[00:01] <daftykins> ooh i'm pushing max upload
[00:01] <diddledan> I've got nobody on my home connection and 1user on my server
[00:01] <daftykins> heh
[00:02] <directhex> bedtime. i seem to have the flu, recorded that last video full of coughs :(
[00:02] <directhex> and yes i still have my headache, 24 hours solid now
[00:04] <daftykins> :(
[00:05] <daftykins> directhex: get well soon o/
[00:05] <daftykins> ooh a Swede and an IPv6 user now
[00:08] <diddledan> I've got two users each on home and server - same pair on both
[00:08] <maps|wrk> hi guys
[00:08] <diddledan> ello maps|wrk
[00:10] <directhex> traffic increasing. ganalytics says 18 visitors right now
[00:10] <directhex> right, bed
[00:10] <popey> uploading at ~300K/s
[00:10] <diddledan> ganalytics?
[00:10] <directhex> https://www.google.com/analytics/
[00:10] <diddledan> oh google
[00:11] <diddledan> what's the website? I've not seen that yet
[00:12] <maps|wrk> il start mine in a bit
[00:12] <maps|wrk> ;]
[00:12] <directhex> http://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/?r93
[00:45] <maps|wrk> noone awake now? O_o
[00:46] <daftykins> sorta
[00:50] <shauno> I shouldn't be :/
[00:51] <daftykins> that's a bad shauno!
[00:51] <shauno> tell me about it.  I've got to be up at 5!
[00:51] <daftykins> whaaaaaat!
[00:51] <diddledan> ouch, on a saturday, too
[00:51] <daftykins> what ever for?
[00:51] <shauno> the W word
[00:52] <maps|wrk> ugh
[00:52] <daftykins> Windsurfing you say
[00:52] <daftykins> ;D
[00:52] <shauno> something like that ;)
[00:55] <maps|wrk> :)
[00:55] <maps|wrk> hm might go see new captain america next week
[00:55] <maps|wrk> so id better watch the 1st one soon:D
[00:56] <shauno> heh, I wouldn't worry that much.  they don't tend to be *that* plot-heavy
[00:57] <maps|wrk> O_o
[00:57] <maps|wrk> may aswell though
[00:57] <daftykins> that that nancy with the shield?
[00:57] <maps|wrk> might go to see it at IMAX
[00:58] <maps|wrk> not sure daftykins  you seen capain america?
[00:58] <daftykins> think so ja
[01:00] <shauno> I've got to the point where I give hollywood so little credit, that I'm surprised they didn't try to make a sequel to schindler's list
[01:02] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/eFELgBt.jpg
[01:06] <maps|wrk> most films are a bit poor
[01:06] <maps|wrk> especially comedies
[01:06] <maps|wrk> the best part of a lot of comedies is shown in the trailer :) so many poor/dissapointing comedies imo
[01:07] <maps|wrk> you see the internship?
[01:09] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/JmC9tzS.jpg
[01:10] <maps|wrk> pretty
[01:22] <diddledan> http://www.godotengine.org/wp/
[01:22] <diddledan> nice
[01:22] <diddledan> give unity a run-for-their-money
[01:28] <maps|wrk> what is it
[01:28] <diddledan> game engine
[01:28] <maps|wrk> and what was that picture from daftykins ?
[01:29] <maps|wrk> for what?
[01:29] <diddledan> making games with
[01:31] <diddledan> the studio that created it in-house made this show-reel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=065h_cO5cT4
[01:31] <daftykins> eh just got lost as i often do for 5 minutes after someone linked to something else on imgur
[01:34] <maps|wrk> so wha was that picture from ?:)
[01:34] <daftykins> just someones drawing as far as i can tell
[01:37] <maps|wrk> ah
[04:46] <mapps> ah cool directhex its downloaded leaving it seeding now
[04:50] <ali1234> joomla sucks ... sorry but it does
[04:51] <ali1234> you can't do anything with one extension... you have to write several to even accomplish a simple task
[06:15] <knightwise> hey everyone :)
[06:30] <ali1234> how do i use valgrind to find a memory leak when the program frees everything at exit?
[06:31] <knightwise> morning SuperEngineer ali1234 mapps
[06:32] <SuperEngineer> morninks knightwise
[06:32] <knightwise> hey guys
[06:33] <knightwise> I got a question. I have a lenovo twist running 13.10 ,
[06:33] <knightwise> works great and all that
[06:33] <knightwise> I have an external keyboard and mouse connected , but the twist also has a touchscreen.
[06:33] <knightwise> So when I rotate the touchscreen into portrait mode it works fine with the external keuyboard and mouse
[06:34] <knightwise> but the orientation of the "touchscreen" stays in portrait mode
[06:34] <knightwise> sorry , landscape mode
[06:34] <knightwise> so to summarize : When I rotate my display to portrait mode , my touchscreen remains in landscape mode
[06:34] <knightwise> anyone know how to fix this ?
[06:35] <ali1234> unity 7 doesn't have real touchscreen support
[06:35] <ali1234> nor rotation
[06:35] <ali1234> i assume you are rotating the display int he graphics driver
[06:35] <knightwise> i can easily rotate it using xrandr ,
[06:35] <ali1234> right
[06:35] <knightwise> and the orientation of my mouse works fine then.
[06:36] <knightwise> but its just the orientation of the touchscreen that stays in landscape mode
[06:36] <ali1234> yes because it rotates the whole display, including the mouse cursor
[06:36] <knightwise> yes
[06:36] <knightwise> except is does NOT rotate the touchscreen sensor
[06:36] <ali1234> right, why would it?
[06:36] <knightwise> because the screen is in portrait mode ?
[06:37] <ali1234> no, the video output is rotated into portrait mode
[06:37] <knightwise> aha
[06:37] <ali1234> nothing else changes
[06:37] <SuperEngineer> any suitable resolutions [for portrit mode] showing in display properties
[06:37] <knightwise> so I now need to find a way to rotate the touchscreen into portrait mode
[06:37] <ali1234> yes
[06:37] <ali1234> think about it:
[06:38] <knightwise> SuperEngineer: no : when I rotate the screen from the display properties (or with xrander) everything works when I use an external mouse ( mouse input also goes into portrait mode)
[06:38] <ali1234> if you turn the screen to portrait mode
[06:38] <knightwise> but the touchscreen stays in landscape mode
[06:38] <ali1234> and don't actually physically rotate the device
[06:38] <ali1234> then the mouse cursor will also move incorrectly
[06:38] <ali1234> this is because you only rotated the output
[06:38] <knightwise> lets recap :
[06:39] <knightwise> laptop is in portrait mode.
[06:39] <ali1234> alternatively, if you put the device into portrait and then also rotate your mouse by 90 degrees, then it will also be wrong
[06:39] <knightwise> i use an external keyboard and mouse
[06:39] <knightwise> when I rotate the screen (using the display settings) into portrait mode
[06:39] <knightwise> 1 orientation of the screen changes (OK)
[06:40] <knightwise> 2 orientation of my EXTERNAL mouse changes to match the rotation (ALSO O)
[06:40] <ali1234> no, see, that's where you;re wrong
[06:40] <ali1234> nothing changes about the external mouse
[06:41] <knightwise> so how can i make the same thing true for the touch interface
[06:41] <ali1234> the same thing is already true for the touch interface
[06:41] <knightwise> my question : how do you change the orientation of the touch interface 90 degrees
[06:42] <ali1234> you would need to transform the coordinates somehow
[06:42] <knightwise> if I could get that working I would really be able to use the thing as an actual tablet for reading and stufdf
[06:42] <ali1234> what type of touch screen is it?
[06:43] <knightwise>  echo 0 blink > /proc/acpi/ibm/led
[06:43] <knightwise> sorry , its an ATMEL ATMEL maxtouch digitizer
[06:43] <ali1234> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972447
[06:44] <knightwise> Ah :) Gonna give it a try :à)
[06:45] <knightwise> thanx
[06:51] <knightwise> YES
[06:51] <knightwise> it worked )
[06:51] <knightwise> now I just need to find some keybindings to make this work automatically
[06:51] <knightwise> thanx ali1234
[08:19] <ahusam> Hi
[08:50] <shauno> I think I've just pullled off a miracle.  I actually spent less time beating something in the face until it worked in IE, than I spent writing it in the first place \o/
[08:59] <ali1234> lol. there is a joomla extension that makes joomla extensions
[08:59] <ali1234> this is the worst thing i've ever seen
[09:00] <ali1234> i mean without a doubt this is the most convoluted and awful MVC system i've ever encountered
[09:00] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: look at the database query log too :)
[09:01] <MartijnVdS> It retrieves *everything* from the database, twice, then sorts/filters on the client side
[09:01] <ali1234> you feed it 20 lines of SQL and the extension generates the 100kb of boilerplate garbage that is needed to let joomla use it
[09:01] <ali1234> wait, my bad. it's actually 231kb. zipped.
[09:06] <ali1234> lol this is awful
[09:06] <ali1234> it randomly decided to add a drop down filter box on one of the admin views
[09:06] <ali1234> unfortunately the options in the drop down have nothing at all to do with the field contents
[09:07] <ali1234> aaaaand it doesn't even work
[09:07] <ali1234> yeah i don't think we'll be migrating to this
[09:14] <shauno> silly place to ask a windows question, but on win7 .. how do you disable this thing where it hides all other windows when you mouse-over something on the taskbar?
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> shauno: you don't?
[09:15] <shauno> :(
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> maybe by right-clicking the taskbar, then settings/properties/
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> maybe in the theme (but then you might have to disable all of aero)
[09:17] <shauno> it's incredibly distracting when you have multiple monitors.  every single time I peek at the second screen to see what just happened, but it's just faded itself to wallpaper so it can show me a window on the first screen
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> so don't hover your mouse there
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> it only triggers after a second or two
[09:23] <shauno> seems turning aero off does the trick
[09:31] <bashrc> morning
[09:32] <popey> yo
[09:35] <MartijnVdS> yo-yo
[10:24] <ali1234> does anyone actually like joomla?
[10:24] <ali1234> anyone at all?
[10:25] <ali1234> even people who like it don't seem to like it very much
[10:26] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:36] <brobostigon> how would you implement, to assign dns addrs to devices to internal network devices like my rpi, so i dont have to remember ip addrs.
[10:37] <ali1234> use ahavi
[10:38] <brobostigon> i already use that on some of those devices.
[10:47] <popey> cant you just tell your dhcp server to dish out the dns addresses?
[10:48] <popey> thats what i do
[10:48] <popey> oh, you mean, have local dns?
[10:49] <ali1234> i used to hack my router firmware to enable it to server a list of static hostnames
[10:49] <ali1234> but i got fed up of doing that so i switched to avahi
[10:50] <popey> yeah, i hard wired IP and host name in my dd-wrt router
[10:52] <brobostigon> thats another good solution,
[10:53] <foobarry> what's your router brobostigon ?
[10:54] <brobostigon> ipv4 is a standard bt router, ipv6 said rpi.
[10:56] <foobarry> dhcp also serves dns names but unsure if bog standard firmware does it
[10:58] <foobarry> lol https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PRV2b-Lyf6g/UyxrbamfwVI/AAAAAAAATpQ/LARE_uQyHCw/w360-h221-no/3582_808d.gif
[10:58] <brobostigon> inside ipv6 that wouldnt be a problem,
[10:59] <shauno> avahi ftw
[11:13] <shauno> IE is actually going to make me cry.  I Can easily imagine them giggling while they wrote this 'debugger'
[12:01] <foobarry> got the heating on :(
[12:06] <shauno> oooh rich boy eh
[12:10] <ali1234> i've got the windows open :/
[12:11] <brobostigon> 7.2c, 14mph sw.
[12:16] <penguin42> 3c :-(
[12:30] <foobarry> son is doing the "bbc click dance"
[12:54] <bashrc> libreplanet begins at about 1.45pm, I think
[12:55] <bashrc> ooh windows.  I remember that from the olden days
[13:11] <ali1234> AlanBell: can i hire you port my wordpress plugin to joomla?
[13:31] <penguin42> directhex: You got a nice link from greg-kh's G+ stream for your rocket
[14:19] <mapps> afternoon
[15:19] <daftykins> heya
[15:19] <daftykins> time to kick it old school today and rip some audio CDs!
[15:19] <daftykins> yes, i remember them!
[15:19] <daftykins> thankfully i still have a working optical drive within my server
[15:20] <mapps> hm
[15:20] <mapps> daftykins know much bash?
[15:20] <mapps> its prob obvious but cant see why something isnt working
[15:20] <daftykins> 'fraid not
[15:20] <mapps> ack
[15:20] <mapps> :)
[15:20] <daftykins> pastebin 'er up though, i don't mind taking a glance
[15:21] <mapps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7136159/
[15:21] <mapps> the 2nd exec line
[15:21] <mapps>  $BASEDIR/sc_serv $BASEDIR/sc_serv_basic.conf &
[15:21] <mapps> 		$BASEDIR/sc_trans $BASEDIR/sc_trans_basic.conf &
[15:21] <mapps> need both to be run so shoutcast will stream automatically - but first command runs and 2nd doesnt
[15:22] <mapps> tried using && so 2nd command runs if first was successful but the problem is sc_serv writes to stdout and just sits there with && and even with & making it go into the bg the 2nd wasnt run
[15:22] <daftykins> does one or the other have a switch to execute in daemon mode and not continue outputting?
[15:23] <mapps> let me check a sec i dont recall seeing it though
[15:25] <mapps> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16677906/shoutcast-daemon-script-not-functioning-properly what if i did what theyve done there redrect output
[15:26] <mapps> ah ok found something daftykins if i set RealTime 0 and screenlog0 in the conf it doesnt output
[15:27] <mapps> and then when i run the cmd with & it dissapears so now both cmds should work?
[15:27] <daftykins> *shrug* :)
[15:27] <daftykins> proof's in the testing!
[15:36] <mapps> hoorah
[15:36] <mapps> works
[15:36] <mapps> :D
[15:40] <mapps> hm 2 people dl that directhex iso
[15:40] <mapps> one from Trinidad and Tobago
[15:42] <MartijnVdS> mapps: so.. it's 2 people, one from Trinidad, one from Tobago? :P
[15:42] <mapps> hah
[15:42] <mapps> one from t&t and one from USA
[15:43] <daftykins> mapps: heh i was watching the stats of it fir a little while when i got up
[15:44] <daftykins> couple of germans, an aussie, a chinese user
[15:44] <mapps> has it been given out then/
[15:44] <mapps> I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPER SECRET
[15:44] <mapps> :D
[15:44] <daftykins> well the plan was to get a good seeding base setup prior to him launching, so that peeps could grab it quick
[15:44] <daftykins> he released last night a bit later on i believe
[15:44] <daftykins> a good 32 seeds now so it says on mine \o/
[15:45] <daftykins> 6.713 ratio on mine :>
[15:45] <mapps> aha ok
[15:45] <mapps> hm
[15:45] <mapps> i only see one person when i click peers on mine
[15:46] <mapps> annoying about less than a mile from me where i used to live now has FTC
[15:46] <mapps> but STILL NOT HERE FOR ME
[15:46] <mapps> im a diff exchange;/
[15:46] <daftykins> yeah you only see # of users actively connected getting something from you
[15:46] <mapps> aha
[15:51] <daftykins> hrmm AccurateRip is being rude to me
[15:52] <mapps> what about eac
[15:53] <daftykins> it's a plugin for EAC yeah
[15:53] <mapps> ahh
[15:53] <mapps> ok didnt know
[15:53] <mapps> i was ust saying use eac;p
[15:53] <mapps> but guess you are=]
[15:53] <daftykins> but it's refusing to show itself :D
[15:53] <mapps> so whats this plugin do
[15:53] <daftykins> *nod* - doing super high accuracy rips for a... specific purpose shall we say
[15:53] <daftykins> basically it goes off online and compares records with rips done by others
[16:02] <mapps> ah i see
[16:02] <mapps> compares how like quality its ripped at?
[16:05] <daftykins> yep
[16:05] <daftykins> against sorta known reference values
[16:05] <daftykins> it's not hugely relevant if you're just ripping for yourself, i followed a guide to set it to super accurate mode
[16:06] <daftykins> it's just a needed thing for what i'm up to
[16:06] <mapps> ah
[16:07] <daftykins> ugh that album took 26 mins
[16:08] <mapps> ugh
[16:08] <mapps> its hailing outside
[16:16] <daftykins> ugh yeah that was an 85% result
[16:16] <daftykins> i need 100! :)
[16:16] <mapps> lol
[16:16] <mapps> what quality you rippng at
[16:16] <daftykins> FLAC
[16:17] <daftykins> but then i'll also do MP3 V0, V2 and 320Kbps CBR
[16:18] <mapps> ugh work in a bit wonder how annoyed i can get today
[16:19] <mapps> service desk and testing annoying me so much emails from those departments where people use terms that dont exist
[16:20] <daftykins> haha
[16:20] <daftykins> what like?
[16:20] <mapps> i cant think of any off hand but trust me theres loads
[16:20] <mapps> ive got a lot of auto delete rules on my inbox at work
[16:20] <mapps> sick and tired of useless emails
[16:21] <daftykins> yay insert a more well known CD and accuraterip is a go \o/
[16:21] <mapps> a prime example..if you have a car you have to register your details..well even though thats the case IF someones blocked someone in etc
[16:21] <mapps> they EMAIL EVERYONE
[16:21] <daftykins> :/
[16:21] <mapps> like uhh i dont even have a car..and even if i did..why not just email one person
[16:21] <daftykins> sounds like a left-hand right-hand situation ;)
[16:21] <daftykins> as in the two not talking
[16:21] <mapps> someone at work convinced work that the ipad loads websites faster
[16:22] <daftykins> lmao
[16:22] <mapps> and they bought one for him to use
[16:22] <mapps> baffling
[16:22] <daftykins> ofgs
[16:22] <daftykins> amateurs
[16:22] <mapps> but 100% serious
[16:22] <mapps> its a betting company..so its expected but theres so many people that claim to know everythng
[16:22] <mapps> he trades formula1 and claims its faster than anything else on the ipad
[16:22] <mapps> didnt give any reasons
[16:22] <mapps> just faster..ok?
[16:22] <mapps> lol
[16:23] <daftykins> i guess a given app could be faster on a given tablet
[16:23] <daftykins> if it's just written better
[16:23] <daftykins> but if it's just web browser usage... hmm
[16:23] <mapps> versus a super fast pc using livescore web
[16:23] <mapps> but there was no reason just 'its faster'
[16:23] <mapps> maybe it was faster ONCE
[16:23] <mapps> doesn't mean every single time...who knows maybe the ipad/mobile site uses a diff server ad it wasnt very busy at that time?
[16:24] <mapps> I just dont say anything..I laugh to myself but thats about it
[16:25] <daftykins> yeah, best way sometimes :>
[16:26] <daftykins> especially when there's the smell of bovine waste about
[16:26] <daftykins> a client needed his whole music collection ripped once so we went to my old College to hire a kid
[16:26] <daftykins> whenever i see him now, he just totally lies non-stop in conversation
[16:26] <daftykins> i don't understand the child at all
[16:27] <daftykins> he'd lie about trivial things like how reliable the uptime of his home broadband service was
[16:27] <mapps> why
[16:27] <daftykins> 'yeah it only ever goes down when there's maintenance, it's great'
[16:27] <mapps> heh
[16:27] <daftykins> but there's no published maintenance page...
[16:27] <daftykins> strange boy indeed.
[16:40] <foobarry> liars be liars
[16:40] <foobarry> although i don't understand the need to compulsively lie about things that dont even matter
[16:41] <daftykins> exactly
[16:42] <shauno> a lot of the time, they're mostly doing it to lie to themselves.  eg, I'll tell you my connection is awesome - because I feel guilty about what I pay for it, and want to believe it myself
[16:42] <daftykins> like, i can totally attest to not necessarily asking questions if i didn't fully understand something someone said when i was younger - but you grow out of it
[17:02] <maps|wrk> hai
[17:03] <daftykins> wb
[17:04] <maps|wrk> :D
[17:04] <maps|wrk> busy busy busy worker bee
[17:04] <maps|wrk> thats what i am
[17:06] <daftykins> so what TV are you watching? ;)
[17:06] <maps|wrk> baseball
[17:07] <maps|wrk> my first game is det @ tor pre season baseball.
[17:07] <maps|wrk> that ive gots to 'trade' aka set the odds live during the game
[17:07] <maps|wrk> but unfortunately im sitting opposite someone who's above me..so have to be careful how much im typing/not doing work struff :(
[17:07] <daftykins> do you have to fully understand the rules of the games you work with?
[17:07] <maps|wrk> it helps
[17:08] <maps|wrk> but not if you use the multi tools -where basically it uses a feed from a scout
[17:08] <maps|wrk> like say you can do 6 soccer games at once using a feed
[17:08] <maps|wrk> but for single stuff where youre doing 1 game at a time ya
[17:08] <maps|wrk> so if u watch det @ tor on bet365.com thats what im doing;p
[17:20] <maps|wrk> lol
[17:21] <daftykins> ^_^
[17:22] <maps|wrk> whats wrong with women who are 40+ not realising fake tan/fake hair etc is embarassing
[17:22] <maps|wrk> looking like a tart at that age
[17:22] <maps|wrk> :(
[17:24] <daftykins> struggling to let go i guess
[17:25] <maps|wrk> 'more clearer' is it me or does that just sound wrong?
[17:25] <daftykins> yeah it's redundant
[17:26] <daftykins> well, just not right
[17:26] <maps|wrk> yea
[17:26] <maps|wrk> it just sounded funny to me
[17:27] <daftykins> i keep seeing in articles lately - "pre-planning"
[17:27] <daftykins> =/
[17:28] <maps|wrk> pre planning lol
[17:28] <daftykins> i hereby plan to plan this :>
[17:28] <maps|wrk> ah
[17:28] <maps|wrk> i plan to plan to plan
[17:28] <maps|wrk> :D
[17:29] <maps|wrk> i was wondering the other day how much is it costing me to run my 3 machines 24/7 my laptop / netbook for irc and my ubuntu machine
[17:29] <ali1234> probably about £1 per day
[17:29] <maps|wrk> you reckon?
[17:29] <maps|wrk> for all 3?
[17:29] <ali1234> sure
[17:29] <maps|wrk> hm
[17:30] <maps|wrk> my bill was like 340 for a quarter gas and electric and i live on my own and try not to have the heating on much
[17:30] <ali1234> do you have a freezer?
[17:30] <maps|wrk> ah yea
[17:30] <maps|wrk> fridge freezer running 24/7
[17:30] <maps|wrk> good point never considered that
[17:31] <ali1234> that's probably like half your bill
[17:31] <maps|wrk> so i dont need to worry about having them all on really
[17:31] <ali1234> well, 1/4
[17:32] <maps|wrk> my ubuntu machine's like 9years old..i bought it in my 2nd year of uni , dell dimension desktop
[17:32] <maps|wrk> and it still runs xubuntu well enough imo
[17:33] <maps|wrk> no need to retire it:)
[17:33] <maps|wrk> apache httpd/openvpn/shoutcast/mariadb/
[17:41] <daftykins> when i upgraded my server's storage i went on quite a power consumption kick
[17:41] <daftykins> upgrading from 8 x 250GB HDDs to 6 x 1TB meant i increased storage *and* cut power a fair bit :)
[17:41] <daftykins> my server uses ~100W idle
[17:42] <maps|wrk> what did you do with the old disks
[17:42] <maps|wrk> thats why i hate upgrading ..i dont wanna get rid of anything :D
[17:43] <daftykins> gave them to a friend along with my older RAID controller card they went with, but apparently they slowly cascaded to death
[17:43] <maps|wrk> ah
[17:43] <ali1234> i want to buy 4 x 4TB disks
[17:43] <maps|wrk> what ram/cpu is yours
[17:43] <daftykins> pretty basic Pentium dual core 2GHz with 4GB
[17:44] <maps|wrk> mines a core 2 duo 2gb ram i think
[17:45] <maps|wrk> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
[17:48] <maps|wrk> hm how can i check memory meminfo from proc i guess?
[17:49] <daftykins> indeed
[17:49] <maps|wrk> kB thats kilobytes not bits ye?
[17:49] <maps|wrk> must be
[17:50] <maps|wrk> well my machine has even less ram than i thought lol
[17:50] <maps|wrk> mark@frogs:/proc$ cat meminfo                                                                                               MemTotal:        1016548 kB
[17:50] <maps|wrk> :D
[17:51] <daftykins> around 1GB then
[17:51] <maps|wrk> ja
[17:51] <daftykins> onboard graphics stealing 8MB by the looks
[17:51] <maps|wrk> had the machine since mmh i guess 2005
[17:51] <daftykins> or 32 0o
[17:51] <maps|wrk> considering its now 9years old its quite cool that Xubuntu runs well on it eh?
[17:51] <daftykins> well it is specifically meant to be lightweight
[17:52] <maps|wrk> I mean you could use it for browsing/watchng videos (vlc) everything, obviously games wouldnt be great and i mean sure heavy compiling would take a while and it couldnt handle as many threads for apache/mysql probably and itd slow down
[17:52] <maps|wrk> but its kinda neat being able to run a vpn server/httpd/smtp/ all on that old box :) and this irc client is running off it
[17:53] <daftykins> you must be dipping into swap on that thing?
[17:53] <maps|wrk> hm
[17:53] <maps|wrk> well
[17:53] <daftykins> 'free -m' ?
[17:53] <maps|wrk> how would i check? also remember , my vpn gets like no use - only i use it and not often, just for testing mainly
[17:53] <maps|wrk> and my apache webserver..well nothing on there and im the only visitor..I us it for this irc client :P and also shellinabox which is running on it
[17:54] <maps|wrk> mainly setup all these things as testing and learning :D
[17:54] <maps|wrk> fmark@frogs:~$ free -m                                                                                                                   total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached                                                   Mem:           992        871        121          0          8        439                                                   -/+ buffers/cache:        423        569
[17:55] <daftykins> ah, no swap
[17:55] <maps|wrk> teehee
[17:55] <maps|wrk> whats running on your server
[17:55] <daftykins> well it's a Windows host with two VMs of ubuntu server atop it
[17:55] <daftykins> one i'm typing from now is irssi dedicated, the other is a web server
[17:59] <maps|wrk> bucketing down again here
[17:59] <maps|wrk> ;(
[17:59] <daftykins> it's fine if you've got nowhere to go :D
[18:00] <maps|wrk> ja
[18:00] <maps|wrk> and i dont for like 9hours
[18:40] <maps|wrk> yess got the booth to myself
[18:41] <maps|wrk> daftykins:  you know of any good ebooks or sites for learning the linux command line.,.likw i know basics but not enough and certainly not enough about options with commands..and dont say rtfm or man:P
[18:41] <daftykins> XD
[18:41] <daftykins> no ideas i'm afraid
[18:41] <maps|wrk> oke:D
[18:41] <daftykins> i'd only be googling for a newbie manual
[18:42] <maps|wrk> yea
[18:50] <DJones> !terminal | maps|wrk The intial link is very basic, but looks like quite a few links at the bottom that may be useful,
[18:50] <maps|wrk> thanks
[18:51] <DJones> http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz Looks pretty detailed
[18:52] <maps|wrk> sweet ta
[18:54]  * penguin42 wonders whether there will be 2038bug parties
[19:06] <maps|wrk> anyone use webmin? just been reading about it is all
[19:06] <MartijnVdS> webmin is BAD
[19:07] <maps|wrk> insecure?
[19:10] <DJones> Not supported in Ubuntu, appears to have a habit of breaking things
[19:10] <DJones> !webmin
[19:15] <maps|wrk> ahh ok i thought it would be security reaosns:)
[19:15] <maps|wrk> reasons
[19:17] <DJones> I think the suggested alternative now is Zentyl
[19:17] <DJones> !ebox
[19:25] <maps|wrk> right time for me to move desks
[19:25] <maps|wrk> :)
[21:19] <maps|wrk> back
[21:52] <maps|wrk> quiet ere again
[21:53] <daftykins> for some reason it feels like Sunday
[21:55] <maps|wrk> sundays are always a slow quiet day eh
[21:55] <maps|wrk> what you doing? im reading up on the command line still
[21:55] <maps|wrk> :D
[21:57] <daftykins> did food at the top of the hour, sat in the lounge considering whether to watch something on the TV now
[21:58] <maps|wrk> hmm prob nothing good on
[21:59] <daftykins> well i've got my HTPC fired up so what's on is what i make it :D
[21:59] <maps|wrk> ahh
[21:59] <maps|wrk> thought you meant tv tv
[21:59] <maps|wrk> :D
[21:59] <daftykins> nah i don't even have a broadcast service hooked up
[21:59] <daftykins> i was using my TV's smart capabilities to watch some news progs on the iPlayer though
[22:00] <maps|wrk> watch that show about deathrow
[22:00] <maps|wrk> that was quite interesting
[22:02] <daftykins> hmm didn't see anything about that
[22:03] <maps|wrk> if you wish or need to ever flip text upside down [vertical flip] "uʍop ǝpısdn ʇxǝʇ dıʃɟ" or/and create reverse text here is a terminal way to achieve this
[22:03] <maps|wrk> LOL
[22:03] <maps|wrk> yo daftykins  - it's here
[22:03] <maps|wrk> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03ytvjz/Life_and_Death_Row_Execution/
[22:04] <daftykins> ah man upside down text is a thing i need on a daily basis! ;)
[22:04] <daftykins> oooh now i see the pic i did see that listed under Factual
[22:05] <penguin42> daftykins: ɟo ɥɔnɯ ooʇ ǝʌɐɥ uɐɔ noʎ buıɥʇǝɯos s,ʇı ʞuıɥʇ ı
[22:06] <maps|wrk> lol
[22:06] <maps|wrk> its a decent watch imo daftykins
[22:07] <daftykins> penguin42: ah, like all good things in life
[22:10] <daftykins> ooh just broke 9 seeded on stephenson's rocket
[22:14] <maps|wrk> =]
[22:14] <diddledan> I'm on 5.73 and 7.17
[22:15] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/gallery/I02PB
[22:15] <daftykins> i was looking at this last night
[22:15] <daftykins> can barely notice a difference 0o
[22:23] <maps|wrk> thats pretty cool
[22:23] <maps|wrk> will have a proper look in a bit
[22:23] <maps|wrk> :)
[22:33] <daftykins> might get the film it references
[22:41] <maps|wrk> so what did you decide to watch daftykins
[22:42] <daftykins> i've got a bit of an anime on right now
[22:42] <daftykins> a Ghost in the Shell film
[22:42] <maps|wrk> ah
[22:42] <daftykins> undecided if i'll stick at it though
[22:53] <ali1234> hmm.... bootstrap is really good
[22:53] <ali1234> this might save me from the horrors of joomla
[23:46] <maps|wrk> yo
[23:51] <daftykins> wb
[23:52] <maps|wrk> :)
[23:55] <maps|wrk> ever used http://www.centerim.org/index.php/Main_Page ?