[00:00] <brainwash> slickymaster: you should also add a comment and explain how you were able to reproduce the bug
[00:02] <brainwash> it looks like we can blame file systems which don't support the fancy extended attributes
[00:08] <slickymaster> ok brainwash 
[00:18] <brainwash> slickymaster: is bug 1190299 still around?
[00:18] <brainwash> probably caused by thunar's tree view
[00:19] <slickymaster> nopes brainwash 
[00:20] <brainwash> can you please update the status of the report then
[00:20]  * slickymaster can't even remember the steps that lead to that one
[00:20] <brainwash> hit super+f? :D
[00:21] <slickymaster> lol
[00:21] <brainwash> we got so many thunar reports, a high percentage of them are segfaults :/
[00:21] <slickymaster> do you mean to mark it as Invalid?
[00:21] <brainwash> mark it as incomplete
[00:22] <slickymaster> ok
[00:23] <jjfrv8> ochosi, I hope I did what you requested correctly wrt to the whiskermen-defaults MR
[00:25] <slickymaster> hey jjfrv8, how's everything?
[00:25] <jjfrv8> slickymaster, okay here, thanks. how you?
[00:26] <slickymaster> fine also :)
[00:27] <jjfrv8> you've been burning the midnight oil a lot lately ;)
[00:27] <slickymaster> nah, I'll leave that to Unit193 
[00:28] <Unit193> (Midnight is early.)
[00:28] <slickymaster> it's half an hour paste it over here
[00:29] <Unit193> -e
[00:42] <ochosi> thanks jjfrv8 
[00:42] <jjfrv8> welcome. sorry it took so long
[00:44] <ochosi> no worries really
[00:50] <brainwash> ochosi: bug 1295900
[00:52] <brainwash> maybe related to our lightdm gtk greeter bug
[05:16] <AussieDownUnder> Oi bros & hoes. When is some new ubuntu/xubuntu flyers coming out. I want to put some updated ones up & around the place.
[05:17] <AussieDownUnder> Would like to see some flyers designed to be foldable to put in info board holder/pocket/pigeon hole things.
[06:11]  * fibz_ pokes zequence: the image on the xubuntu.org homepage is a bit worrisome
[06:15] <fibz_> take a look at the clock on all the new official screenshots?
[07:03] <Noskcaj> Why doesn't xubuntu support internet time by default?
[07:47] <Unit193> fibz_: Wow, alright.
[09:45] <aussiehomebrewer> Anybody know the name of the bottom dockbar that was in the 14.04 pre-release? The one that got taken out
[09:50] <ochosi> aussiehomebrewer: that was only another xfce panel
[09:50] <ochosi> with a few launchers on it
[09:50] <ochosi> just add a new panel, make it height 48px, add a few launchers and set it to autohide, that's it
[10:15] <aussiehomebrewer> Fiiiine, let's do all the things that you want to do.
[10:15] <aussiehomebrewer> Nah cheers, I can't believe I didn't work that out myself
[10:15] <aussiehomebrewer> Everyday I learn how much I don't know or how intelligent I'm not
[10:19] <aussiehomebrewer> Is there anyway to change a live usb to allow the live sessions to be saved? I know when I made the live usb it gave me an option for setting a size for saving the session data but I said no
[10:20] <ali1234> just make it again
[10:21] <aussiehomebrewer> Yeah, I'll have to once the full release is out anyway
[10:24] <ali1234> anyway, the answer is no because it modifies the partitions before writing them if you ask for session saving
[11:03] <ochosi> brainwash: don't think that bug is related to ours, ours only happened with nouveau afaik
[11:11] <ochosi> anything is possible with graphics drivers though...
[11:12] <forestpiskie> ochosi: I don't see the corruption with nvidia installed
[11:12] <ochosi> yeah, me neither
[11:12] <ochosi> it's a nouveau-specific issue
[11:12] <forestpiskie> yep
[11:12] <ochosi> the bug is even still assigned to nouveau :)
[11:12] <forestpiskie> :)
[11:13] <ochosi> anyway, taking off for the day
[11:13] <elfy> have a good one - I've just got up :)
[11:25] <elfy> knome: just followed fibz clue to look at the screenshots at xubuntu.org - did you know that Friday gets shortened to Sex ... 
[11:29] <zoidberg_> hi there
[11:29] <elfy> hello
[11:29] <zoidberg_> i have experienced something strange when updating to 14.04 beta
[11:31] <zoidberg_> i had the network-manager deinstalled, and wicd installed. After the update something was disabling my wifi via rfkill soft-block, i solved this problem by installing the network manager again and deinstalling wicd, i'm not sure what caused the problem, i believe that it has something todo with the Network Manager, and not really with wicd.
[11:31] <elfy> njo idea I'm afraid 
[11:32] <zoidberg_> because with disabled wicd and only wpa_supplicant it didn't work and with wicd disabled and airmon it didn't work
[11:33] <zoidberg_> hm maybe i should write a bug report... i thought maybe someone would know that issue, making the writing of a bug report unnecessary :-)
[11:33] <brainwash> zoidberg_: I suggest that you also ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:33] <elfy> if someone knew then it would be a bug and then we'd know :)
[11:33] <elfy> brainwash: +1 to that
[11:38] <brainwash> Tumblerdwatcher v 1.0 - http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8722
[11:38] <brainwash> what the heck
[11:42] <brainwash> but it's true, tumbler isn't working properly sometimes
[11:42] <brainwash> eating memory, segfaulting,..
[11:45] <brainwash> ochosi: what do you think, should add more debugging output to the greeter?
[11:45] <brainwash> for future releases
[11:46] <brainwash> it won't hurt
[11:49] <knome> elfy, yes...
[11:51] <elfy> ok :)
[11:59] <knome> we will replace them for T
[11:59] <knome> so i don't think it's a huge problem
[11:59] <elfy> okey doke
[11:59] <elfy> I'd not noticed myself
[12:18] <starrats> Hello everyone and good morning!
[12:19] <pleia2> good morning
[12:21] <knome> elfy, pleia2: do we want to write a spec of what kind of screenshots we want for T on the website so we don't need to do that on the rush?
[12:21] <starrats> I had to send a bug report to ubuntu-bug on terminal about 30 minutes ago concerning a software.db.update, the output told me to file a bug report so I did.
[12:29] <brainwash> starrats: that's a known warning, it pops up every time the software center package is upgraded
[12:30] <brainwash> thanks for your report, I'll try to find the initial report
[12:47] <elfy> knome: possibly would be an idea - though on the other hand, simple, uncluttered, whatever cc licence doesn't appear to me to be requiring one
[12:59] <knome> mmh
[13:00] <knome> bbl
[13:07] <starrats> brainwash I got an email from the ubuntu bug report folks, can't remember his name but he said it wasd a 'regression' and the initial bug report # is 1161283 or at least that was on the email.
[13:09] <brainwash> starrats: yes, it was me who replied to your report :)
[13:10] <starrats> aah so you are .....lol can't remember 
[13:10] <starrats> okay thank you
[13:10] <brainwash> if you open the linked report and read the latest comments, you will see that more people noticed this warning while upgrading packages in trusty
[13:11] <starrats> so it's a 'normal' thing/error that shows up?
[13:11] <starrats> ah okay brainwash
[13:11] <brainwash> no, the warning should not appear anymore, but strangely it does in trusty
[13:16] <starrats> ah okay but it show up and I did what it said to do.  What should I do if it shows up again when I do my update/upgrades?
[13:19] <brainwash> check the linked report for bug status changes
[13:19] <brainwash> and comments
[13:20] <starrats> ah okay will do
[13:20] <brainwash> in the meantime just ignore this warning
[13:22] <starrats> okay will do
[13:23] <starrats> read some of te comments earlier and just a few minutes ago, so I understand
[21:31] <brainwash> Noskcaj: please change the importance level to 'wishlist' bug 782549
[21:31] <Noskcaj> brainwash, You really need some triage rights
[21:32] <brainwash> and you need upload rights :P
[21:32] <brainwash> joking :D
[21:32] <brainwash> I really should write the application
[21:33] <Noskcaj> brainwash, DON'T EVEN!
[21:33] <Noskcaj> ;)
[21:33] <Noskcaj> but yeah, bug triage is pretty easy to get
[21:33] <brainwash> I'm just afraid of seeing all the hidden/private reports
[21:34] <Noskcaj> brainwash, in xfce there's not that many
[21:36] <brainwash> there are so many lp bug reports, even more on the Xfce bug tracker
[21:37] <brainwash> it somehow feels like development is slowing down
[21:39] <brainwash> Noskcaj: so, do you plan to also patch libxfce4ui?
[21:40] <brainwash> to fix the help button is applications like thunar
[21:41] <Noskcaj> I forgot about that one, doing now
[21:43] <brainwash> great
[21:46] <Noskcaj> brainwash, Could you try and find which packages use xfce_dialog_show_help_with_version() ? bug 1289755 says they will need rebuilding
[21:48] <brainwash> mmh
[21:49] <brainwash> should be quite a few packages
[21:50] <brainwash> oh, that's the new function
[21:55] <brainwash> Noskcaj: so packages which use the new function and were built before the latest libxfce4ui package update?
[21:56] <Noskcaj> yeah
[21:56] <Noskcaj> if there are any
[21:57] <brainwash> not quite sure how to find those =S
[21:57] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:57] <Noskcaj> Don't worry then
[21:58] <brainwash> apt-get source all packages and grep? :D
[21:59] <brainwash> I should avoid using "dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info" for my PPA builds, or?
[22:01] <brainwash> adding this seems to be any easy way to avoid build aborts
[22:01] <Noskcaj> mr_pouit, Since you fixed the bug, any idea what needs rebuilding?
[22:04] <Noskcaj> brainwash, when possible, stick to what ubuntu has for PPAs
[22:08] <brainwash> what ubuntu has for PPAs? I don't quite understand this
[22:09] <brainwash> I am trying to set up a daily ppa for Xfce packages, well, I was trying to
[22:11] <Noskcaj> brainwash, i mean, when possible, use the same packaging as ubuntu does
[22:12] <brainwash> I do
[22:12] <brainwash> I copied the debian folder from the ubuntu package
[22:12] <brainwash> and I've added extra stuff until it finally built successfully 
[22:12] <brainwash> :)
[22:14] <brainwash> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+junk/xfwm4-debian/view/head:/debian/rules
[22:15] <brainwash> so I had to add the "override_dh_shlibdeps", but I assume that this is just a bad way of handling the actual problem
[22:17] <Noskcaj> I'm not to well versed with shlibs (i know nothing about C), but that override doesn't look too good
[22:21] <brainwash> ok, I'll try to resolve this properly before building more packages
[23:07] <brainwash> Unit193: bug 1296058
[23:08] <brainwash> light-locker is disabled for xuubntu's live mode now, where can I find that change?