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Fudgehi, can someone please tell me, if you have a few programs running under various workspaces, what happens visuaally when you push the alt key, as you were about to push alt+tab?00:24
FudgeI am blind and use a screen reader 'orca' but when I push alt tab orca reads the title of the window, like firefox etc and it is very annoying. Wondering if it could be something to do with compiz00:25
notwistbekks: that part about kernel updates is incorrect I think.. but it used to be true. The drivers support DKMS now or whatever its called00:45
DaekdroomFudge, Tapping alt opens the HUD, through which you can type to search for menu commands of an application. Holding ALT shows the menubar where otherwise is the window title. Releasing ALT will then make the titlebar show the window title again, which might be why Orca reads the title of the window.01:05
FudgeDaekdroom:  thanks mate, I have figured that out too now by talking to some other guys, I disable the HUD for now so it is the title bar. I did not know that it was hidden until alt is used01:07
WizardGedhey having a tiny problem03:12
WizardGedqdbus kindve exploded03:12
WizardGedand it's a major problem anyone that updates right now will be unable to start KDE03:14
frecel-piraspi power!03:25
oinksofti'm running 14.04. i installed the new mate-desktop package. why wouldn't i see MATE in lightdm?04:41
oinksoftthis must be a bug04:41
Laibschafter upgrading from precise to trusty the lightdm login screen now shows "ja" (for japanese) and it is the only option.  Does anybody understand why this would be?07:19
Laibsch-> bug 129620907:19
ubottubug 1296209 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "login only offers japanese environment" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129620907:19
Laibschbrb07:30
sandGorgonanyone running 14.04 on a macbook pro ? how's the experience?07:43
StritI got a problem with my samba/nautilus shares... When trying to make a nautilus share it says net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone". Any idea how to fix this?08:23
StritTried adding them with Samba-config-tool manually, but when I try to access the "server" it isn't visible, and through the IP I get a password prompt (even though it's set to guest use).08:26
lordievaderGood morning.08:58
LaibschAm I blind or is there indeed no "Privacy panel"? bug 129623009:51
ubottubug 1296230 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "referenced privacy panel is missing" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129623009:51
StritLaibsch, I got my privacy panel just like in 13.10.10:12
LaibschStrit: thank you for your reply.  Do you have an idea what package that panel ships in?  I was upgrading from precise.10:39
StritLaibsch, sorry. I did a fresh install of 14.04, so would not know what pacakage it is.10:42
LaibschOK10:42
Laibschdoes it open a separate window?10:42
LaibschIf so, can you please enter "xprop | | grep CLASS" into a terminal and then click just inside of that window somewhere?10:44
Laibschit will tell us what program runs inside the window10:44
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llutzsingle |10:59
Laibschllutz: yes, good point ;-)11:00
Laibschllutz: do you have that privacy panel?11:00
llutzcan't say, ii don't even have *buntu atm :)11:00
darklight_nautilus insists that my usb key is mounted as read only when it's not I can do whatever I want from a terminal but not according to nautilus11:03
darklight_there's something horribly wrong with disks and formatting and permissions on usb key11:23
darklight_*keys11:23
darklight_I could't even chmod +x on a file with my root account11:23
darklight_disks can't format a thing it plays a game of pretend11:24
darklight_this on two different usb keys11:24
llutzdarklight_: what filesystem on the key?11:24
darklight_llutz, vfat11:24
llutzdarklight_: well, doesn't sound like a unix-fs, how would chmod work?11:25
darklight_llutz, mm that's a good point actually, still disks did not format them when asked to, I shall try executing an executable off it see if I can11:26
darklight_I get a permission denied to run an executable with my root account that seems unlikely11:28
llutzdarklight_: is it mounted noexec?11:28
darklight_nope11:29
darklight_rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks211:29
darklight_I'm afk for a few minutes be back later11:29
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BluesKajHiyas all11:57
darklight_llutz, I'm back that took a while longer than I expected12:47
darklight_I figured out the executable not working, still disks fails to format usb keys12:50
darklight_on an unrelated note firefox cpu usage is obscene, to load a page like a g+ profile it uses 100% of all cores13:09
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alakulihalhello all14:13
alakulihalI use trusty tahr but shortcuts not work14:13
alakulihalex: screenshot14:14
perlsaiyanDoes 14.04 have support for high dpi displays?  I have a 4k monitor and the tiny menus are killing me14:22
perlsaiyanI found the display slider for title bars and icons, but that doesn't change the menus themselves, or fonts on pages, etc14:22
cassiohey. I have a friend who needs to install on a pentium M system, meaning the PAE flag needs to be forced which is a new feature in 14.0414:22
cassioif I install 14.04 today14:22
cassiowill he be able to upgrade to 14.04 final later in april?14:23
k1lall dev installs get final installs with regular updates14:23
k1ls/get/become/14:23
darklight_cassio, yep. just keep doing the updates, or apt-get dist-upgrade14:34
darklight_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/1059872 this should really be fixed or just remove/modify the functionality in gnome-disks14:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1059872 in udisks (Ubuntu) "Error formatting disk using disk utility" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:41
darklight_it works ok if the partition is removed and recreated but not when simply formatting14:41
rommeldarklight_, i missed cassios question but i think it was in reference to upgrading of 14.04... if installing daily build and performing updates this install will become same as lts15:05
darklight_yes15:06
rommelawesome... thanks15:06
jackheya16:07
jackhow do i get a saucy to trusty? do-release-upgrade says nothing new...16:08
k1ljack: you need the -d parameter16:09
k1lsince trusty is in the developer mode, still16:09
jackoh cool, thx16:09
jackwtf...same output16:11
jackdo-release-upgrade -d16:11
jackNeue Veröffentlichungen von Ubuntu werden gesucht16:11
jackKeine neue Freigabe gefunden16:11
jack:(16:11
k1ldid you use sudo?16:14
jackk1l: what now?16:26
k1l<k1l> did you use sudo?16:26
jackyeah16:26
jackwell, it was my root-terminal16:27
k1lmaybe try to switch to the main servers?16:27
jackso no but yes ;p16:27
jackhuh?16:28
jackedit sources.list?16:28
penguin42it's best not to, since that doesn't pick up some fixes that do-release-upgrade does16:28
jackok16:29
jacksounds ubuntu-ish :) fine16:29
jackso how do i get to trusty now?16:30
jpdsCheck: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades16:30
jack...had to reboot16:41
jackhow do i get to trusty now?16:42
k1lcheck the main servers, what does the release-prompt say? what does lsb_release -a say?16:43
jack$ lsb_release -a16:44
jackNo LSB modules are available.16:44
jackDistributor ID:Ubuntu16:44
jackDescription:Ubuntu 13.1016:44
jackRelease:13.1016:44
jackCodename:saucy16:44
BluesKajjack, sudo do-release-upgrade -d16:44
jackdoesn't do anything :/16:45
jackone sec16:45
BluesKajjack, make sure you update and upgrade 13.10 first16:45
plasmajack: is that you?16:46
Dry_LipsWill Libreoffice in Ubuntus repos be updated to 4.2.2?16:46
jackis updated...16:46
jackplasma, klar16:46
plasma:D16:46
jackBluesKaj, apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing16:47
Dry_Lipsjack, the current Libreoffice is 4.2.1.1...16:47
k1lplease put the whole outputs into a pastebin16:47
Dry_Lipsbut will it be upgraded to 4.2.2?16:47
jackplasma: gibt nur einen jack auf freenode ;p16:48
k1lupdate, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade -d,...16:48
BluesKajjack, you misread , it's udo do-release-upgrade -d16:49
BluesKajsudo16:49
jackone sec16:50
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IdleOne!schedule17:32
ubottuA schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule17:32
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rigo88hi. can i install on Linux cubieboard-server 3.4.43 #1 PREEMPT Wed May 29 13:37:24 CST 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux the .deb kernel files from kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?18:07
rigo88http://paste.ubuntu.com/7142316/18:07
k1lfor arm specific questions better ask in #ubuntu-arm18:08
k1l(sorry to re-redirect you :/ )18:08
rigo88:))18:09
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kdederhi, anyone use a gtx 750 in their rig?18:41
cassioI have a question. is it possible we could get the installer to spit out a nicer error message when the pae flag is lacking on a pentium M processor? I just spent several long days tracking this down, and when I eventually found the support document it was fine, but I'd like others not to have to go through my pain. The BIOS knows what the processor is, so why shouldn't ubuntu? (Pentium M doesn't flag as having PAE support, even18:50
cassio though it does.) It would be great if the installer could say "pentium M detected. force PAE? (yes/no) or even consult this url18:50
progersHello18:53
progersI have some problems with cannon i-sensys MF-4018 printer, it just say18:53
progers"src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 514, err = 0¥nError Response:ReqNo=2, SeqNo=3,opvpErrorNo=-2" without printing anything18:53
progersI have installed the drivers from official cannon site18:54
progersi have Kubuntu 14.04 amd6418:54
BluesKajprogers, there are 2 drivers available in the kubuntu repos for canon printers depending on your model18:59
progersBluesKaj: I have downloaded and installed the cndrvcups-common_2.70-1_amd64.deb and cndrvcups-ufr2-uk_2.70-1_amd64.deb19:00
progersFrom the official site19:00
BluesKajprogers, this is 14.04, doubt the drivers support in this OS19:03
progersBluesKaj: I have tryied it on Ubuntu 12.04 too, but not worked for me19:04
BluesKajchoose the canon drivers available in muon, progers19:04
progersBluesKaj: You mean that i have to type the driver name in the search in muon?19:05
BluesKajprogers, type canon-printer in muon search19:06
progersBluesKaj: found Mtink19:07
cassioprogers, trust the repositories more than the official site for a beta release please19:07
cassioat least that would be my uninformed instinct19:07
cassioI'll be able to test to see if a deskjet 1100 works soon19:08
progerscassio: But if i know how to install this driver from the repo i will not use the offical site19:08
BluesKajprogers, not cannon, it's canon19:08
cassiowell then ask that question19:09
cassioyou need to use apt-get undoubtedly19:09
BluesKajofficial site isn't  official for kubuntu, progers19:09
progerscassio: i did not found anything about canon repo so i tried to install from offical19:09
BluesKajespecially a dev OS19:09
progersBluesKaj: Yes canon-printer not cannon-printer :)19:09
cassiocan you ask in the #kubuntu channel or #kubuntu+1 if that exists19:10
cassiowhy are you running 14.0419:10
cassiodid your printer work in 13.10?19:10
progersNo19:10
BluesKajcassio, I told him to come here since it's 14.0419:10
cassioI understand19:10
cassioI'm just getting the history19:10
cassioso it didn't work in 13.1019:10
cassiowhy did you think it would work in 14.0419:11
cassiogeneral rule is whenever upgrading an OS, you don't upgrade one that is broken.19:11
BluesKajprogers, remove the the drivers if you installed them19:11
BluesKajfrom the canon site19:11
cassioI'll let you take it from here blueskaj19:11
cassiothank you.19:11
progersDon't know who give me that link but it has not linux19:11
progersJust mac and win19:12
cassioI'm confused. what did you download, and from where, and how did you run it?19:12
BluesKajthen you can't use the drivers anyway19:12
progerscassio: The mf-401019:14
cassiook that's a model number19:14
cassiowhat does it say under mac?19:14
progerscassio: By searching all the google, i found that mf-4018 can use mf-4010 driver19:15
progerscassio: I don't have mac19:15
cassiodoes it provide drivers or say they are built into the operating system? (CUPS)19:15
progersBluesKaj: I removed that driver what next19:15
cassioprogers, but linux uses the same printing system19:15
cassiois your printer laser or inkjet19:15
progerscassio: So install the mac driver?19:16
progerscassio: laser19:16
cassiono don't install the mac driver19:16
cassioblueskaj, can he use a generic postscript driver?19:16
progersI don't want use windows just because my printer is not working :(19:17
BluesKajprinter-driver-cjet looks like the one19:17
cassioprojers, that's irrelevant19:17
cassioso he runs apt-get and grabs that?19:17
BluesKajcassio, my printer skills are rather limited so I just send anything that needs printing to my wife's windows pc and print from there since lexmark has no linux driver available anyway19:19
cassioyeah, but if you know what the package name is, and it's in the repo, and the repos are in the allowed list19:20
cassiothen he should be able to grab it19:20
cassiohe can use the ubuntu software center or synaptic if he's not comfortable with apt-get19:20
cassiois my understanding correct?19:20
progersI have synaptic19:21
BluesKajcassio, yes in kubuntu the packager manager is called muon, but the simple answer is yes19:21
BluesKajprogers, why synaptic , muon is now stable and effective19:22
cassiodon't let me confuse you19:23
cassiouse muon19:23
progersBluesKaj: Because moun is software center?19:23
kdederuse wine?19:23
cassiono, not wine19:23
kdederthat printer has poor linux support, if any19:24
progersIf i type g++ in muon it give me nothing19:24
BluesKajprogers, yes19:24
progersIf i type g++ in synaptic it gives me g++19:24
cassiois his repo listing not correct?19:24
lordievaderprogers: Synaptic is a package manager, Muon (well part of it anyway) is a software center.19:25
lordievaderThose are different things.19:25
progerslordievader: so why BluesKaj say to me to use the muon instead of synaptic?19:26
BluesKajmuon is a package manager too19:26
progersBluesKaj: I can't find g++ in muon19:26
lordievaderYes, Muon also has a package manager side.19:26
BluesKajprogers, I do19:26
lordievaderprogers: Search in the menus for Muon package Manager.19:26
kdederprogers, are you Russian?19:27
progersOh you all mean that i should download muon package manager,  i thought that i must try that in muon discover19:27
progerskdeder: How did u know that?19:27
kdeder;)19:27
BluesKajprogers, muon is default on 14.04 Kubuntu19:28
progersBluesKaj: But i downloaded it19:28
progersBluesKaj: Its not installed by default19:28
kdederI found a link - I don't if it will help - maybe you found it before?19:28
BluesKajthen you don't have all the proper repositories enabled19:28
BluesKajyes it is installed by default progers , check your repos19:29
BluesKajwhich desktop are you running progers ?19:30
progersBluesKaj: what do u mean?19:30
BluesKajKDE or Unity/Gnome19:31
progersBluesKaj: KDE19:31
BluesKajhow did you install kubuntu then ?19:33
progersBluesKaj: downloaded the iso then installed on usb then installed kubuntu19:35
lordievaderprogers: Hmm, that should get you the package manager. Let me see if that is a separate package.19:36
penguin42progers: What does   cat /etc/issue  say on your machine?19:36
BluesKajok have you updated and upgraded since installing?19:36
progersUbuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch) \n \l19:36
penguin42good19:37
penguin42progers: abnd dpkg -l | grep kubuntu-desktop19:37
progersOh yes about 600 mb downloaded some bad things, then all the system crashed and then i could not startx it say that i dont have dbus, but i installed it from qt5 lib19:37
lordievaderprogers: You might need muon-installer19:37
progersii  kubuntu-desktop                          1.305                                  amd64        Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system19:38
penguin42good19:38
penguin42hey - qt5?!19:38
progersYes some dbus or i don't know what was that wanted qt519:39
progersSo i can startx19:39
penguin42progers: That's REALLY odd19:39
penguin42progers: You sure you've not got something like project-neon installed (next KDE test)19:40
progerspenguin42: don't know what are u talking about :)19:40
BluesKajwell ,i trhink muon isn't the only problem he gonna have19:40
penguin42progers: I don't know what you've got there, but if it's depending on qt5 it's not a standard Trusty Kubuntu19:41
progersOk i have bad day, first i dont have wgetpaste and my printer not working and now i have some project-neon -_-19:41
progersqdbus-libqt5 i think19:41
penguin42I have no qt5 packages installed19:42
lordievaderNo Kubu Trusty shouldn't have Qt5. It might have 4.13 beta, but that also doesn't depend on Qt5.19:43
progersI really don't want to use windows just because i have some problems with printer and some qt libraries19:44
BluesKajprogers, where did you get the idea to install a ppa for qt519:45
BluesKajqt4 is default still19:45
progersI did not install any repositories19:45
BluesKajweird19:46
progerssudo apt-get install qdbus-qt519:46
progersThen startx worked well19:46
penguin42progers: It's not the fact that you installed qt5 that worries me, it's the fact that something needed you to19:46
penguin42hmm you said startx, not tried startx for ages, I just use kdm19:46
progersI hate lightdm so i installed kdm then i have some errors with dbus19:47
progersTried rc-update add dbus default19:47
progersnot worked for me19:47
progersGoogle did not give me anything new19:47
progersThen i typed qdbus and i saw a qt5 directory19:48
progersThen apt-cache search qdbus19:48
progersthen sudo apt-get install qdbus-qt519:48
* BluesKaj backs off , this is just too strange19:48
progersI did not found anything strange here :)19:49
progersI just want to make my printer works:)19:49
progersSo where i can find some help to fix the printer?19:53
penguin42progers: Maybe try http://www.openprinting.org/printers19:53
penguin42progers: I don't know anyone with a cannon printer19:53
progerspenguin42: no i can't see my mf-4018 here19:54
penguin42progers: Is there an entry for a number just a bit smaller than it - ie. is this just this years model19:55
BluesKaji used to have one yrs ago and it was troublesome even on windows 9819:55
progersBluesKaj: windows 7 works with this printer fine19:56
penguin42progers: I'd check /var/log/cups to see if there is any indication of what's up with the driver you installed from cannon19:59
BluesKajprogers, look in your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure you have universe and multiverse universe debs enabled without a # in front20:01
progersBluesKaj: http://bpaste.net/show/192756/20:03
progerspenguin http://bpaste.net/show/192757/20:04
BluesKajok then your install obviously went bad , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , progers20:05
BluesKajI have to leave, it's dinnertime here and its been along day , so goodluck all20:06
progersBluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:06
progersOk20:06
t1mphello20:44
t1mpI'm running trusty, and since today (or perhaps since some days ago, I don't reboot often), after rebooting, I get lightdm, but when I login I get an empty screen20:44
t1mpcompiz or unity won't start..20:44
t1mpdoes anyone have a similar problem or know if there is a new bug (and how to work around it?)20:44
progerst1mp: I am not proffecional but can you show the /var/log/Xorg.0.log at pastebin20:48
t1mpprogers: that's a challenge. Mouse doesn't work in my console and I cannot log into my graphical environment20:49
progersoh20:49
progersyou are at console now?20:50
t1mpyes20:50
progersirssi?20:50
t1mpyes20:50
t1mpwell my irssi runs remotely in a screen :)20:50
progersOk u have wgetpaste?20:50
t1mpno, but I can install stuff20:51
bekkspastebinit will do the same job20:51
t1mpis that useful if I don't even have a mouse cursor in console to copy anything?20:51
progersbekks: just used gentoo, and don't know anything else than wgetpaste :)20:51
t1mpXorg.0.log ends with (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch20:51
bekkst1mp: Just install gpm then. :)20:52
t1mpwell.. I cannot type everything.. copy&past would be useful20:52
t1mpbekks: ahhh yes, thanks :)20:52
progerst1mp: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:53
t1mphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7143131/20:53
t1mpprogers: thanks :)20:54
t1mpI don't see errors in my log20:55
progerst1mp: startx20:55
progerst1mp: ?20:57
t1mpwow, that's interesting.20:57
progersWhat20:57
t1mpon alt+ctrl+F7 I still have my X running that I had before, but without window manager or windows20:58
t1mpstartx seems to start a new X and restores a session.. it has my browser open, but now window manager20:58
t1mpjust fullscreen chromium that I can use, but I cannot start other apps or switch between windows (if there are any others)20:58
t1mpI think compiz or unity are the problem20:58
progerst1mp: oh u use unity20:58
progersI am on kde20:59
progersDon't know much about unity20:59
t1mphow do I pick my wm/desktop env in lightdm?20:59
t1mpI just installed xfce because unity didn't start but I don't see an option on the graphical login screen to use it21:00
progerst1mp: so u have 2 enviroment21:00
progersunity and xfce21:00
t1mpyes, xfce I installed after I couldn't run unity anymore21:01
t1mpah. I killed lightdm, and with startxfce4 I can run that one.21:01
t1mpso the problem must be with compiz or unity21:01
* t1mp can't find what's the problem21:23
t1mpdownloading a new trusty image...21:23
SorenHolmHi21:33
SorenHolmI have pulseaudio started up twice. It also happens on the live image. Whom starts it?21:33
SorenHolmOh yeah - I'm talking kubuntu here. :)21:34
fibz_just installed 14.04.  The only available video resolution is 1024x768x76Hz, no other options available in arandr. lspci lists the graphics chipset as an Intel G31/G33.   anyone know how i can get my LCD's native resolution of 1440x900?22:15
fibz_having a brain fart and cant remember what to google for22:17
fibz_google is not my friend today. it is refusing to list any of the official ubuntu help resources in the search results without using the "site:" switch....22:41

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