| manchicken | Okay, under 14.04 I now have kubuntu-debug-installer building again. | 00:53 |
|---|---|---|
| manchicken | The qt5 changes messed up my local build environment slightly, but I think I'm good now. | 00:54 |
| valorie | hi ahoneybun | 01:04 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/24/plasma-desktopwY2050.png | 01:15 |
| valorie | button isn't sliding down below the text in the header | 01:15 |
| valorie | and on pages like this, setting off Kubuntu with quotes is strange: | 01:17 |
| valorie | Local Teams | 01:17 |
| valorie | If you want to meet other ”’Kubuntu”’ users in your area, look for a Local Ubuntu Community team (LoCo team for short) to join. | 01:17 |
| valorie | http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/contribute-to-kubuntu/ | 01:17 |
| valorie | I have a feeling that is from the wiki page markup or something | 01:17 |
| valorie | do we still ship wubi? | 07:13 |
| valorie | someone was just in #kubuntu fighting with it | 07:13 |
| valorie | !manifest | 07:14 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about manifest | 07:14 |
| jussi | don't think so. at least it shouldnt be in 14.04 | 07:14 |
| valorie | bummer, ubottu | 07:14 |
| valorie | cool | 07:14 |
| lordievader | valorie: He said he specifically chose Precise because it still had wubi. | 07:15 |
| valorie | ah | 07:15 |
| valorie | weird | 07:16 |
| lordievader | 24-07:59 < markwelds> the reason i am using 12.04 is because wubi only has 12.04 | 07:16 |
| valorie | ok, but you said saucy | 07:16 |
| valorie | whatever, as long as it's gone | 07:16 |
| lordievader | Yes, Ubuntu Saucy. | 07:17 |
| lordievader | ;) | 07:17 |
| valorie | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/trusty-desktop-amd64.manifest has no wubi | 07:17 |
| valorie | :-) | 07:17 |
| lordievader | \o/ | 07:18 |
| valorie | got it | 07:18 |
| lordievader | Good riddance. | 07:18 |
| valorie | indeed | 07:18 |
| valorie | I only tried it once, very long ago, and it was already a steaming pile then | 07:19 |
| lordievader | I actually used it once, a cyclic boot chain stopped that quickly enough. | 07:20 |
| valorie | really, that fellow needs guis, doncha think? | 07:21 |
| valorie | not much of a thinker | 07:21 |
| lordievader | Yeah, I was just poking fun. | 07:21 |
| valorie | but we all start somewhere | 07:21 |
| lordievader | Very true. | 07:22 |
| lordievader | Let move this to #kubuntu-offtopic, btw. | 07:22 |
| valorie | oops | 07:22 |
| valorie | thought I was there | 07:22 |
| valorie | geez, sorry | 07:22 |
| apachelogger | agateau: bug 296228 python hates its parents :'< | 08:39 |
| ubottu | bug 296228 in Duo "duo gets stuck : "+4" cannot be played twice" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296228 | 08:39 |
| agateau | apachelogger: how does this concern me? | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | agateau: it doesn't just wanted to point that out :P | 08:41 |
| agateau | apachelogger: ah ok :) | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | also that is the wrong bug | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | ah bug 1296228 is the one agateau ^^ | 08:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1296228 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "manual install second partition BOOM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296228 | 08:42 |
| agateau | that sounds more like my stuff | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | d_ed: what would cause the google talk account creation stuff in ktp to be greyed out? | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | s/would/could | 08:49 |
| agateau | apachelogger: building qtwebkit atm, I don't dare opening firefox to read the bug report for now :) | 08:49 |
| apachelogger | agateau: probably a smart thing, I'd also close the IRC client tho :P | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | webkit is the best thing to build in a constraint build envrionment (say PPA builders ...) | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | e.g. IIRC neon5's qtwebkit is actually built without debug symbols because they cause OOM abortion like 99% of the time | 08:51 |
| agateau | yes, I might do this at some point | 08:51 |
| agateau | thought I noticed linking with gold helps | 08:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: "After clicking Apply to activate the newly selected driver, the process does not finish. I waited about five minutes then killed it. After opening Driver Management again, the new driver was selected." | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: about driver manager, applying a driver change | 08:52 |
| d_ed | apachelogger: lack of telepathy-gabble | 08:52 |
| * apachelogger checks deps | 08:52 | |
| apachelogger | ohohoh, wait, haven't I seen that issue too | 08:53 |
| * apachelogger checks logs | 08:53 | |
| apachelogger | ah yes | 08:53 |
| apachelogger | d_ed: what if gabble definitely was installed ^^ | 08:53 |
| apachelogger | FWIW we might be talking about the actual configuration window rather than the button ... the test comment is not exactly clear on that | 08:55 |
| d_ed | killall mission-control-5 then open it again. | 08:55 |
| d_ed | after that I have no idea | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | mh, ok | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | d_ed: thx :) | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | somehow the discover test case is weirdly sorted | 08:56 |
| * apachelogger wonders why | 08:56 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: about the nepomuk disabled test case on google docs... shouldn't nepomuk be removed (will be removed)? | 08:59 |
| apachelogger | interestingly that test case also has weird order of question/comments | 08:59 |
| apachelogger | Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a 1GB USB stick. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a larger USB drive, or a virtual machine. | 09:02 |
| apachelogger | exciting | 09:02 |
| apachelogger | we now have openjdk on the ISO it seems | 09:02 |
| apachelogger | because of ... wait for it... libreoffice | 09:04 |
| jussi | oh I eagerly await the day when we can have Calligra | 09:04 |
| apachelogger | ah, nevermind, | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | we not only have jdk | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | we also have libgnome *2* | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | because of openjdk | 09:05 |
| jussi | hah! | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | Timeout error | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | fun fact: the lo changelog on launchpad indicates no changes regarding java | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: true, however, I've commented out the code that figures out where qdbus resides, so that will lead to startup issues | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do I find out why a package is on the ISO? | 09:22 |
| tsimpson | packages are listed in the .manifest | 09:25 |
| shadeslayer | sigh | 09:25 |
| shadeslayer | mornings are definitely not my thing | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I look at the germs | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | mondays! mondays! | 09:26 |
| shadeslayer | tsimpson: sure, but why? | 09:26 |
| shadeslayer | tsimpson: I mean, that lists packages on the ISO, but sometimes I need to know why :) | 09:26 |
| tsimpson | oh why, sorry :p | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: because of the germs | 09:26 |
| shadeslayer | okie dokie | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.trusty/desktop http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.trusty/desktop-common | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | we need to seed qtchooser explicitly | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | or make kde-workspace depend on it | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah well, qdbus already pulls it in | 09:27 |
| * apachelogger looks at his whiteboard and sighs in despair | 09:27 | |
| shadeslayer | what's wrong? | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: all utils do/should as the /usr/bin/foo thing is nothing but a link/caller for qtchooser | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | and qtchooser then calls the appropriate architecture binary | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: was looking at 1295835 | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | bug 1295835 | 09:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1295835 in qtchooser (Ubuntu) "qtchooser should have a fallback mechanism" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295835 | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | trying to figure out why installing qt5-default fixes the issue | 09:29 |
| apachelogger | iff some qt5 bit is installed the qtchooser config for qt5 likely will get installed and chosen over the qt4 one | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | yes, but that doesn't matter if I explicitly set QT_SELECT=4 correct? | 09:30 |
| shadeslayer | or does that get overriden too :O | 09:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: nope, select should override anything | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | UNLESS qdbus-qt4 is not installed | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | so perhaps that needs to be explicitly seeded | 09:31 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| shadeslayer | already seeded | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | then that should not happen | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | it's puzzling yes | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | have the reporter strace it? | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | uninstall qdbus-qt5, set qt_select, strace qdbus | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | eh | 09:39 |
| shadeslayer | this is interesting | 09:39 |
| === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl | ||
| shadeslayer | open driver manager kcm -> Select nvidia-331 -> hit apply -> install goes to 50% and then kcm reloads | 09:40 |
| shadeslayer | and keeps reloading | 09:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah, driver manager is le broken | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | needs fixing ASAP | 09:50 |
| apachelogger | fancy | 09:51 |
| * apachelogger adds to todo -.- | 09:51 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: nepomuk can't be removed because it needs to migrate, you might also want to turn it back on to e.g. get PMC to work | 09:54 |
| * apachelogger squints | 09:54 | |
| apachelogger | I think that just gave me a stroke | 09:55 |
| Riddell | kubotu: nowversion akonadi 1.11.90 | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: patch PMC to offer starting the KCM? | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | it's multiple degrees of ugly to have both nepomuk and baloo in systemsettings | 09:55 |
| yofel | well, we removed the kcm from kde-runtime, do you want it back? | 09:56 |
| yofel | has the uglyness of having desktop search twice in ss | 09:56 |
| yofel | I tried to remove the nepmouk dep wherever else I could. nepomuk-widgets shouldn't be used by anything anymore, but nepomuk-core isn't so easy | 09:58 |
| apachelogger | it's what I said should not happen, according to Riddell's test case that is however what happens when upgrading | 09:58 |
| yofel | removing n-c from kactivites is rather scary | 09:58 |
| yofel | apachelogger: having two kcm's? Impossible if we don't ship the other one... | 09:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yofel has some some nepomuk removal work since I wrote that test case | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | ah | 10:01 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please adjust test case then :P | 10:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: know of anything else that's broken? | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: everything | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: where? | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | driver-manager? | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | no, known any other breakages apart from that | 10:37 |
| * mzanetti would know a bunch :D | 10:38 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: everywhere, take a look at the bug tracker :P | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 10:39 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: stuff that you broke specifically or other things? :P | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | eh | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: python3.4!!!@$!$!! | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | see mailing list | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | I thought you and yofel where on to that? | 10:42 |
| yofel | not... particulary. When I see apport I usually run away | 10:43 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | bug 1253071 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1253071 in minidlna (Ubuntu) "FTBFS against libav9" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1253071 | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | xnox: ^ the removal of gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg breaks kubuntu stuff | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | a lot | 10:46 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:55 |
| * shadeslayer starts looking at apport | 11:02 | |
| jussi | we still use apport? | 11:02 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yeah, for non KDE apps | 11:02 |
| jussi | oh | 11:03 |
| === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter | ||
| shadeslayer | wtf it's 1? | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | where did all the time go :O | 12:02 |
| Riddell | ** beta freeze happening today, get your uploads in quick! | 12:51 |
| Riddell | manchicken: is qapt and muon in the archive at good versions? | 12:52 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I believe qapt is, but Harald put those in. | 12:52 |
| manchicken | I'm still packaging-stupid. | 12:52 |
| Riddell | manchicken: launchpad knows all :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt | 12:53 |
| Riddell | manchicken: upload happened on 18th, that all good? | 12:53 |
| sgclark | Riddell: anything I can do? or quiet due to freeze? | 12:53 |
| manchicken | Let me look at the code | 12:53 |
| Riddell | sgclark: akonadi pacakaging will make tsdgeos happy | 12:53 |
| manchicken | I know (intimately) what the last change was. | 12:53 |
| sgclark | Riddell: on it | 12:54 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion akonadi 1.11.90 | 12:54 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1296707 | 12:54 |
| sgclark | Riddell: did you get calligra? | 12:54 |
| Riddell | sgclark: now you've got a bug for it too :) ↑ | 12:54 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Yeah, this is golden. | 12:54 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yep thanks, e-mailed about some tidying I had to do | 12:55 |
| * shadeslayer waves fist | 13:25 | |
| shadeslayer | can't get apport to crash in pd | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | *pdb | 13:26 |
| sgclark | Riddell: akonadi ready | 13:31 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ubuntu one? any changes needed? | 13:33 |
| Riddell | not in ubuntu one, in bzr? | 13:34 |
| sgclark | bzr and no changes | 13:35 |
| Riddell | sgclark: uploaded, thanks! | 13:35 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: any idea where akonadi releases get announced? they just seem to quietly appear | 13:35 |
| Riddell | sgclark: two more needing done today, new homerun release and fiddling with phonon .pri files | 13:39 |
| sgclark | Riddell: on it. what do you mean fiddling? | 13:40 |
| Riddell | sgclark: the .pri files in phonon are installed incorrectly in .install files "debian/tmp-phonon-qt5/usr/lib/*/qt5/mkspecs/modules/qt_phonon4qt5.pri usr/lib/*/qt5/mkspecs/modules/" | 13:42 |
| Riddell | which literally puts it into usr/lib/*/qt5/mkspecs/modules/ | 13:42 |
| Riddell | needs custom install commands added to debian/rules | 13:42 |
| Riddell | sgclark: which are you starting on? | 13:42 |
| sgclark | ok | 13:42 |
| sgclark | homerun | 13:42 |
| Riddell | should be easy I think | 13:43 |
| sgclark | Riddell: should this be fixed while I am packaging? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/homerun/+bug/1275243 | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1275243 in homerun (Ubuntu) "plasma-widget-homerun-kicker package should depend on plasma-widget-homerun" [Undecided,New] | 13:45 |
| Riddell | sgclark: hmm, something should be fixed | 13:46 |
| Riddell | sgclark: maybe it needs a common package for the shared files | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 13:46 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ask Sho_ in #kde-devel to find the best way | 13:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger, shadeslayer: given freeze is imminent someone should start on gstreamer 1.0 support now, any volunteers or shall I do it? | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | go for it, I'm doing other stuff right now | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | I am not going to do it, or I will have to shoot myself | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | just a overall crappy situation overall | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: might be worth investigating if there are other packages that use QtWebkit and gst | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | because if they use QtWebkit + gst 0.10 things are going to crash | 13:51 |
| sgclark | Riddell: They said they do not know ubuntu packaging but your solution for common package would be possible. Your call | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: go for the common packaging approach | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | *common package | 13:57 |
| sgclark | ok how do I determine what files are shared? | 13:58 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: no clue, ask dan | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: check what files are used by both apps ? | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | homerunviewer is probably one | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | ohohoho | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2014-March/033929.html | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | is it batman | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | oh, it's not :/ | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that's not the same thign is it? | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | we have code that did not change and is now going down in flames | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | that guy posted right after I did | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :/ | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | oh, true, same backtrace | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | might still have a different cause, as apparently that backtrace is iconic of stuff that is being destructed after being destructed or something ^^ | 14:09 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| Quintasan | \o | 14:23 |
| Peace- | hey guys someone has 13.10 ? | 14:41 |
| Peace- | because i can't get tthe video preview on that too | 14:41 |
| Peace- | i mean on the info panel of dolphin | 14:41 |
| Peace- | i click play but on mp4 it doesn't work | 14:42 |
| Peace- | mah | 14:42 |
| jussi | link me to a demo file and Ill test | 14:42 |
| Peace- | jussi: youtube-dl -t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQuDUoTHEo #it should be very fast to download , and it should be MP4 | 14:45 |
| Peace- | i am thinkin that it's a bug of kde 4.12 | 14:47 |
| Peace- | i have installed kubuntu-restricted-extra and ubuntu-restricted-extra phonon-backend-vlc too | 14:49 |
| jussi | where the heck does the file disappear to ? | 14:54 |
| Peace- | jussi: ?? | 14:54 |
| jussi | oh, weirdly named | 14:54 |
| jussi | anyway, works here | 14:54 |
| Peace- | ah | 14:54 |
| jussi | Platform Version 4.12.3 | 14:55 |
| Peace- | jussi: damn why in my machine it doesn't work | 14:55 |
| Peace- | sigh | 14:56 |
| Peace- | i have both virtuabl box with 13.10 and new 14.04 | 14:56 |
| Peace- | jussi: did you install something of special ?= | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: did you figure out the k-d-m issue yet? | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: haven't had a look | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: but assuming my todo doesn't grow a 100% after mail reading tomorrow I probably can look into it and/or continue the refactor to get that out of the way | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: needs fixing today :S | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | are we freezing already | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | today IIRC | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | pff | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | I doubt I'll get it tracked down in 50 minutes | 15:07 |
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| shadeslayer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | lemme try to reproduce it for starters | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | just try to install a driver :P | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | the entire day just slipped by :/ | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | I killed 4 todo items :P | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | by outsourcing, muhahaha | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it's better if mondays go by fasterly | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | all I did today was the plasma meeting, read why displays servers matter and fix some Neon 5 ISO bugs | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | display servers matter? what? | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | http://bobthegnome.blogspot.com/2014/03/why-display-server-doesnt-matter.html | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | does windows have a display server as well? | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/03/why-the-display-server-does-matter/ | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2014/03/more-on-why-display-server-does-matter.html | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | teaparty nonesense | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | what's the point of blogging about this at all | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | idk | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | and so much text | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | bikeshed much | 15:11 |
| * apachelogger watches a progressbar while the internet is being slow because ISO sync has just triggered -.- | 15:11 | |
| shadeslayer | aw | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pkdusquh4 | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | expressions get evaluated outside chroot | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | what? | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/p1pgvtz91 | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | code inside neon-image | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | line 6 gets evaluated when the config is written | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | odd | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | not necessarily | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | depends on how the thing is used TBH | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | looking at the output I reckon you need some fancy escaping | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | but even so, it really very much all depends on how this is used in the image | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I see the broken driver thing | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | interestingly the dbus thingum doesn't sned anything when queried again | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | *shrug* | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | workaround | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | it also doesn't on refresh | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | makes this loads more debuggable ^^ | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | ah I know why | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | that's deliberate breakage | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: will need fixing tomorrow | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | can't do that today, the problem is that with the current structure you have no state control | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | i.e. loading is dependent on qapt being inited | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | but initedness is not tracked etc. | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | half the stuff you said went over my head | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | so I suppose a hotfix, if you want to do one, is bool m_backendinitd; and check that in load() and xapianUpdateFinished() | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: look at function xapianUpdateFinished | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | oh actually | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just call xapianUpdateFinished in load() | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | I think I already partially restructured, just forgot to rewire load() | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fun http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/24/plasma-desktopKA2152.png | 15:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's the branch to use for gstreamer 1.0 phonon support? | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: 1.0-for-merge | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | or something like that | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon-gstreamer/repository/show?rev=1.0-porting-for-merge | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: after install? | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no, before | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | ah yes | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: add a bool m_backendinit'd | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | no wait, that will also not work | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | it's the old mutual exlusion problem :P | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just let it be :P | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | let it be broken today? | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | oh well | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it's not broken | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | it just has display state problems :P | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | 'looks' pretty broken xD | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what you can do is bool m_initialloaddone | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | or | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | also crap :P | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | or maybe | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | ah I dunno | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bool m_loading | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | fix it tomorrow | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | ISO release is later | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | we can upload bug fixes I suppose | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | set to true in xapianupdatefinished iff the qdbus wiring happens | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ we'll need exception for this | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | set to false in gotDevices | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | that still has the timing issue | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | but if you want a hotfix today then you'll have to live with that :P | 15:37 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: who what? | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: kubuntu-driver-manager is busted | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | can't install drivers | 15:38 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: seems like a problem, is someone fixing it? | 15:40 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no like "Phonon::GStreamer::Backend: Failed to initialize GStreamer" | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: make sure you have 1) QtWebkit built with gst1.0 | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | 2) various gstreamer 1.0 packages | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | else it's not going to work | 15:40 |
| Riddell | hmm, dragon says it's worked after installing gstreamer1.0-plugins-good but it's not actually playing anything | 15:41 |
| ahoneybun | having problems playing videos Riddell ? | 15:41 |
| sgclark | Riddell: homerun ready in my ubuntu one. I tested both and they appear to function as expected now. | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: again, needs Qtwebkit built with gstreamer 1.0 | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | I mean, it will NOT work without that | 15:42 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: I'm trying phonon-gstreamer1.0, I'm having problems playing anything | 15:42 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: dragon needs qtwebkit? | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | dragon needs kdeui which needs something which loads qtwebkit | 15:43 |
| ahoneybun | I could never get anything to play in dragon | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: pmap `pidof dragon' | 15:43 |
| ahoneybun | even installed the restricted packages | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: pmap `pidof dragon` | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: pastebin that plz | 15:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pmap | 15:44 |
| ahoneybun | is there still that debate about the two different gstreamer packages but really the same | 15:44 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: there's still gstreamer0.10 and gstreamer1.0 | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, Riddell: oh yeah, on-demand plugin install of qapt is only compatible with gst0.10 that might matter | 15:49 |
| Riddell | playing music might matter too :( | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | I mean saying you probably need more plugin packages | 15:51 |
| * Riddell installs more | 15:53 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ooh yay you're right | 15:56 |
| * apachelogger wonders how one wants to write 'am' and ends up with 'mean' | 15:57 | |
| Peace- | :) | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: have you installed plugins-base | 16:22 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: drunk autocorrecT? | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: and gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio is usually the one missing which causes all sorts of sound issues | 16:26 |
| Riddell | yeah I think it was gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio which made it work | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 16:29 |
| sgclark | Riddell: fixed .pri but have this unrelated lintian error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7147028/ | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: good to know it's working | 16:31 |
| Riddell | sgclark: does it mention phonon-dbg in debian/control ? | 16:43 |
| Riddell | sgclark: and does phonon-dbg exist? | 16:43 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yes and phonon-dbg suggests libphonon4qt5 | 16:44 |
| Riddell | sgclark: oh it's libphonon4qt5 which doesn't exist | 16:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: oh it sshould be libphonon4qt5-4 | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | sounds about right | 16:49 |
| Riddell | sgclark: also libphonon4qt5-4-dev.install is unused | 16:50 |
| sgclark | Riddell: it is? there is stuff in there | 16:50 |
| Riddell | sgclark: but there's no such package, the file is unused | 16:52 |
| Riddell | libphonon4qt5-dev.install is used | 16:52 |
| sgclark | oh right | 16:53 |
| * shadeslayer looks at yofel's firefox bug | 16:53 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: okay that should be fixed upstream IMHI | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | *IMHO | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | I have no clue if that'll break regular themes or not | 16:57 |
| sgclark | Riddell: did you see that homerun is in my ubuntu one? | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | I thought I uploaded homerun, huh | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: make sure the md5sum is correct for homerun btw | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | Eike switched out tars shortly after release | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | like a couple of minutes | 16:58 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: you uploaded 1.2.1, that's old news, you're 0.0.1 behind the times | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: no, I'm talking about 1.2.2 | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | since sgclark mentioned it | 17:01 |
| Riddell | no sign of it in launchpad | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | no, sgclark mentioned she had 1.2.2 on ubuntu one | 17:02 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: I fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/homerun/+bug/1275243 | 17:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1275243 in homerun (Ubuntu) "plasma-widget-homerun-kicker package should depend on plasma-widget-homerun" [Undecided,New] | 17:02 |
| sgclark | correct I did, because it is ready :) | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: can you show me what you did? | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | link to dsc | 17:02 |
| Riddell | sgclark: some fixes needed http://paste.kde.org/pandwhmev | 17:05 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/homerun_1.2.2-0ubuntu1.dsc | 17:06 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok will fix those, phonon is ubuntu one | 17:06 |
| sgclark | Riddell: # 3 is empty? | 17:08 |
| Riddell | sgclark: just a blank line, ignore | 17:09 |
| Riddell | sgclark: phonon all good but you didn't add a new changelog entry, dch -i is your friend, fixing and uploading | 17:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ummm but I did. I thought I was suppose to dch -a since it was not a new release | 17:11 |
| Riddell | sgclark: it's a new upload to the ubuntu archive, each upload to the archive needs a new changelog | 17:11 |
| Riddell | sgclark: uploads to PPAs may not need a new changelog (depending on preferred development style) | 17:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ah phonon-gstreamer1.0 doesn't compile with qt5 | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: FWIW we should get PAM integration working sometime this week | 17:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: with kwallet? | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do you think I can sneak it in this week then | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | or do I have to wait till next week | 17:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: will that get rid of the broken gpg integration? | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | IDK | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | that's pretty broken :p | 17:21 |
| Riddell | hmm | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | but for 99% of the users it won't matter | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | because they don't use gpg | 17:21 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: mm but gpg is prompted by default for new users currently | 17:21 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: anyway, it depends when it's ready to go in | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Alex says disable it since it does not have PAM integration | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | and probably won't till Plasma Next | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | I agree with him since it's utterly broken | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | plus he mentions that the hash is as secure as gpg | 17:23 |
| Riddell | where can it be disabled? | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | yeah was just looking at that | 17:24 |
| Riddell | probably some build-dep we added to kdelibs or kde-runtime or the like | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: compile option | 17:25 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: able to remove it? | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | wat wat wat , kwallet is at 4.12.2 | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | manager probably | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah doing | 17:28 |
| sgclark | Riddell: homerun ready | 17:29 |
| ScottK | yofel: What needs to be added to our packageset? | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I've emailed valentin since I can't find an option to disable it | 17:49 |
| === frecel_ is now known as frecel | ||
| shadeslayer | I'm done for the day, cya tomorrow | 17:52 |
| === frecel_ is now known as frecel | ||
| yofel | ScottK: my uploads that were rejected with insufficient permission were: artikulate, baloo, baloo-widgets, kfilemetadata, kqtquickcharts, kwalletmanager, libkomparediff2 | 19:15 |
| ScottK | yofel: Thanks. | 19:15 |
| yofel | not sure why baloo was rejected, that should be on the image, right? | 19:15 |
| ScottK | Packageset updates aren't automatic. | 19:16 |
| yofel | ah right | 19:16 |
| ScottK | I'll try and fix it later today. | 19:16 |
| yofel | ScottK: oh, and I just remembered something: zeroconf-ioslave (former kdnssd) wasn't uploaded I think | 19:16 |
| yofel | Riddell: could you look at that ^ | 19:16 |
| Riddell | hmm, will do | 19:17 |
| yofel | uhm, changelog might need fixing, shadeslayer sed-ed that I think.... | 19:18 |
| Riddell | anyone able to test gstreamer1.0 ? | 19:20 |
| yofel | if you mention something that uses it...? | 19:20 |
| Riddell | yofel: trusty, add ppa:jr install phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 | 19:21 |
| Riddell | yofel: play music in amarok and videos in dragon | 19:21 |
| Riddell | yay qtwebkit works with gstreamer1.0 | 19:24 |
| Riddell | !testers |phonon gstreamer 1.0 ↑ | 19:48 |
| ubottu | phonon gstreamer 1.0 ↑: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley for information | 19:48 |
| yofel | dragon worked fine for both video and audio | 19:49 |
| yofel | amarok just plain crashed | 19:50 |
| yofel | let me get a proper trace | 19:50 |
| yofel | uhm | 19:51 |
| yofel | #6 0x00007f854ba9c91c in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 | 19:51 |
| yofel | that's not supposed to happen... | 19:51 |
| Riddell | um | 19:51 |
| Riddell | you might want to log out & in | 19:52 |
| yofel | I rebooted... | 19:52 |
| Riddell | hum | 19:52 |
| Riddell | do you still have phonon gstreamer 0.10 installed? | 19:52 |
| yofel | nope, that got removed by the 1.0 backend | 19:53 |
| yofel | un phonon-backend-gstreamer <none> <none> (no description available) | 19:53 |
| yofel | Riddell: qtwebkit maybe? | 19:54 |
| Riddell | aah, that's why shadeslayer was so insistant on it | 19:54 |
| Riddell | yofel: starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libqtwebkit4_2.3.2-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb | 19:55 |
| yofel | Riddell: much better :) | 19:57 |
| yofel | Riddell: seems to work fine | 19:58 |
| Riddell | yay | 20:00 |
| Riddell | but no automatic install of codecs | 20:01 |
| Riddell | but then libav will install if you tick the box at ubiquity | 20:01 |
| Riddell | hmm | 20:01 |
| Riddell | yofel: makes sense to try it for this beta? | 20:01 |
| yofel | is anyone else affected by chaning the gestreamer version for qt4? | 20:01 |
| yofel | *gstreamer | 20:02 |
| kdeuser56 | when I change to a source directory I check out with apt-get source ... and run "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" the package is rebuilt isn't it? | 20:02 |
| yofel | kdeuser56: dpkg-buildpackage will build it, right | 20:02 |
| Riddell | I think only kde stuff uses phonon | 20:03 |
| Riddell | skype and spotify use their own thing | 20:03 |
| yofel | libgstreamer0.10-0 has a bunch of rdepends, qtwebkit and phonon being 2 of those. We might be fine, but I'm personally not an audio expert | 20:04 |
| yofel | apachelogger: your opinion? ^ | 20:05 |
| Riddell | there's nothing wrong with it having rdepends, you can have gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 used that the same time | 20:08 |
| Riddell | just not in the same application preferably :) | 20:08 |
| Riddell | yofel: I think I'll upload unless you have any major objections | 20:09 |
| yofel | not really, but the plan should be to get rid of gstreamer0.10 from the image then, that way we can at least be sure our default install will be fine | 20:10 |
| Riddell | oh sure | 20:10 |
| Riddell | telepathy-haze might be the only thing that keeps it on | 20:11 |
| yofel | hm, should be fine, libpurple doesn't use phonon | 20:15 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion calligra 2.8.1 | 20:21 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1296935 | 20:21 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: why does haze need 0.10? | 20:33 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: libpurple uses 0.10, haze uses libpurple | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | and why does purple need 0.10 | 20:34 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: presumably it's not ported | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | a adventure beckons | 20:55 |
| yofel | tried building piding against gst1, just complains that audio/video support is missing and fails | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | pft | 21:25 |
| Quintasan | THIS IS SUFFERING | 23:04 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Databases in goddamn MS Access. | 23:04 |
| Quintasan | and on embedded systems we're coding Xlets for goddamn MHP | 23:05 |
| Quintasan | the emulator doesnt work for half of the features and the devices are so old the manufacturer does not want to touch them | 23:06 |
| Quintasan | *rant mode off* | 23:06 |
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