but cant see why something isnt working [15:20] 'fraid not [15:20] ack [15:20] :) [15:20] pastebin 'er up though, i don't mind taking a glance [15:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7136159/ [15:21] the 2nd exec line [15:21] $BASEDIR/sc_serv $BASEDIR/sc_serv_basic.conf & [15:21] $BASEDIR/sc_trans $BASEDIR/sc_trans_basic.conf & [15:21] need both to be run so shoutcast will stream automatically - but first command runs and 2nd doesnt [15:22] tried using && so 2nd command runs if first was successful but the problem is sc_serv writes to stdout and just sits there with && and even with & making it go into the bg the 2nd wasnt run [15:22] does one or the other have a switch to execute in daemon mode and not continue outputting? [15:23] let me check a sec i dont recall seeing it though [15:25] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16677906/shoutcast-daemon-script-not-functioning-properly what if i did what theyve done there redrect output [15:26] ah ok found something daftykins if i set RealTime 0 and screenlog0 in the conf it doesnt output [15:27] and then when i run the cmd with & it dissapears so now both cmds should work? [15:27] *shrug* :) [15:27] proof's in the testing! === PaulW2U_ is now known as G4MBY [15:36] hoorah [15:36] works [15:36] :D [15:40] hm 2 people dl that directhex iso [15:40] one from Trinidad and Tobago [15:42] mapps: so.. it's 2 people, one from Trinidad, one from Tobago? :P [15:42] hah [15:42] one from t&t and one from USA [15:43] mapps: heh i was watching the stats of it fir a little while when i got up [15:44] couple of germans, an aussie, a chinese user [15:44] has it been given out then/ [15:44] I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPER SECRET [15:44] :D [15:44] well the plan was to get a good seeding base setup prior to him launching, so that peeps could grab it quick [15:44] he released last night a bit later on i believe [15:44] a good 32 seeds now so it says on mine \o/ [15:45] 6.713 ratio on mine :> [15:45] aha ok [15:45] hm [15:45] i only see one person when i click peers on mine [15:46] annoying about less than a mile from me where i used to live now has FTC [15:46] but STILL NOT HERE FOR ME [15:46] im a diff exchange;/ [15:46] yeah you only see # of users actively connected getting something from you [15:46] aha [15:51] hrmm AccurateRip is being rude to me [15:52] what about eac [15:53] it's a plugin for EAC yeah [15:53] ahh [15:53] ok didnt know [15:53] i was ust saying use eac;p [15:53] but guess you are=] [15:53] but it's refusing to show itself :D [15:53] so whats this plugin do [15:53] *nod* - doing super high accuracy rips for a... specific purpose shall we say [15:53] basically it goes off online and compares records with rips done by others [16:02] ah i see [16:02] compares how like quality its ripped at? [16:05] yep [16:05] against sorta known reference values [16:05] it's not hugely relevant if you're just ripping for yourself, i followed a guide to set it to super accurate mode [16:06] it's just a needed thing for what i'm up to [16:06] ah [16:07] ugh that album took 26 mins [16:08] ugh [16:08] its hailing outside [16:16] ugh yeah that was an 85% result [16:16] i need 100! :) [16:16] lol [16:16] what quality you rippng at [16:16] FLAC [16:17] but then i'll also do MP3 V0, V2 and 320Kbps CBR [16:18] ugh work in a bit wonder how annoyed i can get today [16:19] service desk and testing annoying me so much emails from those departments where people use terms that dont exist [16:20] haha [16:20] what like? [16:20] i cant think of any off hand but trust me theres loads [16:20] ive got a lot of auto delete rules on my inbox at work [16:20] sick and tired of useless emails [16:21] yay insert a more well known CD and accuraterip is a go \o/ [16:21] a prime example..if you have a car you have to register your details..well even though thats the case IF someones blocked someone in etc [16:21] they EMAIL EVERYONE [16:21] :/ [16:21] like uhh i dont even have a car..and even if i did..why not just email one person [16:21] sounds like a left-hand right-hand situation ;) [16:21] as in the two not talking [16:21] someone at work convinced work that the ipad loads websites faster [16:22] lmao [16:22] and they bought one for him to use [16:22] baffling [16:22] ofgs [16:22] amateurs [16:22] but 100% serious [16:22] its a betting company..so its expected but theres so many people that claim to know everythng [16:22] he trades formula1 and claims its faster than anything else on the ipad [16:22] didnt give any reasons [16:22] just faster..ok? [16:22] lol [16:23] i guess a given app could be faster on a given tablet [16:23] if it's just written better [16:23] but if it's just web browser usage... hmm [16:23] versus a super fast pc using livescore web [16:23] but there was no reason just 'its faster' [16:23] maybe it was faster ONCE [16:23] doesn't mean every single time...who knows maybe the ipad/mobile site uses a diff server ad it wasnt very busy at that time? [16:24] I just dont say anything..I laugh to myself but thats about it [16:25] yeah, best way sometimes :> [16:26] especially when there's the smell of bovine waste about [16:26] a client needed his whole music collection ripped once so we went to my old College to hire a kid [16:26] whenever i see him now, he just totally lies non-stop in conversation [16:26] i don't understand the child at all [16:27] he'd lie about trivial things like how reliable the uptime of his home broadband service was [16:27] why [16:27] 'yeah it only ever goes down when there's maintenance, it's great' [16:27] heh [16:27] but there's no published maintenance page... [16:27] strange boy indeed. [16:40] liars be liars [16:40] although i don't understand the need to compulsively lie about things that dont even matter [16:41] exactly [16:42] a lot of the time, they're mostly doing it to lie to themselves. eg, I'll tell you my connection is awesome - because I feel guilty about what I pay for it, and want to believe it myself [16:42] like, i can totally attest to not necessarily asking questions if i didn't fully understand something someone said when i was younger - but you grow out of it === Guest45910 is now known as Monotoko [17:02] hai [17:03] wb [17:04] :D [17:04] busy busy busy worker bee [17:04] thats what i am [17:06] so what TV are you watching? ;) [17:06] baseball [17:07] my first game is det @ tor pre season baseball. [17:07] that ive gots to 'trade' aka set the odds live during the game [17:07] but unfortunately im sitting opposite someone who's above me..so have to be careful how much im typing/not doing work struff :( [17:07] do you have to fully understand the rules of the games you work with? [17:07] it helps [17:08] but not if you use the multi tools -where basically it uses a feed from a scout [17:08] like say you can do 6 soccer games at once using a feed [17:08] but for single stuff where youre doing 1 game at a time ya [17:08] so if u watch det @ tor on bet365.com thats what im doing;p [17:20] lol [17:21] ^_^ [17:22] whats wrong with women who are 40+ not realising fake tan/fake hair etc is embarassing [17:22] looking like a tart at that age [17:22] :( [17:24] struggling to let go i guess [17:25] 'more clearer' is it me or does that just sound wrong? [17:25] yeah it's redundant [17:26] well, just not right [17:26] yea [17:26] it just sounded funny to me [17:27] i keep seeing in articles lately - "pre-planning" [17:27] =/ [17:28] pre planning lol [17:28] i hereby plan to plan this :> [17:28] ah [17:28] i plan to plan to plan [17:28] :D [17:29] i was wondering the other day how much is it costing me to run my 3 machines 24/7 my laptop / netbook for irc and my ubuntu machine [17:29] probably about £1 per day [17:29] you reckon? [17:29] for all 3? [17:29] sure [17:29] hm [17:30] my bill was like 340 for a quarter gas and electric and i live on my own and try not to have the heating on much [17:30] do you have a freezer? [17:30] ah yea [17:30] fridge freezer running 24/7 [17:30] good point never considered that [17:31] that's probably like half your bill [17:31] so i dont need to worry about having them all on really [17:31] well, 1/4 [17:32] my ubuntu machine's like 9years old..i bought it in my 2nd year of uni , dell dimension desktop [17:32] and it still runs xubuntu well enough imo [17:33] no need to retire it:) [17:33] apache httpd/openvpn/shoutcast/mariadb/ [17:41] when i upgraded my server's storage i went on quite a power consumption kick [17:41] upgrading from 8 x 250GB HDDs to 6 x 1TB meant i increased storage *and* cut power a fair bit :) [17:41] my server uses ~100W idle [17:42] what did you do with the old disks [17:42] thats why i hate upgrading ..i dont wanna get rid of anything :D [17:43] gave them to a friend along with my older RAID controller card they went with, but apparently they slowly cascaded to death [17:43] ah [17:43] i want to buy 4 x 4TB disks [17:43] what ram/cpu is yours [17:43] pretty basic Pentium dual core 2GHz with 4GB [17:44] mines a core 2 duo 2gb ram i think [17:45] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz [17:48] hm how can i check memory meminfo from proc i guess? [17:49] indeed [17:49] kB thats kilobytes not bits ye? [17:49] must be [17:50] well my machine has even less ram than i thought lol [17:50] mark@frogs:/proc$ cat meminfo MemTotal: 1016548 kB [17:50] :D [17:51] around 1GB then [17:51] ja [17:51] onboard graphics stealing 8MB by the looks [17:51] had the machine since mmh i guess 2005 [17:51] or 32 0o [17:51] considering its now 9years old its quite cool that Xubuntu runs well on it eh? [17:51] well it is specifically meant to be lightweight [17:52] I mean you could use it for browsing/watchng videos (vlc) everything, obviously games wouldnt be great and i mean sure heavy compiling would take a while and it couldnt handle as many threads for apache/mysql probably and itd slow down [17:52] but its kinda neat being able to run a vpn server/httpd/smtp/ all on that old box :) and this irc client is running off it [17:53] you must be dipping into swap on that thing? [17:53] hm [17:53] well [17:53] 'free -m' ? [17:53] how would i check? also remember , my vpn gets like no use - only i use it and not often, just for testing mainly [17:53] and my apache webserver..well nothing on there and im the only visitor..I us it for this irc client :P and also shellinabox which is running on it [17:54] mainly setup all these things as testing and learning :D [17:54] fmark@frogs:~$ free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 992 871 121 0 8 439 -/+ buffers/cache: 423 569 [17:55] ah, no swap [17:55] teehee [17:55] whats running on your server [17:55] well it's a Windows host with two VMs of ubuntu server atop it [17:55] one i'm typing from now is irssi dedicated, the other is a web server [17:59] bucketing down again here [17:59] ;( [17:59] it's fine if you've got nowhere to go :D [18:00] ja [18:00] and i dont for like 9hours [18:40] yess got the booth to myself [18:41] daftykins: you know of any good ebooks or sites for learning the linux command line.,.likw i know basics but not enough and certainly not enough about options with commands..and dont say rtfm or man:P [18:41] XD [18:41] no ideas i'm afraid [18:41] oke:D [18:41] i'd only be googling for a newbie manual [18:42] yea [18:50] !terminal | maps|wrk The intial link is very basic, but looks like quite a few links at the bottom that may be useful, [18:50] maps|wrk The intial link is very basic, but looks like quite a few links at the bottom that may be useful,: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [18:50] thanks [18:51] http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz Looks pretty detailed [18:52] sweet ta [18:54] * penguin42 wonders whether there will be 2038bug parties [19:06] anyone use webmin? just been reading about it is all [19:06] webmin is BAD [19:07] insecure? [19:10] Not supported in Ubuntu, appears to have a habit of breaking things [19:10] !webmin [19:10] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. [19:15] ahh ok i thought it would be security reaosns:) [19:15] reasons [19:17] I think the suggested alternative now is Zentyl [19:17] !ebox [19:17] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc [19:25] right time for me to move desks [19:25] :) [21:19] back === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [21:52] quiet ere again [21:53] for some reason it feels like Sunday [21:55] sundays are always a slow quiet day eh [21:55] what you doing? im reading up on the command line still [21:55] :D [21:57] did food at the top of the hour, sat in the lounge considering whether to watch something on the TV now [21:58] hmm prob nothing good on [21:59] well i've got my HTPC fired up so what's on is what i make it :D [21:59] ahh [21:59] thought you meant tv tv [21:59] :D [21:59] nah i don't even have a broadcast service hooked up [21:59] i was using my TV's smart capabilities to watch some news progs on the iPlayer though [22:00] watch that show about deathrow [22:00] that was quite interesting [22:02] hmm didn't see anything about that [22:03] if you wish or need to ever flip text upside down [vertical flip] "uʍop ǝpısdn ʇxǝʇ dıʃɟ" or/and create reverse text here is a terminal way to achieve this [22:03] LOL [22:03] yo daftykins - it's here [22:03] http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03ytvjz/Life_and_Death_Row_Execution/ [22:04] ah man upside down text is a thing i need on a daily basis! ;) [22:04] oooh now i see the pic i did see that listed under Factual [22:05] daftykins: ɟo ɥɔnɯ ooʇ ǝʌɐɥ uɐɔ noʎ buıɥʇǝɯos s,ʇı ʞuıɥʇ ı [22:06] lol [22:06] its a decent watch imo daftykins [22:07] penguin42: ah, like all good things in life [22:10] ooh just broke 9 seeded on stephenson's rocket [22:14] =] [22:14] I'm on 5.73 and 7.17 [22:15] http://imgur.com/gallery/I02PB [22:15] i was looking at this last night [22:15] can barely notice a difference 0o [22:23] thats pretty cool [22:23] will have a proper look in a bit [22:23] :) [22:33] might get the film it references [22:41] so what did you decide to watch daftykins [22:42] i've got a bit of an anime on right now [22:42] a Ghost in the Shell film [22:42] ah [22:42] undecided if i'll stick at it though [22:53] hmm.... bootstrap is really good [22:53] this might save me from the horrors of joomla === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc [23:46] yo [23:51] wb [23:52] :) [23:55] ever used http://www.centerim.org/index.php/Main_Page ?