| Fudge | attente: are you ears on? | 00:35 |
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| Fudge | bug #1282782, was wondering if that would also in your opinion cause Orca to read the title of the active window everytime the 'alt' key is touched? | 00:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1282782 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Newest compiz/unity has decided that it owns my Alt key" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282782 | 00:36 |
| attente | Fudge: not really sure tbh | 00:43 |
| Fudge | attente: thanks anyway mate | 00:43 |
| Fudge | I'll keep looking | 00:43 |
| attente | holding the alt key does show the menu bar | 00:43 |
| attente | but i'm not really familiar with how orca works | 00:44 |
| attente | it definitely sounds plausible though | 00:44 |
| Fudge | :) basically if you had Orca running, push ALT a bunch of times and Orca will on each keypress read the title of the window. e.g On thunderbird just now, alt=orca saying inbox unified folders mozilla thunderbird frame then if I push it again I hear it again. | 00:46 |
| attente | Fudge: do you know how long that bug has been happening? | 00:46 |
| Fudge | quite a while attente , I've been on Trusty from the start, I would have to say confidently at least a few months. | 00:47 |
| attente | Fudge: so that bug that you linked to here started around late Jan, early Feb | 00:48 |
| attente | i mean the regression was introduced around that time | 00:48 |
| Fudge | is it specific to jsut gnome terminal? | 00:50 |
| attente | Fudge: no, but holding the alt key in general causes the menu bar to become visible | 00:51 |
| attente | Fudge: sorry, it was actually introduced on Feb 14 | 00:51 |
| Fudge | ah the penny drops, so it is hidden before then is it? | 00:51 |
| attente | Fudge: before alt had no effect on showing the menu bar due to a bug | 00:51 |
| Fudge | how about tapping the alt, does it start to appear? | 00:51 |
| attente | Fudge: tapping alt would cause the hud to appear | 00:52 |
| Fudge | I have hud disabled | 00:52 |
| attente | but i don't know why it would cause the screenreader to read the window title | 00:52 |
| attente | hmm. | 00:52 |
| Fudge | it could be since the bar is appearing that Orca is reading the whole thing and not just the menu focus? | 00:53 |
| attente | Fudge: if you remember having the bug older than Feb 14-ish, i'd say it's caused by something else.. sorry :( | 00:53 |
| Fudge | I'll ask Themuso since you've given me better understanding of it now | 00:53 |
| attente | Fudge: good idea | 00:53 |
| Fudge | you've still helped me so thank you mate | 00:53 |
| attente | Fudge: Trevinho would also be helpful i think | 00:53 |
| attente | Fudge: good luck, sorry i could help more :) | 00:54 |
| attente | *couldn't | 00:54 |
| Fudge | thank you attente. Trevinho if you followed our conversation maybe you might have some ideas? | 00:54 |
| darkxst | attente, The keygrabber moved into Unity around that time | 01:13 |
| darkxst | prior to that key grabs were handled by gnome-settings-daemon | 01:13 |
| attente | darkxst: yep, i just wasn't sure if that was the cause since Fudge said he had the problem for a few months now | 03:39 |
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| robert_ancell | seriously, how long does unity take to compile? | 23:46 |
| ochosi | hey robert_ancell | 23:51 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, hey | 23:51 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: i quickly wanted to ask you about that gtk-greeter bug we're seeing where the greeter doesnt exit and appears in the session (if you have time) | 23:51 |
| ochosi | (if you dont have time, no worries) | 23:52 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, sure | 23:52 |
| robert_ancell | I have some time | 23:52 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: so as i said last time, i can hardly reproduce the bug and so far i've only seen it once (didn't think it would be a greeter bug back then and hence didn't save the logs) | 23:52 |
| ochosi | any idea how to even get to reproduce this? basically the gtk-greeter still exits the same way it always did | 23:53 |
| ochosi | so i have no idea what could go wrong there | 23:53 |
| ochosi | the only thing that's new is support for gtk3 indicators (started via upstart and then killed, same as in unity-greeter) | 23:54 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Yeah it does take a while to compile. | 23:54 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, I'm kind of at a loss too without being able to reproduce and check what's running post login | 23:55 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: i'm wondering whether there is any kind of debug output i could add to help with this, but i guess then i'd already have to know where the problem lies.. | 23:56 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: so i suppose there weren't any changes in lightdm that could cause this behavior? | 23:57 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, it's possible the signal handling got messed up and lightdm just thinks the greeter quit when it didn't? | 23:57 |
| robert_ancell | But I'm pretty sure it wouldn't do anything until the process actually quit | 23:57 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: well what we added and what wasn't there previously (although that rather should fix stuff than break it) is gtk_main_quit(); in the sigterm_cb before exit (0); | 23:59 |
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