[00:24] <Fudge> hi, can someone please tell me, if you have a few programs running under various workspaces, what happens visuaally when you push the alt key, as you were about to push alt+tab?
[00:25] <Fudge> I am blind and use a screen reader 'orca' but when I push alt tab orca reads the title of the window, like firefox etc and it is very annoying. Wondering if it could be something to do with compiz
[00:45] <notwist> bekks: that part about kernel updates is incorrect I think.. but it used to be true. The drivers support DKMS now or whatever its called
[01:05] <Daekdroom> Fudge, Tapping alt opens the HUD, through which you can type to search for menu commands of an application. Holding ALT shows the menubar where otherwise is the window title. Releasing ALT will then make the titlebar show the window title again, which might be why Orca reads the title of the window.
[01:07] <Fudge> Daekdroom:  thanks mate, I have figured that out too now by talking to some other guys, I disable the HUD for now so it is the title bar. I did not know that it was hidden until alt is used
[03:12] <WizardGed> hey having a tiny problem
[03:12] <WizardGed> qdbus kindve exploded
[03:14] <WizardGed> and it's a major problem anyone that updates right now will be unable to start KDE
[03:25] <frecel-pi> raspi power!
[04:41] <oinksoft> i'm running 14.04. i installed the new mate-desktop package. why wouldn't i see MATE in lightdm?
[04:41] <oinksoft> this must be a bug
[07:19] <Laibsch> after upgrading from precise to trusty the lightdm login screen now shows "ja" (for japanese) and it is the only option.  Does anybody understand why this would be?
[07:19] <Laibsch> -> bug 1296209
[07:30] <Laibsch> brb
[07:43] <sandGorgon> anyone running 14.04 on a macbook pro ? how's the experience?
[08:23] <Strit> I got a problem with my samba/nautilus shares... When trying to make a nautilus share it says net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone". Any idea how to fix this?
[08:26] <Strit> Tried adding them with Samba-config-tool manually, but when I try to access the "server" it isn't visible, and through the IP I get a password prompt (even though it's set to guest use).
[08:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:51] <Laibsch> Am I blind or is there indeed no "Privacy panel"? bug 1296230
[10:12] <Strit> Laibsch, I got my privacy panel just like in 13.10.
[10:39] <Laibsch> Strit: thank you for your reply.  Do you have an idea what package that panel ships in?  I was upgrading from precise.
[10:42] <Strit> Laibsch, sorry. I did a fresh install of 14.04, so would not know what pacakage it is.
[10:42] <Laibsch> OK
[10:42] <Laibsch> does it open a separate window?
[10:44] <Laibsch> If so, can you please enter "xprop | | grep CLASS" into a terminal and then click just inside of that window somewhere?
[10:44] <Laibsch> it will tell us what program runs inside the window
[10:59] <llutz> single |
[11:00] <Laibsch> llutz: yes, good point ;-)
[11:00] <Laibsch> llutz: do you have that privacy panel?
[11:00] <llutz> can't say, ii don't even have *buntu atm :)
[11:03] <darklight_> nautilus insists that my usb key is mounted as read only when it's not I can do whatever I want from a terminal but not according to nautilus
[11:23] <darklight_> there's something horribly wrong with disks and formatting and permissions on usb key
[11:23] <darklight_> *keys
[11:23] <darklight_> I could't even chmod +x on a file with my root account
[11:24] <darklight_> disks can't format a thing it plays a game of pretend
[11:24] <darklight_> this on two different usb keys
[11:24] <llutz> darklight_: what filesystem on the key?
[11:24] <darklight_> llutz, vfat
[11:25] <llutz> darklight_: well, doesn't sound like a unix-fs, how would chmod work?
[11:26] <darklight_> llutz, mm that's a good point actually, still disks did not format them when asked to, I shall try executing an executable off it see if I can
[11:28] <darklight_> I get a permission denied to run an executable with my root account that seems unlikely
[11:28] <llutz> darklight_: is it mounted noexec?
[11:29] <darklight_> nope
[11:29] <darklight_> rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2
[11:29] <darklight_> I'm afk for a few minutes be back later
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:47] <darklight_> llutz, I'm back that took a while longer than I expected
[12:50] <darklight_> I figured out the executable not working, still disks fails to format usb keys
[13:09] <darklight_> on an unrelated note firefox cpu usage is obscene, to load a page like a g+ profile it uses 100% of all cores
[14:13] <alakulihal> hello all
[14:13] <alakulihal> I use trusty tahr but shortcuts not work
[14:14] <alakulihal> ex: screenshot
[14:22] <perlsaiyan> Does 14.04 have support for high dpi displays?  I have a 4k monitor and the tiny menus are killing me
[14:22] <perlsaiyan> I found the display slider for title bars and icons, but that doesn't change the menus themselves, or fonts on pages, etc
[14:22] <cassio> hey. I have a friend who needs to install on a pentium M system, meaning the PAE flag needs to be forced which is a new feature in 14.04
[14:22] <cassio> if I install 14.04 today
[14:23] <cassio> will he be able to upgrade to 14.04 final later in april?
[14:23] <k1l> all dev installs get final installs with regular updates
[14:23] <k1l> s/get/become/
[14:34] <darklight_> cassio, yep. just keep doing the updates, or apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:41] <darklight_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/1059872 this should really be fixed or just remove/modify the functionality in gnome-disks
[14:41] <darklight_> it works ok if the partition is removed and recreated but not when simply formatting
[15:05] <rommel> darklight_, i missed cassios question but i think it was in reference to upgrading of 14.04... if installing daily build and performing updates this install will become same as lts
[15:06] <darklight_> yes
[15:06] <rommel> awesome... thanks
[16:07] <jack> heya
[16:08] <jack> how do i get a saucy to trusty? do-release-upgrade says nothing new...
[16:09] <k1l> jack: you need the -d parameter
[16:09] <k1l> since trusty is in the developer mode, still
[16:09] <jack> oh cool, thx
[16:11] <jack> wtf...same output
[16:11] <jack> do-release-upgrade -d
[16:11] <jack> Neue Veröffentlichungen von Ubuntu werden gesucht
[16:11] <jack> Keine neue Freigabe gefunden
[16:11] <jack> :(
[16:14] <k1l> did you use sudo?
[16:26] <jack> k1l: what now?
 did you use sudo?
[16:26] <jack> yeah
[16:27] <jack> well, it was my root-terminal
[16:27] <k1l> maybe try to switch to the main servers?
[16:27] <jack> so no but yes ;p
[16:28] <jack> huh?
[16:28] <jack> edit sources.list?
[16:28] <penguin42> it's best not to, since that doesn't pick up some fixes that do-release-upgrade does
[16:29] <jack> ok
[16:29] <jack> sounds ubuntu-ish :) fine
[16:30] <jack> so how do i get to trusty now?
[16:30] <jpds> Check: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:41] <jack> ...had to reboot
[16:42] <jack> how do i get to trusty now?
[16:43] <k1l> check the main servers, what does the release-prompt say? what does lsb_release -a say?
[16:44] <jack> $ lsb_release -a
[16:44] <jack> No LSB modules are available.
[16:44] <jack> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[16:44] <jack> Description:	Ubuntu 13.10
[16:44] <jack> Release:	13.10
[16:44] <jack> Codename:	saucy
[16:44] <BluesKaj> jack, sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:45] <jack> doesn't do anything :/
[16:45] <jack> one sec
[16:45] <BluesKaj> jack, make sure you update and upgrade 13.10 first
[16:46] <plasma> jack: is that you?
[16:46] <Dry_Lips> Will Libreoffice in Ubuntus repos be updated to 4.2.2?
[16:46] <jack> is updated...
[16:46] <jack> plasma, klar
[16:46] <plasma> :D
[16:47] <jack> BluesKaj, apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing
[16:47] <Dry_Lips> jack, the current Libreoffice is 4.2.1.1...
[16:47] <k1l> please put the whole outputs into a pastebin
[16:47] <Dry_Lips> but will it be upgraded to 4.2.2?
[16:48] <jack> plasma: gibt nur einen jack auf freenode ;p
[16:48] <k1l> update, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade -d,...
[16:49] <BluesKaj> jack, you misread , it's udo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:49] <BluesKaj> sudo
[16:50] <jack> one sec
[17:32] <IdleOne> !schedule
[18:07] <rigo88> hi. can i install on Linux cubieboard-server 3.4.43 #1 PREEMPT Wed May 29 13:37:24 CST 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux the .deb kernel files from kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?
[18:07] <rigo88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7142316/
[18:08] <k1l> for arm specific questions better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[18:08] <k1l> (sorry to re-redirect you :/ )
[18:09] <rigo88> :))
[18:41] <kdeder> hi, anyone use a gtx 750 in their rig?
[18:50] <cassio> I have a question. is it possible we could get the installer to spit out a nicer error message when the pae flag is lacking on a pentium M processor? I just spent several long days tracking this down, and when I eventually found the support document it was fine, but I'd like others not to have to go through my pain. The BIOS knows what the processor is, so why shouldn't ubuntu? (Pentium M doesn't flag as having PAE support, even
[18:50] <cassio>  though it does.) It would be great if the installer could say "pentium M detected. force PAE? (yes/no) or even consult this url
[18:53] <progers> Hello
[18:53] <progers> I have some problems with cannon i-sensys MF-4018 printer, it just say
[18:53] <progers> "src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 514, err = 0¥nError Response:ReqNo=2, SeqNo=3,opvpErrorNo=-2" without printing anything
[18:54] <progers> I have installed the drivers from official cannon site
[18:54] <progers> i have Kubuntu 14.04 amd64
[18:59] <BluesKaj> progers, there are 2 drivers available in the kubuntu repos for canon printers depending on your model
[19:00] <progers> BluesKaj: I have downloaded and installed the cndrvcups-common_2.70-1_amd64.deb and cndrvcups-ufr2-uk_2.70-1_amd64.deb
[19:00] <progers> From the official site
[19:03] <BluesKaj> progers, this is 14.04, doubt the drivers support in this OS
[19:04] <progers> BluesKaj: I have tryied it on Ubuntu 12.04 too, but not worked for me
[19:04] <BluesKaj> choose the canon drivers available in muon, progers
[19:05] <progers> BluesKaj: You mean that i have to type the driver name in the search in muon?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> progers, type canon-printer in muon search
[19:07] <progers> BluesKaj: found Mtink
[19:07] <cassio> progers, trust the repositories more than the official site for a beta release please
[19:07] <cassio> at least that would be my uninformed instinct
[19:08] <cassio> I'll be able to test to see if a deskjet 1100 works soon
[19:08] <progers> cassio: But if i know how to install this driver from the repo i will not use the offical site
[19:08] <BluesKaj> progers, not cannon, it's canon
[19:09] <cassio> well then ask that question
[19:09] <cassio> you need to use apt-get undoubtedly
[19:09] <BluesKaj> official site isn't  official for kubuntu, progers
[19:09] <progers> cassio: i did not found anything about canon repo so i tried to install from offical
[19:09] <BluesKaj> especially a dev OS
[19:09] <progers> BluesKaj: Yes canon-printer not cannon-printer :)
[19:10] <cassio> can you ask in the #kubuntu channel or #kubuntu+1 if that exists
[19:10] <cassio> why are you running 14.04
[19:10] <cassio> did your printer work in 13.10?
[19:10] <progers> No
[19:10] <BluesKaj> cassio, I told him to come here since it's 14.04
[19:10] <cassio> I understand
[19:10] <cassio> I'm just getting the history
[19:10] <cassio> so it didn't work in 13.10
[19:11] <cassio> why did you think it would work in 14.04
[19:11] <cassio> general rule is whenever upgrading an OS, you don't upgrade one that is broken.
[19:11] <BluesKaj> progers, remove the the drivers if you installed them
[19:11] <BluesKaj> from the canon site
[19:11] <cassio> I'll let you take it from here blueskaj
[19:11] <cassio> thank you.
[19:11] <progers> Don't know who give me that link but it has not linux
[19:12] <progers> Just mac and win
[19:12] <cassio> I'm confused. what did you download, and from where, and how did you run it?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> then you can't use the drivers anyway
[19:14] <progers> cassio: The mf-4010
[19:14] <cassio> ok that's a model number
[19:14] <cassio> what does it say under mac?
[19:15] <progers> cassio: By searching all the google, i found that mf-4018 can use mf-4010 driver
[19:15] <progers> cassio: I don't have mac
[19:15] <cassio> does it provide drivers or say they are built into the operating system? (CUPS)
[19:15] <progers> BluesKaj: I removed that driver what next
[19:15] <cassio> progers, but linux uses the same printing system
[19:15] <cassio> is your printer laser or inkjet
[19:16] <progers> cassio: So install the mac driver?
[19:16] <progers> cassio: laser
[19:16] <cassio> no don't install the mac driver
[19:16] <cassio> blueskaj, can he use a generic postscript driver?
[19:17] <progers> I don't want use windows just because my printer is not working :(
[19:17] <BluesKaj> printer-driver-cjet looks like the one
[19:17] <cassio> projers, that's irrelevant
[19:17] <cassio> so he runs apt-get and grabs that?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> cassio, my printer skills are rather limited so I just send anything that needs printing to my wife's windows pc and print from there since lexmark has no linux driver available anyway
[19:20] <cassio> yeah, but if you know what the package name is, and it's in the repo, and the repos are in the allowed list
[19:20] <cassio> then he should be able to grab it
[19:20] <cassio> he can use the ubuntu software center or synaptic if he's not comfortable with apt-get
[19:20] <cassio> is my understanding correct?
[19:21] <progers> I have synaptic
[19:21] <BluesKaj> cassio, yes in kubuntu the packager manager is called muon, but the simple answer is yes
[19:22] <BluesKaj> progers, why synaptic , muon is now stable and effective
[19:23] <cassio> don't let me confuse you
[19:23] <cassio> use muon
[19:23] <progers> BluesKaj: Because moun is software center?
[19:23] <kdeder> use wine?
[19:23] <cassio> no, not wine
[19:24] <kdeder> that printer has poor linux support, if any
[19:24] <progers> If i type g++ in muon it give me nothing
[19:24] <BluesKaj> progers, yes
[19:24] <progers> If i type g++ in synaptic it gives me g++
[19:24] <cassio> is his repo listing not correct?
[19:25] <lordievader> progers: Synaptic is a package manager, Muon (well part of it anyway) is a software center.
[19:25] <lordievader> Those are different things.
[19:26] <progers> lordievader: so why BluesKaj say to me to use the muon instead of synaptic?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> muon is a package manager too
[19:26] <progers> BluesKaj: I can't find g++ in muon
[19:26] <lordievader> Yes, Muon also has a package manager side.
[19:26] <BluesKaj> progers, I do
[19:26] <lordievader> progers: Search in the menus for Muon package Manager.
[19:27] <kdeder> progers, are you Russian?
[19:27] <progers> Oh you all mean that i should download muon package manager,  i thought that i must try that in muon discover
[19:27] <progers> kdeder: How did u know that?
[19:27] <kdeder> ;)
[19:28] <BluesKaj> progers, muon is default on 14.04 Kubuntu
[19:28] <progers> BluesKaj: But i downloaded it
[19:28] <progers> BluesKaj: Its not installed by default
[19:28] <kdeder> I found a link - I don't if it will help - maybe you found it before?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> then you don't have all the proper repositories enabled
[19:29] <BluesKaj> yes it is installed by default progers , check your repos
[19:30] <BluesKaj> which desktop are you running progers ?
[19:30] <progers> BluesKaj: what do u mean?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> KDE or Unity/Gnome
[19:31] <progers> BluesKaj: KDE
[19:33] <BluesKaj> how did you install kubuntu then ?
[19:35] <progers> BluesKaj: downloaded the iso then installed on usb then installed kubuntu
[19:36] <lordievader> progers: Hmm, that should get you the package manager. Let me see if that is a separate package.
[19:36] <penguin42> progers: What does   cat /etc/issue  say on your machine?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> ok have you updated and upgraded since installing?
[19:36] <progers> Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch) \n \l
[19:37] <penguin42> good
[19:37] <penguin42> progers: abnd dpkg -l | grep kubuntu-desktop
[19:37] <progers> Oh yes about 600 mb downloaded some bad things, then all the system crashed and then i could not startx it say that i dont have dbus, but i installed it from qt5 lib
[19:37] <lordievader> progers: You might need muon-installer
[19:38] <progers> ii  kubuntu-desktop                          1.305                                  amd64        Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system
[19:38] <penguin42> good
[19:38] <penguin42> hey - qt5?!
[19:39] <progers> Yes some dbus or i don't know what was that wanted qt5
[19:39] <progers> So i can startx
[19:39] <penguin42> progers: That's REALLY odd
[19:40] <penguin42> progers: You sure you've not got something like project-neon installed (next KDE test)
[19:40] <progers> penguin42: don't know what are u talking about :)
[19:40] <BluesKaj> well ,i trhink muon isn't the only problem he gonna have
[19:41] <penguin42> progers: I don't know what you've got there, but if it's depending on qt5 it's not a standard Trusty Kubuntu
[19:41] <progers> Ok i have bad day, first i dont have wgetpaste and my printer not working and now i have some project-neon -_-
[19:41] <progers> qdbus-libqt5 i think
[19:42] <penguin42> I have no qt5 packages installed
[19:43] <lordievader> No Kubu Trusty shouldn't have Qt5. It might have 4.13 beta, but that also doesn't depend on Qt5.
[19:44] <progers> I really don't want to use windows just because i have some problems with printer and some qt libraries
[19:45] <BluesKaj> progers, where did you get the idea to install a ppa for qt5
[19:45] <BluesKaj> qt4 is default still
[19:45] <progers> I did not install any repositories
[19:46] <BluesKaj> weird
[19:46] <progers> sudo apt-get install qdbus-qt5
[19:46] <progers> Then startx worked well
[19:46] <penguin42> progers: It's not the fact that you installed qt5 that worries me, it's the fact that something needed you to
[19:46] <penguin42> hmm you said startx, not tried startx for ages, I just use kdm
[19:47] <progers> I hate lightdm so i installed kdm then i have some errors with dbus
[19:47] <progers> Tried rc-update add dbus default
[19:47] <progers> not worked for me
[19:47] <progers> Google did not give me anything new
[19:48] <progers> Then i typed qdbus and i saw a qt5 directory
[19:48] <progers> Then apt-cache search qdbus
[19:48] <progers> then sudo apt-get install qdbus-qt5
[19:48]  * BluesKaj backs off , this is just too strange
[19:49] <progers> I did not found anything strange here :)
[19:49] <progers> I just want to make my printer works:)
[19:53] <progers> So where i can find some help to fix the printer?
[19:53] <penguin42> progers: Maybe try http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[19:53] <penguin42> progers: I don't know anyone with a cannon printer
[19:54] <progers> penguin42: no i can't see my mf-4018 here
[19:55] <penguin42> progers: Is there an entry for a number just a bit smaller than it - ie. is this just this years model
[19:55] <BluesKaj> i used to have one yrs ago and it was troublesome even on windows 98
[19:56] <progers> BluesKaj: windows 7 works with this printer fine
[19:59] <penguin42> progers: I'd check /var/log/cups to see if there is any indication of what's up with the driver you installed from cannon
[20:01] <BluesKaj> progers, look in your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure you have universe and multiverse universe debs enabled without a # in front
[20:03] <progers> BluesKaj: http://bpaste.net/show/192756/
[20:04] <progers> penguin http://bpaste.net/show/192757/
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ok then your install obviously went bad , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , progers
[20:06] <BluesKaj> I have to leave, it's dinnertime here and its been along day , so goodluck all
[20:06] <progers> BluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:06] <progers> Ok
[20:44] <t1mp> hello
[20:44] <t1mp> I'm running trusty, and since today (or perhaps since some days ago, I don't reboot often), after rebooting, I get lightdm, but when I login I get an empty screen
[20:44] <t1mp> compiz or unity won't start..
[20:44] <t1mp> does anyone have a similar problem or know if there is a new bug (and how to work around it?)
[20:48] <progers> t1mp: I am not proffecional but can you show the /var/log/Xorg.0.log at pastebin
[20:49] <t1mp> progers: that's a challenge. Mouse doesn't work in my console and I cannot log into my graphical environment
[20:49] <progers> oh
[20:50] <progers> you are at console now?
[20:50] <t1mp> yes
[20:50] <progers> irssi?
[20:50] <t1mp> yes
[20:50] <t1mp> well my irssi runs remotely in a screen :)
[20:50] <progers> Ok u have wgetpaste?
[20:51] <t1mp> no, but I can install stuff
[20:51] <bekks> pastebinit will do the same job
[20:51] <t1mp> is that useful if I don't even have a mouse cursor in console to copy anything?
[20:51] <progers> bekks: just used gentoo, and don't know anything else than wgetpaste :)
[20:51] <t1mp> Xorg.0.log ends with (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
[20:52] <bekks> t1mp: Just install gpm then. :)
[20:52] <t1mp> well.. I cannot type everything.. copy&past would be useful
[20:52] <t1mp> bekks: ahhh yes, thanks :)
[20:53] <progers> t1mp: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:53] <t1mp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7143131/
[20:54] <t1mp> progers: thanks :)
[20:55] <t1mp> I don't see errors in my log
[20:55] <progers> t1mp: startx
[20:57] <progers> t1mp: ?
[20:57] <t1mp> wow, that's interesting.
[20:57] <progers> What
[20:58] <t1mp> on alt+ctrl+F7 I still have my X running that I had before, but without window manager or windows
[20:58] <t1mp> startx seems to start a new X and restores a session.. it has my browser open, but now window manager
[20:58] <t1mp> just fullscreen chromium that I can use, but I cannot start other apps or switch between windows (if there are any others)
[20:58] <t1mp> I think compiz or unity are the problem
[20:58] <progers> t1mp: oh u use unity
[20:59] <progers> I am on kde
[20:59] <progers> Don't know much about unity
[20:59] <t1mp> how do I pick my wm/desktop env in lightdm?
[21:00] <t1mp> I just installed xfce because unity didn't start but I don't see an option on the graphical login screen to use it
[21:00] <progers> t1mp: so u have 2 enviroment
[21:00] <progers> unity and xfce
[21:01] <t1mp> yes, xfce I installed after I couldn't run unity anymore
[21:01] <t1mp> ah. I killed lightdm, and with startxfce4 I can run that one.
[21:01] <t1mp> so the problem must be with compiz or unity
[21:23]  * t1mp can't find what's the problem
[21:23] <t1mp> downloading a new trusty image...
[21:33] <SorenHolm> Hi
[21:33] <SorenHolm> I have pulseaudio started up twice. It also happens on the live image. Whom starts it?
[21:34] <SorenHolm> Oh yeah - I'm talking kubuntu here. :)
[22:15] <fibz_> just installed 14.04.  The only available video resolution is 1024x768x76Hz, no other options available in arandr. lspci lists the graphics chipset as an Intel G31/G33.   anyone know how i can get my LCD's native resolution of 1440x900?
[22:17] <fibz_> having a brain fart and cant remember what to google for
[22:41] <fibz_> google is not my friend today. it is refusing to list any of the official ubuntu help resources in the search results without using the "site:" switch....