| akiva-mobile | Hey all | 02:01 |
|---|---|---|
| akiva-mobile | I live in vancouver; mind if I join the team? | 02:01 |
| willwh | akiva-mobile: hahahaha | 02:43 |
| willwh | unreal :D | 02:43 |
| akiva-mobile | hmm? | 02:43 |
| willwh | I'm in Victoria | 02:43 |
| akiva-mobile | yah indeed | 02:43 |
| akiva-mobile | richmond | 02:43 |
| willwh | just funny we were talking in #ubuntu | 02:43 |
| akiva-mobile | heh; I just joined the vanloco today | 02:44 |
| akiva-mobile | seems sporatic | 02:44 |
| willwh | are you just getting in to ubuntu | 02:44 |
| willwh | or moved recently? | 02:44 |
| willwh | I've idled in this channel for YEARS | 02:44 |
| akiva-mobile | no, ive been here 2006 | 02:44 |
| akiva-mobile | just never knew about locos | 02:44 |
| willwh | ah cool, yeah I came to Canada in 2007 | 02:44 |
| willwh | from Scotland originally :) | 02:44 |
| akiva-mobile | wow; that is very cool | 02:45 |
| willwh | akiva-mobile: we should talk some more another time | 02:50 |
| willwh | I do need to run, have to put kids to bed | 02:50 |
| akiva-mobile | yah totally | 02:51 |
| akiva-mobile | catch yah willwh | 02:51 |
| willwh | akiva-mobile: here again :) | 03:44 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, heh, I just had someone yell at me in #ubuntu | 03:44 |
| willwh | it's very common | 03:45 |
| willwh | honestly... that channel is hilariously entertaining | 03:45 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, he was asking a windows question, and I did a !windows to him | 03:45 |
| akiva-mobile | and he got really flustered | 03:45 |
| akiva-mobile | turned out he knew me | 03:45 |
| willwh | lol | 03:45 |
| willwh | so what do you do? | 03:46 |
| akiva-mobile | because 4 months ago, i helped him with his ubuntu server, and spent like 2 freaking days writing a python script | 03:46 |
| willwh | I work www.netromedia.com (.net shop mostly) | 03:46 |
| willwh | at* | 03:46 |
| willwh | we're building this atm: www.streamtest.net | 03:46 |
| akiva-mobile | because he was playing around in sudo with chown, and mucked it up badly | 03:46 |
| willwh | ah, ye, ppl often do that | 03:46 |
| willwh | lol | 03:46 |
| willwh | had a few hours of contract work fixing messes like it ;) | 03:46 |
| willwh | chown -R www-data:www-data / - or something daft like that | 03:47 |
| akiva-mobile | long story short, he shouted, pm'd me, called me all sorts of names... and I am like... where is your perspective? Anyways | 03:47 |
| akiva-mobile | okay so you are doing... | 03:47 |
| akiva-mobile | streamtest | 03:47 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, what is streamtest? | 03:47 |
| willwh | like speedtest.net for video streaming | 03:48 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, and to answer your question, I do programming and economics, freelance. | 03:48 |
| willwh | like a streaming video diagnostic tool | 03:48 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, oh interesting; what technologies can you use it with? | 03:48 |
| akiva-mobile | google hangouts? Skype? | 03:48 |
| willwh | no, for rtmp/http delivered video | 03:49 |
| akiva-mobile | ah i see | 03:49 |
| willwh | we're going to support rtsp soonish too | 03:50 |
| akiva-mobile | very nicely done. | 03:50 |
| willwh | it's .net, built on windows azure | 03:50 |
| willwh | yeah pretty cool project tbh, been a lot of fun | 03:50 |
| akiva-mobile | excuse my ignorance, but I am not familiar with either rtsp or rtmp :P | 03:50 |
| willwh | lots of work left to do though | 03:50 |
| akiva-mobile | how is working with .net? | 03:50 |
| willwh | ah, rtmp = adobe's flash video protocol | 03:50 |
| akiva-mobile | its not under any of the languages I use, so :P | 03:50 |
| akiva-mobile | ah | 03:50 |
| willwh | rtsp - real time streaming protocol - IP cameras and the like | 03:50 |
| willwh | old android phones too, old blackberry | 03:51 |
| akiva-mobile | you make money from advertising then? | 03:51 |
| willwh | .net is pretty decent | 03:51 |
| willwh | no load testing | 03:51 |
| akiva-mobile | oh wait, pricing | 03:51 |
| akiva-mobile | interesting business model | 03:51 |
| willwh | I'm hoping to talk to netflix soon, want to support them | 03:51 |
| akiva-mobile | yah I bet | 03:51 |
| willwh | and a variety of others | 03:51 |
| akiva-mobile | what about steam? | 03:52 |
| akiva-mobile | valve* | 03:52 |
| akiva-mobile | they have streaming, don't they? | 03:52 |
| willwh | not sure there is a need really | 03:52 |
| willwh | we're going to have a pure client test for free | 03:52 |
| willwh | with tons of diagnostics | 03:52 |
| akiva-mobile | nice. | 03:52 |
| willwh | should be easy to add to that | 03:52 |
| akiva-mobile | do you program .net on linux or windows? | 03:53 |
| willwh | yeah - so the way it works is this: | 03:53 |
| willwh | this is done in windows, as it's run on the azure cloud | 03:53 |
| willwh | but I run other parts of our stuff in mono | 03:53 |
| akiva-mobile | what ide do you use for mono? | 03:53 |
| akiva-mobile | mono dev? | 03:53 |
| willwh | yup | 03:54 |
| akiva-mobile | shame it doesnt work with unity | 03:54 |
| willwh | nginx + fastcgi on the server | 03:54 |
| willwh | yeah - I'd love to get in to game development tbh | 03:54 |
| willwh | oh, you don't mean unity engine | 03:54 |
| willwh | hahahaha | 03:54 |
| willwh | :D | 03:54 |
| willwh | you mean ubuntu's unity | 03:55 |
| akiva-mobile | no lol, I mean that it doesnt integrate | 03:55 |
| akiva-mobile | yah | 03:55 |
| willwh | well | 03:55 |
| willwh | I think I read a couple of days ago | 03:55 |
| willwh | xamarin, the guys who started mono | 03:55 |
| akiva-mobile | for me; the ide's or any development programs, ahve to support the hud | 03:55 |
| willwh | are maybe going to be acquired by ms | 03:55 |
| willwh | I use vim for most dev, I do tons of node.js :P | 03:55 |
| willwh | for my personal stuff anyway | 03:55 |
| akiva-mobile | I want to use vim | 03:56 |
| willwh | why don't you? :) | 03:56 |
| akiva-mobile | but vim was designed for qwerty | 03:56 |
| akiva-mobile | and so its awkward with colemak | 03:56 |
| willwh | you're a dvorak? | 03:56 |
| willwh | colemak wtf is that | 03:56 |
| akiva-mobile | no, colemak | 03:56 |
| willwh | D: | 03:56 |
| akiva-mobile | sec | 03:56 |
| * willwh looks | 03:56 | |
| willwh | ah | 03:57 |
| willwh | cool | 03:57 |
| akiva-mobile | http://youtu.be/6B7RgV-aLSk | 03:57 |
| akiva-mobile | I just recently did a video on it. | 03:57 |
| willwh | ah that's you? | 03:58 |
| akiva-mobile | yep | 03:58 |
| willwh | where did you record that? | 03:58 |
| willwh | it's noisey :P | 03:58 |
| akiva-mobile | timmy's | 03:58 |
| willwh | ofc | 03:59 |
| willwh | hahahaha | 03:59 |
| willwh | so where are you from? | 03:59 |
| akiva-mobile | 24 hours | 03:59 |
| akiva-mobile | vancouver | 03:59 |
| willwh | born and raised | 03:59 |
| willwh | ? | 03:59 |
| akiva-mobile | scottland is more interesting | 03:59 |
| akiva-mobile | but vancouver | 03:59 |
| willwh | well, I live on Vancouver Island | 03:59 |
| willwh | :P | 03:59 |
| willwh | Victoria, like I said | 03:59 |
| akiva-mobile | my mother is german, my father is of british descent. I descend from Sir Francis Drake. | 03:59 |
| willwh | ah | 03:59 |
| akiva-mobile | yar! | 04:00 |
| akiva-mobile | buccaneers ftw | 04:00 |
| willwh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers | 04:00 |
| willwh | my last name is Hetherington | 04:00 |
| willwh | my family moved over the border in the 16th century | 04:00 |
| willwh | tons of us in the borders of scotland | 04:01 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, interesting. Do you want scotland independence? | 04:01 |
| willwh | well, it's a very interesting question | 04:01 |
| akiva-mobile | hear there has been talk of it lately | 04:01 |
| willwh | yes | 04:01 |
| willwh | there is a referrendum coming up | 04:01 |
| akiva-mobile | your vote? | 04:01 |
| willwh | and they just changed the rules | 04:01 |
| willwh | so I think I'll be able to vote now | 04:01 |
| akiva-mobile | how so? | 04:01 |
| akiva-mobile | ah | 04:01 |
| akiva-mobile | okay | 04:01 |
| willwh | well, prior to this change | 04:01 |
| willwh | you had to be a resident in scotland to vote | 04:01 |
| willwh | I am a permanent resident in canada | 04:02 |
| willwh | going to apply for citizenship soon | 04:02 |
| willwh | but | 04:02 |
| willwh | they are reducing the age to 16 in scotland | 04:02 |
| willwh | i.e. 16 year olds will be able to vote for this | 04:02 |
| akiva-mobile | and you want to seperate? | 04:02 |
| willwh | one of my brothers was killed in afghanistan last april | 04:02 |
| willwh | fighting for the british army | 04:02 |
| willwh | and yes | 04:02 |
| akiva-mobile | wow, horrid. To him though, thank you for serving | 04:03 |
| willwh | I think I will vote for independance | 04:03 |
| willwh | well, I don't know | 04:03 |
| akiva-mobile | britain has a bunch of issues; namely its debt and its high level of soft socialism | 04:03 |
| willwh | yes | 04:03 |
| willwh | I won't go back to the UK I don't think | 04:03 |
| akiva-mobile | If britain was more economically free, I doubt anyone would be interested | 04:04 |
| willwh | I married a Canadian, have a son and daughter (2.5 and duaghter is just 3months ) | 04:04 |
| willwh | well - honestly what worries me is GCHQ | 04:04 |
| willwh | haha | 04:04 |
| akiva-mobile | its the same reason why ukraine collapsed; they were the most socialistic and most difficult place to do business in all of europe | 04:04 |
| willwh | I have friends who *cough* have some fringe invovlement with some of that | 04:04 |
| akiva-mobile | gchq? | 04:04 |
| willwh | british intelligence basicallyt | 04:05 |
| willwh | government communications headquarters | 04:05 |
| willwh | :P | 04:05 |
| akiva-mobile | ah snowden stuff? | 04:05 |
| willwh | somewhat yes | 04:05 |
| akiva-mobile | yah | 04:05 |
| akiva-mobile | in alabama they have issues with this | 04:05 |
| akiva-mobile | state seperatists are being labled as terrorists and what not | 04:05 |
| akiva-mobile | a bunch of rubbish if you ask me. | 04:05 |
| willwh | http://cryptome.org/2014/03/nsa-hunt-sysadmins.pdf | 04:06 |
| akiva-mobile | unions are voluntary | 04:06 |
| akiva-mobile | yah I saw that | 04:06 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, ever watch the linux action show? | 04:06 |
| willwh | it's childish in it's compsition | 04:06 |
| willwh | no I don't | 04:06 |
| willwh | should I? :) | 04:06 |
| akiva-mobile | you should; | 04:06 |
| akiva-mobile | they have a show the nextday called linux unplugged | 04:06 |
| akiva-mobile | and popey shows up in mumble, as with other many prominent members | 04:07 |
| akiva-mobile | and discuss linux issues | 04:07 |
| akiva-mobile | the reason I brought it up though | 04:07 |
| akiva-mobile | is that chris, the guy who runs that has another podcast called unfiltered, which follows all the nsa jazz. decent show | 04:07 |
| willwh | they have a mumble server? | 04:07 |
| akiva-mobile | sometimes a bit too zealous, but you get all the news needed. | 04:07 |
| willwh | :) | 04:07 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, yah | 04:08 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, and you know popey right? | 04:08 |
| willwh | dont think so | 04:08 |
| akiva-mobile | ah well hes like jono bacon sort of | 04:08 |
| willwh | k | 04:08 |
| akiva-mobile | being a head developer of ubuntu | 04:08 |
| akiva-mobile | not a community manager, but you get the jiff | 04:09 |
| willwh | ye | 04:09 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, anyways, scotts are really cool in my opinion | 04:09 |
| akiva-mobile | one of the great homogenous cultures out there | 04:09 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, do you dawn the clan colours ever? | 04:10 |
| willwh | oh yeah :) | 04:10 |
| willwh | my dad wears his mother's colours though, Murray | 04:10 |
| akiva-mobile | good :) | 04:10 |
| willwh | so do I and my brother | 04:10 |
| willwh | and so did my other brother | 04:11 |
| akiva-mobile | very neat. | 04:11 |
| akiva-mobile | i learned the other week, that scottland actually used to have colonies in the americas at one time | 04:11 |
| willwh | http://www.kiltmakers.com/assets/media/large_images/007/7661.jpg | 04:11 |
| akiva-mobile | I thought that was pretty interesting | 04:12 |
| willwh | that's the dress murray tartan | 04:12 |
| willwh | it's Scotland btw | 04:12 |
| willwh | just one t :) | 04:12 |
| akiva-mobile | I beg your pardon | 04:12 |
| willwh | the scots are everywhere | 04:12 |
| akiva-mobile | english lessons taught me to double the consanants after short vowels | 04:12 |
| willwh | and responsible for a lot of the modern world | 04:12 |
| willwh | ;) | 04:12 |
| akiva-mobile | adam smith | 04:12 |
| akiva-mobile | <3 | 04:13 |
| willwh | "_ | 04:13 |
| willwh | that was my house in high school "smith house" | 04:13 |
| willwh | haha | 04:13 |
| willwh | for him | 04:13 |
| akiva-mobile | very nice | 04:13 |
| willwh | my family are all there | 04:13 |
| willwh | if you ever visit, let me know | 04:13 |
| willwh | my sister has a sweet flat right in the centre of the old town , on the royal mile | 04:14 |
| willwh | and she runs a tea shop across the road | 04:14 |
| akiva-mobile | Wow that is very kind of you | 04:14 |
| willwh | but ye usually have a room for short term rent | 04:14 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, favourite scot hollywood movie? | 04:14 |
| willwh | hmm | 04:14 |
| willwh | probably rob roy | 04:14 |
| willwh | heh | 04:14 |
| akiva-mobile | yah | 04:15 |
| akiva-mobile | rob roy | 04:15 |
| akiva-mobile | was going to say | 04:15 |
| willwh | 'cause braveheart is terrible | 04:15 |
| willwh | trainspotting is crazy :) | 04:15 |
| willwh | I have a couple of friends in that movie, just extras | 04:15 |
| willwh | if you haven't watched it | 04:16 |
| willwh | A History of Scotland | 04:16 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, yah braveheart... | 04:16 |
| willwh | is a bbc production I think | 04:16 |
| willwh | is awesome | 04:16 |
| willwh | it's an 8 part series I think | 04:16 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, its the scotish production of the patriot; just awful | 04:16 |
| willwh | yep | 04:16 |
| willwh | ah, when you say scottish, two t's | 04:16 |
| willwh | but, Scotland, and Scot(s) | 04:16 |
| akiva-mobile | William wallace was apparently much larger than mel gibson | 04:16 |
| akiva-mobile | and he apparently did a lot of pillaging | 04:17 |
| willwh | you know what's horrible | 04:17 |
| akiva-mobile | what? | 04:17 |
| willwh | at stirling castle | 04:17 |
| willwh | there is the wallace monument across the valley a biot | 04:17 |
| willwh | it's this huge stone needle/tower kind of things | 04:17 |
| willwh | thing* | 04:17 |
| akiva-mobile | what is horrible about it? | 04:17 |
| willwh | and then, there is a statue of old mel, in the car park in the castle | 04:17 |
| akiva-mobile | oh lol | 04:18 |
| akiva-mobile | ha ha | 04:18 |
| willwh | so many of the visitors assume that's the wallace monument | 04:18 |
| willwh | it's a crying shame | 04:18 |
| akiva-mobile | ha ha | 04:18 |
| willwh | https://plus.google.com/u/0/110606524902527184212/posts | 04:18 |
| willwh | that's the wallace monument | 04:18 |
| akiva-mobile | very nice | 04:19 |
| akiva-mobile | i really don't think its possible to grab a sword in rob roy.... | 04:19 |
| akiva-mobile | i mean maybe it is | 04:20 |
| akiva-mobile | he did have an angle to it. | 04:20 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, what kind of game development do you want to get into? | 04:21 |
| willwh | meh, I am so busy dude | 04:21 |
| willwh | I would love to dive in to building a cross platform, open pvp, loot MMO | 04:22 |
| willwh | i.e. if I had unlimited funds... that is what I would do | 04:22 |
| willwh | :) | 04:22 |
| willwh | full loot* | 04:22 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, I sporatically have plans for such a thing | 04:22 |
| akiva-mobile | and some development from time to time. One thing I want to do, is grab the tile data from open maps | 04:23 |
| willwh | mine would be fantasy though | 04:23 |
| akiva-mobile | which will cost a few hundred dollars | 04:23 |
| akiva-mobile | database it | 04:23 |
| akiva-mobile | and use that to generate a real world map | 04:23 |
| akiva-mobile | the possibilities with that are tremendous. | 04:24 |
| willwh | yes indeed | 04:24 |
| willwh | the problem of course is population | 04:24 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, fantasy would be hard | 04:24 |
| akiva-mobile | they are a dime a dozen. | 04:24 |
| willwh | not full loot, open pvp | 04:24 |
| willwh | right now, there is darkfall unholy wars | 04:24 |
| willwh | and it's directx 11 | 04:24 |
| akiva-mobile | i'd only be interested in developing on the ubuntu platform tbh :P | 04:25 |
| willwh | that's about the only one I've played that is even half decent in the last few years | 04:25 |
| willwh | fair play | 04:25 |
| willwh | I'd still be up for that | 04:25 |
| akiva-mobile | I used to play a lot of world of tanks, until I was able to escape it and finally get back to being productive. | 04:25 |
| akiva-mobile | geez those games are dangerous like that :P | 04:26 |
| willwh | oh yes indeed they are | 04:26 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, hey do you have any experience with cmake? | 04:26 |
| akiva-mobile | I am trying to build unity | 04:26 |
| willwh | I don't | 04:26 |
| akiva-mobile | and am having an error | 04:26 |
| akiva-mobile | bah | 04:26 |
| akiva-mobile | shucks | 04:26 |
| willwh | you're trying to build untiy | 04:28 |
| willwh | :) | 04:28 |
| willwh | what are you changing? | 04:29 |
| willwh | haha | 04:29 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, I want to build a scope for the terminal | 04:29 |
| akiva-mobile | embedding terminals are tough | 04:29 |
| akiva-mobile | but I think I know a way to do it | 04:29 |
| akiva-mobile | but that would be great if you could press the dash and have a terminal scope pop up | 04:30 |
| willwh | ctrl + alt + t works for me :P | 04:30 |
| akiva-mobile | willwh, but to have a perpetually active one | 04:31 |
| akiva-mobile | i mean, ctrl alt f1 works as well, but blah | 04:32 |
| BobJonkman2 | akiva-mobile, willwh: You may be looking for something like Guake -- sits in the top panel (I'm using Mate, a Gnome2 fork), and it pops in/out with F12. Doesn't open a new terminal or close a session, just displays it http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/guake or https://github.com/Guake/guake/ | 14:57 |
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