[00:00] <kiezr> tails
[00:00] <kiezr> oops
[00:01] <notlistening> LVM quesition. I have two drives setup as part of the same pc but the underlying devices allocation is linear. However the PV 's as still filled up equally across the drvices as the physical drvies fill up
[00:01] <afief> Jordan_U: Installation finished, no errors detected
[00:01] <notlistening> any ideas how i set this up?
[00:01] <notlistening> *same pv
[00:02] <kiezr>  sacrelicious, unetbootin forsure then
[00:02] <sacrelicious> kiezr, thanks, trying it now
[00:03] <JFranks> command to reconnect after editing interfaces file?
[00:03] <JFranks> I guess I could reboot?
[00:03] <kiezr>  sacrelicious, wouldnt hurt to make sure all partitions on your USB are wiped.
[00:04] <bill337152> how do you check the the amd video driver type
[00:04] <sacrelicious> kiezr, Beldar booya. Unetbootin worked, awesome. thanks guys!!
[00:04] <rcampbel3> jfranks: ifconfig ?
[00:04] <JFranks> rcampbel3: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:05] <afief> Jordan_U: Rebooted, still no grub :(
[00:06] <notlistening> bill337152, lspci | grep AMD
[00:07] <JFranks> have a good weekend peeps
[00:07] <Includes08> Everytime i try to manually assign an ip to ubuntu it accepts it and then it throws itself out of the network
[00:07] <Includes08> any ideas?
[00:09] <kiezr> Includes08, how are you asigning it?
[00:09] <qset> I'm running vbox with ubuntu x86_64, what command would I use to get ia32 libc so I can use gcc -m32?
[00:09] <Includes08> just manually
[00:09] <Includes08> and it should work
[00:10] <Bashing-om> afief: Pops to mind to check !, what drive is set to boot from in Bios ?
[00:11] <Includes08> atleast windows and centos and such work
[00:11] <qset> I did sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:11] <qset> to no avail :(
[00:11] <Includes08> but ubuntu doesn't want his ip
[00:11] <Includes08> only auto assign
[00:12] <qset> I was hoping for some apt-get so I wouldn't have to manually figure out which libs I would need to put in usr/lib/
[00:20] <chiefbrain> is it possible to install ubuntu on a 4gb usb stick?
[00:20] <z1haze> yea
[00:20] <chiefbrain> ubuntu 13.10 tells me, i need at least 5,9 gb
[00:20] <chiefbrain> so the installer dont let me install it
[00:21] <z1haze> ive done it with 12.04
[00:21] <chiefbrain> so you jsut installed ubuntu with the installer to a usb drive?
[00:21] <exstasea> chiefbrain: there is a minimal / network installer
[00:22] <chiefbrain> exstasea: i read about that. but the question remains: is 4gb enough to have system with a firefox, thunderbird which can be held up to date?
[00:23] <chiefbrain> exstasea: there is a reason for this 5,9 gb limit
[00:24] <colacola> chiefbrain, yes
[00:24] <colacola> i have 2gb
[00:24] <exstasea> chiefbrain: i was going to say in theory it needs 2.6 gig but stuff like browser cache, saved emaiks etc can grow
[00:24] <chiefbrain> cocoknife: 13.10?
[00:24] <chiefbrain> sry, colacola 13.10.
[00:24] <chiefbrain> ?
[00:24] <colacola> yes
[00:24] <chiefbrain> thx
[00:25] <colacola> and it work fine ok maybe a little lag on youtube
[00:25] <colacola> but that's all
[00:25] <chiefbrain> colacola: depends on the stick propaply
[00:25] <colacola> yeah
[00:25] <exstasea> well usb stick is reasonably cheap now, you'd have to decide if your time is worth the cost of a larger stick
[00:26] <chiefbrain> colacola: i read something about changing tmp to a ramdisk, did you do this?
[00:26] <colacola> chiefbrain, no
[00:26] <colacola> chiefbrain, however i forget to mention something
[00:27] <colacola> i use awesome wm as my window manager
[00:27] <colacola> this is very light
[00:27] <colacola> compared to desktop like gnome and kde
[00:27] <chiefbrain> awesome :)
[00:30] <dog-food> WHAT IS THE UBUNTU 14.04 CHANNEL????
[00:33] <sacrelicious> so unetbootin apparently doesnt work with tails at all, any idea on any other good live usb creator programs?
[00:34] <m1dnight> anyone alive here?
[00:34] <m1dnight> i'm struggling with a bash script
[00:34] <m1dnight> can't get it to work
[00:34] <kiezr> Only the dead live here
[00:34] <m1dnight> well
[00:34] <m1dnight> i heard they write a mean bash script
[00:34] <m1dnight> so i'm in luck ;p
[00:34] <rww> sacrelicious: which operating system are you creating the USB on?
[00:34] <kiezr> Thats true
[00:35] <kiezr> Zobie++
[00:35] <m1dnight> anyway
[00:35] <m1dnight> this is the one: http://pastebin.com/puFBb8Gx
[00:35] <m1dnight> It executes the outer for loop only once
[00:35] <rww> sacrelicious: (also, this isn't the TAILS support channel, #tails on OFTC network is)
[00:35] <m1dnight> should I put braces or somthing?
[00:38] <rypervenche> midnight_: Works fine for me.
[00:38] <m1dnight> huh
[00:39] <m1dnight> (sorry for paste)
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 1 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 2 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 3 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 4 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> thats what I get
[00:39] <rypervenche> midnight_: Ah, sorry I misread.
[00:39] <trism> m1dnight: you never reset USERS so that's all you will get
[00:39] <m1dnight> RIIIIIGHT :)
[00:39] <m1dnight> haha obvious mistake
[00:40] <m1dnight> thanks though guys
[00:40] <Izaya> good evening
[00:40] <Izaya> anyone know of any Linux multi-desktop support apps for a gnubie?
[00:40] <rypervenche> m1dnight: It does work.
[00:41] <rypervenche> m1dnight: Ah, he beat me to it. YOu've got it.
[00:42] <m1dnight> yeah idd :) i pulled into the scope of theforloop, no reset needed ^
[00:42] <m1dnight> thanks a bunch guys
[00:42] <Izaya> Anyone?
[00:43] <m1dnight> I don't really understand what you mean (nor am I an expert)
[00:43] <Izaya> well, for example
[00:43] <Izaya> in Windows there is software called "Desktops"
[00:43] <Izaya> you can hit like alt 1, 2, 3, 4 and view different desktops
[00:43] <m1dnight> aaaah
[00:43] <Izaya> I've heard it referred to as "tiles" in Linux
[00:43] <m1dnight> isn't that default in most distro's?
[00:43] <m1dnight> what distro are you using?
[00:43] <Izaya> it probably is, but I don't know how to access it
[00:44] <Izaya> Ubuntu 13.10
[00:44] <m1dnight> i think I found it
[00:44] <m1dnight> go to All Settings > Appearance > Behavior
[00:44] <m1dnight> "enable workspaces"
[00:44] <Izaya> ah
[00:44] <m1dnight> that's the one :)
[00:44] <Izaya> how does one switch between workspaces :-D
[00:44] <m1dnight> let me see
[00:45] <usr13> m1dnight: Yea, and then you get a Workspace Switcher
[00:45] <m1dnight> ctrl+alt+arrows
[00:45] <Izaya> yay
[00:45] <Izaya> is there a way to switch the hotkeys?
[00:45] <m1dnight> hha
[00:45] <m1dnight> :p
[00:45] <m1dnight> let me see
[00:45] <m1dnight> i think I remember
[00:46] <m1dnight> All settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Navigation > Switch to workspace N
[00:47] <Izaya> excelent
[00:47] <Izaya> thank you
[00:47] <Izaya> WOW theres alot
[00:47] <Izaya> 12 workspaces huh?
[00:47] <m1dnight> so it appears :p
[00:47] <m1dnight> you have 12 terminals as well
[00:47] <m1dnight> might be a coincidence
[00:48] <m1dnight> if you need more than 12, you're doing something wrong :p
[00:48] <Izaya> lol
[00:48] <Izaya> true enough
[00:48] <Izaya> convenient that I have a Razer Naga mouse
[00:48] <Izaya> odd
[00:48] <Izaya> doing ctrl +1 though doesn't switch the workspace for me
[00:49] <Izaya> hm
[00:49] <Izaya> doesn't seem to be letting me switch
[00:50] <anonymous_Hacker> Hi
[00:50] <anonymous_Hacker> Hello ?
[00:51] <Izaya> HI
[00:51] <anonymous_Hacker> How are you >]?
[00:52] <daftykins> anonymous_Hacker: do you have a support question?
[00:52] <anonymous_Hacker> Any hackers willing to participate in a DDOS atack speak nw
[00:52] <daftykins> lol.
[00:52] <Izaya> lol.
[00:53] <Izaya> okay so switching between workspaces seems to be giving me a hard time
[00:53] <m1dnight> the fact you are asking in #ubuntu tells me you're kinda new to the whole thing :p
[00:53] <Izaya> do I have to be in any particular "state" to do it?
[00:53] <daftykins> anonymous_Hacker: you're not very anonymous coming from that BT broadband connection of yours
[00:53] <m1dnight> no Izaya
[00:53] <m1dnight> do the regular shortcuts work?
[00:53] <Izaya> they don't seem to now for some reason...
[00:53] <m1dnight> hmmm
[00:53] <eliterecon> Can someone help me with installing adobe flash player on ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS?
[00:53] <m1dnight> ugh, i hate that
[00:53] <m1dnight> i just use chromium xD
[00:53] <Izaya> lol
[00:54] <eliterecon> xD
[00:54] <Izaya> it's weird because it worked just a moment ago
[00:54] <Izaya> maybe it's because I'm clicked into a window incorrectly?
[00:55] <Izaya> here we go
[00:55] <m1dnight> Izaya: if you are *sure* the shortcuts are correct
[00:55] <Izaya> enable workspaces
[00:55] <m1dnight> log in and out?
[00:55] <Izaya> lololol
[00:55] <m1dnight> just guessing
[00:55] <daftykins> eliterecon: did you install the installer package?
[00:55] <Izaya> got it to work
[00:55] <Izaya> woot woot
[00:56] <eliterecon> daftykins: what is that?
[00:56] <daftykins> eliterecon: the flash player installer package...
[00:56] <daftykins> !flash | eliterecon
[00:57] <eliterecon> i tried to do the sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted and it said that it couldn't because another program was possibly using the E: drive currently
[00:57] <Izaya> so I seem to be limited to 4 workspaces
[00:57] <Izaya> I should be able to get more, yes?
[00:58] <TeHHerzog> I have a question about Ubuntu 10.04. The Vino VNC program that comes as the default VNC progam Does it keep track of Logged connections
[00:59] <eliterecon> whenever i try to get something with the ubuntu software center though it says waiting forever although and has above it searching: applying changes
[00:59] <Izaya> odd eliterecon
[01:00] <Izaya> never had that problem mysel;f
[01:00] <Izaya> myself*
[01:00] <eliterecon> so now its doing that when i try to get the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:02] <Beldar> eliterecon, If you want to exactly what's going on use apt-get
[01:02] <Beldar> see*
[01:04] <eliterecon> this is what i get when i do that E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:04] <Izaya> speaking of software
[01:04] <Izaya> I have a program for Windows called "KeyScrambler" that works with Chrome/Browsers etc
[01:04] <Izaya> I wonder if that exists for Ubuntu
[01:05] <awesomess3> eliterecon, do you have synaptic open?
[01:05] <eliterecon> not that i know of
[01:05] <Beldar> eliterecon, You stopped a upgrade during it causing the var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:05] <awesomess3> eliterecon, apt-get -f install
[01:05] <eliterecon> ok how do i fix that
[01:05] <awesomess3> eliterecon, maybe try that?
[01:07] <Beldar> eliterecon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/unable-to-lock-the-administration-directory-var-lib-dpkg-is-another-process
[01:11] <eliterecon> beldar: whenever i try to restart my ubuntu it says that the signal has been sent and that the box near it( [OK] ) but then that switches to [FAIL] and it just never restarts the same thing happens with shutdowns
[01:12] <Beldar> eliterecon, Not sure what that has to do with our conversation.
[01:12] <eliterecon> the link u sent me told me to try restarting the computer but i cant do that for some reason
[01:12] <Beldar> eliterecon, severl options including a rm of the locked.
[01:12] <eliterecon> that is probably why it wont run because it might have tried to install updates and then gotten stuck like that
[01:13] <eliterecon> beldar: im going to try and restart ill come back then
[01:14] <OerHeks> !aptlock
[01:14] <eliterecon> or ill try that
[01:16] <eliterecon> now it says dkms: install completed
[01:17] <eliterecon> when I look at the ubuntu software center on the ubuntu-restricted-extras now it says waiting for dpkg to exit
[01:18] <netameta> if i am making a http.request to someplace that wont respond could that case server or 504 error ?
[01:18] <OerHeks> ehm, when you perform this action, you need to have terminal open only, no synaptic or softwarecenter
[01:20] <eliterecon> what is synaptic?
[01:20] <Izaya> any recommendations on reading for command line learning?
[01:22] <ax562> How do I initialize xfce4 or start a xfce4 session in ubuntu 12.04LTS after I have installed xfce4 4.10?
[01:23] <ax562> I installed and rebooted but nothing changed..still running gnome
[01:24] <eliterecon> after running sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » it says DKMS: install completed it just does nothing and when i try to close the terminal it says that a process is still running what do i do about that?
[01:27] <Izaya> Question, how does one tweak the # of available workspaces?
[01:29] <xoexoe> sorry, I was just here, and my problem was solved with deleting partitions. but when I wanted to create new partitions, I have the same problem now, as I had at the beginning (the reason why I deleted the partitions)..the problem is I cant create further partitions under an extended partition.
[01:33] <xoexoe> in short, when I want to create a sub-partition under an extended one, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7133723/  Jordan_U appears not here now, he'd helped me with some commands earlier, but I am not experienced with these, so I first consulted you again
[01:33] <xoexoe> commands like fdisk or fixparts
[01:38] <daftykins> xoexoe: you're still on this? can you not just nuke the disk?
[01:38] <eliterecon> I cant get a process to end on ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS any help?
[01:38] <daftykins> eliterecon: even with kill -9 ?
[01:38] <eliterecon> hadn't tried that how do i do that one?
[01:40] <beerninja> anyone in here familiar with xorg.conf files?  I wrote a new one for my monitors which ubuntu can't detect the EDID for and this one ubuntu tutorial says to add a virtual subsection to my xorg.conf....not sure where to write it though.  I'm a noob :(
[01:41] <xoexoe> daftykins, I solved it right now. for your question, I'd already nuked it, and the problem recurred while recreating partition. but it recurred another machine, not on the one where I deleted the partitions with the help of Jordan. when I connected the disk to the latter machine again, the problem was not there.
[01:42] <xoexoe> I wonder whatever might be wrong with partition tables of the same disk on different machines,
[01:42] <daftykins> beerninja: 'where' ? as in placement within the file?
[01:43] <beerninja> daftykins: yes I'm not sure if I have to type a new section or if it has to be a subsection etc
[01:43] <beerninja> I'm looking at this tutorial here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_resolution_changes_in_xorg.conf_--_resolution_lower_than_expected
[01:43] <daftykins> xoexoe: are you using this disk as internal on one but external via some form of adapter on the other?
[01:44] <xoexoe> daftykins, no, I use it as external on both.
[01:44] <daftykins> xoexoe: via some form of USB controller?
[01:44] <beerninja> daftykins: right now my xorg.conf is totally empty except for two sections I wrote about my monitor placement..like "primary" "true" and stuff
[01:45] <xoexoe> daftykins, what is it? :)
[01:45] <daftykins> what's with the EDID issues? is the monitor a little funky or is it using a non-digital interface?
[01:45] <beerninja> non digital.  old CRTs
[01:45] <xoexoe> so I'm probably not using it :)
[01:45] <daftykins> xoexoe: is it a 3.5" HDD in a USB caddy?
[01:46] <eliterecon> i cannot get searching applying changes to end in ubuntu software center
[01:46] <eliterecon> daftykins: do you know how to end that?
[01:46] <OerHeks> bug 1
[01:48] <daftykins> eliterecon: just kill software centre and try again *shrug*
[01:48] <xoexoe> daftykins, it is a 320GB disk. sorry, dont know where to check 3.5" or what USB caddy is.
[01:49] <daftykins> xoexoe: ok, you certainly won't understand my main idea then ;) it's possible the disk is being addressed differently by each, is what i would've said
[01:49] <eliterecon> daftykins: how would u suggest going about killing it?
[01:50] <daftykins> eliterecon: if you want to go the GUI way, run the system monitor or whatever the task manager equivalent is today - or open a terminal and kill its' PID
[01:50] <daftykins> so, the standard ways
[01:51] <xoexoe> daftykins, it seems so. I just thought Jordan's commands earlier have corrected the case for one of the computers, as a result of which partition tables were altered, as the message said
[01:52] <beerninja> I tried typing a "Display" section instead of a subsection in my xorg.conf but then X wouldn't start.  Anyone know where I could add a Virtual command under a "Display" subsection?
[01:53] <eliterecon> tried couldn't find it to kill it
[01:54] <c|oneman> anyone use nomachine w/ sound?
[01:54] <daftykins> beerninja: i'm puzzled, your link clearly shows it underneath screen
[01:54] <daftykins> eliterecon: pastebin 'ps -ef'
[01:55] <beerninja> daftykins: right but in the link I'm not sure what to type in those quotes
[01:55] <beerninja> like it just says "configured monitor" and "configured video device"
[01:56] <eliterecon> http://pastebin.com/ujMnFYxW there it is daftykins
[01:57] <daftykins> beerninja: hmm sorry i don't have enough experience with that approach - is it possible there's a better way though? what card and driver is this with? could the driver be causing additional issues?
[01:58] <beerninja> old radeon 9800XT (aka R360).  radeon open source driver.  No problems with the driver that I am aware of but inxi -Gx reports that the "ati" driver is also installed alongside it which doesn't make any sense to me.
[01:58] <beerninja> Just the missing EDID from my monitors which has me stuck at 1024x768
[01:58] <daftykins> eliterecon: do you know what you were installing at the time?
[01:59] <eliterecon> i think it might have been updates and it was restarting but the restart failed
[01:59] <eliterecon> i had to shut it down manually
[01:59] <daftykins> beerninja: hrmm i could only suggest trying to copy in from templates online if you find anything relevant, but multi-monitor with that could get pretty guessy :(
[02:00] <daftykins> eliterecon: and on booting back up you ran software centre but it's getting stuck?
[02:00] <beerninja> ok thanks for your help though :)
[02:00] <daftykins> no probs
[02:00] <daftykins> back in the day i remember using hardcoded modelines
[02:00] <daftykins> but that'd still need a display/screen section
[02:01] <eliterecon> it wont shut down properly at all now and the software centre when opened always has searching applying changes
[02:02] <eliterecon> daftykins: should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[02:02] <daftykins> pastebin 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:02] <daftykins> that might give some clue as to whether it's stuck somewhere
[02:02] <daftykins> although i guess software centre might be locking you out from doing anything software related? D:
[02:03] <eliterecon> http://pastebin.com/GKVndBbb
[02:04] <eliterecon> software centre appears to be locking me out of doing anything with my hdd changing programs and suck
[02:04] <eliterecon> such*
[02:04] <Izaya> if I tried using compizconfig
[02:04] <Izaya> how do I reset to default Unity
[02:04] <Izaya> because it doesn't even give me the ability to move around windows now
[02:05]  * eliterecon wishes that this process was faster xD
[02:10] <Beldar> Izaya, What ubuntu release?
[02:10] <daftykins> eliterecon: still happens if you reboot and don't run software centre first?
[02:11] <eliterecon> yop i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu :/
[02:12] <daftykins> eliterecon: probably wouldn't be hard to work out how to unlock dpkg and then just sort it out
[02:12] <daftykins> eliterecon: guess it depends how customised your current install is
[02:12] <eliterecon> its very new i dont have anything really on it yet
[02:12] <eliterecon> i think ill just wipe it and start a fresh
[02:13] <eliterecon> thx for the help though
[02:16] <thoonai> heyho, I want to set up a traffic tracker which counts the traffic for every IP its communicating with
[02:16] <thoonai> any hints for good tools?
[02:21] <viej> thank you for your help, daftykins!
[02:22] <klone> knock knock
[02:22] <klone> exi
[02:22] <klone> exit
[02:22] <bsmith093> cant eject slot loading dvd drive Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:23] <xoexoe> thank you for your help, daftykins!
[02:24] <daftykins> D:
[02:28] <thoonai> nevermind, got my idea
[02:28] <texla> There is a program for setting advance setting..forgot the name anyone help
[02:34] <Joel>  what/where does udisks-daemon get started?
[03:00] <EndymionM> Not to sound dumb here, but is this the appropriate room to ask questions about Transmission?
[03:00] <awesomess3> sure
[03:00] <sledge> hey guys.. something is wrong with my muon software updater
[03:01] <daftykins> what's one of those then?
[03:01] <daftykins> EndymionM: no, this is ubuntu support
[03:01] <rww> daftykins: KDE software thing
[03:01] <rayq> EndymionM:  There is #transmission room on freenode
[03:02] <EndymionM> daftykins: Thanks.  That's why I asked - I didn't know if it was just part of the OS.  'Bye!
[03:11] <EndymionM> Oh, since people were here and active a minute ago.  I realized, I have two questions.  1: I saw that on Unity 2d, I can shrink the launcher.  What are the minimum dimensions?  2: I know that there used to be a UNIX equivalent to DOS/Win .bat files.  What's the extension, and do I need to worry about formatting the text file differently?
[03:18] <seednode> EndymionM, it's .sh
[03:18] <seednode> Stands for shell files, and it should be formatted with "#!/bin/bash" on the first line, and one command per line afterwards
[03:19] <Guest33871> How can I keep backup of all software i installed ?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !backup|Guest33871,
[03:20] <jesoners> DO THEY HAVE A SKYPE COMPATIBLE program for trisquel6
[03:21] <kostkon> jesoners, triquel6? what is that?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> jesoners, not supported here.  ask trisquel for support
[03:21] <Guest33871> IS there latest version of skype?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !skype
[03:22] <jesoners> ok yhanks. and trisqul is a lunix distr (Liteweight)
[03:27] <melray> issuing sudo mount -t vmhgfs .host:/ /mnt/hgfs fails..even if I add the name of the share in vmware is there something else I might need to install? open-vm-tools is installed
[03:29] <stealth-> hi everyone! I have a RAID array of external USB harddrives on a ubuntu machine, and I believe that MDRAID is incorrectly marking a disk as "failed" because the read timeout is too low for the USB drives to spin back up in time. Does anyone know how to raise this timeout value?
[03:33] <EndymionM> seednode: Thank you.
[03:34] <seednode> If you have indepth questions on bash scripting, I might be able to help; I can't sleep any ways
[03:40] <EndymionM> seednode: Well, aside from the foldering structure being completely nonsensical (I grew up on DOS and my other machines are XP & 7), is the basic concept the same?
[03:41] <seednode> Well, I take offense to your calling the directory structure nonsensical, as I was raised using different *nix variants, but
[03:41] <seednode> The concepts of appending, overwriting, redirecting, and piping are very similar, yes
[03:43] <EndymionM> seednode: Then that's really all I need.  And frankly, I prefer named drives, and the way I've always seen a machine makes sense to me.  A: is floppy1, B: is floppy2, C: is the master HD, D: is either slave or CD, and then outwards from there as you have ports or logical drives.  I really can't make head or tail of the Linux foldering.
[03:44] <seednode> Well, if you want to take it up in pm, I can try to explain the structure and why it was chosen :D
[03:45] <rcampbel3> EndymionM: it goes way back farther than Window's existence. Regardless of wheter you like it, it won. It's the basis for UNIX, Linux, OSX, Andriod.
[03:46] <daftykins> it was a total mystery to me until i discovered any partition can be mounted to any path
[03:46] <daftykins> lol won.
[03:46] <EndymionM> ... Really, it won.  I'd say Windows' market-share percentages disagree.
[03:46] <rcampbel3> true: MSFT has about 20% market share in mobile and dropping.
[03:46] <stealth-> EndymionM: As someone who grew up with Linux systems, I can say when I had to use Windows computers I found the random lettering for drives immensely confusing xD
[03:47] <EndymionM> It's not random at all!
[03:47] <seednode> stealth-, and how about SysWOW64 versus system32 :P
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:48] <rcampbel3> Don't get me started on Windows. It has NO package management system. It just keeps all old cr@p in the OS just in case forever, and if you don't like it... well reinstall.
[03:48] <daftykins> cfhowlett: really, i see you enforce rules more than i see you contribute.
[03:49] <daftykins> but yep the mob are going very Windowsy and that's no good
[03:49] <stealth-> Fair enough. :P
[03:49] <cfhowlett> daftykins, 1.  I don't "enforce" the rules  2. thank you for sharing
[03:49] <daftykins> people - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you must gas on about Windows
[03:49] <EndymionM> rcampbel3: That's what the Cleanup utility is for, actually.
[03:49] <daftykins> cfhowlett: it's a free service! :)
[03:51] <pack^> I've never believed in "free".
[03:51] <rcampbel3> Windows sxs folder is an abomination of junk that exists because windows doens't have a sane package, dependency managemeny system like apt
[03:52] <daftykins> pack^: i need about $3.50 then
[03:52] <daftykins> rcampbel3: what. did. we just. say?
[03:52] <daftykins> take it elsewhere please.
[03:52] <pack^> daftykins: You did nothing for me. I don't owe you.
[03:52] <daftykins> it was a joke reference you didn't get :(
[03:52] <daftykins> now you're being all srs bsns
[03:53] <pack^> sorry
[03:53] <daftykins> ho-hum, bed time
[03:54] <seednode> I just mention windows as a joke and channel collapses ;
[03:56] <Guest33871> Is it ok to update ubuntu from 12.04 to 13.10?
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Guest33871, yes.  but consider that 14.04 LTS comes out next month ...
[03:57] <EndymionM> Guest33871: No, of course not.  That's why they released it, to tell you that you, personally, are the only person on Earth who cannot use it :-P
[03:58] <Guest33871> Is it ok if to update from 12.04 to 14.04  ?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Guest33871, yes.  direct upgrade from LTS to LTS versions
[03:58] <rcampbel3> Guest33871: yes and yes. It's supported to upgrade from LTS to LTS, otherwise, you need to do a lot up upgrades
[03:59] <Guest33871> When will 14.04 LTS release?
[03:59] <rcampbel3> Guest33871: end of April
[04:02] <Guest33871> How to install microsoft office in ubuntu?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Guest33871, use libreoffice.
[04:03] <rcampbel3> Guest33871: you don't. Use Libreofice... or google docs . Wine can run some versions of Microsoft Office pretty well, but... libreoffice is pretty good now
[04:04] <cfhowlett> rcampbel3, kingsoft office is the China made clone of microsoft office - linux version is available.
[04:04] <Guest33871> how to use xchat? this is first time i don't know
[04:04] <cfhowlett> !xchat|Guest33871,
[04:04] <pack^> I doubt he knows how to add new packages.
[04:05] <numbers> my wifi keeps disconnecting and reconnecting again, im using 12.04 lts, any suggestions?
[04:06] <rcampbel3> numbers: move your laptop away from the microwave ;)
[04:06] <Guest33871> Ubuntu software center is too slow when downloading any software. Is there any better way to download software in fast way?
[04:07] <pack^> try synaptic
[04:07] <numbers> rcampbel3, there is no high frequency radiation nearby
[04:08] <rcampbel3> numbers: actually, my suggestions are: 1) use wifianalyzer on andriod to see if your wireless access pooint should be on channel 1, 6, or 11 based on your local wireless access points, 2 consider upgrading your wireless router to dd-wrt and turn up the power on the transmitter, 3) wired ethernet is always best, 4) make sure your phones and anything else like baby monitors don't interfere
[04:09] <numbers> rcampbel3, actually hold on let me connect to my android hotspot that could be a pretty good idea
[04:10] <dexter_> Hello
[04:11] <llr_> @guest33871 the command line is the fastest way for me
[04:11] <dexter_> 1080p vidoes are getting played in smplayer but i cant seek/forward. if i do so the video is starting from first!..
[04:12] <rcampbel3> dexter_ : could be the container format and how the videos were transcoded - occasionally a nightly build of handbrake produces files for me that don't seek right. Re-rip.
[04:13] <dexter_> but seeking is working in manjaro and windows :/
[04:14] <dexter_> and i cant play those videos in vlc player in ubuntu
[04:14] <rcampbel3> dexter_ then don't use smplayer or file a bug report with a reproducible test case for them
[04:15] <dexter_> okay :/ is there any better player for ubuntu?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> dexter_, try vlcplayer?
[04:18] <dexter_> its not played in vlc player
[04:18] <dexter_> neither in movie player. the video is getting played only in smplayer and  i cant forward though :/
[04:18] <rcampbel3> ? vlc plays everything
[04:19] <JCM83> Ubuntu natively offers "Soundcloud" links. What's the connection between Soundcloud and Ubuntu? Anyone aware of the history behind this?
[04:20] <cfhowlett> JCM83, soundcloud would love to get a native link on every device.  someone made a deal.  nothing suspicious there
[04:21] <JCM83> cfhowlett yes obviously, what I'm saying is, is Soundcloud considered like a supporter of the open source community or something? Do you know?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> JCM83, no idea
[04:21] <rcampbel3> probably more like soundcloud has an open API
[04:22] <JCM83> rcampbel3 what's that mean?
[04:23] <rcampbel3> JCM83 - open API means that anyone who wants to support their app can find the details to write code that uses it. Closed API means... it's all secret and unless you sign an NDA and get permission, you have no clue how to integrate service1 with service2
[04:23] <rcampbel3> so... you'll find support for lots of things with open APIs in opensource
[04:24] <rcampbel3> and very little support for things with closed APIs
[04:24] <JCM83> Nice.
[04:24] <JCM83> Thanks rcampbel3
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !cookie|rcampbel3, great explanation!
[04:26] <chicognu> how to set lsde as default window menager ?
[04:26] <chicognu> lxde
[04:26] <cfhowlett> chicognu, logout.  choose lxde session.  login.  it'll stay at lxde until you change it
[04:27] <chicognu> cfhowlett, will reboot for test
[04:28]  * rcampbel3 just realized my ubuntu system doesn't even HAVE an .xinitrc file anywhere on it anymore - good riddance, I guess.
[04:29] <expwn> Hey guys! I've been trying to get ubuntu on this pc but whenever I boot up my USB I get a loading screen, followed by a black screen. what do?
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|expwn,
[04:30] <rcampbel3> expwn - probably a video card / video card driver issue. If you know your way around the commandline, try installing the server version. Otherwise, try a new video card, or a differeny machine
[04:31] <chicognu> works cfhowlett
[04:31] <cfhowlett> chicognu, excellent!
[04:31] <chicognu> but it is not the default window meager
[04:31] <cfhowlett> chicognu, ???
[04:31] <Akayllin> has anyone else had an issue on a laptop where your computer continually suspends itself and then turns back on over and over when your battery gets to the critical point?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> chicognu, logout and login = should stay with lxde
[04:32] <chicognu> cfhowlett, when i reboot, at the login screen, the lxde is pre-selected but not the default
[04:32] <cfhowlett> chicognu, preselected = default
[04:33] <chicognu> hum wait
[04:34] <rcampbel3> have script run your windowmanager with "--replace" as one of the startup jobs.
[04:34] <chicognu> yes it is the default, tks cfhowlett
[04:34] <chicognu> :D
[04:34] <cfhowlett> chicognu, have fun, be safe
[04:35] <chicognu> :D
[04:35] <fontain> HAHAHAHAHA
[04:39] <rcampbel3> who's running 14.04 on their main box?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !trusty|rcampbel3,
[04:39] <seednode> #ubuntu+1 for support for that
[04:42] <rcampbel3> how about this.. what's the first release of Ubuntu you used? I ran warty warthog :)
[04:46] <archana> Hi. If I use downthemall addon behind a proxy, will downthemall still direct downloads through the proxy and not by my ip? I didn't find proxy preferences in downthemall's preferences
[04:48] <fly1> hello
[04:48] <JCM83> hello
[04:51] <canis_> how to install .exe file in ubuntu?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> canis_, what are you trying to install?
[04:53] <canis_> I am trying to install latest version of skype.
[04:53] <canis_> i have latest version of skype in my computer
[04:53] <cfhowlett> canis_, then use the linux version NOT the windows version
[04:53] <canis_> so i  wanted to install it
[04:53] <EndymionM> canis_: Give up and go back to Windows.
[04:53] <canis_> but it is in .exe file
[04:53] <rcampbel3> canis_ : short answer is: you don't. It's a windows file. Long answer is: if you absolutely have no other choice, install wine, and run exe as "wine file.exe"
[04:53] <canis_> Ubuntu didn't support .exe file
[04:54] <cfhowlett> canis_, go to skype.com   downloads page and get the linux package
[04:54] <pack^> but ubuntu DOES support skype. Just not with the .exe
[04:54] <rcampbel3> canis: Ubuntu runs Linux programs. Would you expect your xbox one to play ps4 games?
[04:55] <EndymionM> rcampbel3: I know a guy who had a modded console like that.
[04:56] <canis_> ok
[04:56] <canis_> i will install it
[04:58] <rcampbel3> canis_ install the linux version of skype - sudo apt-get install skype
[04:59] <canis_> ok thank you for helping me
[04:59] <awesome-o3000> anyone mind helping an xubuntu user the other channel is dead im having a sound issue
[04:59] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000 - state your issue
[05:00] <awesome-o3000> my sound card does not show up at all, alsamixer wont work and pulse displays a dummycard
[05:01] <rcampbel3> if you boot an ubuntu 13.10 live cd, does sound work?
[05:01] <awesome-o3000> i didnt check i installed off of the flash drive should i reboot onto the drive and see?
[05:01] <canis_> sometimes software i am using get freezes. what do to in that condition?
[05:01] <EndymionM> Could it be a driver issue?
[05:02] <awesome-o3000> well running sudo aplay -l shows no soundcard
[05:02] <cfhowlett> canis_, start a terminal.  run ps -x     look for your app.  run kill -9 app ID number
[05:02] <seednode> canis_, well, you can use xkill or killall [program name], or kill -9
[05:02] <seednode> Or magic sysrq, if you're feeling up to it
[05:04] <awesome-o3000> and running alsamixer as a command turns up saying there is no file or directory when i can physically navigate to it and see it
[05:06] <vexati0n> hey some IP routing help please - if i have a server with 2 nics, both behind 2 different firewalls, with NAT rules exposing ports through each, how do i make sure that internet requests hitting eth0 are responded to by eth0, and not by eth1 ?
[05:06] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000: dmesg |grep sound
[05:06] <seednode> vexati0n, I'm honestly not sure if that's a question for ##networking or here
[05:07] <awesome-o3000> no output
[05:07] <rcampbel3> vexati0n: do both nics offer a route out to the internet?
[05:07] <vexati0n> rcampbel3: yes
[05:07] <vexati0n> separate public IPs
[05:07] <vexati0n> but it's ignoring traffic on the interface that doesn't have the metric 1 default gw
[05:07] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000: then you have a problem... there's no sound card detected at boot, or your dmesg file contents got overwritten
[05:07] <vexati0n> (or trying to reply through the wrong gateway)
[05:08] <canis_> ok
[05:08] <awesome-o3000> rcampbel3 is this fixable or am i looking at a redownload and install
[05:08] <canis_> i am one problem when i open facebook it won't load properly
[05:09] <canis_> what can i do?
[05:09] <dupingping> Hi
[05:09] <dupingping> oma is what file format?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:10] <awesome-o3000> rcampbel3 i have already checked bios and dont have the option to disable the soundcard, windows did see the soundcard
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> i cant get my wifi working on a medion akoya netbook with 12.04 chipset ralink rt2790, bios is set to wifi 'last state' led light is on, but wifi icon shows wifi disabled in grey
[05:11] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000 - find out the name of the soundcard in windows, search to see if it's supported under Linux. Just because something works under windows does not imply that there's a linux device driver for it
[05:12] <awesome-o3000> got yah
[05:13] <rcampbel3> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198018
[05:13] <seednode> lotuspsychje, when you run "lspci | grep Network", what's the model it lists
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> seednode: its a ralink rt2790 wifi chipset
[05:14] <seednode> Is that the model it lists?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> seednode: same as in rcampbel3 link
[05:15] <seednode> Well then, according to the link, try "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off"
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> ill try that later
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> rcampbel3: tnx or the interesting link!
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> hey I am trying to compile unity 8, getting this error bzr branch lp:unity8 ~/unity8/trunk
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> err
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> sec
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:64 (message):
[05:16] <akiva-mobile>   Could not determine plugin installation dir.
[05:17] <rcampbel3> akiva-mobile - are you skilled enough to be building unity 8 from source? Do you have all the dependencies? Have you built unity from source before?
[05:17] <akiva-mobile> rcampbel3, I am a programmer, just don't have much experience with cmake
[05:18] <akiva-mobile> rcampbel3, And yes, I have all the dependencies
[05:18] <rcampbel3> akiva-mobile: probably better question fro #ubuntu+1 https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/
[05:18] <akiva-mobile> rcampbel3, worth a shot
[05:18] <akiva-mobile> thanks
[05:24] <iamstupid> join #truthaboutwomen to have an honest discussion about women and we try to figure them out
[05:26] <RandyM> hwre can i get help with Kali Linux
[05:26] <akiva-mobile> #kali ?
[05:26] <akiva-mobile> !kali
[05:26] <akiva-mobile> #kali-linux
[05:27] <akiva-mobile> RandyM, ^
[05:27] <RandyM> sorry if i typoed phone rang
[05:28] <RandyM> i am havin a issue with ICE autholrity.. i have built LFS and im dumb founded
[05:29] <Malayke> anybody there?
[05:29] <RandyM> we are here
[05:30] <Malayke> I have a question, Can I ask you?
[05:30] <RandyM> ask as long as it aint ICE authority pertaining to users
[05:32] <Malayke> yesterday I intall ubuntu 13.10 to my laptop ,and I install some application by apt-get.
[05:32] <basketball> how do i change my dns
[05:33] <Malayke> but this application always start when system startup
[05:33] <RandyM> what app is it
[05:34] <Malayke> How to stop software start-up?
[05:34] <RandyM> edit yer /etc/resolv.conf
[05:35] <RandyM> for your DNS
[05:35] <RandyM> you can change yer dns to whatever
[05:36] <basketball> RandyM,  is it the nameserver
[05:36] <WTS> lo
[05:37] <Malayke> update-rc.d -f ssh remove , Useless
[05:37] <basketball> RandyM,  DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[05:37] <WTS> would this be the place to get some tech support
[05:37] <RandyM> i am havin a fit with ICEauthority
[05:40] <Malayke> RandyM, what should I do to stop software start-up?
[05:40] <WTS> can anyone help me with my problem? my applications menu does not work
[05:41] <RandyM> most software has a setting to not startup at boot time
[05:42] <RandyM> basketball what do you know about ICEauthorty
[05:42] <basketball> not much
[05:42] <Malayke> No matter what software I installed, it will automatically start at boot
[05:42] <RandyM> same here
[05:42] <basketball> !ICEauthority
[05:43] <Malayke> RandyM
[05:43] <RandyM> i created a usr and it says unable to update it.. im like wtf]
[05:43] <jjavaholic> how can I hunt down the program that is causing cpu usage for Xorg to jump to 16%?
[05:43] <RandyM> ive3 ran linux since 98 nvr dealt with it
[05:50] <dupingping> Hey guys
[05:50] <dupingping> How to convert a bitmap to a vector image format.
[05:50] <dupingping> How to convert a bitmap to a vector image format?
[05:52] <j4son> dupingping: I don't have experience there but 2 seconds at google with "linux convert bitmap to vector image" gave me http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/
[05:52] <jakew02> join #android-firehose
[05:53] <dupingping> j4son: thanks ok.
[05:53] <j4son> there is a Ubuntu package for it so intallation should be relatively easy... good luck
[05:53] <jakew02> whoops missed the / ;)
[06:07] <akiva-mobile> Gahhh; is it worth learning cmake to solve this issue?
[06:08] <elky> j4son / dupingping: if you install inkscape, it has a way to use potrace in it with a GUI. i don't know if it is commandline otherwise or not.
[06:08] <akiva-mobile> I don't know whether this code is auto or manually generated, and I have no idea why its bugging
[06:10] <elky> akiva-mobile: have you asked the unity channel like was suggested earlier?
[06:10] <akiva-mobile> elky, in ubuntu +1, and cmakes
[06:10] <akiva-mobile> nothing
[06:10] <rww> there's a unity channel?
[06:11] <akiva-mobile> rww, apparently, #ubuntu-unity
[06:11] <elky> akiva-mobile: but not #ubuntu-unity ?
[06:12] <akiva-mobile> elky, nope; im on it now
[06:12] <elky> i've asked things in there before. the answer might not be instant, but they generally do get to you eventually if you're patient
[06:14] <akiva-mobile> elky, thanks
[06:17] <violetFX> greetings
[06:18] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, hello
[06:18] <violetFX> i just installed ubuntu for the first time. (also my first time interacting with linux)
[06:18] <violetFX> i'm encountering many problems
[06:18] <violetFX> anyone willing to give me some insight into what i can do to resolve some issues?
[06:18] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, sure!
[06:19] <akiva-mobile> what seems to be the issue?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> whats to command to get latest kernel
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !ask | violetFX
[06:19] <akiva-mobile> lotuspsychje, in git? From Linus's tree?
[06:20] <violetFX> firstly, i'm having a great deal of trouble using my mouse
[06:20] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, okay; is it slow?
[06:20] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, non responsive?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> akiva-mobile: terminal command to get latest kernel
[06:20] <akiva-mobile> lotuspsychje, what do you mean by latest kernel?
[06:21] <krishna__> violetFX, shoot ur concerns..
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> akiva-mobile: well many issues got solved by installing a new kernel right
[06:21] <violetFX> the problem with the mouse is that even though the cursor responds to movement, i can't click on anything after a few minutes of booting up.
[06:22] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, very interesting. That is no good. Do you know what distrobution you are running?
[06:22] <akiva-mobile> 12.04, or 13.10?
[06:22] <violetFX> 13.10 (it's the latest right?
[06:23] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, yep!
[06:23] <krishna_> ya
[06:24] <violetFX> along side this mouse issue, i'm experiencing problems with my keyboard too. it's a gamble using [tab] sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
[06:24] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, hmmmm
[06:25] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, is it just your left mouse button, or your right mouse button as well?
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Because this is a new install, have you updated your packages yet and reinstalled?
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> er not reinstalled
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> restarted*
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> :P
[06:26] <violetFX> right now, the mouse is working again, but when the problem is occurring neither button works
[06:26] <violetFX> i just finished installing the latest autoupdate
[06:27] <violetFX> you're suggesting a reboot?
[06:27] <violetFX> i'll try that now
[06:27] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, okay will be waiting
[06:29] <dhaval2712> popey: Hey
[06:31] <dhaval2712> I have a question, I have a 1.6 Ghz Dual Core w/ 1GB RAM for my DAD. I hav arch installed on it and I'm not sure I want to keep it. Would it be a guide idea to put the 14.04 beta 1 on it?
[06:31] <violetFX> i'm back, and the mouse is still having the same issue.
[06:32] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, okay, I think I may have a solution
[06:32] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, do you know what the terminal is?
[06:32] <tracyone> dhaval2712: just do it
[06:33] <violetFX> for example, when i left click xchat and the initial window opens, i can't select any of the boxes for "nickname" "second nickname" with the mouse, or click "connect" instead i need to use the keyboard to navigate
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> yep
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> okay
[06:33] <violetFX> ctrl+alt+t?
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> yes!
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> very good
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> :)
[06:33] <dhaval2712> tracyone: Can I do it using a 13.04 install by any chance? That's the only iso I have and downloading the 14.04 iso will take time. Can I do something like do-release-upgrade --beta1 or something
[06:33] <jjavaholic> how can I monitor gtk calls to xorg?
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, once there, add these 3 lines
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:raof/aubergine
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> sudo apt-get update
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:35] <akiva-mobile> I got the solution from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/400554/ubuntu-13-04-left-click-not-working-after-a-while
[06:35] <jjavaholic> how can I monitor gtk calls?
[06:36] <violetFX> can you explain to me what sudo is?
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Sure! Su do
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> so you can think of it as
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> super user
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> do
[06:36] <rww> violetFX: it's a program that lets you run a program as if you're a different user
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> sudo
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> do as super user.
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> rww,  yes that too :P
[06:37] <dhaval2712> violetFX: Its basically throwing mud in the face of all security precautions ever taken by sysadmins. Super-user do is basically it. Basically it gives you root privileges with impunity if you can just remember YOUR password.
[06:37] <rww> (and your system is configured to allow it)
[06:37] <akiva-mobile> dhaval2712, ha ha yep. Its there as a safe security practice
[06:38] <akiva-mobile> Windows xp was notorious for viruses, and one of the reasons was because most people ran as administrator
[06:38] <akiva-mobile> ubuntu and other linux distrobutions thus try to minimize that.
[06:38] <dhaval2712> avantgardist: To make sudo safe, you have to have a very good sudoers config. Or else someone can literally do this: sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root and literally delete the system.
[06:39] <dhaval2712> Not kidding. So violetFX, basically be very careful with sudo.
[06:39] <akiva-mobile> ^
[06:39] <rww> well yes, if you give someone full sudo access they can act as an admin, I'm not sure how this is non-obvious
[06:39] <akiva-mobile> I had a client the other day who was playing around with sudo chown, and accidently put a period where it wasnt welcome
[06:39] <violetFX> got it, learn more before experimentation
[06:39] <llutz_> akiva-mobile: generations of unix-users/-admins haven't done daily jobs as root. the "need" for this sudo precaution came, when some guys decided "we have to convert the win-users to this super-secure-OS"
[06:40] <akiva-mobile> and basically set his entire kernel to local user.
[06:40] <dhaval2712> rww Not to go too offtopic but I wasn't saying it wasn't obvious, I was saying it was dangerious.
[06:40] <akiva-mobile> llutz_, Waht? no way. if it was standard, microsoft would have done it fer sure
[06:42] <akiva-mobile> violetFX,  a few tips for the terminal. "ls" lists the directory you are currently in. "cd" allows you to C hange D irectories
[06:42] <llutz_> !cli | violetFX
[06:43] <akiva-mobile> and if you press <Tab> while typing, it autocompletes.
[06:43] <dhaval2712> The arch linux boot is fast but the applications simply aren't fast enough to go through the hassle.
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> dhaval2712, Arch, it does not have unity, does it?
[06:44] <violetFX> ah, now i can use man
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, nice!
[06:44] <dhaval2712> avantgardist: Theoretically.
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> errr?
[06:44] <dhaval2712> I feel my question is quite offtopic, what's the Ubuntu offtopic channel?
[06:45] <llutz_> !ot
[06:45] <texla> There is a program similar to system setting but more advanced..Forgot name can anyone help !!!
[06:45] <dhaval2712> Thanks llutz_
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> dhaval2712, One thing Unity has over all the other desktop environments is its HUD; As a programmer, it drastically increases my workflow
[06:45] <violetFX> what's unity? :(
[06:46] <dhaval2712> I can see that happening. For me, it's KDE.
[06:46] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Good question.
[06:46] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Linux has many different graphical front ends.
[06:46] <akiva-mobile> these basically determine the look and behaviour of your desktop.
[06:47] <akiva-mobile> For example; Apple has a global menu bar, and a dock at the bottom.
[06:47] <llutz_> !unity | violetFX
[06:49] <violetFX> sorry i don't know what a "shell" or "GNOME" is, i am as new to linux as one can be
[06:49] <akiva-mobile> Windows 7 has the start bar at the bottom, and a basic desktop.
[06:49] <violetFX> but i do understand now that unity is one type of "shell" for "GNOME"
[06:49] <violetFX> so by default the GUI i see now is called unity?
[06:49] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Yep
[06:49] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Exactly
[06:50] <violetFX> because i haven't changed anything since installing ubuntu
[06:50] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Unity was designed with a long term vision as being good for touch devices
[06:50] <violetFX> ok, that's pretty cool i'll be exploring that soon after i gain some command over the command-line
[06:50] <akiva-mobile> it is called unity because it aims to unite a user interface across a desktop, television, tablet, and phone.
[06:51] <violetFX> yes, i remember articles on the ubuntu website regarding  a possible touch phone called "edge"
[06:51] <violetFX> i see that
[06:51] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, great!  In Linux, there are basically 4 main user interfaces,
[06:51] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, oh I have run that; it is amazing. Much better than android.
[06:52] <akiva-mobile> violetFX,  The edges are addicting. Use it for 40 minutes, and you will be trying to swipe the edges in android.
[06:52] <texla> There is a program similar to system setting but more advanced..Forgot name can anyone help !!!
[06:53] <violetFX> i'll be looking into it more when i have some confidence in using linux
[06:53] <akiva-mobile> anyways, beyond unity, You have Gnome which aims for simplicity, you have KDE which aims for customizability, and you have xfce which aims to be great on resources.
[06:53] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, You will have a lot of fun doing it.
[06:53] <llutz_> and you have  over 9000 other different windowmanagers ...
[06:54] <llutz_> well, more or less different
[06:54] <akiva-mobile> llutz_, oh and don't forget the compositors
[06:54] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, you might want to have fun playing around with compiz
[06:55] <violetFX> what's compiz?
[06:55] <akiva-mobile> or kwin if you are on kde
[06:55] <llutz_> kwin is a windowmanager
[06:55] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, it is a compositor which has many plugins.
[06:55] <jjavaholic>  how can I monitor gtk calls to xorg?
[06:55] <akiva-mobile> llutz_, Then what am I thinking of? what gives kde its wobbly windows?
[06:55] <violetFX> so, is this something that i can try installing via command-line?
[06:56] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, so for example, you can make your desktop 3d
[06:56] <llutz_> akiva-mobile: kwin has compositor-features, but basically is/was just the kde default windowmanager
[06:56] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, yah, but you can do it through the software center. Be careful, as it can be unstable
[06:57] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, but go to the software center, and search for compiz config
[06:57] <violetFX> is it possible to open the software center with the command-line?
[06:57] <akiva-mobile> yep
[06:58] <startnix> Hello people!!
[06:58] <akiva-mobile> type software-center
[06:58] <startnix> I am using xfce, but there is a problem, I cannot lock screen, when I click lock screen nothing happens, I did tried, shortcut key, that is Ctrl+L but didn't work tough!!
[06:59] <violetFX> (btw, i'm really loving the linux experience so far, hardware issues aside)
[06:59] <greyhatpython> hi i upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 development release, Ubuntu automatically locks the screen while using the system, any help?
[06:59] <llutz_> !14.04 | greyhatpython
[07:00] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, great!  While you are in software center, you can install synaptic package manager. it is an older version of software centre (sort of), but it contains many more packages to look at.
[07:00] <greyhatpython> yes i know but everything is working fine except it locks the screen.
[07:00] <llutz_> greyhatpython: ". support in #ubuntu+1
[07:00] <jjavaholic> startnix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021725
[07:00] <greyhatpython> thanks!
[07:01] <startnix> jjavaholic, thanks, I will take a look at it.
[07:01] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, when you get synaptic up, you can search for compiz plugins, and you can install some extra plugins that will allow you to do pretty unbelievable things with the desktop.
[07:02] <akiva-mobile> !compiz
[07:03] <violetFX> synaptic-manager is installing now
[07:04] <violetFX> !brb
[07:04] <texla> There is a program similar to system setting but more advanced..Forgot name can anyone help !!!
[07:05] <akiva-mobile> texla, what kind of system settings?
[07:06] <texla> Themes,window focus etc
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> texla, oh why didnt you say so :P
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> texla, try compiz-config
[07:06] <texla> Nope that not it
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> texla, you can set themes and focus in there
[07:07] <texla> Yes you can but that was not the app
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> texla, the only one I remember besides that was for unity, and it wasn't particular stable
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> unity-tweak or something
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> yah thats it. unity tweak
[07:08] <texla> Yes that sounds right
[07:09] <akiva-mobile> cool
[07:11] <texla> akiva-mobile, Nope its not in synaptic
[07:11] <jjavaholic> how can I track my gtk app calls
[07:11] <akiva-mobile> im looking at it right now
[07:11] <akiva-mobile> in software center
[07:11] <akiva-mobile> unity tweak tool
[07:12] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, what do you mean, calls? is this telephony?
[07:12] <lickalott> Can someone tell me what the best app/way is to get files and pictures off your Android?  I've been using gMTP but its horribly sluggish
[07:13] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, i'm a classic steak and potatos guy (copy pasta)
[07:13] <Beldar> lickalott, What release of ubuntu?
[07:13] <lickalott> 12.04.04
[07:13] <lickalott> *12.04.4
[07:13] <jjavaholic> software calls to xorg
[07:14] <lickalott> default folder viewer copy and paste works, at best, 50% of the time
[07:14] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, hmmmm
[07:14] <Beldar> lickalott, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[07:14] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, do you know if the xorg file is changed when called?
[07:15] <lickalott> lovelace!!!  thanks
[07:15] <jjavaholic> nope
[07:15] <Beldar> lickalott, MTP mounts in 13.10 automatically.
[07:15] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, as in you don't know, or it doesnt change?
[07:15] <jjavaholic> I want to track down what is causing xorg high cpu usage
[07:16] <jjavaholic> I don't know
[07:16] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, I don't know how to monitor if a file is read but not changed
[07:17] <akiva-mobile> but I do know how to detect if its changed
[07:17] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, I would be interested if you find an answer, but honestly you might want to try with ##linux
[07:17] <akiva-mobile> tend to be more command line gurus there
[07:17] <lickalott> K.  one more then i'll be parting.   I'm running chrome.  Does anyone know off the top of their heads where the browser plugin dir is?  I'm trying to get flashplayer to work on chrome.
[07:18] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, chromium or chrome?
[07:18] <lickalott> chrome
[07:19] <akiva-mobile> mmmm google is as much of my friend in this case, as it is yours
[07:19] <akiva-mobile> you might want to try #google.
[07:21] <lickalott> i'm googling now.  I was just wondering if someone knew.  Thanks
[07:22] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, good luck!
[07:25] <lickalott> I'm restarting chrome now.  *fingers crossed.
[07:37] <vivek_1729> Hi
[07:38] <vivek_1729> I am having trouble configuring touchegg to support multifinger gestures in Ubuntu 13.04
[07:38] <cfhowlett> vivek_1729, 1.  13.04 is end of life = no support
[07:38] <cfhowlett> !touch
[07:39] <raj__> is it a good strategy to set JAVA_HOME & default java to "/usr/lib/jvm/default-java"  symlink & point that symlink to any java installation like oracle java/ opnjdk that was switching between jre versions & upgrading to newer versions would be very easier, no ?
[07:39] <vivek_1729> Ok, but in general
[07:39] <vivek_1729> do you have any idea if synaptics touchpads have been configured for multi touch support in recent versions
[07:40] <vivek_1729> i will gladly upgrade to 13.10 or 14.04 if need be
[07:40] <akiva-mobile> vivek_1729, I am an ignoramus, but I gather that mir should definitely have this.
[07:40] <js_doode> hello. planning to upgrade at some point. but for the moment, when i sudo apt-get install, all my repository links are obviously broken. running 10.04
[07:41] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, wow that is old
[07:41] <js_doode> ^ can i re-direct them somehow to a functioning repository still supporting 10.04?
[07:41] <js_doode> i just need to add php5-cli to terminal.
[07:41] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, built it from source maybe?
[07:42] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yeah. its an old box i just fired up.
[07:42] <vivek_1729> Besides touchegg though, do you know of any programs that might do the trick?
[07:42] <vivek_1729> I am just willing to give them a try
[07:42] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: having to upgrade means i have to backup and i dont want to do that just yet. :)
[07:42] <vivek_1729> before upgrading
[07:42] <cfhowlett> vivek_1729, mir isn't going to come out before 14.10 ...
[07:43] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, you can test it though :P
[07:43] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, how much do you have to upgrade?
[07:44] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, will ubuntu-one not be enough room?
[07:44] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yeah, but i just don't want to do it right now.
[07:44] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: time is not on my side. as i have to get a project done.
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, is this the desktop version?
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> okay got it
[07:45] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yes. desktop
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, okay its end of support. Server still has it
[07:45] <szx> will ubuntu ever fix its update process? it's totally fucked up, I spent this morning resolving package dependencies and crap like that
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, you might want to try debian debs
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> just a guess
[07:45] <szx> very dissapointed
[07:45] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: plus. upgrading will crap out this desktop as the hardware sucks in it.
[07:46] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, can't be that bad. all you need is a gig of ram
[07:46] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yeah, thx, i'll look for a deb pkg. :)
[07:46] <szx> why not just do it like Fedora does
[07:46] <llutz_> js_doode: you use outdated software on even more outdated hardware, but rely on it for a project? rethink your workflow
[07:47] <cfhowlett> szx, it doesn't.  if you prefer fedora, please use it.
[07:47] <akiva-mobile> szx, that is not ordinary
[07:48] <akiva-mobile> szx, what kind of packages are you trying to install
[07:48] <akiva-mobile> szx, it sounds like you are downloading poor quality debs
[07:49] <szx> well I can't remember what packages they were but that was a nightmare
[07:49] <szx> and now some of the packages are missing
[07:49] <akiva-mobile> szx, were they from the official sources?
[07:49] <akiva-mobile> and what version are you running?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, that ^^^
[07:50] <lickalott> Beldar, you're an animal.  Works like a phillipino hooker
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !language|lickalott,
[07:51] <lickalott> and just in case someone else asks.  He's how to get flash working properly in chrome (for 12.04 at least) - http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[07:51] <lickalott> sry cfhowlett
[07:51] <js_doode> llutz_: thank you. i will. where do you go for your latest hardware compatiblity list for lates LTS of ubuntu?
[07:51] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, wow, you should see if askubuntu.com has that question
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !hardware|js_doode,
[07:51] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, so you can answer it there, and get some precious rep
[07:52] <llutz_> !hardware
[07:52] <js_doode> thx
[07:52] <llutz_> grrr too late, sry laggy 3g connection
[07:52] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, usually not necessary.
[07:53] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: what's not necessary?
[07:53] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, oh hardware compatability, not sure if you have been in the linux ecosystem
[07:53] <akiva-mobile> but its usually only new obscure hardware that needs support.
[07:54] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, i mean, this isnt a solaris system is it?
[07:55] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: no its not. its an older hp tower.
[07:55] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, should be fine; can't imagine any linux distro having trouble with it. Any idea of the specS?
[07:55] <js_doode> llutz_: yeah. i'm just gonna backup and do a clean install.
[07:56] <akiva-mobile> like my laptop from 2006 runs ubuntu as seemless as my 2013 laptop.
[07:56] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: intel celeron d cpu
[07:56] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: dunno how much ram.
[07:56] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: how can i check in terminal?
[07:56] <akiva-mobile> good question :P
[07:56] <llutz_> js_doode: free -m
[07:56] <cfhowlett> js_doode, strongly suggest you see lubuntu or xubuntu.  the first is optimized for older/slower tech - 2nd does a pretty decent job as well.
[07:57] <akiva-mobile> ^
[07:57] <js_doode> cfhowlett: k thx. will do
[07:57] <akiva-mobile> but even so, unity works great with just 2 gigs of ram
[07:58] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: total shows 488
[07:58] <akiva-mobile> o_O
[07:58] <akiva-mobile> can you upgrade?
[07:59] <akiva-mobile> but in that case, xubuntu and lubuntu are excellent suggestions
[07:59] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: not right now. don't have any ram sticks lying around.
[07:59] <akiva-mobile> but it does have free slots
[07:59] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: which is better xubuntu or lubuntu?
[07:59] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: haven't checked.
[08:00] <akiva-mobile> xubuntu imo,
[08:00] <akiva-mobile> it uses xfce
[08:00] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: so i should be able to sudo apt-get to my hearts content just as if i were in ubuntu?
[08:00] <akiva-mobile> should be able to
[08:01] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: k. gonna download it
[08:02] <akiva-mobile> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088220
[08:02] <akiva-mobile> i heard that xfce has something equal to the hud in unity
[08:02] <helmut_> hi
[08:04] <akiva-mobile> helmut_, hello
[08:04] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: ^ really?
[08:06] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, someone was telling me. Couldnt name it off hand though. It just makes using menu commands a breeze
[08:08] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: ^ so you don't know what it's called?
[08:08] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, nah. If I were you, I'd just splerge 50 dollars, and buy a better desktop
[08:08] <akiva-mobile> and put that one on... idle server mode
[08:09] <akiva-mobile> I appreciate what xfce and lubuntu do, along with puppy, dsl, etc
[08:09] <akiva-mobile> but unity is just really decent to use
[08:11] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: ^ i do plan on upgrading this summer.
[08:12] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, mmm have fun :)
[08:12] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: where'd you get your desktop?
[08:12] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, I am a huge fan of thinkpads.
[08:12] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: sweet. which one do you own?
[08:13] <akiva-mobile> x230. Best keyboards, great durability, 20 hour battery life, perfect business aesthetic
[08:13] <akiva-mobile> and trackpoint
[08:13] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: how old is it?
[08:13] <karstenk77> hello
[08:13] <akiva-mobile> x230 is 2013; i got mine 5 months ago for $750
[08:14] <cfhowlett> karstenk77, greetings.  what is your ubuntu question?
[08:14] <akiva-mobile> but anyways this is ot, pm me if you want more personal recomendation
[08:14] <karstenk77> i have the problem, that i cannot maximize windows at my second screen, every time when i try to maximize at second screen, all returns to first screen. How can I solve or where I have to search for?
[08:15] <karstenk77> using 12.04 LTS
[08:15] <clue_h> why are kernel release names different than kernel version names
[08:15] <clue_h> wrong room sorry
[08:15] <akiva-mobile> karstenk77, does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/214441/windows-maximize-in-the-wrong-display
[08:21] <red234324> Anyone aailable to recommend a general email notifier on ubuntu - one that works for different addresses not just gmail, something that pops up "You Got Mail" when something arrives in your inbox ?
[08:22] <aib> something edits/deletes my bash_history so I never see entries older than a week. who/what is this?
[08:24] <llutz_> aib: have you set HISTSIZE / HISTFILESIZE?
[08:24] <aib> llutz: yeah, 16384 for both
[08:24] <aib> never seen history go above 1000-1500 though
[08:25] <akiva-mobile> red234324, thunderbird works for me.
[08:28] <aib> only thing that mentions bash_history in /etc is apparmor, surely that's not deleting my file?
[08:29] <aib> my oldest entries seem to be about a week old
[08:34] <red234324> thanks akiva-mobile, can Thunderbird check webmail too?
[08:34] <llutz_> aib: wc -l ~/.bash_history
[08:34] <akiva-mobile> red234324, webmail? Wah?
[08:35] <aib> llutz_: about 600
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> red234324, you mean like gmail?
[08:35] <red234324> gmail, hotmail, yahoomail etc
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> oh yah, super easy to setup
[08:35] <aib> as I've said, I've never seen it go above 1500
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> red234324, they got the proper settings preconfigured
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> so just a few clicks and you are good
[08:36] <red234324> cool, just what i wanted
[08:36] <aib> llutz_: my uptime is 11 days, can something be deleting history on reboot?
[08:37] <llutz_> aib: just to make sure :)   i couldn't think of any stupid cron-job removing users history
[08:37] <aib> and I grepped /etc just to be sure, no mentions beside apparmor
[08:37] <llutz_> aib: is it cleaned completely or just truncated
[08:38] <aib> llutz_: the oldest command is about a week old, so something must be cleaning it or deleting from the beginning
[08:38] <red234324> I think bleachbit can clean bash history
[08:38] <vires> please how do i register on the freenode network?
[08:38] <Sailor7009> hi everybody
[08:39] <llutz_> !register | vires
[08:39] <aib> I might set up timestamping and pinpoint the deletion date, but that'd take a while. until the next delete, and I'm sure I won't remember to check the history every day
[08:40] <Sailor7009> for the 3rd time i can't install ubuntu on my pc, could anybody help me
[08:40] <llutz_> aib: use incron to watch history-file, write any activity into a log
[08:40] <Sailor7009> ?
[08:40] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, sure!
[08:40] <akiva-mobile> what do you need help with?
[08:40] <akiva-mobile> what kind of pc do you have?
[08:40] <vires1> may i know some of the programming networks that exists on freenode?
[08:40] <llutz_> !alis | vires1
[08:41] <akiva-mobile> vires1, what kind of programming do you want to do?
[08:41] <akiva-mobile> vires1, Are you just learning?
[08:41] <vires1> c programming
[08:41] <llutz_> vires1: /join ##c
[08:41] <aib> I like ##programming
[08:41] <Sailor7009> yes, its a hp amd a4-5000 radeon win8 built-in
[08:42] <akiva-mobile> vires1, if you are just learning, I would go ##learnprogramming
[08:42] <vires1> thank you
[08:42] <akiva-mobile> vires1, #learnprogramming, sorry
[08:42] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: yes, its a hp amd a4-5000 radeon win8 built-in
[08:42] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, ah, so its a rather new machine
[08:42] <Sailor7009> very new
[08:43] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, very nice.
[08:43] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, What version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[08:43] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: 13.10
[08:43] <Sailor7009> I'm going mad about that
[08:43] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, great. are you trying to dual boot?
[08:44] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: yes
[08:44] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, is windows 8 already installed?
[08:44] <aib> llutz_: "user 'root' is not allowed to use incron" - is there a tutorial for this incrond?
[08:44] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: it already a dualboot shortcut but with error something during boot fail
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> hmmmm,
[08:45] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: built-in win8
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> so windows is already installed?
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> yah I got it...
[08:45] <llutz_> aib: i don't know any right now, but i'm sure there are some howtos in the wiki
[08:45] <Sailor7009> yes came with
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, can you boot to an ubuntu live desktop?
[08:46] <vires1> please how did you say i would register
[08:46] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: i didn't get it, live desktop? whats like?
[08:47] <llutz_> !register | vires
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, when you install ubuntu
[08:47] <Sailor7009> i got a cd
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> it gives you an option
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> install or try ubuntu
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> click "Try ubuntu"
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> right?
[08:47] <Sailor7009> even though
[08:47] <Sailor7009> i tried it
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> yah? did you get to a desktop?
[08:48] <Sailor7009> of course before i chose install
[08:48] <akiva-mobile> great
[08:48] <Sailor7009> not at all, failing
[08:48] <akiva-mobile> so far so good
[08:48] <llutz_> aib: http://linuxaria.com/article/incron-cron-inotify?lang=en
[08:48] <akiva-mobile> now do you know what error you get when you boot up?
[08:49] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, do you get to a screen that looks like this :http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5H5ZrZpFhI/UTOyE3G55CI/AAAAAAAAEmM/XiJDa7ktIC8/s1600/grub2.png
[08:49] <Sailor7009> now, when i restart a pc it came dual boot shortcut, win and ubuntu, but can't load uvuntu
[08:50] <Sailor7009> its very quick, i can't see
[08:50] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, ah okay
[08:50] <akiva-mobile> and it goes to a black screen?
[08:50] <akiva-mobile> or does it reboot?
[08:51] <Sailor7009> black screen when trying to load the cd
[08:51] <Welastevil> Hi everyone!
[08:51] <Welastevil> Good afternoon
[08:51] <Sailor7009> and the cd stops
[08:51] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, its already installed though?
[08:52] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, okay sorry I am a bit confused
[08:52] <Welastevil> so...I have an issue about the manubar in ubuntu.,..that one in upper part of the desk top...\
[08:52] <Welastevil>  is it possible to hide it as we do with the dock?
[08:52] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, have you already installed ubuntu, or are you still trying to boot the cd?
[08:52] <vladimir> Hello, Can someone help me with a error message: "you have only 11.4 MB available in Boot! "
[08:52] <cfhowlett> vladimir, clear out your old kernels
[08:53] <vladimir> how do i do that?
[08:53] <vladimir> i am not familiar with the workings of ubuntu, sorry i am using it since few months now
[08:53] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, if you are not sure, feel free to tell me. I might be using too advanced language for you
[08:53] <Sailor7009> I'm trying, what happen is that when try to load ubuntu its came a black screen and cd just stop
[08:54] <vladimir> how do i clear old kernels?
[08:54] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, so; you have not installed ubuntu yet?
[08:55] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: ok, not yet. but the computer itself create a shortcut for dualboot where come win8 and ubuntu
[08:55] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, where the shortcut? In windows? or when you boot?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> vladimir, open a terminal
[08:56] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: when i boot
[08:56] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, also, is english your first language?
[08:56] <akiva-mobile> okay, does the shortcut look like this? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5H5ZrZpFhI/UTOyE3G55CI/AAAAAAAAEmM/XiJDa7ktIC8/s1600/grub2.png
[08:56] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: not, but i understand
[08:56] <vladimir> cfhowlett: how do i open a terminal
[08:56] <akiva-mobile> vladimir, ctrl + alt + "t"
[08:57] <cfhowlett> vladimir, this ^^^
[08:57] <vladimir> :) tnx
[08:57] <vladimir> ok. done
[08:57] <Welastevil> so? someone whu understand about costumization of ubuntu?
[08:57] <Welastevil>  I wanna hide menubar as I do with the dock
[08:57] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, uhmmm the global bar?
[08:57] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, anything is possible, but what you are asking for is pretty advanced.
[08:57] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: let me run over and tell you
[08:58] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009,  sure!
[08:58] <cfhowlett> vladimir, dpkg --list 'linux-image*'
[08:58] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, also, what is your first language? There are ubuntu channels for every language out there.
[08:58] <Seib> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 on my HP Chromebook 11. My battery died and I didn't realize it was low, so my computer shut off automatically. But when I turned it back on after plugging the charger into it, the "OS Verification Is Off" screen came on and I clicked ctrl D like I was supposed to, but the Xubuntu login screen never came up! Instead, it just went straight on to the ChromeOS login screen... D:
[08:58] <cfhowlett> vladimir, that'll give you a list of your installed kernels
[08:58] <vladimir> do i type :   dpkg --list 'linux-image*'
[08:59] <cfhowlett> vladimir, exactly
[08:59] <moah> hello, the latest ubuntu update on 12.04 broke flash on my firefox, what happened??
[08:59] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: Portuguese
[08:59] <akiva-mobile> !portuguese
[08:59] <Seib> I need help. I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 on my HP Chromebook 11. My battery died and I didn't realize it was low, so my computer shut off automatically. But when I turned it back on after plugging the charger into it, the "OS Verification Is Off" screen came on and I clicked ctrl D like I was supposed to, but the Xubuntu login screen never came up! Instead, it just went straight on to the ChromeOS login screen... D:
[08:59] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, :)
[09:00] <vladimir> ok i have a lot of kernels
[09:00] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: but i feel fine using english
[09:00] <akiva-mobile> okay; just a thought
[09:00] <Seib> Does anyone here have any knowledge regarding Xubuntu and chromebooks?
[09:00] <Sailor7009> and its better to practise once I'm studying it
[09:00] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, so did it look like the screenshot?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> vladimir, as expected.  you'll want to keep at least the 2 newest ones
[09:00] <llutz_> vladimir: copy and paste the following into your terminal, if you are sure the kernel actual running works fine for you:"dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"
[09:01] <vladimir> ok. i suppose. how do i get rid of the rest
[09:01] <cfhowlett> vladimir, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.3.2.0-55.57 will remove that EXACT kernel
[09:01] <Seib> ------------------------------
[09:01] <cfhowlett> vladimir, proceed carefully
[09:01] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: just a moment... changing users
[09:01] <arun_> hello guys can I get or talk with lamont !!!
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !patience|Seib,
[09:01] <Seib> Sorry.
[09:02] <vladimir> ok should i remove the oldest 1 by 1
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Seib, chromebook support might be a good stop for you
[09:02] <squared> Morning, Everyone.
[09:02] <Seib> Their expertise has to do with chromebooks, not xubuntu.
[09:02] <vladimir> by typing : sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.3....
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Seib, but they will know about dual booting that chromebook
[09:03] <Seib> im not dualbooting
[09:03] <cfhowlett> vladimir, right.  and that should be the OLDEST kernel
[09:03] <Seib> I'm running 2 environments on 1 OS.
[09:03] <Seib> I used Crouton.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Seib, what is the primary OS
[09:03] <arun_> is here lamont?
[09:03] <Seib> ChromeOS.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> arun_, this isn't the social channel ...
[09:04] <vladimir> may i copy - paste here the list of all kernels i see dat are present
[09:04] <squared> Quick question, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 13.10 on to my hp proliant microserver and i can select my language but then on the next screen the keyboard stops working - i have googled around but the only suggestion of changing the port for the usb keyboard doesn't help. Anyone have any other suggestions?
[09:04] <arun_> cfhowlett: sorry but I need to talk with him so
[09:05] <cfhowlett> arun_, well he's definitely not here presently
[09:05] <arun_> cfhowlett: thanks !!!
[09:05] <Welastevil> arun...are you from india right?
[09:05] <vladimir> from           3. 3.8.0-19.30           up to     3.8.0.34.52         i see i have at least 13 kernels
[09:06] <cfhowlett> vladimir, proceed carefully from older to new and preserve at least the 2 newest
[09:07] <vladimir> ok. i am starting
[09:12] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: it came, try ubuntu, install ubuntu, OEM, and check disk
[09:12] <Sailor7009> i chose try ubuntu
[09:12] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, cool
[09:13] <akiva-mobile> and it went to black?
[09:13] <Sailor7009> then ubuntu theme appear
[09:13] <akiva-mobile> oh good :)
[09:13] <Sailor7009> process and went black
[09:13] <akiva-mobile> is it still black? I want you to try and press, alt + ctrl + "F1"
[09:14] <Alkano> wenos días
[09:15] <Sailor7009> during the process: starting ... OK, starting ... OK, for several features, and one of them .... Fail
[09:15] <Alkano> necesito ayuda porfavor.
[09:16] <Sailor7009> still black
[09:16] <Sailor7009> can i do it right now?
[09:16] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: FYI: its boot from a cd
[09:16] <squared> can anyone help?
[09:16] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, yah I am just thinking... is it a cd or dvd?
[09:16] <Sailor7009> dvd
[09:16] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, if you can, its best to do it from a usb thumb drive
[09:17] <Sailor7009> ctrl +alt+f1, nothing happen
[09:17] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, also when you burn, it is best to do it at the slowest speed
[09:18] <szx> http://pastebin.com/H3W7XiLJ
[09:18] <szx> how do I fix this??
[09:19] <aib> llutz_: it looks like my earliest history entry coincides with my last reboot. In all likelihood, my file isn't surviving reboots
[09:19] <akiva-mobile> szx, what is this?
[09:19] <llutz_> !14.04 | szx
[09:20] <Sailor7009> ok, so put all those files into a usb and reboot?
[09:20] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: right now i take off the dvd, it boot from hdd and came dualboot screen of win8 and ubuntu, i chose win8 because itried many times in this case but without success
[09:21] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009,  hummmmm, see my issue here is that I am having trouble understanding whether you have ubuntu partitioned on your computer or not.
[09:21] <akiva-mobile> Do you know what partitioned means?
[09:22] <llutz_> aib: very odd. entries are written at runtime, so it cannot be missed cachewrites o smth like that.
[09:23] <aib> llutz_: yeah, and my reboots are clean. at the very least I exit all my shells
[09:24] <vladimir> cfhowlett: may i send you a private message?
[09:24] <llutz_> aib: can you reboot the machine for a test?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> vladimir, please
[09:24] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: as i said before, before i tried to install it and disabling secure boot, but i didn't create a partition for it, after errors, afterwards i use try but without success also
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, okay
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, so this is what your goal is, okay: Download ubuntu to a bootable usb disk
[09:25] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: does it make sense?
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, that does, yes thank you
[09:25] <aib> llutz_: I'd rather not. Or at least I'd rather assume it's deleted at startup and set up logging before the reboot
[09:26] <aib> llutz_: can this incron daemon report process ids?
[09:26] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, follow this tutorial here :http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[09:26] <llutz_> aib: i'm not sure
[09:27] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, once you have that done, set your bios to boot from your usb stick, then go ahead and do that.
[09:27] <akiva-mobile> if it still gives you a black screen
[09:28] <akiva-mobile> take your computer model, hp xxxxx, and google "Ubuntu install black screen hp XXXXX 13.10"
[09:28] <akiva-mobile> and if you get nothing, then post your question to askubuntu.com
[09:29] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: ok, I'll try it. afterwards I'll bring to you the results
[09:29] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: thank you, and for your patiente too, very glad
[09:29] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, its 230 am here :P
[09:31] <Sailor7009> are you in USA?
[09:31] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile:
[09:31] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, Canada, eh?
[09:31] <akiva-mobile> ;)
[09:32] <akiva-mobile> so give the canadians the nice points. If you really need to get back to me, akiva@linux.com
[09:32] <Justus> hi, is it possible to set up ssh to disallow tunneling from external hosts?
[09:32] <llutz_> Justus: man sshd_config "PermitTunnel"
[09:33] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: for sure, i never talk to canadians... I'll e-mail you
[09:34] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: I'm in italy for a year and doing english course and others
[09:34] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: cheers
[09:34] <akiva-mobile> its pretty decent. Good luck with your installation
[09:34] <akiva-mobile> ciao
[09:34] <Welastevil> Hallo
[09:34] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: ciao
[09:35] <Welastevil> someone here that understands well about costumization in UBUNTU?
[09:35] <Welastevil>  I wanna hide my menubar as a did with dock
[09:35] <Welastevil> is it possible?
[09:35] <Welastevil> I wanted to do it with my mac but I couldnt
[09:35] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, huh... once again
[09:35] <Welastevil> sorry
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, anything is possible; how much do you want to try?
[09:36] <Welastevil>  my connection flet down(((
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> okay
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> np
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> but how much do you really want to get into it?
[09:36] <Welastevil> but now I think tht is good
[09:36] <aib> llutz: woah, http://superuser.com/questions/575479/bash-history-truncated-to-500-lines-on-each-login
[09:36] <Welastevil> I just wanna hide the manubar and thats all!
[09:36] <Justus> ok, following problem: ssh root@knima.de -i KroWin1.ssh -R 0.0.0.0:81:localhost:8000 <- as I understand it this should setup a remote listener that redirects to my local port 8000, but when I check it in netstat the listener is only on localhost
[09:36] <Welastevil>  as I did with dockkk
[09:37] <Welastevil> I wanna have a 100% cklean descktop
[09:37] <Welastevil> clean*
[09:37] <Welastevil> and thats all
[09:37] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, ... afaik, there is no clickable way to just do this. But if you want to download the ubuntu SDK
[09:38] <akiva-mobile> and start messing around with the code.
[09:38] <squared> I'm trying to install ubuntu server 13.10 on to my hp proliant microserver and i can select my language but then on the next screen the keyboard stops working - i have googled around but the only suggestion of changing the port for the usb keyboard doesn't help. Anyone have any other suggestions?
[09:40] <Welastevil> ubuntu SDK is an app?
[09:40] <thoonai> hey, any idea how I get traffic by ip into a logfile or pipe it into an application? iptraf does not support tap devices, and iftop has no output
[09:41] <akiva-mobile> squared; onscreen keyboard?
[09:42] <akiva-mobile> its called onboard
[09:42] <akiva-mobile> don't know if its preinstalled with ubuntu server
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> thoonai, uhmmmmm pipe it into what kind of application?
[09:45] <Welastevil> so akiva-mobile, how can I get it? is it an Apps?
[09:45] <Welastevil>  this sdk?
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, yep, search ubuntu sdk
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> or qtcreator
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> same difference basically
[09:46] <Welastevil> Thanks bro!
[09:46] <riverloop> Hello everyone. I'm right now using precise and I want to install linux 3.11. I have installed linux image generic 3.11, but it doesn't seem to work.
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, have you ever programmed before?
[09:47] <thoonai> sorry gtg
[09:47] <riverloop> It is booting into the old version again.
[09:47] <Welastevil> no man.....Im not good in computers...by the way, very bad!
[09:47] <Welastevil> Im trying very hard to learn it...
[09:47] <Welastevil> I will start computer classes next week)))
[09:47] <riverloop> What can be done?
[09:47] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, that is great. This... will be steep
[09:47] <Welastevil> maximun that I did is a couerse for chuldren, "the hour of code" fro free in internet hahahaha
[09:47] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, you might want to start with python as a programming language.
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Qt uses C++, and it is... tough to say the least.
[09:48] <Welastevil> really?
[09:48] <Welastevil> can you sugest me some books to download or sites?
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, oh yah.
[09:48] <Welastevil> thats nice man!
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, my advice would be to go here ##learnpython
[09:50] <riverloop> guys any idea?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> riverloop, run update and dist-upgrade to get the latest packages
[09:51] <riverloop> cfhowlett, thanks.
[09:51] <Welastevil> Im very glade with the help that Im getting here!
[09:51] <Welastevil> Yopur people are nice!!!
[09:52] <i5150pc> hello, How can I fix "Read Error" after installing Ubuntu Server?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !server|i5150pc,
[09:52] <Welastevil> I also have a mac, but all time in macosx chat, some people moke on me because they know more than me, instead give me help
[09:53] <i5150pc> cfhowlett: Thanks
[09:53] <cfhowlett> i5150pc, you're welcome
[09:53] <cfhowlett> riverloop, you're welcome
[09:55] <newlad> Hello. i need help Configure ProFTPd To Use SFTP Instead of FTP
[09:58] <newlad> Hello. i need help Configure ProFTPd To Use SFTP Instead of FTP
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !patience|newlad,
[09:58] <newlad> i am following this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-configure-proftpd-to-use-sftp-instead-of-ftp
[09:59] <newlad> I got to Configure Key Based Authentication
[09:59] <newlad> but this command is not working
[09:59] <newlad> sudo ssh-keygen -e -f ~username/.ssh/authorized_keys | sudo tee /etc/proftpd/authorized_keys/username
[10:00] <newlad> i change "username" to "Jamie" but i am getting "Too many arguments"
[10:00] <squared> akiva-mobile: no my usb keyboard ubnutu hasn't installed
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> squared, just in time
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> almost left
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> squared, sorry what was your issue? your keyboard aint working?
[10:01] <akiva-mobile> squared, again, if you need a substitute, see if you have onboard installed, and use that
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> that is a virtual keyboard.
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> good luck
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> later folks
[10:02] <squared> you say installed, but i'm trying to install on a new server
[10:02] <squared> nothing is installed yet
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> squared, but your installer has tools
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> that are installed on the live environment
[10:03] <akiva-mobile> I don't know whether ubuntu-server has onboard
[10:03] <squared> it isn't the live environment, does the server eidition have a live environment
[10:03] <aib> newlad: can you execute the first command?
[10:03] <newlad> aib "sudo mkdir /etc/proftpd/authorized_keys" ?
[10:03] <akiva-mobile> squared, probably not, but I don't think it would be too hard to switch from ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server
[10:04] <squared> akiva-mobile: ok no worries, thanks for your help, i'll let you go
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> i think its just bundled software, but I don't know; they could have altered the kernel somehow
[10:04] <aib> newlad: ssh-keygen -e -f ~username/.ssh/authorized_key
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> squared, thanks for understanding. Good luck bro
[10:05] <newlad> aib "No such file or directory"
[10:05] <aib> newlad: sorry I missed an "s"
[10:06] <newlad> aib "ssh-keygen -e -f ~jamie/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[10:06] <newlad> aib " too many arguments"
[10:07] <newlad> aib when i try creatinga directory "sudo mkdir /etc/proftpd/authorized_keys" i got "file exists" error
[10:07] <bekks> Thats a file, not a directory. Run this: ssh-keygen
[10:07] <aib> newlad: you're trying to create a directory; presumably it already exists from when you did it earlier
[10:08] <bekks> Without any para,eters.
[10:08] <pramiti>  http://pastebin.com/iiBseHQm i am getting this error while installing kdelibs5-dev [11:29] please help
[10:08] <pramiti> i read this is beacuse of conflict between kdelibs5-dev and pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5
[10:08] <pramiti> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-dev_4%3a4.12.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.4~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/preparetips', which is also in package pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5
[10:08] <newlad> aib how can i change to make sure it was actually created?
[10:08] <bekks> newlad: Run this: ssh-keygen
[10:09] <pramiti> i removed kdelibs5-dev package and tried to install again.. still same problem
[10:09] <bekks> newlad: without any parameters.
[10:09] <bekks> newlad: Do you know what ssh-keygen -e does?
[10:09] <newlad> bekks i have already have a public and private key i created
[10:10] <bekks> newlad: And now you want do to what exactly using ssh-keygen?
[10:10] <newlad> bekks using puttygeb
[10:10] <aib> bekks: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-configure-proftpd-to-use-sftp-instead-of-ftp
[10:11] <newlad> bekks sorry they one i created was for a new droplet
[10:11] <newlad> bekks the one for the stfp will be different
[10:12] <bekks> newlad: What do you mean by "droplet"? And did you understand that you need to have existing public keys in authorized:keys for "transporting" them to proftpd?
[10:12] <aib> I still don't know why you're getting too many arguments
[10:13] <newlad> bekks and aib i run "ssh-keygen" and it asking for "enter file to save the key"
[10:13] <bekks> newlad: Can you show us a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin please, along with "dpkg -l | grep openssh"?
[10:13] <bekks> newlad: ssh-keygen generates a new pair of public/private keys.
[10:14] <bekks> newlad: you dont need that if you want to use your puttygen-generated key.
[10:14] <newlad> aib droplets is like a storage for acloud in digitalocean
[10:15] <newlad> bekks i create a key for ssh droplet. I one for sftp will be different i think
[10:15] <aib> newlad: what does "ls -l ~jamie/.ssh/authorized_keys" say?
[10:15] <bekks> newlad: you dont need to create any keys on your server.
[10:15] <bekks> newlad: And pastebin the requested information please.
[10:16] <newlad> bekks i did it for a secure sftp if i am going to use filezilla to  access my cloud server
[10:17] <bekks> newlad: And you dont need to create keys on your server to do so. Can you please pastebin the requested information now?
[10:17] <synthelectrics> hello!
[10:18] <Unrecovered> hi there
[10:19] <newlad> aib i did it "jamie brown/.ssh/authorized_keys" and got "not a directory brown"
[10:19] <newlad> aib "C:\Users\jamie brown\.ssh"
[10:19] <bekks> newlad: I am asking for the last time: can you please pastebin the information requeested?
[10:20] <newlad> bekks which information?
[10:20] <bekks> 0322 111252 < bekks> newlad: Can you show us a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin please, along with  "dpkg -l | grep openssh"?
[10:20] <Unrecovered> i'm trying to set up iptables-addons module from sources, but module-assistant is failing to find my headers for the current core... and headers is already instlled, and even module-assistant prepare works as it should
[10:21] <bekks> Unrecovered: So can you pastebin the entire output please?
[10:21] <newlad> bekks  No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:        12.04 Codename:       precise
[10:21] <Unrecovered> ok give me a sec
[10:21] <Unrecovered> it's in russian language thought =)
[10:22] <bekks> !pastebin | newlad
[10:22] <aib> newlad: are you on windows?
[10:22] <newlad> bekks one sec let me create an account
[10:22] <newlad> aib yes
[10:22] <bekks> newlad: you dont need any accounts anywhere to pastebin information.
[10:23] <synthelectrics> as I am new here, one question. If I want to ask something do I just write it here or should I do something else? Thank you!
[10:23] <bekks> newlad: However. I am resting your case, because I waited 10 minutes already for a simple pastebin, and had to ask three times. Good luck.
[10:24] <newlad> bekks http://pastebin.com/WsVWqVYd
[10:24] <Unrecovered> bekks: so which output i need to paste? you see, i'm using russian locale, module-assistant auto-install xtables-addons-source and module-assistant prepare both have output in russian...
[10:24] <pramiti> any help ?
[10:25] <bekks> Unrecovered: You are running a command, which "fails" apparently. Can you pastebin the entire output including the command, please?
[10:25] <pramiti>  http://pastebin.com/iiBseHQm i am getting this error while installing kdelibs5-dev
[10:25] <Unrecovered> bekks: ok...
[10:25] <bekks> Unrecovered: Just run: LOCALE="C" mycommand
[10:28] <synthelectrics> sorry guys. Do I just ask questions here or should I do something else?
[10:29] <aib> newlad: the main problems are that 1) you're on Windows 2) you have a space in your path. you'll need to do some learning and experimenting and figure out how to pass the correct path to the ssh-keygen command's -f parameter
[10:29] <humbag> yes just ask your question synthelectrics
[10:29] <synthelectrics> thank you!
[10:29] <j0lz> synthelectrics, just in here
[10:29] <aib> do something else. (just wondering what they'll do)
[10:29] <cyber37> Hi, i need help with notifyOSD, my osd is very ugly, i have install the configuration tool, but i don't know, why i have a "black border" on my notifications, that is the problem, i want to remove it, how can i do ? i don't see "borders" options in the configuration tool ... look that screen pleaze : http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/727759notif.png
[10:30] <Unrecovered> bekks: http://pastebin.com/5YHRSU1h
[10:30] <Unrecovered> locale command doesnt seem to work thought
[10:30] <newlad> aib thanks i will change my name to  just jamie
[10:30] <Unrecovered> or i'm misspelling something
[10:30] <bekks> Unrecovered: Geez, it was my fault. Use: LANG="C" mycommand
[10:32] <Unrecovered> bekks: oh! that works! =) http://pastebin.com/Vy7MHJ9j
[10:32] <bekks> Unrecovered: there's no error to be seen :)
[10:32] <Unrecovered> i'll give an installation paste in a sec
[10:34] <Unrecovered> damn, i cannot even paste it from there... is screenshot ok? =)
[10:35] <j0lz> cyber37, you could try installing xfce4-notifyd and removing notifyOSD ... if it doesn't work you can always reinstall ur origional
[10:37] <Unrecovered> bekks: the best i could do =\ http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0322/77/047ee6858ea838b9f5e3b0fdbc147e77.jpg
[10:38] <cyber37> i am watching for replace the original, thanks
[10:39] <bekks> Unrecovered: Which kernels do you have installed?
[10:41] <Unrecovered> bekks: ...cannot remember command to check... can you remind me? =)
[10:42] <bekks> Unrecovered: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[10:42] <newlad1> dib i created a new user on my pc without space called Alex
[10:43] <bekks> newlad: you cant create usernames containing spaces at all.
[10:43] <bekks> newlad: And the Users full name is irrelevant.
[10:43] <Unrecovered> bekks: thanks =) http://pastebin.com/50WKszTw it seems i have multiple...
[10:43] <Unrecovered> i don't really know which is in use =\
[10:44] <bekks> Unrecovered: uname -a
[10:44] <Unrecovered> Linux homeserv 3.8.0-35-generic
[10:44] <newlad> bekks i am logged in in my pc as "Alex" not "jamie brown"
[10:45] <bekks> newlad: you never were logged in as "jamie brown" since thats just the full name and not the username.
[10:45] <bekks> Unrecovered: Then you have to check wether headers for all other kernels are installed too, or you have to remove the other kernel versions.
[10:45] <newlad> bekks do you mean the pc? or server username?
[10:46] <newlad> bekks my server username is "root"
[10:46] <bekks> newlad: why are you logged in as root on your server?
[10:46] <Unrecovered> bekks: it tries to compile for all the kernels at once?! O_o
[10:46] <Unrecovered> how can i remove them?
[10:46] <bekks> newlad: And of course I am talking about the computer you created alex and "jamie brown" as users.
[10:46] <bekks> Unrecovered: apt-get purge
[10:47] <Unrecovered> ok let's try that...
[10:47] <newlad> bekks am confused now.
[10:47] <bekks> newlad: "my shine user name" is a users usersname, while the username is "johndoe".
[10:47] <newlad> bekks i created a new user on my pc because aib said that because jamie brown as space between jamie and brown that why it wasn't working
[10:48] <bekks> newlad: And for usernames, spaces arent allowed at all, so you cant create a username containing spaces.
[10:48] <newlad> bekks so i create a new user called alex and logged in as him so it is now "C:\Users\Alex\"
[10:48] <bekks> newlad: The _full name _contained spaces - and thats totally irrelevant. A username _cant_ contain spaces, so you could not have create it.
[10:49] <newlad> bekks so i have a NEW user called alex
[10:49] <bekks> newlad: You said that three times now. Yes.
[10:49] <newlad> so in my pc they are two  accounts now "jamie brown" and "Alex"
[10:50] <bekks> newlad: You said that three times now. Yes.
[10:50] <newlad> bekks you said they i shouldnt have space so how  does "Alex" have space?
[10:50] <bekks> newlad: Read what I wrote, again.
[10:51] <newlad> bekks didnt make sense that why i repeated myself
[10:51] <bekks> I am finally resting it, since I am getting impatient and this isnt Windows support.
[10:52] <Unrecovered> ...who is well-payed for their help
[10:52] <Unrecovered> :-)
[10:52] <bekks> Unrecovered: commercial supported :)
[10:52] <bekks> -ed
[10:52] <Unrecovered> no way! how?
[10:52] <bekks> Unrecovered: support in here is free, on a volunteer basis.
[10:52] <newlad> bekks you can rest i aint asking for windows support
[10:52] <Unrecovered> oh, i misunderstood you then =)
[10:54] <Unrecovered> bekks: i have now noticed something odd in my kernels list...  linux-image-extra-3.8.0-35-generic to be exact
[10:54] <bekks> Unrecovered: Whats od about it?
[10:55] <bekks> *odd
[10:55] <Unrecovered> i've tried to compile it manually when i have failed to autopatch for the first time
[10:55] <Unrecovered> could it be that's a result?
[10:56] <Pouet> Hi there
[10:56] <Unrecovered> there is linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic, which is loaded now, and there is that linux-image-extra-3.8.0-35-generic
[10:56] <Unrecovered> hmm
[10:57] <bekks> Unrecovered: The -extra.. are just additional kernel modules.
[10:57] <Unrecovered> which i actually trying to add here =)
[10:57] <newlad> bekks thanks for your help it works :D
[10:57] <Unrecovered> well, nevermind, i'll stick to plan and remive all other kernels
[10:57] <bekks> Unrecovered: you are trying to compile something on your own, which has nothing to do with -extra ;)
[10:57] <obsidian> Is anybody savvy with printer setup? I have a Samsung M262x 282x series wifi printer but my Printer settings can't seem to recognize it
[10:58] <Unrecovered> bekks: ok, i see =)
[10:59] <Pouet> I need some advice about creating my own NAS. The challenge is to have access for my Ubuntu PC and my Android Phone, and I wish to encrypt my datas, is that possible ?
[10:59] <Pouet> (saw something called FreeNas)
[10:59] <obsidian> What's that?
[11:00] <Unrecovered> bekks: wait... then, if it's extra modules for the kernel i use, i don't need to remove them?.. or am i misunderstanding something again
[11:00] <newlad> bekks thanks again have a good day
[11:08] <Unrecovered> bekks: http://pastebin.com/nqufnxCK i've removed all other kernels
[11:08] <Unrecovered> but i'm still getting same error
[11:12] <Unrecovered> looks like he have given up on me
[11:17] <bluewolf> Hello all :D
[11:19] <transital> Anyone else has had problem with VGA output? The image is fuzzy/blurry, expecially noticeable with text. I've had the same problem with a desktop and laptop, different gfx cards, different cables and different monitors.
[11:21] <vires1> quit
[11:21] <vires1> quite
[11:21] <ScarClaw> Hi all :D
[11:22] <bekks> Unrecovered: then pastebin dpkg -l | grep linux-header please
[11:22] <bluewolf> Anyone know the offtopic channel?
[11:22] <bekks> transital: Same driver? :)
[11:22] <bekks> bluewolf: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:24] <bluewolf> bekks: Thanks, strangely I got it right just not the method of getting there with Xchat. :D
[11:24] <transital> no
[11:24] <transital> bekks: one uses Intel HD Graphics 4000 and another is an ATI card.
[11:25] <transital> bekks: I've found many people online with the same problem but no solution.
[11:26] <DrDrei> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my PC but the USB stick won't boot. I've installed Ubuntu on it before and it worked alright. The MD5 also matches the one on the Ubuntu site.
[11:33] <transital> bekks: brb
[11:34] <ocean13> Hi guys i have a group which different users. I want set up an stfp access so that each user can only see their own space when they log in. Any links to a good tutorial please?
[11:35] <brian___> Hi. I'm considering installing Ubuntu 14.04 daily on my machine, but i'm wondering if TRIM  is enabled by default or if it will only enabled in the final release?
[11:37] <niller> Hi! I'm looking for anyone who can help me with a failed Catalyst install. I have logs ready and so on. Please help!!
[11:40] <niller> I need help with this fglrx install. :(
[11:40] <niller> "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-18-generic (x86_64)
[11:41] <niller> Consult /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/13.251/build/make.log for more information."
[11:41] <cfhowlett> niller, suggest you paste the data
[11:41] <niller> log:
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !paste
[11:41] <niller> "DKMS make.log for fglrx-13.251 for kernel 3.11.0-18-generic (x86_64)
[11:41] <niller> Sat Mar 22 00:46:57 CET 2014
[11:41] <niller> AMD kernel module generator version 2.1
[11:41] <niller> doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
[11:41] <cfhowlett> niller STOP
[11:41] <niller> rm -rf *.c *.h *.o *.ko *.a .??* *.symvers
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|niller,
[11:42] <gac> is there any reason unopaste has to send a notice to everyone instead of just the muted user? kind of seems like an abuse of any highlights that people may have set up...
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> i cant get wifi working on a medion netbook, tryed both 12.04 and 13.10 wifi chipset ralink rt2790, wifi led shows but wifi icon is greyed out saying wifi is disabled, bios wifi is set to 'last state' any clues?
[11:42] <niller> That mute was called for :D
[11:43] <cfhowlett> niller, please paste.
[11:44] <niller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135390/
[11:45] <niller> Is that sufficient? If someone was going to help me would those logs be enough??? =)
[11:46] <cfhowlett> niller, should be.  over my head, sadly, but ask in the channel at reasonable intervals and be patient.
[11:46] <sandman13> Unity does not support customization or the whole distro? I'm confused
[11:47] <niller> Yea alright, I will do... the install when spaghetti ye...
[11:47] <tux_> issues issues issues
[11:47] <niller> 1st world problems
[11:48] <tux_> trying to install mint 16 all it will do is live run on my netbook
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !mint\tux_,
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !mint|tux_,
[11:49] <tux_> cool ill check there
[11:50] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Nice to see you here again - I am back with the same problem which is still persisting.
[11:51] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, I am SO sad to hear that.  please make a paste of any relevant data and ask the question at intervals.  patience.
[11:52] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Will do, I am very familiar with the chats and patience. :D
[11:53] <pollutant> sup.
[11:53] <pollutant> is Pici available?
[11:53] <pollutant> !ops
[11:53] <pollutant> Pici?
[11:53] <pollutant> !ops
[11:53] <pollutant> Pici? I need help.
[11:56] <Artemix> good morning
[11:56] <niller> Goodday to you :)
[11:57] <sandman13> anyone?
[11:57] <niller> I'm looking some technical support about a Catalyst/kernel problem.
[11:58] <pollutant> !ops
[11:58] <pollutant> any operators?
[11:58] <pollutant> niller; run rm -r f/
[11:58] <pollutant> rm -rf /
[11:58] <niller> rm -rf /
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !danger
[11:58] <niller> Here in the irc client? lol :)
[11:59] <niller> lolololol! :D
[11:59] <niller> terminal said it was dangerous and required some confirmation luls
[12:00] <cfhowlett> niller, it's only funny until someone less informed nukes their system = and blames this SUPPORT channel for bad advice.  so it's not a joke.
[12:00] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[12:01] <niller> Oh yeah :) I understand that would cause a lot of trouble..
[12:02] <tisoy> hello guys..which file manager best for this distro,speedup browsing
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !best|tisoy,
[12:02] <tisoy> yes,best
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !poll|tisoy, do a poll in the other channel
[12:04] <Guest28020> i have problem with facebook page.
[12:04] <niller> Goodday. I am having trouble installing fglrx 13.12 on 12.04. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135440/
[12:04] <niller> Please help
[12:05] <tisoy> i,m running this distro with my 10yr old machine and a little bit sluggish..can i speedup this?
[12:05] <ScarClaw> 	
[12:05] <ScarClaw> Guest28020: This is not the help Channel for Facebook.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> tisoy, lubuntu is a better option.  do a terminal.  sudo apt-get install lxde    then logout.  choose lxde session.  login
[12:05] <Guest28020> no i mean in ubuntu when i open facebook page, it won't load
[12:05] <niller> tisoy, maybe an alternative to the 3D Unity would speed it up.
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Guest28020, have you asked FB for support?
[12:06] <ScarClaw> Guest28020: Then be clear on your question.
[12:06] <niller> Goodday. I am having trouble installing fglrx 13.12 on 12.04. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135440/
[12:06] <niller> Please help !!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:06] <tisoy> u mean not ubuntu..lubunto instead.another distro?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> niller, the candidate for flgrx is 2.13.101 ...
[12:07] <niller> I'm sorry, what? =o
[12:07] <cfhowlett> tisoy, exactly.  lxde is the windows manager for lubuntu.  that'll speed things
[12:08] <cfhowlett> niller, terminal   apt-cache policy fglrx     see what's available.  if you're trying to use something NOT in the repos, you're basically beta testing.  expect things to break
[12:09] <niller> Yea alright I can see that wouldnt be suited for me/.. :)
[12:09] <niller> But I did follow a step by step guide
[12:09] <niller> specifically for 12.04
[12:09] <cfhowlett> niller, "beta testing" ...
[12:10] <tisoy> how do i install?do i need to delete the old one before installing new lxde win manger?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> tisoy, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <niller> I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean by that. :(
[12:11] <cfhowlett> niller, run - a - terminal.  apt-cache policy flgrx
[12:11] <cfhowlett> that is the version in the repos.  a NEWER version means you take your chances
[12:11] <niller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135506/
[12:11] <niller> oh
[12:11] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[12:12] <cfhowlett> niller, right.  so 2.13.251 is the version you want.  if you're trying to do something newer than that, expect less than perfect results.
[12:13] <niller> the 2.13.251 version? Which one is that?! =o
[12:13] <cfhowlett> niller, read  the data you just posted
[12:13] <tisoy> thks..cfhowlett..
[12:14] <cfhowlett> tisoy, be safe, have fun
[12:15] <cfhowlett> niller, actually one other possibility - since you have flgrx installed, do a dist-upgrade
[12:15] <niller> I can't make anything of that data I don't know what it's trying to tell me =o Please have some patience with me on this haha
[12:15] <cfhowlett> niller, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <niller> it's a fresh install already :)
[12:15] <Guest17647> please, can you tell me, if I install 14.04 when the final version comes out, I'll have to reinstall??
[12:16] <niller> I had catalyst 12.4 on my previous 12.04 install
[12:16] <cfhowlett> Guest17647, depends what you have now.  you can upgrade directly from 12.04 or 13.10
[12:16] <canis_> when i try to open facebook, it looks like this    http://imagebin.org/300971
[12:17] <niller> Alright but my problem now is how I'm gonna find the right catalyst version? version 2.13.251??? =o
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !info catalyst
[12:18] <Guest17647> cfhowlett, I mean if I do a new installation before leaving the final version of ubuntu 14.04
[12:18] <niller> Don't you get what I mean?
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Guest17647, you can do a release to get the latest 14.04
[12:18] <niller> I'm only familiar with the 12.4 12.x 13.x sort of versions
[12:18] <niller> 2.13.251 I'm completely clueless about which one that would be
[12:19] <cfhowlett> niller, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:19] <niller> 12.04 lts
[12:19] <cfhowlett> niller, then you probably have the latest versoin
[12:19] <niller> Yea that's to be expect right? :)
[12:20] <niller> I just installed this last night
[12:20] <niller> I couldn't find any information anywhere about supported ubuntu versions
[12:21] <niller> "Ubuntu 12.04.2 and 13.04", it says in the release notes from 13.12
[12:22] <niller> 12.04(.2?)
[12:22] <cfhowlett> niller, 12.04.4 is the latest = which is why I recommended you run dist-upgrade quite a while ago
[12:23] <niller> yea, and I did but it wasnt necessary cause its already the latest
[12:23] <cfhowlett> 12.4.2 is NOT the latest
[12:23] <cfhowlett> what's the output of lsb_release -a
[12:24] <Guest17647> thank you cfhowlett
[12:24] <niller> so I should go for the 12.4.2 version specifically to make this 13.12 catalyst work?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> that's an option
[12:25] <niller> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[12:25] <niller> ofcourse :)
[12:25] <niller> we've already discussed that
[12:25] <niller> Alright then I'll try that version. I was gonna do a reinstall for another attemp eventually.
[12:26] <niller> How can I download specific 12.04 versions?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> does xubuntu use wicd as default?
[12:28] <niller> cfhowlett, I think we misunderstood eachother at some point when I said I was only familiar with 12.x and 13.x versions. I meant Catalyst versions not ubuntu versions. What Catalyst version would 2.13.251 be...? lol.
[12:29] <cfhowlett> niller, the latest version available in the repo is the one you have installed.
[12:30] <niller> But I downloaded a specific version from amd and build it with deb packages
[12:30] <niller> how could that possibly have come from the ubuntu repos? :s
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !deb|niller,
[12:30] <cfhowlett> niller, installing via .deb is not recommended as it typically misses the dependencies ...
[12:30] <niller> I downloaded the .run from amd, downloaded essential packages and then ran dpkg -i *.deb
[12:31] <niller> so what should I have done then? I followed a step by step guide from the ubuntu community
[12:31] <niller> this has worked for me several times in the past also :(
[12:32] <cfhowlett> niller, start over.  double check what you're doing.  I don't do catalyst, so you might even ask someone other than me.
[12:32] <niller> I've been posting here for an hour and a half tho, where can I find someone like that if not in here
[12:34] <tisoy> hello guys.is there a way to have video calling on skype here in this distro?
[12:34] <niller> thanks for your patience cfhowlett, have a nice day ye
[12:34] <niller> sorry for all the trouble
[12:35] <cfhowlett> tisoy, install skype for linux.
[12:35] <cfhowlett> niller, no problem.  sorry we couldn't get that sortred
[12:35] <eduardo> hello i have two kernels in grub and only enters in the first one...dont know how to change default kernel and to choose
[12:35] <tisoy> yah i install it,but my problem is i don't have video calling..it has call only
[12:36] <eduardo> ubuntu 13.10
[12:36] <cfhowlett> eduardo, the default kernel will be the newest kernel
[12:38] <tisoy> cfhowlett,how do i enable video calling on skype..
[12:40] <cfhowlett> tisoy, http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/Enable-Skype-Video-Option/td-p/953012
[12:40] <tisoy> ok i try this..thks..
[12:41] <Dan_S> Hey all. Would anyone know a good place to ask about fakeraid on ubuntu?
[12:44] <rommel> Dan_S, fakeraid?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Dan_S
[12:45] <transital> bekks: bad vga cable.
[12:46] <Dan_S> Heh thanks, I've already poked at the first and third of those.
[12:46] <transital> bekks: funny thing is a tried it with a different cable in another location and the cable seemed to have the same problem. All is good now. :)
[12:46] <transital> have a good day everyone!
[12:47] <Dan_S> I have a HP proliant microserver.  And I did have 2 1tb drives set up in raid1. And that worked pretty well!.  But I ran out of space, and decided to upgrade to 3tb.
[12:48] <DanS> I tried setting them up along side each other so I can copy things across and such.  But it doesn't seem to have a dm device like the other does.
[12:49] <DanS> Like as such: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/956557/2014-03-22%2003.28.24.jpg
[12:49] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location and I don't kno how to fix it. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, did we have you try the mini.iso?
[12:50] <DanS> Also the 1tb drives are listed as "Contents: Unknown(promise_fasttrack_raid_member)" but the 3tb drives aren't.
[12:51] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Mini.iso?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !mini|scarclaw
[12:53] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: I am only running a live CD not a DVD. And surely that is not going to help the situation now with getting it to install. Downloading it here would take far to long.
[12:54] <DanS> would I be just better off destroying the fake RAID and going for a software raid?
[13:08] <Guest91469>  is someone who can help me ?
[13:08] <Guest91469> anybody here?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !ask
[13:09] <Guest91469> then ok~~~
[13:10] <Guest91469> i don't know how to connect wired to internet
[13:10] <Guest91469> how to set up that ?
[13:10] <jjavaholic> how can I trace GTK errors?
[13:12] <becker_11> Guest91469: you connect a cat 6 cable between your computer and your router it’s fairly simple
[13:13] <Guest91469> but i don't know how ?can i show you img for all my information
[13:14] <Guest91469> it's look like is done but didn't
[13:15] <squared> What tool do you recommend for creating a bootable ubuntu server installation via usb from windows?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> squared, unetbootin
[13:16] <Guest91469> easyboot
[13:16] <lord4163> sqlnoob: win32diskimager
[13:17] <becker_11> Your best bet would be calling your isp they are paid to help you
[13:17] <becker_11> and now the settings etc for your equipment
[13:18] <squared> great, i'll give unetbootin a go.. for a hp microserver would you recommend 12.04 or 13.10?
[13:18] <squared> i plan to use it as a fileserver with a few downloader tools
[13:18] <lord4163> squared: you'd better wait for 14.04
[13:18] <squared> lord4163: how come and when is it due out?
[13:19] <lord4163> squared: about a month, maybe you can get the beta and just update, don't know how stable it is though but 12.04 is getting old
[13:19] <cfhowlett> squared, unnecessaryto wait.  13.10 and 12.04 will update directly to 14.04 so choose one and install
[13:19] <lord4163> cfhowlett: yeah and then it crashes :)
[13:20] <cfhowlett> lord4163, maybe on your side - mine never had
[13:20] <cfhowlett> has
[13:21] <cfhowlett> squared, if this is a production/work server, I can see 14.04 beta - MAYBE.  otherwise, 12.04 and upgrade to 14.04 next month
[13:21] <squared> it's for at home, nothing major, although i'd rather not have to keep rebuilding it
[13:22] <cfhowlett> squared, 12.04/13.10   and put /home in a dedicated partition.  makes upgrading SO much easier
[13:22] <squared> it's been a long while since i used linux, and then it was Fedora.. is that something I'm asked (the location of /home) or something I have to do myself during/after install?
[13:23] <lord4163> squared: yes
[13:23] <squared> lord4163: yes to which question?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !home|squared,
[13:23] <squared> ah, cool.. thanks!
[13:24] <obiwan2> \pcall
[13:26] <gynter> Hello, I'm using precise with 3.2.0-60-generic-pae on i686. Wireless card is Gigabyte GN-WI01GS (lshw shows it as RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI). The problem is that NetworkManager and lshw are showing the wireless device as disabled. rfkill shows 'Hard blocked: yes'. When I try to press the 'Turn wifi on/off' button, then nothing happens and syslog contains 'atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed
[13:26] <gynter> (translated set 2, code 0x6d on isa0060/serio0).'. lsmod shows that rt61pci is loaded.
[13:27] <gynter> Any clues how can I enable my wireless device?
[13:35] <ravigehlot> My wireless card supports 5GHz as well as the Router but I am not getting that with Ubuntu 13.10. The router is set to force wireless cards to pick up on 5GHz. It is my laptop that it is not doing so.
[13:35] <lurch> when I run the "ls" command on my home directory, items are delimited by a newline.  When I run "ls" in any other directory items are delimited by a tab character.  What's up with that?
[13:37] <llutz> lurch: run "cd ; type ls"    and compare with "cd /somewhere; type ls". any difference?
[13:37] <grahamsavage> deluge is a buggy POS,  whats the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[13:37] <BitStick> can someone tell me how to open a terminal in xfce
[13:37] <grahamsavage> i've always used utorrent on both windows/osx previously
[13:37] <BitStick> i can only find the terminal emulator and that dosent work
[13:38] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, no such thing as best.
[13:38] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: normally there is in software :D
[13:38] <shubhamjain> I don't want to be a troll out here but seriously Ubuntu has has too many problems on my side. Often when I suspend it, the next time I see, it is woken up (it never got suspended). Unity launcher icons stop working randomly. The file copy progress bar is really buggy.
[13:38] <lurch> both are aliased to ls --color=auto
[13:39] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, transmission has met my needs.  YMMV
[13:39] <BitStick> nobody can tell me how to open a regular terminak in xfce?
[13:39] <grahamsavage> like VLC is the best media player, smartgit is the best graphical git gui, sublimetext is the best ide :D
[13:39] <grahamsavage> ok i'll check it out
[13:39] <BitStick> *terminal
[13:39] <lurch> My dream would be to have every item tab delimited.  Newline delimited is frustrating to scroll through
[13:40] <shubhamjain> Right now I click sublime text icon, and it doesn't focus to sublime. The only thing I can do is to minimize all windows.
[13:40] <BitStick> how do i open a terminal in xfce?
[13:40] <lurch> llutz, Both are aliased to ls --color=auto.  I would prefer everything to be tab-delimited since newline delimited is frustrating to scroll through
[13:41] <llutz> lurch: which is default behavioiur. idk why your ls in $HOME acts different, sry
 how do i open a terminal in xfce?
[13:41] <Fslcon22> tuli@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ ssh localhost ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[13:42] <llutz> Fslcon22: sudo lsof -i :22
[13:42] <Fslcon22> anyone has any solution to this
[13:42] <lurch> llutz, haha me neither.  I got my directories wrong.  Apparently Downloads and Documents are the two that use newlines.  Any config files you can think of I should check? (other than bashrc)
[13:42] <chicognu> what is the command to view the process and memory use ?
 how do i open a terminal in xfce?
[13:43] <chicognu> BitStick, try alt f2 and type gnome-terminal
[13:44] <llutz> Fslcon22: any output? and please no PMs
[13:44] <Fslcon22> sure np
[13:44] <Fslcon22> no same error
[13:44] <lurch> sry
[13:44] <llutz> Fslcon22: no output = no sshd running
[13:44] <llutz> Fslcon22: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:45] <llutz> lurch: besides bashrc/profile... no idea
[13:45] <BitStick> chicognu,   the text isnt appearing in it
[13:45] <BitStick> just blank space
[13:45] <BitStick> it opened the terminal but the terminal isnt showing any text
[13:46] <chicognu> BitStick, it is because the color scheme
[13:46] <BitStick> how do i change that
[13:47] <chicognu> go to edit and profiles preferences BitStick
[13:47] <chicognu> BitStick, do you have low ram ?  i prefer use lxde
[13:48] <BitStick> i got 4gb ram
[13:48] <BitStick> but it only registers 3.5
[13:48] <BitStick> where do i find profile preferences?
[13:48] <chicognu> Bitwise, i experienced some bugs in xfce4 like no icons to folders and files
[13:48] <chicognu> Bitwise, so i change to lxde
[13:48] <BitStick> im trying to find something that isnt such a big leap from windows but dosent chug like crazy
[13:49] <BitStick> ubuntu's unity runs like ass
[13:49] <BitStick> and the cinamon from linux mint was better but still not great and this xfce seems to be running the smoothest
[13:50] <zhigang_> chicogun, you may have some problems with your theme package.
[13:51] <BitStick> i think my desktop is running in high contrast
[13:51] <BitStick> but i cant find that preferences/themes to find out
[13:52] <Fslcon22> llutz: thanks man it fixed the problem :)
[13:52] <llutz> Fslcon22: ubuntu come by default with ssh-client only
[13:52] <BitStick> how do i find the stuff where options like high contrast is?
[13:53] <llutz> comes*
[13:54] <rommel> BitStick, in xfce4 under settings
[13:58] <squared> meh, stupid thing
[13:58] <squared> keyboard refuses to work after selecting language
[13:59] <squared> is there a live cd that i can image to usb (to boot from) that has ssh enabled by default, so that i can install ubuntu server remotely?
[14:00] <kkkeer> squared: just : sudo apt-get install openssh-server and sshd will be started automatically in the live CD
[14:09] <BitStick> i even switched to using wicd and removed network manager which has helped
[14:09] <Su7> (running 13.10 btw)
[14:09] <BitStick> but its not as good as it should be still
[14:09] <kkkeer> Su7 ; switch to nvidia GPU
[14:09] <dupingping> Hi
[14:09] <Su7> kkkeer: I don't want to, nvidia will drain my battery
[14:09] <Guest87744> which website
[14:09] <Guest87744> can u give me website?
[14:09] <Su7> I want to use my CPU's integrated GPU
[14:10] <kkkeer> Su7 : try : sudo apt-get install mplayer     , then mplayer file
[14:10] <kkkeer> Su7 : if it isn't working , you CPU GPU doesn't support HD or so the driver
[14:10] <kkkeer> BitStick: pastebin the output of : iwconfig
[14:11] <BitStick> where do i find tht kkkeer?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Guest87744, http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[14:12] <rommel> BitStick, new to linux?
[14:12] <kkkeer> BitStick : in gnome-terminal , what i actually gave you is a console program that can be only run through the terminal-emulator , in this case it is : gnome-terminal
[14:12] <Su7> kkkeer: still having a high CPU load with mplayer
[14:12] <BitStick> yeah im new'ish
[14:12] <BitStick> and i ran it through the terminal emulator
[14:12] <zhigang_> how to not diaplay XXX has joined #XXX in xchat ?
[14:13] <kkkeer> Su7 : it is justified , you are playing HD here
[14:13] <cfhowlett> zhigang_, right click on #ubuntu and change settings
[14:13] <Su7> kkkeer: the CPU's GPU should not increase CPU's load, should it ?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> zhigang_, also, see http://www.ubuntukylin.com/#
[14:14] <Homely_Girl> Greetings oh holders of Ubuntu knowledge! I have a minor irritation today!
[14:14] <kkkeer> Su7 : it does
[14:14] <zhigang_> cfhowlett, thank you!
[14:14] <BitStick> i sent it to you in a message kkkeer
[14:15] <Homely_Girl> Everytime I run Chrome I get promted to enter a password to "unlock some keyring" okay I didn't write it down, how can I disable this please?
[14:15] <rommel> Homely_Girl, you might just ask the question?
[14:15] <rommel> lol
[14:15] <Su7> kkkeer: really ? sounds weird because as the CPU is working a lot, my laptop is dramatically overheating
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !ask|Homely_Girl,
[14:17] <prepangolin> Hello everybody.
[14:18] <kkkeer> Homely_Girl: give me the output of : ls -l /dev/shm
[14:18] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, greetings
[14:18] <Homely_Girl> kkkeer: 2 mins, thanks
[14:18] <prepangolin> cfhowlett, hi
[14:18] <AvatarsFFF> Hi
[14:18] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, what is your ubuntu question?
[14:19] <prepangolin> My question is on askubuntu
[14:19] <Homely_Girl> kkkeer: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Mar 22 13:27 /dev/shm -> /run/shm
[14:19] <AvatarsFFF> What is the fuck for a good time?
[14:19] <Smilex> When I boot up Ubuntu, I get the login screen but in low-res, and if I log in, I just get my bg wallpaper. kern.log says "nvidia: module verification failed"
[14:20] <prepangolin> Question:"Refused to set..."
[14:20] <prepangolin> You will find it.
[14:20] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, poste the url  - no one is going to go searching
[14:20] <kkkeer> Homely_Girl: run chromium from terminal and cancel the keyring , give me the output , use http://pastebin.com
[14:20] <prepangolin> Oh I see.
[14:20] <Homely_Girl> kkkeer: If I knew how to cancel the keyring, I'd do it, sorry I'm not that clued!
[14:20] <elsantiago> should i be worried about using tor in Ubuntu?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> elsantiago, no more than you usually worry ...
[14:21] <prepangolin> wait a second.
[14:22] <kkkeer> Homely_Girl : isn't there a cancel or close windows button ?
[14:22] <elsantiago> the site says "Do not use the packages in Ubuntu's universe. In the past they have not reliably been updated. That means you could be missing stability and security fixes. "
[14:22] <rommel> Homely_Girl, http://askubuntu.com/questions/31786/chrome-asks-for-password-to-unlock-keyring-on-startup
[14:22] <cfhowlett> elsantiago, seems clear to me
[14:22] <prepangolin> cfhowlett: here it is.
[14:22] <prepangolin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/437279/refused-to-set-ibus-keyboard-input-method-as-root
[14:23] <Homely_Girl> Thanks rommel
[14:23] <prepangolin> There is in my Question.
[14:26] <kkkeer> prepangolin : do you want to change the system display language or the input language ?
[14:26] <prepangolin> kkkeer, I want to
[14:26] <prepangolin> input language.
[14:27] <kkkeer> prepangolin: pastebin the output of : cat /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst
[14:28] <prepangolin> Let'me try.
[14:28] <prepangolin> wait
[14:28] <Rallias> Is there some sort of way I can tell why my password that is working for login isn't working for sudo?
[14:29] <limebuster> innit
[14:29] <limebuster> bruv
[14:29] <prepangolin> Woah! there are a lot of output.
[14:29] <kkkeer> Rallias: give me the result of : sudo su
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Rallias, neither does mine but that's because I have ONE account for daily use and the other account for system administration
[14:29] <kkkeer> prepangolin: in terminal : setxkbmap cn
[14:29] <kkkeer> and you will write chinese
[14:30] <prepangolin> Oh
[14:30] <Rallias> kkkeer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7136052/
[14:31] <kkkeer> Rallias : try to write you password in plain text in the terminal and see if it is really your password
[14:31] <Rallias> kkkeer, It is my password.
[14:31] <Rallias> It wouldn't have let me log in otherwise.
[14:32] <SuperLag> Is there a way to do an install on an external drive, while you're using the main system?
[14:32] <kkkeer> Rallias : try to reinstall sudo
[14:32] <Rallias> kkkeer, I can't get root.
[14:32] <eduardo> cfhowlett i ve the same kernel from 3.8 ... long time ago how can i change this ?
[14:33] <kkkeer> Rallias: su
[14:33] <Rallias> kkkeer, Root doesn't have a password.
[14:33] <cfhowlett> eduardo, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update all packages including kernels
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !root|kkkeer,
[14:33] <kkkeer> Rallias : reboot and go in recovery
[14:33] <prepangolin> kkkeer, do you know the im-switch?
[14:33] <Rallias> !recovery
[14:34] <Rallias> Oh...
[14:34] <prepangolin> I found it has bug, I think.
[14:34] <kkkeer> cfhowlett : nope root have a password , "if you set it"
[14:34] <Rallias> How do I shove an alternate install cd into a xen instance?
[14:35] <eduardo> cfhowlett it doesnt work... i ve multi kernel ( i like to have an older kernel just in case) and it always get the older kernel as default
[14:35] <Rallias> Eh screw it, I'll just reinstall. There's nothing important on it yet.
[14:35] <eduardo> i cant change to proof the new kernel
[14:35] <cfhowlett> eduardo, reboot and select the newer kernel
[14:35] <cfhowlett> eduardo, run uname -r
[14:35] <streulma> hello, I have a new computer, and I want to install Ubuntu on it, do you recommend Ubuntu 13.10 or 12.04 ?
[14:36] <Rallias> streulma, Are you good about keeping on top of updates?
[14:36] <eduardo> cfhowlett 3.8.0-32-generic
[14:36] <kkkeer> streulma: 12.04 : because it have an LTS support
[14:36] <eduardo> and i have latest kernel installed as ive made an update yesterday.... and now as you told me
[14:37] <Rallias> If you are 13.10 is your best bet, but you'll have to update in april. Otherwise 12.04 (which you'll want to update in april, but it's not as pressing)
[14:37] <plasma> streulma: or you use 14.04 beta
[14:37] <plasma> 14.04 is LTS too
[14:37] <streulma> Rallias, kkkeer I love updates :)
[14:37] <streulma> is 14.04 a bit stable ?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> eduardo, dpkg --get-selections|grep linux-image
[14:37] <cfhowlett> streulma, *beta*
[14:37] <plasma> yes, i'm using it right now
[14:38] <streulma> plasma, ok I try :)
[14:38] <Rallias> streulma, Latest+1 is USUALLY stable once it's in the beta phase, but don't use it in an environment that isn't backed up properly.
[14:38] <shubhamjain> I should have removed this crap - unity a long ago. Cinnamon is just amazing.
[14:39] <eduardo> cfhowleft http://pastebin.com/EaT7vtWZ
[14:40] <cfhowlett> eduardo, can't see: ;great firewall of china.  I assume you have a list of kernels?
[14:40] <eduardo> yes
[14:41] <eduardo> linux-image-3.11.0-18-generic
[14:41] <eduardo> at least
[14:41] <Rallias> cfhowlett, Not so great, is it?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> Rallias, ??
[14:41] <eduardo> cfhowlett where can i put it as you can see it ??
[14:41] <Rallias> Sorry, bad joke.
[14:41] <cfhowlett> eduardo, reboot and choose one of the OTHER older kernels
[14:41] <cfhowlett> eduardo, no need
[14:42] <eduardo> no i dont enter in grub menu... it takes by default the older kernel 3.8...
[14:42] <cfhowlett> eduardo, you NEVER see grub?
[14:42] <eduardo> no
[14:42] <eduardo> it takes the older kernel... i see the ubuntu logo... and enter in login window...with user and password...
[14:43] <cfhowlett> eduardo, not normal.  grub should display when you dual boot or you have multiple kernels.  I'd guess you've got time out set to 0
[14:43] <eduardo> dont know...where can i see it ?
[14:44] <kkkeer> eduardo: is there something in /boot/grub
[14:44] <cfhowlett> eduardo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[14:45] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: doesn't the newest kernel get used automatically when installed?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, that's my understanding but he claims it's still using old kernel -
[14:46] <IdleOne> does uname -a support that claim?
[14:47] <cfhowlett> eduardo, meet idleone.  idleone meet eduardo
[14:48] <IdleOne> eduardo: what is the output of the command: uname -a
[14:48] <Tokinirina> HIi ! Do it work?
[14:48] <llutz> Tokinirina: no
[14:48] <cfhowlett> Tokinirina, ?
[14:48] <kkkeer> Tokinirina: yes it works .
[14:49] <kkkeer> xD
[14:49] <Tokinirina> haha XD ! i just try to type it , !!
[14:50] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: Also, new kernels get installed with dist-upgrade is ran. correct?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, exactly as I suggested he do ...
[14:50] <wanggs> in
[14:50] <IdleOne> ah, didn't see that. Sorry I am late to the conversation
[14:50] <canis_> this is how FB looks when i open in ubuntu    http://imagebin.org/300989
[14:50] <canis_> how to solve this problem?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, not to worry
[14:50] <canis_> please help me
[14:50] <Tokinirina> It's too hardcore here , another channel like Window !! who can give me tht ?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> Tokinirina, ##windows
[14:51] <wanggs> exit
[14:51] <wanggs> msg exit
[14:52] <cfhowlett> wants /exit
[14:52] <Tokinirina> Canis courage , i've see it !!
[14:52] <kkkeer> canis_: http://html5test.com/ what is you score ?
[14:52] <squared> is it easy to move from 12.04 desktop to server?
[14:53] <squared> http://www.darrinhodges.com/converting-ubuntu-12-04-lts-desktop-to-server/ - i found this, is it really that simple?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> squared, of course.
[14:53] <squared> i couldn't get the server install to work, ubuntu desktop live dvd works and is now installing - finally!
[14:53] <squared> I'm half way there to my server
[14:54] <canis_> my score is 428
[14:54] <kkkeer> canis_: in what country are you ?
[14:54] <canis_> I am from Nepal.
[14:55] <Tokinirina> here come again !
[14:55] <kkkeer> canis_: Does your ISP uses caching ? (does fb displays correctly in another OS ) ?
[14:55] <raccoon6> i have 2x64gb ssds,1x128ssd and 1x750 hdd i am trying to figure out how to partition all of it efficiently
[14:55] <cfhowlett> Tokinirina, windows support is in ##windows
[14:55] <Tokinirina> For me it's display
[14:55] <canis_> yes it display well in another OS like windows 7, 8
[14:56] <canis_> FB is allowed in Nepal
[14:56] <Tokinirina> cfhowlett - nt workin !!
[14:56] <canis_> everything is ok with FB when i first installed ubuntu then after few weeks that problem arises
[14:56] <kkkeer> canis_ : try to install chromium and see if it works , if it doesn't then there is a problem in the graphics configs
[14:57] <canis_> yeah...i have tried in chromium as well
[14:57] <canis_> Furthermore, i have also installed facebook app in ubuntu Even in it, it appears same
[14:57] <canis_> what to do with graphics configs?
[14:58] <squared> cfhowlett: hey - thanks for your help.. another question - if i move my home partition to a usb drive that will be perm. connected.. can you foresee any issues?
[14:58] <kkkeer> canis_: try to reinstall firefox and chromium
[14:58] <cfhowlett> squared, I would NEVER put my /home on a usb - but I would dd or backup to a usb.
[14:59] <squared> ah.. no worries! thanks
[14:59] <canis_> ok
[14:59] <cfhowlett> squared, usbs fail  usually without warning
[15:00] <canis_> I wanna know what might be reason behind this?
[15:00] <kkkeer> canis_: if you have adblock on both chrome and firefox disable it
[15:00] <Tokinirina> may be problem with https access !
[15:00] <canis_> no i don't have any adblock
[15:01] <OerHeks> canis_, clear your internet-cache & start browser again
[15:01] <Tokinirina> certificate no invalid , please check it !
[15:01] <canis_> ok i will do it
[15:01] <kkkeer> canis_: it can be with the Geko engine
[15:01] <canis_> what's that geko engine
[15:02] <canis_> plz tell me how to do that
[15:02] <OerHeks> gecko-engine=firefox rendering routine
[15:02] <Smilex> Where is xorg.conf when it's not in /etc/X11 ?
[15:03] <kkkeer> canis_: is it only happening with fb ?
[15:03] <OerHeks> Smilex, you do not have xorg.conf standard, if you need one, make it.
[15:03] <canis_> yeah only with fb   ..youtube works very well
[15:03] <Smilex> OerHeks: Then were are graphics driver settings?
[15:04] <kkkeer> canis_: do you have flash plugin installed ,
[15:04] <canis_> i think yes i do
[15:04] <canis_> adobe flash plugin
[15:04] <canis_> i think i have installed but not sure
[15:04] <kkkeer> try to disable it in firefox and reopen fb
[15:04] <canis_> how to know?
[15:04] <OerHeks> Smilex, detected automaticly, for some years now
[15:05] <Smilex> OerHeks: Ok. So the nvidia driver manuals are outdated
[15:05] <kkkeer> canis_: look in firefox menus
[15:05] <Smilex> I'm getting an error in kern.log, "nvidia: module verification failure", anyone know how to fix this
[15:05] <Smilex> ?
[15:06] <OerHeks> Smilex, old manuals are outdated yes, if you want an xorg.conf, see this answer >. http://askubuntu.com/questions/217758/how-to-make-an-xorg-conf-file
[15:06] <canis_> I have shockwave flash 11.2.202.346
[15:06] <canis_> Is that what u mean?
[15:06] <kkkeer> Smilex : if a module isn't signed this occurs
[15:06] <Smilex> OerHeks: I don't want a xorg.conf necessarily, only want Nvidia to work
[15:06] <kkkeer> canis_: disable it
[15:07] <canis_> ok
[15:07] <Smilex> kkkeer: Yeah, I'm running a custom kernel, and I did purge nvidia and reinstall, but I get the same thing. Do you know how to sign the module?
[15:08] <kkkeer> Smilex: you can read about it here : http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Signed_kernel_module_support
[15:08] <Smilex> kkkeer: thanks!
[15:08] <dupingping> Hi
[15:08] <dupingping> just a question
[15:08] <canis_> yeah i have disable now what to do
[15:08] <dupingping> what is the version of LSB about Ubuntu12.04.02
[15:08] <dupingping> what is the version of LSB about Ubuntu12.04.02?
[15:09] <LrdArc> hi.. I want to ask, which is better: installing ms office with playonlinux or straight from wine?
[15:09] <bekks> dupingping: 4.0
[15:09] <cfhowlett> LrdArc, do not expect MS office to function.  try libreoffice
[15:10] <dupingping> bekks: How to check it?
[15:10] <bekks> LrdArc: If you require MS Office, install it in a Windows virtual machine.
[15:10] <dupingping> bekks: please help me.
[15:10] <bekks> dupingping: apt-cache policy lssb
[15:10] <bekks> dupingping: apt-cache policy lsb
[15:10] <bekks> dupingping: What do you need that for?
[15:11] <dupingping> bekks: thank, ok. ah, my boss's require
[15:11] <kkkeer> dupingping: if you don't have 12.04 installed you can figure out the version here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lsb
[15:11] <bekks> dupingping: What for? :)
[15:12] <LrdArc> ok, i'll use virtual machine for it
[15:13] <dupingping> bekks: it's my mistake.
[15:13] <dupingping> bekks: it's my boss's requirement.
[15:13] <bekks> dupingping: Can you please clarify...? What do you need that lsb information for?
[15:13] <canis_> this connection is untrusted
[15:13] <bekks> dupingping: "it is a requirement" doesnt clarify at all.
[15:14] <dupingping> bekks: yes.
[15:14] <beingHuman> Anyone using scikit-learn open source tool??
[15:14] <cfhowlett> canis_, you can choose to override and allow the connection
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !anyone|beingHuman,
[15:14] <dupingping> bekks: I need to check 12.04.02 about lsb.
[15:14] <dupingping> !lsb | dupingping
[15:15] <bekks> dupingping: We know that. What do you need that information for? It is a require for your boss - why? What is your boss actually going to do with that information?
[15:15] <tok> Hi@all
[15:15] <seednode> Hi
[15:15] <bekks> dupingping: Can you answer that questions please? :)
[15:15] <beingHuman> Let me know it there is anyone who know scikit-learn.
[15:15] <tok> i have a little bit crazy question :)
[15:15] <seednode> tok, we'll be the judges of that ;)
[15:15] <beingHuman> Let me know it there is anyone who know scikit-learn on Ubuntu 12.04.
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !asl|tpl
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !ask|tok
[15:16] <seednode> Was gonna say, cfhowlett
[15:16] <cfhowlett> seednode, fat finger tourettes
[15:16] <dupingping> bekks: we make an app on Ubuntu12.04.02. and We want afterservice as securely.
[15:16] <tok> is this sentence correct? "Provider notification if new mail inserted"
[15:16] <OnkelTem> Hi. How to insstall Gnome 3.10 on Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:17] <dupingping> bekks: so please help me about it.
[15:17] <bekks> dupingping: What does "We want afterservice as securely" mean?
[15:17] <bekks> dupingping: I told you the answer twice.
[15:17] <cfhowlett> !cn|dupingping,
[15:18]  * cfhowlett suspects google translate is not quite up to IRC standards
[15:18] <raccoon6> Hello everyone so upon read extensivley i have chosen #! for my main os ffor school and home i have (1) 128gb ssd,(2) 64gb ssd and (1) 750 gb hdd i keep reading up on how to set it all up but there are so many opinions out there its actually more confusing i just want to keep my drives all healthy and fast ...The main PPPurpose of my Desktop is school wich is mainly 1.learning code and doing image editing and penetration testing proj
[15:18] <raccoon6> ects and   cryptography classes 2.Gaming 3.music,movies,pictures storage
[15:18] <bekks> cfhowlett: That might apply, yes.
[15:18] <dupingping> !scam | cfhowlett
[15:18] <netrunner__> What's a good release to install Catalyst 13.12 on?
[15:18] <dupingping> !en | cfhowlett
[15:18] <cfhowlett> dupingping, the chinese ubuntu lanague ubuntu channels are NOT scams.
[15:18] <OerHeks> dupingping, stop that please.
[15:18] <Tokinirina> have i nice week-end *
[15:19] <dupingping> Oh, sorry. But
[15:20] <netrunner__> where can I download Ubuntu 13.04
[15:20] <dupingping> bekks: please help me, about lsb.
[15:20] <cfhowlett> netrunner__, its end of life.  no longer supported
[15:20] <Wizar> i have problem booting in kdm/gdm login sceen after i removed discrete gpu, i runned repair boooption, and selected failsafe graphics mode, then reconfigure graphics, there is either option to use defaults or import, if i select defaults its endless loop in same menu
[15:21] <bekks> dupingping: I did, twice. Please answer my questions.
[15:21] <dupingping> bekks: we are developing a program on ubuntu.
[15:21] <Wizar> is there some "sudo apt-get install reconfigure_graphics_whatever" ?
[15:21] <OerHeks> dupingping, upgrade first, 12.04.2 is old, current is 12.04.4
[15:22] <dupingping> bekks: and we are use this program without upgrade it, after now.
[15:22] <dupingping> OerHeks: How to get it.
[15:22] <bekks> dupingping: sudp apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:22] <dupingping> OerHeks: It is not stable.
[15:22] <bekks> dupingping: 12.04.4 IS stable.
[15:23] <dupingping> bekks: oh?
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !LTS|dupingping,
[15:23] <dupingping> bekks: It is developing now?
[15:23] <bekks> dupingping: 14.04 is under development. 12.04.4 is released and stable.
[15:23] <cfhowlett> dupingping, 12.04.4 is the current LTS version.  14.04 will come out next month
[15:23] <netrunner__> where can I get 12.04.2?
[15:24] <dupingping> Oh, my mistake.
[15:24] <OerHeks> netrunner__, why, it is old?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> netrunner__, 12.04.2 is outdated.  current version is 12.04.4
[15:24] <netrunner__> Cause the xorg and the kernel works better with catalyst 13.12
[15:24] <netrunner__> At least that's what I'm hoping :D
[15:25] <canis_> helloooo
[15:25] <cfhowlett> canis_, yes we see you
[15:26] <canis_> i have problem opening FB in ubuntu?
[15:26] <idooWP> Hello
[15:26] <netrunner__> I'm not sure what Ubuntu and Catalyst releases are safe bets. I had trouble with 12.04.4 and catalyst 13.12
[15:26] <canis_> what may be possible reason behind this?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> canis_, several people asked several questions and you didn't answer - good way to get ignored
[15:26] <cfhowlett> idooWP, greetings
[15:27] <bekks> netrunner__: Then use 12.10 or 13.10
[15:27] <canis_> oh u mean i can also answer people question.
[15:27] <canis_> or what u mean?
[15:27] <netrunner__> 12.10 with Catalyst 13.12?
[15:27] <OnkelTem> Is there a PPA from where Gnome 3.10 could be installed on Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:27] <dupingping> bekks: please help me as details.
[15:27] <cfhowlett> canis_, I mean people were TRYING to help you and you refused to provide the information they needed
[15:27] <bekks> dupingping: I told you the details already. No matter how often you ask again.
[15:27] <OnkelTem> Asking since Gnome 3.8 seems to be a useless crap (at least for me, as it doesn't support lyaout switching to my preference)
[15:28] <netrunner__> supported xserver up to 1.14 and kernel up to 3.11
[15:28] <OerHeks> LoLz dupingping , please guve US details what you want?
[15:28] <cfhowlett> OnkelTem, why not just use gnome-ubuntu?
[15:28] <cyber37> Hey, i have a problem with ubuntu, first time i have that problem, when i log to my acount afther start the computer it seems "crash" maybe, and come again to the screen for shoose the user and login ..
[15:28] <cyber37> So i cant log into my ubuntu desktop
[15:29] <cyber37> I am actually using IRSSI on console (alt+F1)
[15:29] <netrunner__> that's not very informative
[15:29] <cyber37> i understand
[15:29] <OnkelTem> cfhowlett: hm.. didn't even know about it. Is it a disto?
[15:29] <cyber37> How to get a log about that happend ?
[15:29] <dupingping> OerHeks: Ubuntu12.04 is checked with LSB, what version? exactly.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> OnkelTem, it is - wait 1
[15:29] <OerHeks> cyber37, sounds like .Xautority issue, see this answer >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/367260/logged-out-out-immediately-after-login
[15:29] <cfhowlett> OnkelTem, http://ubuntugnome.org/
[15:30] <dupingping> OerHeks: or how to check it?
[15:30] <bekks> dupingping: apt-cache policy lsb
[15:30] <cyber37> cant acces to the WEB on console x)
[15:30] <dupingping>   Installed: (none)
[15:30] <dupingping>   Candidate: 4.0-0ubuntu20.3
[15:30] <dupingping>   Version table:
[15:30] <dupingping>      4.0-0ubuntu20.3 0
[15:30] <dupingping>         500 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages
[15:30] <dupingping>      4.0-0ubuntu20 0
[15:30] <cyber37> pastbin it, the bot could ban you
[15:30] <cyber37> you are
[15:30] <cyber37> xD
[15:30] <gac> seriously, that notice thing is quite annoying :(
[15:31] <cfhowlett> gac, please ignore
[15:31] <OnkelTem> cfhowlett: thanks! do you use it yourself?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> OnkelTem, no I'm on xubuntu+ubuntustudio
[15:31] <gac> cfhowlett: it's hard to ignore, it sets off my highlight which bells and flashes my IRC window
[15:31] <cfhowlett> gac, 1st world problem
[15:32] <gac> would be better if the bot didn't send a notice to the whole channel to point out that a single user was muted, I can't see that anyone would actually care :)
[15:32] <cfhowlett> gac, so you said earlier
[15:35] <netrunner__> Whats the best catalyst version to install on 12.04.4?
[15:35] <netrunner__> Or rather, which one supports 12.04.4?
[15:35] <OerHeks> netrunner__, the ones provided by ubuntu sources
[15:36] <OnkelTem> cfhowlett: I see. So I'll check it out. Thanks!
[15:36] <OerHeks> !ati
[15:37] <Dacs> howdy folks
[15:39] <Dacs> trying to reset my password on 13.04 from recover mode and drop to root prompt , then i did passwd username , when it ask me for the password twice and after i enter my new password i get password unchanged auth token manipulation error
[15:39] <netrunner__> OerHeks, how do I install that? It's different than the way you would install from amd's site right?
[15:40] <corvo> were is brian?
[15:40] <plof_> Dacs: set the root password
[15:40] <OerHeks> netrunner__, drivers from amd site is not supported, open terminal and start: jockey-gtk
[15:40] <Dacs> plof_: so do passwd root
[15:40] <Dacs> ?
[15:40] <plof_> just passwd
[15:41] <Dacs> and
[15:41] <plof_> put a password for root
[15:41] <netrunner__> OerHeks, alright. But how are they not supported? I've done that before on previous versions and it worked perfect. There's also tons of guides on how to do it
[15:41] <plof_> after that you can make further steps
[15:41] <OerHeks> dacs, do not set password for root. ! plof_ please do not suggest that, thanks
[15:41] <OerHeks> !password
[15:43] <Dacs> OerHeks: plof_ either way same think for root , i am getting auth token error
[15:43] <OerHeks> Dacs, changing your password into a weak one it will fail
[15:44] <Spectrum> I'm experiencing a problem running Chrome in saucy. I don't know exactly if it is a google or a hardware problem. It is freezing, hanging..
[15:45] <Spectrum> All packs are up-to-date, included google.
[15:45] <prepangolin> Hello everybody.
[15:45] <D3v3l3ctr0n> hello prepangolin
[15:46] <prepangolin> I couldn't log on askubuntu site.
[15:47] <prepangolin> I have already id and passwd and  can browse questions and answers.
[15:47] <Dacs> OerHeks: i tried complex one and also failing, just so that we are one the same page , am not changing the root , i am changing a regular user password
[15:47] <squared> hi guys, another question, my server is headless, what's the best way to ensure my network interfaces are using a static config?
[15:47] <prepangolin> But now If I click "log in", It's a long waiting.
[15:47] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, askubuntu and irc have no connection.  use the askubuntu help menu
[15:47] <bekks> squared: Configure them statically.
[15:48] <prepangolin> Oh I see.
[15:49] <prepangolin> But Is anybody using askubuntu here?
[15:49] <squared> bekks: how would I go about doing that?
[15:49] <prepangolin> Can you log in askubuntu now?
[15:49] <bekks> squared: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[15:50] <circular_logic> squared it think it's /etc/network/interfaces
[15:50] <prepangolin> Please give me some information that askubuntu log in is working?
[15:50] <prepangolin> Anybody helppp?
[15:50] <bekks> prepangolin: Please ask the askubuntu support.
[15:51] <Dacs> OerHeks: no matter what i change the password to i still get the unchanged token error
[15:51] <circular_logic> prepangolin: it works for me
[15:52] <squared> bekks: thanks, circular_logic also
[15:52] <circular_logic> squared: your wellcome
[15:56] <prepangolin> thx, <circular_logic>
[15:58] <netrunner__> Can I get some guidance on the ubuntu fglrx drivers
[15:58] <squared> circular_logic: worked.. thanks :)
[15:58] <squared> My box now says there is a new release (13.10) but when i run do-release-upgrade it says no new release found
[15:59] <cfhowlett> squared, use the terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <bekks> squared: So which release are you on currently?
[15:59] <netrunner__> whats the difference from ubuntus own fglrx drivers and the "unsupported" drivers from amd.com
[15:59] <squared> 12.04
[16:00] <squared> i'll try apt-get
[16:00] <netrunner__> If I ran jockey-gtk and installed ubuntu drivers would I still get catalyst control center?
[16:00] <cfhowlett> squared, 12.04 > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 is your path
[16:01] <squared> hrm, my dns is borked
[16:01] <OerHeks> netrunner__, those drivers are tested, and yes, you will get ccsm
[16:02] <squared> hrm, i don't have any dns.. my gateway address is set to my router, am i missing something?
[16:02] <daftykins> gateway = routing, not DNS
[16:02] <daftykins> squared: what does /etc/resolv.conf read?
[16:03] <netrunner__> nice :) but there's three different options to choose from, tho they all have the same description, why is that?
[16:03] <daftykins> netrunner__: choice! :)
[16:04] <netrunner__> There's no difference? Theyre just there so it looks fancier? :) dafuq
[16:04] <squared> daftykins: it's empty
[16:04] <daftykins> netrunner__: i don't know what you're seeing
[16:04] <netrunner__> in additional drivers
[16:04] <netrunner__> when I run jockey-gtk
[16:04] <daftykins> squared: ok, 'sudo -s' enter password, then 'echo <your router IP> > /etc/resolv.conf'
[16:04] <squared> daftykins, well. besides the comments about not editing it directl
[16:04] <netrunner__> theres three different "video driver for the amd graphics accelerators" with the same description
[16:05] <daftykins> netrunner__: different versions surely
[16:05] <netrunner__> but it doesn't say anything about versions
[16:05] <netrunner__> how can I make sure I install the best/latest
[16:05] <OerHeks> netrunner, enlarge that screen so you can see version numbers, try to search a little bit more
[16:06] <netrunner__> there's no version numbers. it's the Additional Drivers gui
[16:06] <netrunner__> there's just titles and a simple description
[16:06] <daftykins> make us a screenshot?
[16:06] <OerHeks> netrunner__, yes it does.
[16:09] <squared> ffs, i broke it
[16:09] <bekks> netrunner__: The best is the version from the ubuntu repos.
[16:09] <OnkelTem> cfhowlett: just tried that ubuntugnome. I'm not sure why they bothered with this distro: same versions, same glitches, even more buggy
[16:10] <cfhowlett> OnkelTem, :<
[16:10] <OnkelTem> Does anybody know how to install Gnome 3.10 on Ubuntu 13.10?
[16:11] <squared> Guys, i set grub_timeout to 5, that is 5 seconds right?
[16:11] <OerHeks> OnkelTem, wait for 14.04 or use a PPA ( unsupported here)
[16:13] <OnkelTem> OerHeks: know the ppa name?
[16:13] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location and I don't know how to fix it. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[16:13] <OerHeks> OnkelTem, nope, search for ubuntu+ppa+gnome3
[16:14] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, is this the 32 or 64 bit version?
[16:15] <OnkelTem> OerHeks: thanks. You Google Kung-Fu is better then mine!
[16:17] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: You've been here a while. Its a 64 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I had 10.04 running well on here without a problem before I moved it onto Mint.
[16:18] <bekks> squared: And now you are on Mint?
[16:18] <squared> mint?
[16:19] <bekks> squared: Sorry, mistabbed :)
[16:19] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, given everything you've tried, I can't think of any software reason for the consistent failure ...
[16:19] <bekks> ScarClaw: And now you are on Mint?
[16:19] <squared> ah.. ok
[16:19] <squared> still no dns for me :/
[16:19] <bekks> squared: Why not?
[16:19] <llutz> squared: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf
[16:20] <squared> it's set to its own IP
[16:21] <llutz> squared: 127.0.0.1?
[16:21] <ScarClaw> bekks: No I am on the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Live CD, I deleted my Mint trying to get it working
[16:21] <squared> so i'm guessing, i could fix it by installing a dns server?
[16:21] <squared> no, 192.168.0.69, its own ip
[16:21] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Could it be my CD rom?
[16:21] <bekks> squared: No, installing a DNS server is like using a ballistic missile when hunting fleas.
[16:21] <squared> lol ok
[16:21] <llutz> squared: desktop installation?
[16:22] <bekks> squared: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file please?
[16:22] <squared> it was, i've used tasksel and it's now a server install
[16:22] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, seems doubtful since you did get a successful boot ---
[16:22] <EndymionM> bekks: There's no kill like overkill, though.
[16:22] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, do you have USB boot support?
[16:22] <bekks> squared: Nope. you just installed predefined packages. ;)
[16:23] <squared> bekks.. oh ok.
[16:23] <llutz> squared: add for test purpose "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf, does it work?
[16:24] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: No, not to mention I am not that familiar with it having always used a CD.
[16:24] <llutz> squared: "dig www.ubuntu.com" to test
[16:24] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, grrr
[16:25] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, well, I've got to say, if mint was running, use that instead - until you buy a new computer - or until 14.04 comes out next month
[16:26] <netrunner__> hey guys there's still no version names for the drivers
[16:27] <netrunner__> they all say "Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators"
[16:27] <netrunner__> all three,
[16:27] <netrunner__> same short description
[16:27] <netrunner__> "vider driver for the amd radeno and firegl graphics accelerators. this pacakge provides 2d opengl blabla"
[16:27] <netrunner__> Is there a jockey-gtk command to install the recommended driver?
[16:28] <netrunner__> there's virtually no way to seewhich one is which version
[16:28] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: I would have continued using Mint but there are issues with my service provider blocking most of the mint ports including the help channel. I have been completely cut of ruining my experience with it and thats why I want to come back to Ubuntu. Sorry its a long story.
[16:29] <squared> all working, thanks bekks, cfhowlett and all.. misconfigured by me!
[16:29] <daftykins> squared: lol did you put your system's own IP in as DNS?
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Scarclaw, OK.  really wish could offer some actual assistance  but this one is beyond me
[16:29] <squared> daftykins: yeah :/
[16:29] <cfhowlett> squared, so - happy again?
[16:29] <daftykins> squared: even though i said 'router IP' ? :D
[16:29] <squared> yeah, wasn't concentrating on what i was doing
[16:29] <daftykins> ah well all's well that ends well
[16:30] <daftykins> until you reboot...
[16:30] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Its been like that for me since the beginning :D
[16:31] <KyouReeUs4nfo> ScarClaw: you may also check whether install works properly by using Virtualbox before you actually attempt for fresh install. That way you will come across such errors in virtual environment beforehand. Most of the times, install errors happen because of faulty media in my experience.
[16:32] <daftykins> netrunner__: did you make a screenshot to show us? sure you can't drag the window out sideways?
[16:32] <Tomgie> When I goto myip/phpmyadmin it just gives me a download called download
[16:33] <netrunner__> Yes I've maximised at and done all I possibly could, but it's easy to see that it just doesnt show versions...
[16:33] <cornfeedhobo> hello hello. I need to make a Win7 VM and in the past I am just used to using VirtualBox, mostly because it's got a siple GUI and I can get right to work. I haven't used VMs on desktops in a while now, are there other options that anyone can recommend that i should explore?
[16:33] <cornfeedhobo> simple*
[16:34] <daftykins> cornfeedhobo: virtualbox is still the best free, no reason to change
[16:34] <llutz> cornfeedhobo: if you feel comfortable with virtualbox, use it
[16:34] <ScarClaw> KyouReeUs4nfo: Well I don't see how it can be faulty media when I am chatting now off the live CD and the Linux Mint runs okay?
[16:34] <daftykins> netrunner__: what card is this?
[16:34] <netrunner__> I just went for one of them now. Which one is the known latest driver?
[16:34] <netrunner__> hd7660d
[16:34] <netrunner__> compiz just crashed after reboot
[16:35] <cornfeedhobo> daftykins & llutz: thats what i thought. thanks!
[16:35] <netrunner__> but it seems to work
[16:35] <brettt> Can you clone a partition directly onto a dvd or bluray?
[16:35] <EndymionM> Okay, I don't care if you all think this is stupid or not.  Is there any way to disable this 'sudo' nonsense in 12.04.4 LTS?
[16:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo> ScarClaw: are you trying to install from that live CD of Linux Mint?
[16:36] <llutz> EndymionM: not supported here, we don't care what you think about sudo
[16:37] <cfhowlett> EndymionM, exactomundo ^^^
[16:37] <ScarClaw> KyouReeUs4nfo: No I am trying to install from the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS live CD which is running now as I am chatting.
[16:38] <llutz> and btw, if one doesn't know how to circumvent that, he'd better use sudo
[16:38] <netrunner__> sudo sucks man what's the use
[16:38] <netrunner__> :D
[16:38] <netrunner__> LULS
[16:38] <EndymionM> llutz, cfhowlett: Well, this is really proving to me that Microsoft seems to put out a far more user-friendly product.  Y'know, like being able to install a freakin' game without some arcane nonsense.
[16:39] <seednode> netameta, yeah, let all of our users run as root
[16:39] <seednode> netrunner__, I mean
[16:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> ScarCalw: so on your hard-drive, there is no OS currently installed, that correct?
[16:39] <llutz> EndymionM: who cares
[16:39] <netrunner__> ye xserver run user as root, forever secure
[16:39] <cfhowlett> EndymionM, if that's all it takes, then yes, you're probably better off with MSFT.  best of luck with that.
[16:39] <brettt> My understanding is that you can't use dd to directly clone a partition with a single command. I just thought that cloning a partition onto a bluray would be very usefull if you want to restore it later...
[16:40] <brettt> anyone know how to do this?
[16:40] <brettt> ... correction: use dd to clone to dvd/bluray directly
[16:40] <seednode> brett, well assuming you have the bluray in, and it's detected, it would be dd if=/partition/to/be/copied of=/bluray/disk, replaced with actual locations of course
[16:41] <daftykins> although you're going to write a lot of wasted zeroes there - so dd is a terrible idea for backup to optical media
[16:41] <EndymionM> cfhowlett: That, the fact that the launcher is permanently docked to the left side of the screen, I can't figure out how to access my bloody flash drives in the command prompt, and a million other issues ranging from the sublime to the ridiculous.  After 30+ years of existence, I still don't see that Linux is ready for the home user.
[16:41] <brettt> really? I read somewhere that you can't do that... let me go bak and check.
[16:41] <cfhowlett> EndymionM, great conversation for the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[16:42] <netrunner__> AWN/avant window navigator. Anyone recommend it?
[16:43] <brettt>  daftykins: will I use /dev/sr0 for the dvd/bluray?
[16:43] <bekks> netrunner__: It is a personal choice.
[16:43] <seednode> netrunner__, sorry, only thing my exclusive contract allows me to recommend is i3
[16:43] <cfhowlett> netrunner__, see the software center for ratings
[16:43] <daftykins> brettt: sorry i disagree with what you're doing so i can't assist
[16:43]  * EndymionM shrugs: cfhowlett: perhaps.  But I came in here with the question, and the answer is, if it's possible, you won't show me where in this byzantine structure to find it.
[16:43] <brettt> daftykins: what would you recommend?
[16:43] <seednode> You're coming here, being impolite to people trying to help, and ignoring anything they say
[16:43] <netrunner__> I heard good things about i3 but it must have some sort of learning curve to it
[16:44] <daftykins> brettt: i don't know, i don't backup to optical media
[16:44] <brettt> daftykins: I just want to experiment with this that's all...
[16:44] <seednode> netrunner__, it's entirely keyboard basedm so yes
[16:44] <brettt> but okay....
[16:45] <Tomgie> Anyone help me?
[16:45] <EndymionM> seednode: I'm impolite to Microsoft people when something doesn't work as needed, too.  It's just rarer that that happens at this point, since I've been working with that structure since MS-DOS.
[16:45] <cfhowlett> !ask|Tomgie,
[16:45] <Tomgie> When I goto myip/phpmyadmin it just gives me a download called download
[16:45] <seednode> EndymionM, if we're going to argue over this again, it's going to PM, but the thing about widely used software is, your perception of how it "needs" to work is not the same as the devs, or that of other users
[16:46] <netrunner__> Steam says my current fglrx version 2:13.101-0ubuntu0.0.1 should be upgraded and it offers to do it. Does this steam upgrade really work? :p
[16:46] <OerHeks> EndymionM, 30 years of existance? are you pointing to ms or linux?
[16:47] <EndymionM> OerHeks: Linux, but I'm also being generous and including some of GUI Unix that led to this in that, too.
[16:48] <OerHeks> EndymionM, get your facts right, and stop the rant if you want support
[16:48] <seednode> OerHeks, he's been doing this for just over 16 hours
[16:48] <j4son> EndymionM: step 1) admit user error.
[16:49] <EndymionM> seednode: You haven't seen the way I've been crabbing at my Linux evangelist friends on Facebook since I got this thing :-P
[16:49] <OerHeks> !ot | EndymionM
[16:49] <ScarClaw> Anyone know why an Ubuntu 12.04 Live CD's Installer would Crash. Each time I attempt to select my location it comes up with an error?
[16:49] <Tomgie> So no one can help me?
[16:49] <Dacs> OerHeks: the answer to my question was that i need to mount -rw -o remount /
[16:49] <cfhowlett> !patience|Tomgie,
[16:49] <kostkon> EndymionM, this is a support channel.
[16:50] <daftykins> Tomgie: it gives you the .php file?
[16:50] <daftykins> Tomgie: sounds like you've setup apache and PHP wrong
[16:50] <EndymionM> kostkon: And I came in and asked a question about something that is disrupting what amounts to being my workflow.
[16:50] <llutz> !sudo | EndymionM
[16:50] <Tomgie> how do  fix it daftykins
[16:51] <EndymionM> llutz: Thank you.  Bye.
[16:51] <Data__> Hi
[16:51] <cfhowlett> EndymionM, long answer short: we will NOT show you how to disable sudo.  if you need to do so, find another source for the info.  It's out there.
[16:51] <daftykins> Tomgie: did you follow a guide on how to install Apache and PHP, then phpmyadmin?
[16:51] <Tomgie> Yes daftykins
[16:51] <daftykins> Tomgie: do you have a link to it? what version are you using?
[16:52] <Data__> anyone know how to use john the ripper password cracker
[16:52] <Tomgie> To the info on how I set it up?
[16:52] <cfhowlett> Data__, and we not doing password crackers here either
[16:52] <bekks> Data__: It has a documentation, and a man page ;)
[16:52] <daftykins> Tomgie: well hopefully you just installed the three packages
[16:53] <Tomgie> Yes I just install those
[16:53] <Tomgie> I had a clean Ubuntu install
[16:54] <daftykins> Tomgie: of what version?
[16:54] <Tomgie> 12.04
[16:54] <LtRipley> hi
[16:54] <daftykins> Tomgie: possibly you installed the others after apache and it didn't restart apache? 'sudo service apache2 restart'
[16:54] <LtRipley> is there a canonical way of installing eclipse4 on ubuntu?
[16:55] <daftykins> !eclipse
[16:55] <daftykins> d'aww
[16:55] <Tomgie> apache is a program that is all ready installed to the server
[16:55] <bekks> LtRipley: Download it, and install it in your home.
[16:55] <daftykins> Tomgie: yeah i know... it's the web server...
[16:56] <Tomgie> Can I post a link to the picture?
[16:56] <daftykins> sure
[16:56] <Tomgie> http://gyazo.com/886c25ebdf7e6a133a018f82861153e4
[16:56] <LtRipley> bekks: ok, i will try that. removing eclipse3 with apt-get
[16:56] <Tomgie> when I goto Iphere/phpmyadmin it does that
[16:57] <bekks> Tomgie: Did you enable the php module for apache?
[16:57] <Tomgie> No
[16:57] <daftykins> Tomgie: can you run "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" ?
[16:57] <Tomgie> Yup
[16:58] <bekks> Tomgie: Then dont expect php to be working ;)
[16:58] <daftykins> Tomgie: already installed or did it add it?
[16:58] <Tomgie> added it
[16:58] <daftykins> ok did it restart apache?
[16:58] <Tomgie> Works now
[16:58] <daftykins> ;)
[16:58] <Tomgie> Thanks so much!
[16:58] <daftykins> whatever guide you followed was _terrible_ haha
[16:58] <Tomgie> Yea
[16:58] <bekks> Tomgie: This would be the official guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:59] <llutz> Tomgie: where did you get phpmyadmin from? use the one from the repos, it depends on all needed stuff (like mod-php5)
[16:59] <Tomgie> I got it fixed
[16:59] <daftykins> btw the answer was also google result #1
[17:00] <daftykins> :D
[17:00] <Spectrum> that's killing me..
[17:00] <Tomgie> Bye
[17:00] <Hunt_e107> hello folks
[17:01] <cfhowlett> Hunt_e107, greetings - what is your ubuntu question?
[17:01] <Hunt_e107> does anyone one know how to install Xen on ubuntu 13.04 desktop
[17:01] <gooses89> Hey guys, im trying to get some java to run on server start. I have a .sh in the folder with the jar. And the init.d script. Both are fairly basic scripts. The problem I am running into is if I dont bash the .sh from within the folder, the jar tries to run in the current folder and it can't find it's configs.
[17:01] <Spectrum> Hunt_e107: What is Xen?
[17:01] <cfhowlett> Hunt_e107, xen is end of life and no longer supported
[17:01] <daftykins> Hunt_e107: Xen was ditched as the main supported virtualisation technology 4'ish years ago so unsure what luck you'll have now, search the package lists for a xen kernel
[17:01] <cfhowlett> 13.04
[17:01] <cfhowlett> sorry zen is good 13.04 is dead
[17:02] <Hunt_e107> I cudnt find anything that points to 13.04
[17:02] <Hunt_e107> its all upto 12.04
[17:02] <Hunt_e107> I believe KVM is the supported hypervisor for Ubuntu is that right?
[17:02] <cfhowlett> !info xen
[17:03] <Hunt_e107> no it doesnt
[17:03] <Hunt_e107> !info xen
[17:03] <cfhowlett> Hunt_e107, appears that xen has been deprecated
[17:03] <Hunt_e107> ok
[17:03] <Hunt_e107> let me check KVM if that's in the repo.
[17:04] <gooses89> Anyone able to help me with my issue? Can't figure it out.
[17:04] <Hunt_e107> gooses89: whats the issue?
[17:05] <cfhowlett> !server|gooses89, maybe ask in the server channel
[17:05] <gooses89>  im trying to get some java to run on server start. I have a .sh in the folder with the jar. And the init.d script. Both are fairly basic scripts. The problem I am running into is if I dont bash the .sh from within the folder, the jar tries to run in the current folder and it can't find it's configs.
[17:06] <gooses89> Will ask in the server irc as well.
[17:07] <Hunt_e107> whats the ubuntu server channel?
[17:07] <gooses89> #ubuntu-server
[17:08] <Phibonacci> Hello. I just installed ubuntu and grub does not boot on BIOS (no system found on hdd). Whenever I try to boot on the hdd from my USB key (with a liveCD on it) I get "Invalid or corrupt kernel image". I already tried to restore grub by following this and I did not get any error : http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[17:13] <geppo_peppe> http://xdcc_SEARCH_X1395508484
[17:14] <OerHeks> geppo_peppe, please do not spam, thanks
[17:14] <Data__> Ty Juri_
[17:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: when you reboot and press shift for more than 5 seconds, does it show the grub menu? and does it have more than one kernel listed on it? I would reboot without USB if I were you.
[17:17] <Phibonacci> I did reboot without USB. It does not show anything. Like if the hdd was empty.
[17:18] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Phibonacci
[17:18] <Beldar> Phibonacci, run that script and post a link to a pastebin of the text from the script
[17:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: you tried pressing shift key ?
[17:19] <Phibonacci> KyouReeUs4nfo: I beg your pardon ? Shift key, where ?
[17:21] <solange> oi
[17:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: When your computer reboots, pressing shift key on your keyboard will let you see grub menu.
[17:22] <BitStick> is it possible to install windows 7 alongside ubuntu 13.10?
[17:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: hold shift key for more than few seconds to get to it.
[17:22] <Beldar> BitStick, Possible yes.
[17:23] <cfhowlett> BitStick, suggested practice is windows install first, then ubuntu
[17:23] <BitStick> well,  i already have ubuntu on here so can i do windows 7 now?  or would i have to install windows 7 than reinstall ubuntu?
[17:23] <sytrus> why don't you just run a VM with windows on it?
[17:23] <OerHeks> BitStick, try it, and you will see you need to install windows first
[17:24] <cfhowlett> BitStick, install windows now.  it will kill your grub install.  don't worry.  ubuntu is still there.  you;ll need to reinstall grub to get both OS on a menu
[17:24] <BitStick> grub?
[17:24] <cfhowlett> !grub
[17:26] <BitStick> does my ubuntu 13.10 live cd have the boot repair automatically? i dont recall seeing that
[17:27] <cfhowlett> BitStick, no it does not - reinstalling grub does require boot repair ...  all this said, it is MUCH easier to install win7 and then ubuntu.  pick your poison
[17:27] <BitStick> i already have ubuntu on here tho, id rather not have to reinstall it :/
[17:28] <sytrus> Bitstick, are you planning on using ubuntu or windows as you primary OS?
[17:28] <sytrus> if you are using Ubuntu, just install windows on a virtual machine
[17:28] <BitStick> ubuntu as primary,  i wiped off windows 8.1 so i could have ubuntu
[17:28] <sytrus> then you don't have to worry about any of this
[17:28] <BitStick> i need windows 7 for some games,  im not a big fan of wine
[17:28] <cfhowlett> BitStick, virtualbox + win7
[17:28] <sytrus> how much memory do you have?
[17:28] <BitStick> 4gb ram
[17:28] <sytrus> eh
[17:28] <BitStick> can go higher, but i dont have another stick
[17:29] <sytrus> games via a VM will run like shit with that little RAM
[17:29] <Phibonacci> KyouReeUs4nfo and Beldar : there is the output from boot info script
[17:29] <BitStick> would i have to partition or would windows 7 be able to partition some off for itself?
[17:29] <sytrus> when you create a VM you allocate a set amount of RAM to the VM
[17:29] <Beldar> Phibonacci, can you give the url again?
[17:29] <Phibonacci> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1ZGpX15C
[17:30] <OerHeks> BitStick, ask in ##windows, we stated you need to installwindows first.
[17:30] <cfhowlett> BitStick, ^^^ gotta agree
[17:31] <BitStick> i wouldnt need windows 7 at all if i could get battle.net to run
[17:31] <sytrus> yea, if you're trying to run games a VM is going to suck ass
[17:31] <BitStick> but wine is so finicky and i suck at trying to configure it and figure it out lol
[17:31] <OerHeks> !language | sytrus
[17:31] <sytrus> Just reinstall windows, and then install ubuntu alongside it
[17:31] <sytrus> swap as needed
[17:32] <Beldar> Phibonacci, When you used that chroot you showed us which partition did you mount to have the grub control?
[17:32] <cfhowlett> BitStick, bite the bullet and set up a proper dual boot.  win7 then ubuntu.
[17:32] <BitStick> im worried about trying that cfhowlett
[17:32] <BitStick> because when this came with windows 8.1 i spent 2-3 months untill last night finally getting it run the live cd
[17:32] <cfhowlett> BitStick, ???
[17:32] <BitStick> had to spam the hell out of the f buttons to get to the bios to turn off secureboot and change settings
[17:33] <Beldar> BitStick, You can image/clone the ubuntu install and slip W7 in and reload ubuntu.
[17:33] <Phibonacci> Beldar: /dev/sdb5
[17:33] <Beldar> Phibonacci, sdb5 was the HD and the usb reversed on the mount, it should be sda5?
[17:33] <BitStick> i have no clue what that even means let alone how to do it
[17:33] <BitStick> but its fine, ill just not be able to play WoW/Hearthstone
[17:33] <Phibonacci> the usb was sda and the hdd was sdb
[17:34] <BitStick> and i gotta give up streaming untill OBS comes out with their linux port :/..     thanks for the help tho
[17:34] <gabmus> hello people, I have a really big problem with my ubuntu-gnome installation: for some reason GDM isn't showing, it shows a blank screen with the mouse pointer on boot. This happened after enabling the magnifier in gdm from the top accessibility menu. I'm stuck, can't login into gnome, what do i do?
[17:35] <Phibonacci> oh no, my bad Beldar, sda was the hdd and sdb the usb, I used sda5
[17:35] <Beldar> Phibonacci, The script shows it should boot, if it were me I would boot ubuntu with supergrub and just do the mbr load from its desktop. I have supergrub on a stick already though.
[17:36] <pfifo> gabmus: are you sure you cant just scroll the screen around with the mouse and get to the options for disabling the magifier
[17:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: what is on sda6?
[17:36] <gabmus> pfifo: the screen isnt magnified, the pointer dimension is normal
[17:36] <afiefh> Is there a way to make Grub more beautiful? I saw the grub-theme-starfield package, and was hoping there are more themes
[17:36] <gabmus> and all the screen is plain black
[17:36] <Beldar> Phibonacci, If it will boot supergrub will  boot it http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/  this is one way to see if it boots at all.
[17:38] <gabmus> is there some sort of way for like reset gdm completely?
[17:38] <Beldar> afief, here is the manual, there are ubuntu wiki's for some grub mods like backgrounds....etc. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[17:38] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: my guess is it could be partitioning error too, since your windows partitions are the only ones that seem bootable.
[17:39] <Phibonacci> KyouReeUs4nfo: I don't know what is on sda6, it's a dump from my school and they did a lot of messy things (2 swap partition...)
[17:39] <afiefh> Beldar: thanks, but are there sites that host different themes for download like gnome/kde-look?
[17:40] <pfifo> gabmus: dpkg-reconfigure --force gdm
[17:40] <Beldar> afiefh, I have not see this for grub, there have been gui apps that kinda work however. Be careful here, it is the boot.
[17:40] <Phibonacci> I'm fixing the computer of a friend actually. He's telling me he got this bug by trying to allocate free space with a random partion program he found on windows (not the one integrated to windows).
[17:41] <Phibonacci> It's fairly possible this program messed with the partition.
[17:41] <afiefh> Beldar: well I have spent the last two days getting my dual boot to work. Nothing can scare me now!
[17:41] <gabmus> ok done let me reboot (im writing in tty5 from irssi)
[17:41] <gabmus> gabmus_laptop will be me from laptop just in case
[17:42] <Beldar> afiefh, The ubuntu forum is full of grub mods, I would look around there.
[17:42] <gabmus_laptop> im here
[17:42] <gabmus_laptop> still same problem, nothing solveed
[17:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: I have no clue if that would have been the cause of the problem but it is quite possible that MBR may have been messed with.
[17:43] <pfifo> gabmus_laptop: if I ran into this problem I would restore from backup
[17:44] <gabmus_laptop> what backup lol
[17:44] <bobkosse> thats the spirit! ;-)
[17:44] <gabmus_laptop> no backups here, I should start making them someday
[17:44] <Phibonacci> Is there a way to restore the MMR ?
[17:44] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Phibonacci: I would try to fix it by windows bootable CD to fix MBR from that end and then make Linux partition bootable from that side and reboot.
[17:44] <gabmus_laptop> pfifo: but come on there must be another way, this is like the most stupid issue I've ever had
[17:45] <Beldar> Phibonacci, The HD as of now has one swap.
[17:45] <Beldar> Doh I see two now my mistake
[17:46] <pfifo> gabmus_laptop: find where gdm keeps its configs and edit and/or delete the offending lines/files. Find out what program is actually doing the magnifacation and try uninstalling or reconfiguring that
[17:47] <gabmus_laptop> thats a good idea, but my guess is that someway gdm itself got screwed up, BECAUSE of the maybe working magnifying program
[17:47] <squared> hey guys, currently upgrading from 12.04 and it's asking me about whether i want change the /etc/default/grub to the package manager version or my local version, what are the consequences of keeping my own version after an upgrade?
[17:47] <gabmus_laptop> but trying isnt a problem
[17:47] <OerHeks> squared, we don't know, what is your version?
[17:47] <pfifo> gabmus_laptop: maybe uninstall gdm and switch to lxdm or another dm
[17:48] <daftykins> squared: make a backup, say yes, then it won't matter
[17:48] <gabmus_laptop> pfifo: what about wiping the entire gnome configuration? that's a minor consequence after all. could that work?
[17:49] <pfifo> gabmus_laptop: might as well queue up "learn to make simple gzip compressed disk images with dd program" to your todo list
[17:50] <pfifo> gabmus_laptop: im not sure if that would really solve the problem, gnome and gdm are different, they might not share the same configuration
[17:50] <gabmus_laptop> pfifo: they share some important stuff since gnome 3
[17:50] <gabmus_laptop> trying wont hurt
[17:50] <dpe> rms
[17:50] <Beldar> squared, If you have modified it to have to OS run use it, otherwise it does not really matter, in general.
[17:51] <squared> OerHeks: I changed grub_timeout to 5, commented out grub_hidden_timeout, set grub_cmdline_linux_default to ''.. that's it
[17:51] <llutz> squared: just press enter then on that question
[17:52] <dpe> if I have auto log on for ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I forgot the password. I can log on ubuntu but can't install updates and programs?
[17:52] <dpe> any help?
[17:52] <cfhowlett> !patience|dpe
[17:53] <pfifo> dpe: boot from livecd, chroot into your install and reset the passwd for your account
[17:53] <OerHeks> !password | dpe
[17:53] <gabmus_laptop> im rebooting, lets see
[17:53] <pfifo> dpe: scratch that, boot into recovery mode, i forgot... it drops you into a root shell without asking for a password
[17:53] <gabmus_laptop> still nothing
[17:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> dpe: sudo -s will give you root I think
[17:54] <Beldar> dpe, The password you logon with is the superuser password, have you set a root password?
[17:54] <OerHeks> KyouReeUs4nfo, he does not remember his password, so what is the use of your solution?
[17:54] <pfifo> KyouReeUs4nfo: sudo -s and -i are not supported here either
[17:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> OerHerks: my bad, you are right it does ask for password
[17:55] <llutz> pfifo: nonsense, its the correct way to gain a root-shell
[17:55] <devslash> is there another channel where I can ask about Ubuntu touch ?
[17:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> OerHerks: I forget the command that used to give root right away
[17:55] <bekks> devslash: #ubuntu-touch
[17:55] <devslash> thanks
[17:56] <KyouReeUs4nfo> pfifo: apologies
[17:56] <pfifo> llutz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Special_notes_on_sudo_and_shells
[17:57] <llutz> pfifo: this is irc-support, not designers meeting
[17:57] <bekks> pfifo: From the link you gave: "To start a root shell ... use: sudo -i" and ""To start a root shell, but keep the current shell's environment, use: sudo -s" :)
[17:57] <bekks> pfifo: So it is supported, actually.
[17:59] <pfifo> llutz: bekks: personally I use -s all the time, but to be on the safe side, i make people im helping put sudo infront of everything
[17:59] <evilbug> startup disk creator is giving me a fail error as soon as i hit create disk, why is that? ubuntu 13.04
[17:59] <bekks> pfifo: Yeah, but that doesnt make sudo -i and sudo -s unsupported, as you said earlier ;)
[18:00] <pfifo> bekks: true, its unsupported cause it says its unsupported
[18:00] <cfhowlett> evilbug, don't know.  try unetbootin instead?  verify that your iso is good?  verify your USB is working?
[18:00] <daftykins> evilbug: 13.04 is EOL so no support i'm afraid
[18:01] <evilbug> isn't it supposed to be supported until 14.04 is out?
[18:01] <cfhowlett> evilbug, no it is  not.  it's end of life
[18:01] <evilbug> cfhowlett: the iso is good and the usb is fine.
[18:01] <llutz> !13.04 | evilbug
[18:01] <cfhowlett> evilbug, did you verify the iso?
[18:02] <evilbug> it seems to be fine, yeah.
[18:02] <jeffd1830> Generally speaking, they've switched to 9 month cycles for non-LTS releases.
[18:02] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|evilbug,
[18:02] <sidd_mak> how to change permission on nfs mounted files and folder ??
[18:02] <cfhowlett> evilbug, let's remove the guesswork.  do the checksum
[18:02] <bekks> sidd_mak: using chmod, as usual.
[18:02] <evilbug> cfhowlett: i've checked the md5 and it looks good.
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Shouldn't we be using SHA for those anyway?
[18:03] <OerHeks> SonikkuAmerica +1
[18:03] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, ?  I've only ever used md5sum ...
[18:04]  * cfhowlett makes mental note to read up on this later
[18:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> dpe: back to you, you can reset your password using recovery mode from root prompt.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[18:05] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: I've heard MD5 is to be treated as insecure because it's been exploited more often than SHA-1 or SHA-256 (I recommend higher SHA myself)
[18:05] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, in short: md5sum can have a collision
[18:05] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, good to know.  be nice if we can get an updated !factoid
[18:05] <cfhowlett> !sha
[18:05] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Good luck getting it past the -ops
[18:05] <bekks> OerHeks: technically, SHA can have collisions, too.
[18:06] <maujhsn> Audacity is a halfway decent audio editing program but I've discovered that it doesn't allow you to record from my soundcard. If I use a mic  I can record! Atre there any better opensource sound editors that will allow recording other than ffmpeg, and gstreamer?
[18:07] <bernardo_> hello!! i have a ask please can anyone help me? its about bash programming
[18:07] <SonikkuAmerica> bekks: So? A hacker can still, if he has control over both, be able to associate 2 files with 1 has
[18:07] <SonikkuAmerica> *hash
[18:07] <SonikkuAmerica> in MD5
[18:07] <cfhowlett> !hash
[18:07] <cfhowlett> bernardo_, see the #bash channel for bash support
[18:07] <bernardo_> very thanks cfh!!!
[18:07] <pfifo> maujhsn: lok into jackd, it will allow you to do what you want and a bunch more
[18:08] <pfifo> look*
[18:09] <maujhsn> pfifo I'll check into it thanks!
[18:09] <bekks> SonikkuAmerica: By the design of both MD5 and SHA, it is technically possible to have totally different content in files which will produce the same hash. Thats the caveat of a hash. It is not a unique checksum, but a checksum. The propability of collisions is very very small, and, in addition, you will not be able to let's say modify the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf for using a compromised dns server (as an example).
[18:11] <pfifo> checksums are not intended for security on the iso images, just a means to ensure your download is complete and correct
[18:11] <mzaza> I am extracting tars to install applications, what the best directory to move the extracted files to and place my the application in?
[18:11] <EeveeTrainer> does anyone know if ubuntu is good for linux beginners
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: In which case SHA is still better
[18:11] <llutz> EeveeTrainer: as good as any other distro
[18:12] <KyouReeUs4nfo> maujhsn: Hydrogen is another one you could give a shot
[18:12] <OerHeks> mzaza, depends, your /home/  could be one, or /opt/  if you want it to be available for other users
[18:12] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica: i disagree, sha is worse because it takes more time and power to compute
[18:12] <bekks> SonikkuAmerica: For hecking the consistency of a download, MD5 is totally sufficient.
[18:12] <mzaza> OerHeks: Thanks :)
[18:12] <bekks> *checking
[18:13] <e^0> is that true that using wubi we don't get feature like hibernating ?
[18:14] <maujhsn> pfifo,  KyouReeUs4nfo, Does jackd pose any conflicts with pulseaudio, and will jackd enhance audacity so it will work the way I want it?
[18:14] <Beldar> e^0, I believe so, however wubi is not supported in general and a not for long term use per the developer themselves
[18:14] <e^0> Beldar: ok :)
[18:15] <gabmus_laptop> ok, i have news
[18:15] <e^0> Beldar: but i can't get that how is wubi responsible for hibernation features, isn't wubi just an installer.!
[18:15] <e^0> gabmus_laptop: what :P
[18:16] <pfifo> maujhsn: jackd works with pulse, you can turn jackd off when your not using it (you can turn pulse off too but thats not needed)
[18:16] <llutz> e^0: the way linux starts in a wubi-install differs, thats the reason for hibernation failing
[18:16] <cfhowlett> e^0, wubi is NOT just an installer but - it's no longer supported.  it was NEVER intended as a long-term installation solution.
[18:16] <gabmus_laptop> before getting black the screen flashes and i can see a magnified cursor. the problem then IS the magnifier. now, the only thing is that it is not a specific package but it's part of gnome, so the only thing i have to do is find the file that manages that option and manually change it
[18:16] <Beldar> e^0, It installs in a file in windows, hibernate needs a swap partition, or file at the least.
[18:16] <cfhowlett> e^0, let me be emphatic; using wubi should be your VERY last resort.
[18:17] <KyouReeUs4nfo> maujhsn: hard to say, you gotta try it
[18:17] <e^0> Beldar llutz cfhowlett thanks :)
[18:17] <declan2> Hi all, I'm sick of arch linux and want to switch to ubuntu because I'm sick of battling my OS. However I don't want a clunky shiny DE/WM like gnome (unity?), just something lightweight like openbox. I haven't used ubuntu in years -- will it be easy to do this with ubuntu?
[18:17] <e^0> cfhowlett: not using wubi but someone asked me this question so i was curious about why it affects hibernation when installed using wubi
[18:17] <KyouReeUs4nfo> declan2: try lubuntu
[18:18] <e^0> declan2: yes ubuntu is cool
[18:18] <e^0> no prob at all
[18:18] <pfifo> declan2: try lubuntu, it has lxde (wich is openbox)
[18:18] <cfhowlett> declan2, install ubuntu.  install lxde, xfce4.  logout.  choose the other windows manager.  login.
[18:18] <e^0> you can also go for LTS you will love it
[18:18] <cfhowlett> that easy
[18:18] <maujhsn> KyouReeUs4nfo Hydrogen do you use it? And how is it better than audacity?
[18:18] <xwalk> declan2: You can also try using the Ubuntu Server image and installing your own desktop environment without having to remove another.
[18:18] <declan2> cfhowlett: Alright, and I can remove gnome/unity?
[18:19] <KyouReeUs4nfo> maujhsn: I use it just for fun, not professionally if that is what you are asking
[18:19] <cfhowlett> !flavors|declan2, could remove or could just not use it.
[18:19] <pfifo> declan2: you can simply not install gnome to begin with... however removing it, my be difficult
[18:20] <maujhsn> KyouReeUs4nfo For the second time  how is it better than audacity?
[18:21] <Flannel> declan2: /lastlog KyouReeUs4nfo
[18:21] <Flannel> meh
[18:21] <cfhowlett> maujhsn, take this question to #ubuntustudio or to #opensourcemusicians
[18:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> maujhsn: I can't compare
[18:21] <declan2> pfifo: Hmmm, so all those ubuntu variants -- they're exactly the same and get the same updates, minus the gnome/unity parts?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> declan2: absoluely. Its the same under the hood
[18:22] <cfhowlett> declan2, no they're not the same - different default apps.
[18:22] <pfifo> declan2: the only difference is what DE is installed by default, use the server install to install no DE at all
[18:22] <Flannel> declan2: They're all the same repositories, it's just a matter of which packages are installed.
[18:23] <declan2> Hmmm, so right now on arch I don't have gnome but I can use gnome programs... I imagine I'll be able to do the same with lubuntu?
[18:23] <cfhowlett> declan2, yes
[18:23] <Flannel> declan2: So, if you want to install some DE/WM that isn't a fully fledged flavor, install with the server CD, you'll get a text-only install, and then you can install openbox/whatever and all the programs you want
[18:23] <maujhsn> cfhowlett So you are suggesting that I expand my channel congestion? :)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> declan2: yes, thats fine. You will use Gnome deps etc which will take up resources but it will run without issue
[18:24] <pfifo> declan2: gnome libs will be installed as dependacies if you choose to install a package that needs them (same with libs from kde)
[18:24] <declan2> Yeah makes sense
[18:24] <declan2> Alright so right now I have it partitioned, I have my windows partition which I want to leave there, and my arch partition(s) which I want to replace with ubuntu
[18:25] <declan2> I think I have boot, /, and /home on different partitions
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> declan2: just delete the Arch partitions in Windows then boot to the Ubuntu install CD and install to the freed space as you wish
[18:26] <declan2> ActionParsnip: Alright, any suggestions on what tool to use in windows?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> declan2: the default disk manager is fine.....
[18:38] <hourra> comment j peu utiliser ça?
[18:38] <k1l_> !fr | hourra
[18:45] <cuddylier> Hi, does anyone know why linux-crashdump won't start when I check it with cat /sys/kernel/kexec_crash_loaded?
[18:45] <cuddylier> I've tried using /etc/init.d/kdump start but it still says 0 = not loaded
[18:46] <cuddylier> As my box crashed earlier today and I have no idea why.
[18:55] <cisconinja> folks a little help here please, i reset my 13.04 password. then i was able to login using my newly changed password and i upgraded to saucy . my issue lay when i try to ssh to my box. i keep getting "password authentication failed, Please verify the username and password are correct"?
[18:56] <adi_> ola
[18:57] <lewis__> Hey!
[18:57] <lewis__> Could someone plz help me?
[18:57] <cisconinja> can someone please tell me what i am missing here?
[18:57] <rommel> lol
[18:57] <rommel> can someone ask a specific question
[18:58] <cisconinja> rommel: read 6 line above
[18:59] <rommel> tried removing the key
[18:59] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cisconinja: is Caps lock on?
[18:59] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: checked that too
[18:59] <lewis__> Is there a way to edit the properties of a text editor whilst in it?
[18:59] <lewis__> noob question!
[18:59] <sisifo> hello people
[18:59] <tasslehoff> rommel: to the rescue. just installed 13.10 on my retina mbp. works well, but after a while I get "Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled". any tips for cooling stuff down? known issues on mac?
[19:00] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cisconinja: username correct?
[19:00] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: yep
[19:00] <sisifo> i´w like some help with configuration of mine wired internet
[19:00] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: but i can walk to that box and enter the same username and password and it works just fine
[19:00] <lewis__> Is there a way to edit the properties of a text editor whilst in it does anyone know?
[19:01] <SwedeMike> lewis__: what text editor?
[19:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cisconinja: ssh server running ?
[19:01] <sisifo> when i try to configure mine ppoe conecction, something go wrong..
[19:01] <lewis__> Just the ubuntu text editor!
[19:02] <rommel> tasslehoff, i have no idea but google came up with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/153647/macbook-8-1-overheating
[19:02] <abaday> Hi, I mounted my nfs server on /mnt, but only root has permission to cd and ls into it
[19:02] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: i assume , and we both know that is making an ass out of me :)
[19:02] <abaday> even though permissions are set to allow my normal user
[19:02] <dark-yux> I'm trying to create a test environment with a custom x session and I cant get it to work heres the ~/.xsession
[19:02] <Phibonacci> Beldar: I'm back. I did restore the MMR with the repair tools of the windows7 cd. I now have a grub simple bash like shell at boot.
[19:02] <dark-yux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7137305/
[19:03] <kostkon> !details | lewis__
[19:03] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: how would i check
[19:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cisconinja: portforwarding issue may be
[19:03] <cisconinja> hmmmmm
[19:03] <Beldar> Phibonacci, How did you use the W7 Disc, commands in the terminal, or the repair button?
[19:04] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: i bet you are correct, i have replaced/reconfigured the linksys
[19:04] <Munger> Hi. I've asked this question in #jack, but nobody seems to be around...
[19:04] <cisconinja> KyouReeUs4nfo_: give me a min let me check
[19:04] <tasslehoff> rommel: hm. could be relevant. this time I followed a tutorial to install ubuntu without bootloader (ubiquity -b). didn't the previous times, and this is the first time I have heat issues.
[19:04] <Munger> Can someone help me with a configuration issue please. I am trying to prevent my guitar playing through the line-out on my card unless jack is running and I specifically make the connections. It seems like something else in the system is interfering.
[19:04] <Phibonacci> repair button, I did not have to go further
[19:05] <Phibonacci> should I try this again ? http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[19:05] <Munger> I'm using jackd
[19:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cisconinja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[19:06] <lewis__> i would like to edit the properties whilst in .xsession (/home/lewis) - gedit
[19:06] <Beldar> Phibonacci, The repair button does not work when you have grub in the mbr, as the script showed, you would need to run in it's terminal BootRec.exe /fixmbr  to reload the mbr with the windows boot.
[19:06] <JCM83> My Thunderbird has the wrong password for this account. How do I change it?
[19:07] <Beldar> JCM83, In the popup that says can't connect.
[19:07] <JCM83> Beldar how do I get back to that popup?
[19:08] <Radiad> Hey guys. I'm running Xampp on Ubuntu. I want to install additional Apache-Modules like "mbstring' and 'pdo_mysql'. How can I do that?
[19:08] <Beldar> JCM83, click on the account I assume or restart thunderbird.
[19:08] <k1l_> !xampp | Radiad
[19:08] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! How do I obtain the package Java6-runtime? I installed the defaault-jre, but that's not sufficient to run a new program I installed
[19:08] <k1l_> Radiad: for xampp specific questions please see their support
[19:09] <Radiad> Yeah but when I try to install "libapache2-mod-mbstring", then Ubuntu doesn't find it
[19:09] <Phibonacci> Beldar: but I have access to grub now. Why do you say it did not work ?
[19:10] <JCM83> Beldar, that did it, thanks. Seems like it ought to have a "change password" option somewhere.
[19:10] <k1l_> Radiad: if you use xampp it dosnt make sense at all
[19:10] <Radiad> k1l_: I'm trying to use "Typo", but it seems like I have to install Apache manually..
[19:11] <lewis__> when i try to access my computer using xrpd from windows 7 i can not see my taskbar any ideas?
[19:11] <Beldar> Phibonacci, I read your post as you used the W7 repair option to get a grub bash. That makes some sense if "grub bash" is not a regular grub menu.
[19:12] <Phibonacci> It's working Beldar. ;)
[19:12] <Phibonacci> I used the URL I posted to restore grub again.
[19:12] <Phibonacci> I can now boot on any OS (windows/Suse/Ubuntu)
[19:12] <Phibonacci> thanks for your time
[19:13] <Beldar> Phibonacci, Cool, I have seen a reloading if the windows boot, than grub back fix these issues before, not sure why this fixes it.
[19:13] <Beldar> of*
[19:13] <lewis__> when i try to access my computer using xrpd from windows 7 i can not see my taskbar any ideas?
[19:14] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cyclist_2: openjdk-7-jre may be your answer
[19:16] <lewis__> why is my name grey?
[19:16] <cyclist_2> KyouReeUs4nfo_: the installer specifically required Java6-runtime; is openjdk-6-jre the same package as Java6-runtime?
[19:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> yes
[19:17] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> cyclist_2: sudo apt-cache show openjdk-6-jre
[19:20] <cyclist_2> KyouReeUs4nfo_: thank you! Bye, for now.
[19:20] <Bauer1> guys I have a problem, each time I boot up, my mouse scrolls a lot of the page, until I re-plug the wireless adaptor. But how to fix this problem?
[19:21] <OerHeks> Bauer1, buy a new mouse
[19:21] <Bauer1> OerHeks: why do you think the problem is with the mouse?
[19:22] <OerHeks> Bauer1, as you stated you need te replug it to make it work proper
[19:23] <OerHeks> Bauer1, what makes you think it is ubuntu's problem?
[19:23] <Bauer1> OerHeks: good question, I will double check it on Windows to see if the problem comes up there as well
[19:24] <OerHeks> Bauer1, try clean the eye, or change batteries
[19:26] <abaday> solved, I had acl on the folder lol
[19:30] <js_doode> running xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, best way to install google chrome, latest stable version?
[19:30] <jjavaholic> which app or applet do you use to monitor gpu and cpu usage?
[19:31] <wad> I'm trying to use the Startup Disk Creator to prepare a USB stick with a Ubuntu iso, so I can install Ubuntu on an old PC. It copies the files just fine, but it's taking forever "Installing the bootloader".
[19:32] <wad> It copied all the files in about 5 seconds, but this bootloader step has been going on for a few minutes already.
[19:32] <shutchie> hi all. i am trying to install ice, but i am getting a message about unmet dependencies. but sudo apt-get install -f ice doesn't resolve it. any ideas?
[19:32] <wad> Is there any way I could figure out what the issue is?
[19:34] <wad> Yay, it finally finished!
[19:34] <wad> Wow, that was unexpectedly slow.
[19:34] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> js_doode: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/?platform=linux or if you are interested in Chromium then sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[19:34] <js_doode> KyouReeUs4nfo_: k is it a deb file?
[19:35] <gazzwi86> I’m having some trouble sending mail from my server.  I want the server to email me when it hits issues.  I havent added my domain to it and only intend on pointing A records to the server, using MX/mail from elsewhere. Exim and postfix arent working - can anyone help?
[19:37] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> js_doode: Yes, it seems deb files are available. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-linux-12-xx-13-xx/
[19:39] <js_doode> KyouReeUs4nfo_: tks for the link ^ i was getting an error with the deb file and this link explains how to fix that :)
[19:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install reinstall ice
[19:40] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ice
[19:42] <solange> como é isso... num tendi nada
[19:43] <bivo> Hi, I have a KBN-I/2100 Kabini system on 13.10 and I'm trying to get UVD to work, I'm running the latest everything from the Oibaf ppa and 3.14.0-031400rc7-generic #201403162235 SMP Mon Mar 17 02:36:19 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux VDPAUInfo http://pastebin.com/R2puRTC9
[19:46] <skinofstars> yo. anyone else hit "exportfs: /home/user/foo does not support NFS export"?
[19:46] <shutchie> anyone able to help install ICE?
[19:47] <misingnoglic> Hey, when I boot xubuntu the boot screen comes on but then it gets stuck on a black screen with a small white line in the top left
[19:47] <misingnoglic> how do I fix this?
[19:48] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: can you switch to another tty? like ctrl+alt+f6?
[19:49] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: can you elaborate? when do I press ctrl alt f6?
[19:49] <skinofstars> misingnogwhen you get to the failed boot screen.... let's back up a bit. how far through the boot are you getting?
[19:50] <misingnoglic> it is before I can log on
[19:50] <misingnoglic> it's just the blue xubuntu loading scree
[19:51] <misingnoglic> (This time there's no white line)
[19:51] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: what graphics card do you have?
[19:52] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: Graphics Adapter: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 500
[19:52] <misingnoglic> Also this wasn't ever a problem
[19:52] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: i'd try pressing crtl+alt+f6 or something when it gets too that point. at least then you have a command line you can debug on.
[19:53] <misingnoglic> well at the black screen there's no response from ctrl alt f6, I'll try at the blue loading screen
[19:53] <daftykins> heh why as far as the sixth? :>
[19:54] <skinofstars> daftykins: i go for the 6th as it's the one before the gui. i guess ctrl+alt+f1 would be fine :)
[19:54] <misingnoglic> ctrl+alt+f6 didn't do anything any time during the boot (Also the white line is back)
[19:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: I would recommend finding out the dependencies for that package and installing those packages first before reinstalling ICE.
[19:55] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Quirks#Force_Pipe_A_Quirk this is the last thing I did to my laptop before I restarted it, do you think this could cause the issue?
[19:56] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: probably :)
[19:56] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: you can change your boot options to just boot to a terminal
[19:56] <misingnoglic> How do I do that if I can't boot into anything?
[19:58] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: sorry, give me a moment. i normally google this stuff as i go. in the grub menu you can change your boot options to just go to a terminal. it'll use a basic graphics driver that shouln't give you any issues.
[19:59] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: once you are there, you can revert that edit you made that's causing the issues
[20:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: please provide the name of the ice package that you are trying to install.
[20:01] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: right, iif you don't get it already then you should be able get to the grub menu by pressing shift during load
[20:02] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: then you can edit the boot options. after it says 'quiet splash' add 'text'
[20:02] <misingnoglic> Thank you, I found the shift thing but wasn't sure when to hold it lol
[20:02] <bill337152> hello, sometimes i dont have sound on my system until i reboot. is there a way to turn on sound without rebooting . I'm using a creative sound card.
[20:02] <shutchie> anyone have any idea why this is failing? http://pastebin.com/sLS8yw30
[20:03] <misingnoglic> Booting via command line now
[20:05] <cisconinja> okay i tried everything to ssh from my M$box to my saucy , deleted previous keys, resetting my password still no luck, i am not sure what else to do , any suggestions please
[20:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install zeroc-ice34 -- let me know if this works
[20:05] <daftykins> cisconinja: both on LAN, IP known, service running, PuTTY?
[20:06] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: negative. http://pastebin.com/Wg2bJ5pU
[20:06] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: I'm now at the command line, it lets me type but keeps going "Asking for cache data failed, assuming drive cache: write through"
[20:07] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install php-zeroc-ice
[20:07] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: just looking that up :)
[20:08] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: same really http://pastebin.com/mj5ad59b
[20:08] <cisconinja> daftykins: same LAN, service running, putty and or secureCRT
[20:09] <daftykins> cisconinja: port listening, so you get as far as some graphical authentication?
[20:09] <daftykins> cisconinja: check dem logs
[20:09] <basketball>   usb-modeswitch-data
[20:09] <basketball> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[20:09] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: can you edit your xorg.conf file to revert the change you'd made before?
[20:10] <cisconinja> daftykins: from windows i ssh to my box , i get asked for my username and password then when i provide it i get "check my username and password"
[20:10] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: I wouldn't know how. There wasn't anything in the file before so if I can just delete it that would be nice
[20:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: does normal update work? sudo apt-get update
[20:10] <basketball> The following packages have been kept back:
[20:10] <basketball>   usb-modeswitch-data
[20:10] <basketball> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[20:11] <misingnoglic> actually I think I got this
[20:11] <daftykins> cisconinja: very novel
[20:11] <cisconinja> daftykins: ?
[20:11] <daftykins> cisconinja: did you do anything between when it did work and now?
[20:11] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: xorg.conf was deleted
[20:12] <misingnoglic> should I reboot?
[20:12] <daftykins> cisconinja: is it set to auto update?
[20:12] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: ok, at that command line, try- ls /etc/X11/
[20:12] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: yep it runs
[20:12] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: ahh, you''ve deleted it? yeah, give reboot a go
[20:12] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:13] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: did that already
[20:13] <cisconinja> daftykins: nope. that box is wired to a linksys who in return is wired to my default gateway , and get assigned ip via dhcp running on my default gateway
[20:13] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: also tried this: http://pastebin.com/HdHJ7h52 which gives some success, but "Y" doesn't move it forward
[20:14] <misingnoglic> skinofstars: Yay it boots :D
[20:14] <basketball> The following packages have been kept back:
[20:14] <basketball>   usb-modeswitch-data
[20:14] <basketball> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[20:14] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: sweet!!
[20:14] <pfifo> basketball: stop doing that
[20:14] <misingnoglic> now the question is how to fix the closing laptop error without breaking my boot, cause that's why I needed to change xorg.conf
[20:14] <daftykins> cisconinja: hmm well IP assignment isn't exactly related to software updating :> but nm. i'm out of ideas and must go eat now, i guess i'd reboot it for completions sake
[20:14] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: xorg.conf files can be a real pain... maybe that's why they removed them!
[20:15] <misingnoglic> Is there another way to fix it then? When I close my netbook the screen just turns black (and the xorg actually fixed it lol)
[20:15] <misingnoglic> And yeah I finally understand this xkcd http://xkcd.com/963/
[20:16] <skinofstars> misingnoglic: that might be the way to do it, but you're gonna have to include a lot of other setup settings in the file which are normally managed automatically
[20:17] <skinofstars> i swear, there is an xkcd for every situation
[20:17] <pfifo> i liked xorg.conf linux was so much better when it let you configure stuff yourself
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: You still can...
[20:18] <pfifo> I still have my backup backup copy of xorg.conf
[20:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get purge zeroc-ice35b zeroc-ice34
[20:20] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica: yeah... for now. soon itll be just like wqindows though
[20:24] <Ca11um> Is there any way of figuring out why I get an internal system error every time I login (but nothing actually breaks)?
[20:25] <OerHeks> Ca11um, maybe, start with giving details
[20:26] <Ca11um> There are no details; I just get an error box saying system encountered an issue.
[20:26] <Ca11um> Login continues and everything works fine, however.
[20:27] <OerHeks> you might want to check some logs, like /var/log/auth.log or dmesg
[20:27] <xyzaffa1r> I have a 20 inch HD tv Im trying to set up as my monitor in elementary os, but the resolution isn't right, I am using an hdmi cable and parts of the screen are cut off, I need to set the resolustion to 1366X768, but there is no option in the settings, how can I do that in the terminal?
[20:28] <OerHeks> elementary is not supported here, xyzaffa1r , as it has its own issues
[20:28] <OerHeks> !elementary
[20:28] <compdoc> xyzaffa1r, could be a driver issue. it should set that automatically, if its a newer tv
[20:29] <xyzaffa1r> compdoc, can I use xrandr?
[20:29] <compdoc> dnot know
[20:29] <xyzaffa1r> Nope the options are the same
[20:30] <xyzaffa1r> How do I set a custom resolution?
[20:30] <eliterecon> Hello! I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my hp pavilion dv6000 laptop and have not been able to get the wifi to work it is a broadcom 802.11 b/g/n b4311- i believe
[20:30] <compdoc> if no one is around that knows, be sure to ask the mailing list
[20:32] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: one sec, destroyed the virtual machine, trying again
[20:34] <Ca11um> Can I ask about Steam for Linux in here? It seems there is no official Steam channel.
[20:35] <Barrin6> what about it? It works for me
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Ca11um: How about in #ubuntu-steam ?
[20:35] <Ca11um> Ah, SonikkuAmerica, thanks ;)
[20:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> xyzaffa1r: here is a user of elemantaryOS who is able to mirror the displays and having the same issue with using max resolution, pictures show drop-down menu with different settings and I am wondering if it would help you a bit. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/94730/resolution-problems-with-external-monitor-in-elementaryos
[20:36] <Beldar> eliterecon, Confirm the card using lspci in the terminal and see if broadcom, and if so, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> eliterecon: sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common
[20:39] <basketball> \part
[20:39] <eliterecon> ill do that once the ubuntu-restricted-extras gets done download(using ethernet) thx for the help! :D
[20:41] <OerHeks> eliterecon, you will notice when installing restricted extra's, a popup screen will appear (maybe under your current window) to confirm an UELA
[20:41] <OerHeks> if you miss this, you will wait 100 years
[20:42] <eliterecon> that popped up OeHeks so do i just click forward?
[20:43] <saurov> nickserv help
[20:43] <TheEvil> hi, someone knows why the minimal cd of 12.04 doesn't works? I'm trying right now and it stuck on purple screen
[20:43] <OerHeks> eliterecon, yes :-)
[20:43] <eliterecon> OerHeks: thank you
[20:45] <eliterecon> OerHeks: how long should it take to install?
[20:46] <OerHeks> 5 minutes maybe, depends on your system
[20:46] <saurov> anyone know about how to remove right protection from a flash drive?
[20:46] <eliterecon> ok
[20:46] <OerHeks> downloading could take a while
[20:47] <cLoCkWiSe> Hello
[20:47] <OerHeks> saurov, what filesystem is on that flash drive?
[20:47] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: back to here now on a fresh install http://pastebin.com/C3imk9wq
[20:48] <saurov> msdos
 msdos
[20:49] <OerHeks> msdos is not posix, so setting rights is useless. i think you want to write to it, and you can't now? maybe you need to change it to rw
 i want to remove right protection, i can't even see the contents and can't format too
 i'm using ubuntu 14.04
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> saurov: trusty isnt supported here til release day
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> saurov: it is only supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day next month
[20:51] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install php5-common and then retry
[20:51] <saurov> okay, its based on 13.10
[20:51] <Adie_> Why can't ubuntu seem to ever remember my diggity darn monitor settings?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> saurov: its not supported here
[20:52] <saurov> okay
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> saurov: and its not based on 13.10 at all
[20:52] <Adie_> I've got an nvidia 760 with 3 screens, and every time I wake up either one monitor is completely gone, or it's locked in low res and moved all over
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Adie_: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:53] <saurov> how can i share a screen shot here?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> saurov: use imageshack or similar
[20:55] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: already newest version
[20:56] <squared> Hi Guys, I'm setting up a media / file server - i'm using a proliant microserver with ubuntu server on a 250gb hdd, i have two other drives fitted that are not yet formatted. I'm thinking of creating a LVM across the two drives so taht it is one volume with directories that I see fit.. can anyone give me any advice on how I can do this?
[20:57] <Adie_> unplugging and plugging back in my monitor fixes it right up, but it's w/e
[20:57] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: zeroc-ice34? is it already installed
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> !lvm
[20:57] <squared> Thank you, ActionParsnip :)
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Np :-)
[20:59] <squared> ActionParsnip: do you know if the tldp.org docs will go back to basics, i.e. formatting the drives, or would that be part of the lvm process?
[20:59] <cisconinja> ActionParsnip: would you assist me with my ssh , i am running 13.10 and i ve followed https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html. but still i am unable to ssh to my box from windows.
 http://imageshack.com/a/img541/3420/oohm.png
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> cisconinja: what do you see in the logs of your client?
[21:00] <cisconinja> ActionParsnip: it is a headless server up in my attic , so i am running between my attic and this windows box :)
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> saurov: they just havent updated that image yet, because the oS is prerelease and not readry
[21:01] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: any new ideas?
[21:02] <cisconinja> ActionParsnip: i will try to login to here from that box and paste bin some files for you! give me a few please
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> cisconinja: when you connect, on the client side what messages do you see? What client are you using?
[21:02] <EleanorEllis> I don't know if this is an Ubuntu issue or a Google Chrome issue. On chrome when uploading a file to a webpage, the open file dialog shows only a detailed list view with tiny thumbnails. It doesn't give choices for icon or compact view as does Nautilus. The main problem is that when uploading pictures I can't easily see which one is which until I click on each for a preview. Is this a behaviour of chrome or Ubuntu and can I change
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: what web page are you uploading to?
 so, that's why i won't get any help about my flash drive here?
[21:03] <cisconinja> ActionParsnip: using putty from the windows machine (client) i get Access denied
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> saurov: you arent using a release supported here. Trusty is only supported in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> cisconinja: are you using SSH keys?
[21:04] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: My profile on a dating website. Could it be different behaviour depending on how the webpage chooses to ask for the files? I notice with some websites you can drag and drop into the browser
[21:05] <balor> I've generated some packages to host in my PPA, but was wondering if there's some Canonical provided build system that might keep them up-to-date (like Fedora's COPR).
[21:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install ice34-services ice34-slice ice34-translators zeroc-ice34
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: does it happen in other sites?
[21:05] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: Yes
 thanks, i'm going there.. :)
[21:06] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: But as I mention, some sites (like google services) allow you to drag and drop from nautilus or the desktop straight onto the page.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: have you tried other browsers to test?
[21:07] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: Facebook does the same thing. I haven't tried other browsers yet. I will fire up firefox.
[21:07] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: http://pastebin.com/L0MQJCjQ
[21:08] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: The other irritation is that the dialog always appears very small, so the file names are truncated and you have to drag the dialog wider for every file (it only allows you to select one file at a time).
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> shutchie: what is the output of: apt-cache policy php-zeroc-ice phpapi-20090626
[21:10] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: Firefox is the same
[21:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie: sudo apt-get install php5-cgi
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: i suggest you report a bug
[21:12] <squared> hrm.. so lost as to what to do
[21:12] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: You think it's an Ubuntu issue then? How do I report a bug? And how do I check nobody else has reported this already? I didn't really know what to google to search for this issue.
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: run: ubuntu-bug firefox ,will start the procedure
[21:13] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: I just noticed it's the same behaviour on saving a file from gimp so it is definitely an issue with ubuntu rather than the individual applications
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: not sure what package then. Id report as firefox but state it affects other apps and it will be moved
[21:15] <bododo> hi all
[21:15] <bododo> I'm new to samba actually and I was wondering if I could share a usb printer attached to a nix* machine for windows client that have the printer's driver installed
[21:16] <bododo> The said laster printer doesn't work on my nix* machine actually, and I was wondering if I could share it over the LAN and let the windows clients handle the printing
[21:19] <misingnoglic> Hey, my laptop doesn't work after I close it, I want to follow this solution but there's no lidswitch file in that folder, should I just make one? http://askubuntu.com/questions/248967/laptop-screen-stays-blank-after-lid-is-reopened
[21:22] <cLoCkWiSe> why does lubuntu run so slow
[21:23] <clue_h> time dilation
[21:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> bododo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[21:26] <HauntJemimah> hey does anyone know a guide for running linux with a virtual machined Windows XP
[21:26] <HauntJemimah> should I back up my current files from windows xp on a harddrive, load linux, and put my files back into the virtual machine's XP directory?
[21:27] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: still no :/
[21:28] <clue_h> HauntJemimah, yes, using virtual box with xp as a guest, you can do that
[21:28] <HauntJemimah> sweet
[21:28] <HauntJemimah> do you guys know any links for a first timer like me?
[21:29] <hwhite> Whenever I try to run the shell script to install a driver for my printer, I get an "Error opening terminal: xterm" error
[21:29] <HauntJemimah> reason being, they're cutting support for xp soon and I would like to switch to linux to continue to get updates
[21:29] <Beldar> HauntJemimah, So how you going to run the virtual with a eol on XP?
[21:29] <HauntJemimah> what's "eol"?
[21:30] <Beldar> end of life
[21:30] <Daekdroom> End of Life.
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> oh
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> thanks sorry
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> I know every other thing in internet lingo
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> never heard that one honestly
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> um
[21:30] <Daekdroom> Because it mostly refer to software/OS'
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> that's the point exactly
[21:30] <HauntJemimah> I would run linux but boot windows xp for my windows based programs
[21:31] <HauntJemimah> its an old comp so I can't really run vista either as a bootable machine
[21:31] <HauntJemimah> just saying
[21:31] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> shutchie:  out of juice on that one really.
[21:32] <Beldar> HauntJemimah, Old machine, I doubt ubuntu will run if at all in a virtual, test it.
[21:32] <guntbert> HauntJemimah: take it easy on the <enter> key please - you are scrolling the channel much faster
[21:32] <HauntJemimah> so get a live cd right
[21:33] <Beldar> HauntJemimah, You would more likely to succeed with a dualboot and a light desktop like lubuntu, depends really on the computers hardware.
[21:34] <HauntJemimah> its got a single core AM2+ socket Athlon 3800+, with a ATI Radeon X1600XT
[21:34] <Beldar> separate OS's
[21:34] <HauntJemimah> its ancient yeah, plus 3 gigs of ram I think
[21:34] <Beldar> HauntJemimah, It will run a virtual, ubuntu is a bit sluggish virtually I have is all.
[21:34] <Beldar> found*
[21:35] <HauntJemimah> so basically, I would run Ubuntu, and run XP in a virtual machine right
[21:35] <HauntJemimah> that's what I plan to do, not the other way around lol
[21:35] <Beldar> XP run better virtually at least here.
[21:35] <OerHeks> that ati 1600 will be the bottleneck
[21:35] <hwhite> I am trying to get my Dell v305 printer to work on Ubuntu, however the Dell site does not list a Linux option for their drivers, and it does not seem to be pre-installed.
[21:36] <HauntJemimah> yeah I do plan on upgrading the whole comp for like $250 max by buying parts off ebay
[21:36] <HauntJemimah> I don't have money for a 1k machine trust me
[21:36] <HauntJemimah> I just use this for internet, Finale, Python coding, music, and sometimes emulators
[21:37] <Beldar> HauntJemimah, Cool, for those comments though #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chat. ;)
[21:37] <skinofstars> hi. can i get some help with setting up an nfs server please? i'm getting "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[21:38] <HauntJemimah> I thought it related... either way thanks for the info, definitely will boot it up when xp support ends
[21:39] <mcl0vin> !seen Action
[21:40] <guntbert> mcl0vin: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:40] <skinofstars> basically, i'm trying to do nfs with vagrant, but failing
[21:40] <mcl0vin> guntbert, yes sir, i am not able to access my 13.10 box using ssh
[21:41] <guntbert> mcl0vin: is ssh installed?
[21:41] <KeyboardNotFound> When I type dig somesite.com I see ;; SERVER: 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1)
[21:41] <KeyboardNotFound> , does that mean I have dns server on my pc ?
[21:41] <mcl0vin> guntbert, yes
[21:42] <tunage> My video drivers error on update  http://bpaste.net/show/plTvp3lS9OwAqTtelfn4/
[21:42] <guntbert> mcl0vin: can you ssh locally (from the box istelf)?
[21:42] <mcl0vin> guntbert, i am unable to access it from my other box which runs M$
[21:42] <skinofstars> why would i get "exportfs: /home/kevin/projects/smartedi-web does not support NFS export"
[21:42] <mcl0vin> guntbert, trying right now
[21:42] <tunage> I want you!
[21:43] <mcl0vin> guntbert, debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password
[21:43] <mcl0vin> Permission denied, please try again.
[21:43] <shutchie> KyouReeUs4nfo_: thanks. gonna try their help forums
[21:43] <guntbert> KeyboardNotFound: sort of, there is a small version of dnsmasq running
[21:44] <guntbert> mcl0vin: wrong password?
[21:44] <mcl0vin> guntbert, nope
[21:46] <hwhite> Is there a better place to ask about printer setup?
[21:46] <guntbert> mcl0vin: as long as you cannot ssh locally all other attempts are futile - so please !pastebin the outcome of ssh -vvv localhost
[21:47] <KeyboardNotFound> How to view which DNS server does my pc use ?
[21:47] <dmi3on> does ubuntu has same issues with ati drivers like fedora ?
[21:49] <[RO]Daniel> KeyboardNotFound, check the network settings
[21:49] <KeyboardNotFound> [RO]Daniel, I don't have settuped DNS server in nettwork settins
[21:49] <humbag> or cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:49] <[RO]Daniel> dmi3on, try and see for yourself how does it work with youre hardware, there are a lot of ati users who has no problems
[21:50] <KeyboardNotFound> humbag, namserver 127.0.0.1
[21:50] <dmi3on> trying = installation which is time consuming
[21:51] <guntbert> KeyboardNotFound:     nm-tool    will display complete information
[21:51] <humbag> oh forgot about dnsmasq
[21:51] <fep> hello, is there any walktrough to install ubuntu side by side on a new computer that already have win8 installed?
[21:51] <guntbert> KeyboardNotFound: see https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[21:51] <KeyboardNotFound> guntbert, thank you, nm-tool helps me :)
[21:51] <guntbert> KeyboardNotFound: You're welcome
[21:52] <mcl0vin> guntbert, http://pastebin.com/D7wjP4sr
[21:55] <guntbert> mcl0vin: strange - although I seem to remember such a thing - do you get the same when you just    ssh localhost  (without username, ip)?   The next step is to look at the logs in /var/log/syslog  and /var/log/auth
[21:56] <tunage> My video drivers error on update, ->  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)    http://bpaste.net/show/plTvp3lS9OwAqTtelfn4/
[21:56] <mcl0vin> guntbert, yes samething when ssh localhost
[21:57] <guntbert> mcl0vin: the look into the logs please
[21:57] <guntbert> *then
[21:59] <mcl0vin> guntbert, you want me to grep for anything
[22:00] <passepartout> hello everyone, I've got a locked-up disk partition for a long while. It's been LUKS encrypted, and somehow its password hasn't been correct. Can you recommend me any tool which maybe now can break its encryption? I heard about hashcat, for example.
[22:01] <guntbert> mcl0vin: well grep ssh /var/log/syslog    might be useful, /var/log/auth.log is not so huge
[22:02] <passepartout> hello everyone, I've got a locked-up disk partition for a long while. It's been LUKS encrypted, and somehow its password hasn't been correct. Can you recommend me any tool which maybe now can break its encryption? I heard about hashcat, for example.
[22:02] <mcl0vin> guntbert, nothing in syslog for ssh
[22:03] <huckfinn> hello everyone, I've got a locked-up disk partition for a long while. It's been LUKS encrypted, and somehow its password hasn't been correct. Can you recommend me any tool which maybe now can break its encryption? I heard about hashcat, for example.
[22:04] <fep> i am sorry to repeat myself, is there anyone who knows where to find a walktrough to install ubuntu side by side to win8?
[22:04] <barrett> didn't there used to be a keyboard shortcut for a "run" dialog?  like alt-f2?  of maybe it was windows-f2?  something to bring up a dialog where i could enter "gksudo gedit /etc/whatever" for example
[22:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> passepartout: how do you know it is LUKS encrypted?
[22:05] <rww> passepartout: If you can't remember the password, you're not going to get the data back.
[22:05] <guntbert> mcl0vin: are you running as root? ssh login as root is diabled by default
[22:05] <rww> passepartout: Feel free to spend some time trying, but it isn't going to do you any good.
[22:05] <OerHeks> fep, this page miay be any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:06] <fep> OerHeks, thanks
[22:07] <barrett> nevermind, it is in system settings > keybaord
[22:10] <huckfinn> rww, I was asking more for an available tool, in particular I heard of hashcat.
[22:11] <rww> an available tool for what? remembering your password?
[22:11] <newhoa> I'm looking for a video capture card to capture old VHS tapes. I'd like to capture the RAW video. I was looking at some used Hauppauge PVR-150 cards. I know a lot of Windows users had trouble capturing RAW from these (it forced the use of MPEG hardware encoder). Does anyone have any experience with these on Ubuntu (or Linux in general)?
[22:11] <guntbert> huckfinn: don't expect anything in that regard
[22:11] <guntbert> rww: :-))
[22:11] <newhoa> Or does anyone know of any video capture card that will capture raw analog/s-video that works well with Linux?
[22:13] <huckfinn> guntbert, rww, I am not asking question to entertain sarcasms. this is a real question for assistance for now to real ubuntu people that I often meet here.
[22:13] <rww> huckfinn: and as I've told you already, this is not going to go anywhere. If there was some way to bypass LUKS, it wouldn't be popular.
[22:13] <rww> huckfinn: If you can't remember the password for that volume, you are not going to get the data from it back.
[22:14] <guntbert> huckfinn: you will not find a tool to easily break that encryption - that was what we both were essentially saying
[22:14] <rww> huckfinn: The process for checking whether a password is correct takes enough CPU time that it is not feasible to brute force it, which is what e.g. hashcat would do.
[22:16] <huckfinn> rww, but if I'm not mistaken hashcat had a recent version that went farther than brute force.
[22:16] <fep> OerHeks, the only thing that page gave me was fear of screwing up my windows :p is there really no "walktrough" to be found?
[22:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: on a sidenote, will hashcat work if the password is alphanumeric, more than 15 characters long, multilingual and it is not found in a dictionary?
[22:17] <rww> huckfinn: the only thing that's "farther than brute force" would be some bug in LUKS' implementation or an attack on the underlying algorithms, neither of which exist to my knowledge. Again, you're welcome to spend time using it, but it is not going to get you anything.
[22:17] <huckfinn> KyouReeUs4nfo_  these are the questions that I'd also be interested to know
[22:18] <streulma> hello, on Ubuntu, the sound from Ubuntu is not better then on Windows, in Windows I notice a subwoofer I think, it's Acer, is there a fix ?
[22:18] <huckfinn> rww, I see
[22:18] <rww> KyouReeUs4nfo_: depending on how exactly the volume was set up, it can take on the order of seconds to check a potential password for validity. Even if it were 8 characters long, that's a lot of seconds.
[22:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: cloud computing may expedite the recovery but who knows
[22:20] <clue_h> cloud = internet lol
[22:21] <rww> e.g. with one second per password, only checking alphabetic passwords that are 8 characters long, that's >6000 years
[22:21] <rww> so if you go cloud together 6000 CPUs, it's going to take you a year and presumably bankrupt you.
[22:22] <rww> well, i guess you'd have a 50% chance of finding it halfway through, so let's say 3000 years or CPUs
[22:22] <FuuqUmiist> hey, how do you force a monitor resolution? is there an app?
[22:23] <cannon> arandar
[22:23] <mcl0vin> guntbert, how do i add my user to AllowedGroup
[22:23] <ekodauhm> hi, i've a problem for install steam plateform on ubuntu lucid > the libc6 is too old ... do you know if it's possible install this on lucid please ?
[22:23] <huckfinn> rww, in that case encrypted disks should even be state-secure
[22:23] <huckfinn> state meaning government
[22:23] <rww> huckfinn: correct
[22:24] <guntbert> mcl0vin: don't allow root for direct ssh access
[22:24] <Beldar> !lucid | ekodauhm
[22:24] <FuuqUmiist> cannon arandar can force a resolution that is not supported?
[22:24] <navel> hello all
[22:24] <huckfinn> rww, but we hear in the news that it doesnt require 3000 years but maybe a week for a police department to get to contents of a hard drive
[22:24] <mcl0vin> guntbert, i wont
[22:24] <rww> huckfinn: if you pay close attention to news articles on the subject, you'll find that state decryption of encrypted drives tends to happen through the person who knows the password giving it out, or insecure storage of key material.
[22:24] <rww> huckfinn: no you don't.
[22:24] <ekodauhm> Beldar ?
[22:25] <guntbert> mcl0vin:   sudo adduser mclovin AllowedGroup
[22:25] <Beldar> ekodauhm, Lucid Desktop is end of life and not supported.
[22:25] <navel> anybody knows how to enable flash HW acceleration in firefox (ubuntu 14.04)
[22:26] <ekodauhm> ok thx :(
[22:26] <Beldar> navel, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel.
[22:27] <navel> join #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <rww> huckfinn: go look at the recent NSA leaks, for example. There's a reason why all of the leaked documentation is talking about putting holes in crypto standards or convincing some company to put in backdoors or other such indirect attacks. It's because well-done cryptography (which LUKS is) is not mathematically feasible to break.
[22:28] <mcl0vin> guntbert, adduser: The group `AllowedGroup' does not exist.
[22:28] <Su7> Hi all, I'm having issues with 13.04 and bumblebee
[22:28] <guntbert> mcl0vin: *you* gave that name - where did you get it? Are you following some guide?
[22:29] <huckfinn> rww, isnt that the problem itself? we or many of us buy commercially available drives, e.g. WD drives were named in those leaks as backdoored
[22:29] <mcl0vin> guntbert, am just thinking to apt-get remove --purge <ssh>
[22:29] <Su7> my CPU fan won't start since bumblebee is installed, causing a very high CPU overheating on my laptop
[22:29] <Su7> this is a critic issue
[22:29] <rww> huckfinn: WD having backdoors doesn't matter if everything that you write to the disk is already encrypted. backdoors on the actual drives are dealing with the encryption that the drive and computer firmware do themselves
[22:29] <guntbert> mcl0vin: did you mess with the settings? else that will not help in any way
[22:29] <rww> (which is not what LUKS does)
[22:29] <Su7> I have an Optimus Intel + nVidia configuration
[22:30] <Su7> no sign of any fan in sensors output neither
[22:30] <mcl0vin> guntbert, thats from tail -f /var/log/auth.log
[22:31] <mcl0vin> guntbert, no i didn't
[22:31] <huckfinn> rww, didnt know that an external disk drive encrypted anything by itself.
[22:31] <rww> huckfinn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-based_full_disk_encryption
[22:31] <rww> huckfinn: that's the sort of thing that WD would be putting a backdoor in
[22:32] <rww> huckfinn: LUKS is all software-based
[22:32] <guntbert> mcl0vin: ah - that's AllowGroups - but I still see there "root" - try it as mclovin
[22:33] <rspinuz> Su7: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:34] <Su7> rspinuz: 13.10
[22:34] <bcuraboy> hi guys.i'm running ubuntu gnome 13.10 and i want that gdm start at login..what should i do? i've already reconfigure it but it doesn't start at the beginning.i've also tried to fix it with sysv-rc-conf but still nothing... before this happened i tried lxde,but i already uninstall everything( i think)
[22:34] <bcuraboy> Any help?
[22:34] <Beldar> !gdm
[22:35] <Bob876> Hi guys. I accidentally nuked my files from my Ubuntu server. I am in panic mode and I turned it off. Could someone walk me through a recovery?
[22:35] <huckfinn> rww, considering the leaks, can we reasonably assume that nsa&co. doesnt have a superhyper computer to break even luks?
[22:35] <bekks> Bob876: Restore the backup.
[22:36] <guntbert> huckfinn: back to ubuntu support please
[22:36] <Beldar> bcuraboy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/58528/whats-the-difference-between-gdm-and-lightdm
[22:36] <rww> huckfinn: even if they do, if your threat model includes the NSA stealing your hard drive without you noticing it, imaging it, and then putting it back, you probably should be asking someone more expensive than #ubuntu for help
[22:36] <Bob876> I did have a backup. I upgraded owncloud to version 6 and it deleted the files. That synced to my main computer.
[22:36] <Viskee> rww: +1 lol
[22:37] <rspinuz> Su7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/382564/laptop-fan-heat-high-when-using-only-ubuntu-13-04
[22:37] <bekks> Bob876: "the cloud" cannot be considered to be a backup at all.
[22:37] <rspinuz> Su7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153618/bumblebee-overheating
[22:37] <huckfinn> guntbert, sorry. I'd already given up hoping for my disk recovery, hence went off-topic.
[22:37] <bekks> Bob876: all you can do is boot a live cd, clone the disk to an image file, and try to restore your files from the image file.
[22:38] <L0laapk3> hi
[22:38] <rspinuz> Su7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/154440/cpu-fan-always-working-and-the-air-is-hot
[22:38] <Bob876> owncloud is a software backup tool...
[22:38] <bekks> Bob876: Ermm, no. It is a cloud, where you can store stuff.
[22:39] <huckfinn> rww, no, I was just generally comparing it in terms of level of security
[22:39] <Bob876> The backup server is 10 feet away if that's what you mean. I have physical access.
[22:39] <bekks> Bob876: Then restore the backup.-
[22:39] <Su7> rspinuz: read all of these pages already, none of them apply perfectly to my issue
[22:41] <Bob876> OK, I misunderstood you before
[22:41] <rspinuz> Su7: What drivers are you using?
[22:41] <mekon> how do you think. Why kdm nor lightdm do not use .Xsession
[22:42] <mcl0vin> guntbert, that is what i am doing, i never used root
[22:42] <Su7> rspinuz: I don't know actually
[22:42] <L0laapk3> does anyone have any experience with opencl?
[22:42] <Su7> is there a good tool ?
[22:42] <huckfinn> guntbert, rww, thank you for your time and insights! KyouReeUs4nfo_ , thank you!
[22:42] <Su7> rspinuz: I just made a frssh install
[22:42] <huckfinn> good night!
[22:43] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: you don't have a USB stick with a key on it by any chance do you?
[22:43] <rspinuz> Su7: I am talking about your video driver, and if you don't know what video driver you are using how do those article not help or apply to you?
[22:43] <huckfinn> KyouReeUs4nfo_ , why?
[22:44] <yeyeman> Hi, someone here told me how to remove Chromium updates from the automatic updates, every since then there is a red triangle with an exclamation mark in my unity panel
[22:44] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: to recover your data
[22:44] <yeyeman> it says "the update information is outdated"
[22:44] <rspinuz> Su7:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/
[22:44] <Guest82736> can anyone help me with mysql real quick?
[22:44] <huckfinn> KyouReeUs4nfo_ , how?
[22:44] <Su7> rspinuz: OK, about the video chip
[22:45] <yeyeman> and when I click "show updates", it says the software is up to date
[22:45] <OerHeks> yeyeman, why would someone suggest that? turn it on
[22:45] <bekks> !ask | Guest82736
[22:45] <Su7> rspinuz:
[22:45] <Su7> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:45] <Su7> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119M [GeForce GT 520M] (rev ff)
[22:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: from your response I am assuming you didn't save it away.
[22:46] <Guest82736> ok, how do i create a script on mysql ?
[22:46] <yeyeman> OerHeks, I asked how to remove the chromium updates, since I don't have chromium installed, but it seems to have caused some other trouble
[22:46] <rspinuz> Su7: OK Now what video driver did you install for your card?
[22:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: http://domesdomain.de/blog/2010/06/09/howto-decrypt-luks-partition-with-keyfile-or-password/
[22:46] <onlty> Guest82736, Which one do you mean, .sql file or SQL query statement?
[22:46] <Su7> rspinuz: which one ?
[22:46] <Guest82736> .sql
[22:47] <rspinuz> Su7: You have more then one graphics card in your laptop?
[22:47] <yeyeman> how can I get rid of the warning?
[22:47] <Su7> rspinuz: yes, and that's why I have bumblebee isntalled
[22:47] <Guest82736> @onlty .sql
[22:47] <OerHeks> yeyeman, so you have a ghost warning?
[22:47] <onlty> Guest82736, You could create .sql file just like a normal text file, and put SQL queries into it
[22:48] <rspinuz> Su7: Back to my original question.  What video drivers did you install
[22:48] <Guest82736> ok, how do i do create a nowmal text file?
[22:48] <Guest82736> normal
[22:49] <huckfinn> KyouReeUs4nfo_ , no, I hadn't saved it
[22:49] <pfifo> Guest82736: I reccommend using emacs for text editing
[22:49] <yeyeman> OerHeks, I don't know? It says The update information is outdated ... This might be caused by a repository that is no longer available ..
[22:49] <Su7> rspinuz: for intel, I guess the drivers came during the install
[22:49] <Guest82736> im trying to create an email database and the directions want me to inject a script
[22:49] <Su7> for nvidia, I performed this : "sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus linux-headers-generic"
[22:50] <huckfinn> anyway, good night!
[22:50] <onlty> Guest82736, you should use emacs or VIM to create and save text files
[22:50] <huckfinn> or good day!
[22:50] <L0laapk3> newb here, how do I install a library?
[22:50] <onlty> huckfinn, uhh.... good morning! :P
[22:50] <Guest82736> can i use nano?
[22:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> huckfinn: good time!! :)
[22:50] <onlty> Guest82736, of course!
[22:51] <OerHeks> yeyeman, then check your sources list in softwarecenter
[22:51] <awesomess3> L0laapk3, put the library into /usr/lib? *shrugs*
[22:52] <huckfinn> onlty, good morning, too! :) yes, good time is better, all-embracing, KyouReeUs4nfo_ :)
[22:52] <L0laapk3> thanks awesomeness3
[22:53] <rspinuz> Su7: nvidia-settings -q NvidiaDriverVersion or grep -i "x driver" /var/log/Xorg.0.log  (what is the output)
[22:53] <L0laapk3> I am just so confused, linux is so overwhelming
[22:54] <Su7> rspinuz: empty output in both cases
[22:55] <rspinuz> Su7:  You do not have the nvidia drivers installed
[22:55] <bekks> Guest82736: use whatever text editor you like.
[22:56] <L0laapk3> I read something about headers, what are they exactly?
[22:56] <Su7> rspinuz: do I really need them ? I don't want the nvidia card to be enabled
[22:56] <Viskee> Has anyone used repo to make android from source?
[22:56] <Viskee> on ubuntu of course
[22:56] <mekon> L0laapk3: overwhelming and unstable
[22:57]  * m1dnight can't make a f'in chart
[22:57] <m1dnight> im serioulsy angry right now :p
[22:57] <m1dnight> how the hell
[22:57] <m1dnight> is it not fuckn possible
[22:57] <L0laapk3> all I wanted is to mine some bitcoins :'(
[22:57] <m1dnight> to create a freakin simple fn chart
[22:57] <m1dnight> UGH :p
[22:57] <rspinuz> Su7: not if you are not going to use it,  Just disable the display then.
[22:57] <m1dnight> google docs/libre office are like "oh you need these as X values? HERE THEY ARE AS Y VALUES"
[22:58] <Beldar> Viskee, That is a poll, this is support.
[22:58] <Viskee> Ahh thanks
[22:58] <Viskee> I'm attempting to use repo but it's not installed
[22:59] <Beldar> Viskee, If you state the issue, to the channel, it helps.
[23:00] <Viskee> so i downloaded it from google and used a tut i found but it still will now allow me to utilize it. I put it in ~/bin/repo and then used chmod to change it to an executable
[23:00] <onlty> Why does bash crash if I type '!' command and enter another command?
[23:00] <bekks> onlty: whats the crash message?
[23:00] <Viskee> now according to the tutorial (http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/AndroidSourceCode/article.html) it should be ready to go. Should I be in the ~/bin/repo directory to use it?
[23:01] <Viskee> i guess maybe i just answered my own question lol
[23:01] <Beldar> Viskee, As a note, you're aware of #android #android-root #android-dev I assume
[23:01] <onlty> malloc: .././parse.y:2314: assertion botched
[23:01] <onlty> realloc: start and end chunk sizes differ
[23:01] <onlty> last command: !
[23:01] <onlty> Aborting...Aborted (core dumped)
[23:01] <Viskee> Yeah maybe I should move over to #android-root
[23:01] <Viskee> Beldar: Thanks have a good one
[23:02] <bekks> onlty: whats the commandline you are entering?
[23:02] <onlty> nothing but ! and [Return] x 2
[23:02] <bekks> onlty: What do you expect to happen when entering invalid commands?
[23:03] <utusan> onlty: ! plus prev commands should do it
[23:03] <schiz0id> why lamahs loves ubuntu ??
[23:03] <utusan> it's used to exec prev commands w/o typing the long command
[23:03] <onlty> I expect it to at least do not crash and indicate that the command is invalid.
[23:04] <onlty> :/
[23:04] <kolera> hello..hey everyone can u tell me how to install packmanFM file manager
[23:05] <utusan> get the deb and then dpkg -i pkg.name
[23:05] <bekks> you dont have to get a deb - use your package manager or the software center.
[23:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> kolera: sudo apt-get install pcmanfm
[23:05] <utusan> he said  packmanFM
[23:06] <kolera> do i need to delete the old file manager after installing pcman?
[23:06] <bekks> kolera: No.
[23:07] <utusan> assuming  packmanFM is in the repo
[23:07] <utusan> if you have no need for it then delete it
[23:09] <oinksoft> does anybody know why xfce only in ubuntu so many applications have all black chrome? only a handful of themes don't have this problem
[23:09] <Su7> rspinuz: looks like bumblebee needs the nvidia driver to work. instlaling it now
[23:09] <cisconinja> guntbert: thank you , i got my ssh issue fixed, by removing and reinstalling openssh-server
[23:09] <oinksoft> the networkmanager systray menu is all black. even w/ a theme liek xfce 4.6 that colors it correctly, everything is layoued out incorrectly
[23:09] <oinksoft> buttons have no padding
[23:10] <oinksoft> i have never had this problem before using xfce w/ networkmanager, so i think it must be something specific to ubuntu.
[23:10] <kolera> i'm running backtrack5 on my other machine i,m new to that distro.i don't like the window manager bcause its sluggish,can i change to other window manager like lxde which is i like?
[23:11] <bekks> !backtrack | kolera
[23:11] <OerHeks> kolera, backtrack is discontinued, check their site :-D
[23:12] <oinksoft> here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/ew36sfd.png
[23:13] <kolera> ok..i have  problem to this distro i can't enable video when chat like skype..
[23:14] <oinksoft> see how the button has no rounded border or padding
[23:14] <oinksoft> and how the window is all black and white
[23:14] <bekks> kolera: Well, backtrack is not supported in here.
[23:14] <oinksoft> does anybody know how to fix this?
[23:14] <ShutterBC> what's the best channel to discuss a strange USB flash drive partition issue?
[23:14] <rww> kolera: /join #backtrack-linux and see what they say :)
[23:15] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> kolera: see if webcam is disabled in BIOS, if no check the driver
[23:15] <pfifo> kolera: if you like lxde, try lubuntu, and its supported here
[23:16] <awesomess3> kolera, pfifo or kubuntu (KDE) or xubuntu (XFCE)
[23:17] <kolera> my sister laptop running lxle distro i think part of ubuntu,her problem also she can't have videos when chatting..
[23:17] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> is there a significant difference between low-latency kernel and a generic one?
[23:18] <bekks> KyouReeUs4nfo_: lowlatency is for low latency, the generic isnt for low latency.
[23:18] <bekks> KyouReeUs4nfo_: Low latency like in "I have a real time application", not like in "my system feels so fast".
[23:19] <ShutterBC> low latency is probably better if you have a specific need for it -- like real time audio/video processing or something
[23:19] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> bekks, ShutterBC: agreed!
[23:19] <ShutterBC> probably not good for running a whole bunch of apps and wanting them all to be fast. :)
[23:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> ShutterBC: can't overload a low-latency kernel either,right because of priority-issues?
[23:21] <bekks> KyouReeUs4nfo_: Of course you can.
[23:21] <kolera> i think skype video calling is not supported in this distro.is there another program that can run video calling?
[23:22] <utusan> google talk/hangout
[23:22] <bekks> KyouReeUs4nfo_: It's like too many customers in a restaurant for being helped by just one waitress/waiter.
[23:22] <bekks> kolera: Backtrack is not supported in here.
[23:22] <pfifo> kolera: theres a fix for skype, its not the distro.
[23:22] <ShutterBC> OK I have a really funky situation where I had a 13.10 live USB with persistence file.  Upon reboot, it's no longer bootable.  Gparted is freaking out over a corrupt GPT table and can't read partitions, yet I can still read files when plugging it into another Ubuntu machine.
[23:23] <kolera> no..not in backtrack..its fog other distro like lxle
[23:24] <bekks> kolera: Which magically installed within minutes after you last question? ;)
[23:24] <kolera> how to fix skype?
[23:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> ShutterBC: kernel crash may be?
[23:24] <rww> !skype | kolera
[23:24] <pfifo> bekks: i would just cut her tip in half
[23:24] <kolera> i have other machines that running other distro
[23:25] <ShutterBC> KyouReeUs4nfo_, well given that the partition table is messed up I think there was corruption of the volume during use or shutdown
[23:25] <bekks> pfifo: BEing the waiter, I'd just not serve you :P
[23:25] <ShutterBC> I'm still confused how linux is still mounting a volume
[23:26] <kolera> i'm using ubuntu also..my other laptop running dual OS
[23:26] <Guest53497> to those who already know 14.04., do you recommend to switch from 12.04. ?
[23:26] <pfifo> bekks: id trik you into thinking i felt sorry for you and was about to leave a good tip, but at the last minute, leave on 62 cents
[23:26] <bekks> Guest53497: Not until it is released.
[23:26] <bekks> pfifo: I'd just not talk to you and not let me trick into offtopic.
[23:26] <Guest53497> bekks, sure. :) I mean when it is released.
[23:27] <zul__> Hi everybody. I know this is not the right group to ask something about programming, but it's a very stupid problem that many people have done in the passed. Well, I would like to add a like button in a my webpage. (I'm newbie) I created for the first time a facebook application and now I have the app code, after I created the libe button code with the counter and I copied it into my web page. I don't know why I get a wrong numbers of like. What's my mistake?
[23:28] <ShutterBC> oh nevermind -- checking dmesg it's mounting as Joliet.  I guess gparted can't figure that out :)
[23:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> ShutterBC: I wonder why though.
[23:29] <ShutterBC> zul__, are you looking for a facebook group to help you troubleshoot?
[23:29] <pfifo> ShutterBC: soinds like someone used dd to copy a iso image to it
[23:30] <zul__> ShutterBC could tell me the right facebook group?
[23:31] <ShutterBC> pfifo, yeah I'm guessing that's how it was created.  I'll just rebuild it.  still wondering why it would work fine once, then not boot again.
[23:31] <GradientVector> q
[23:32] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> pfifo: is that one reason not to use dd ?
[23:32] <idkusername> Hello everyone.
[23:32] <pfifo> KyouReeUs4nfo_: dd is one of the top 10 best unix programs
[23:33] <ShutterBC> zul__, have you already gone through the standard docs at https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/canvas ?
[23:33] <ShutterBC> dd is great.  I have used it to rescue many a hard drive
[23:34] <pfifo> KyouReeUs4nfo_: as with all things though, improper useag is going to create problems
[23:34] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> pfifo: what should have been done to prevent this issue?
[23:35] <pfifo> KyouReeUs4nfo_: well, there is isoboot provided from grub2, that is a great way to boot a usb.
[23:36] <Bashing-om> Su7: Following your troubles with BumbleBee/Nvidia-Prime // I do not think both can be installed at the same time. - mutually exclusive - HTH .
[23:37] <Su7> Bashing-om: I was just trying to find a solution to this - installing nvidia 319 didn't solve anything at all.
[23:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> pfifo: will isoboot work if grub has issues?
[23:39] <jjavaholic> pfifo:what is in your top ten unix/linux programs?
[23:41] <streulma> Hello, is Acer good to run Ubuntu on it? I had problems with HP and ASUS.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> Su7: Yeah understand ! .. but Pick one or the other -> Seems I recall that N-P disbles switching (??).
[23:41] <EleanorEllis> streulma: I run Ubuntu on an Acer without too many problems
[23:41] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> pfifo: I prefer live-USB over booting an ISO from hard-drive or from GRUB for rescue
[23:42] <pfifo> jjavaholic: sed, grep, less, tail, head, dd, cat, >> and &
[23:42] <pfifo> KyouReeUs4nfo_: boot an ISO stored on a USB?
[23:43] <pfifo> KyouReeUs4nfo_: install grub on the USB obivously
[23:43] <jjavaholic> pfifo: Is that in order of preference?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Su7: I am presntly caught up, and maybe I can be of some slight help, again, what release and card(s) are you running.
[23:44] <pfifo> jjavaholic: sed is definatly #1 the rest are un ordered
[23:44] <awesomess3> jjavaholic, vim, less, grep, find, xchat, firefox, gnome-terminal, wget, man, help, ls, bg, jobs, eog, file, mv, mkdir, sudo, cat.
[23:44] <jjavaholic> I feel bad I don't think I have ever used sed
[23:45] <pfifo> awesomess3: yeah, thats an awesome list
[23:45] <jjavaholic> I know it is in my unix in a nutshell book
[23:45] <pfifo> and I sould add man to the list as well
[23:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> jjavaholic: top 1 command-list: man
[23:46] <awesomess3> I add aunpack to my list
[23:46] <OerHeks> bug 1
[23:46] <awesomess3> sudo apt-get install atool #to use aunpack
[23:47] <awesomess3> unarchives any archive in one folder.
[23:47] <pfifo> add zcat to the list too, lets just make it a top 40
[23:48] <awesomess3> actually I lied I use xfce4-terminal not gnome-terminal.
[23:49] <ShutterBC> ahh... the live usb was created on a mac
[23:49] <awesomess3> because I currently am using xubuntu. But I really like the idea of kubuntu, lubuntu, and gubuntu
[23:49] <arrith> awesomess3: ubuntu gnome*
[23:49] <ShutterBC> so this guide was used, and doesn't cover grub install from mac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[23:50] <ShutterBC> (still doesn't explain why the drive is no longer bootable.  I'd better check the flash drive for damage)
[23:51] <awesomess3> ShutterBC, fsck.vfat
[23:53] <ShutterBC> awesomess3, it's not vfat
[23:56] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> ShutterBC: boot flag issue may be
[23:57] <bekks> KyouReeUs4nfo_: the boot flag isnt actively used for about 15 years now in linux.
[23:57] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> bekks: :)
[23:59] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> bekks: so if I partition my hard drive and uncheck boot flag from primary active partition, will it still boot?
[23:59] <bekks> KyouReeUs4nfo_: As long as your bootloader knows what to do - of course.
[23:59] <ShutterBC> found it -- it boots, but errors on /casper/vmlinuz.efi not found
[23:59] <ShutterBC> something is legit corrupted imo