[00:13] <fibz_> http://pastebin.com/YwNUrt4f   http://pastebin.com/TaPEpuPy
[00:44] <fibz_> looks like im going to need to make a custom xorg.conf but i dont know how
[01:22] <fibz_> tried running Xorg -configure in as root without X and get "Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in DoConfigure()"
[03:33] <sgo11> is that possible to fix bug #1296020 before 14.04 trusty release? thanks. it's critical to me because I can not use gdm and gnome-shell because of this.
[05:48] <alex_> hi
[05:53] <fibz_> hi
[06:44] <fibz_> oh my god
[06:45] <fibz_> it just started working correctly in-explicatively
[06:51] <fibz_> disregard
[06:52] <fibz_> everything is all good. thanks ppl! ^_^
[07:13] <alkisg> kvm is crashing for at least a month in trusty for me, does it also crash for someone else?
[07:14] <sandGorgon> alkisg, did you try virtualbox ? wanted to see if both crash which means some kernel level stuff is borked
[07:16] <alkisg> sandGorgon: virtualbox works fine
[07:49] <alkisg> It works with accel=tcg... but it's unusably slow...
[08:22] <prainworker_> good morning!
[08:22] <prainworker_> can someone help me for a sec
[08:22] <prainworker_> i was send from the ubuntu channel to this one because i have problem to get my nvidia driver aktive in 14.04
[08:22] <lordievader> prainworker_: Ask your question, perhaps someone can help.
[08:22] <elfy> !ask
[08:23] <prainworker_> if i am under software sources and the driver tap
[08:24] <prainworker_> click on the driver for my card 331.38 it sourdly try to download something and than jumps back to the open source driver
[08:24] <prainworker_> fresh out of the box install
[08:24] <prainworker_> only thing done in ubuntu channel was
[08:24] <prainworker_> apt-get install updates
[08:25] <prainworker_> and apt-get install upgrates
[08:25] <Wnt> those commands make no sense
[08:26] <lordievader> I think he means: apt-get update&&apt-get upgrade.
[08:26] <elfy> apt-get update and upgrade makes no sense?
[08:26] <elfy> lordievader: I'm going to wait till you post before I type anything :p
[08:26] <sgo11> prainworker_, hi, I am using nvidia-driver here. what is your problem?
[08:26] <lordievader> elfy: Hihi ;)
[08:26] <prainworker_> ok what i have to to
[08:27] <prainworker_> sgo11 hey good morning
[08:27] <prainworker_> i fresh installed 14.04 to get some support for new wacom
[08:27] <prainworker_> when i try to install the latest driver from nv
[08:27] <prainworker_> over the software sources it allways jumps back to open source
[08:28] <Wnt> how can one install the nvidia binary driver via the command line? maybe that's something you might want to try?
[08:28] <Wnt> at least then you should get an error message
[08:28] <sgo11> prainworker_, for me, I never use GUI to install nvidia driver. you can try it in command line.
[08:28] <Wnt> if the GUI does'nt handle errors that well
[08:28] <prainworker_> sgo11 can you guid me on that
[08:29] <sgo11> prainworker_, first, "sudo apt-get purge <your nvidia packages>". and then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"
[08:30] <prainworker_> where to i find the info for your pkg full name i mean
[08:30] <sgo11> prainworker_, I don't know what nvidia packages you installed. check it with "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[08:31] <sgo11> prainworker_, remove or purge them. and then use "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"
[08:31] <prainworker_> sgo11
[08:31] <prainworker_> no output only >
[08:32] <sgo11> prainworker_, no output of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" ?
[08:32] <prainworker_> yes
[08:32] <sgo11> prainworker_, if there is no output, that means you haven't installed any nvidia packages.
[08:33] <sgo11> prainworker_, just run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"
[08:33] <sgo11> prainworker_, after it completes, reboots your system. hopefully, it will work. :)
[08:33] <prainworker_> ok wait here is something fish i dont get output at all
[08:34] <prainworker_> will kill xserver be back in a mom
[08:39] <elfy> sgo11: wouldn't it be an idea to find out what card they have, -331 might not be the right package for them
[08:40] <sgo11> elfy, oh. you might be right. I always installed the latest driver. :)
[08:41] <elfy> :)
[08:49] <gnumdk> Hello
[08:50] <gnumdk> Instant messaging is broken since Ubuntu 13.10 (13.04?): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1261060
[08:50] <gnumdk> will this be fixed in LTS 14.04?
[09:00] <prainworker> sgo11 hey thx a lot for help ! nvidia settings start fine from comand line
[09:00] <prainworker> will go and install blender and krita and finally get to work
[09:01] <prainworker> my new wacom
[09:01] <sgo11> prainworker, cool. enjoy your nvidia driver. :)
[09:01] <prainworker> sgo11 to you know if there is a way to controll nvidia fan speed somehow
[09:02] <sgo11> prainworker, sorry. I don't know. never try that.
[09:03] <prainworker> sgo11 how about multilib support in 14.04  64  bit
[09:03] <prainworker> will it work allready
[09:03] <prainworker> because yesterday when i try to install steam i came up with unsolved depentency errors ! and as far i know steam is only 32 bit jet
[09:04] <prainworker> right know i have lol and steam running on slackware! but there is no support jet for my wacom
[09:07] <sgo11> I never play games in ubuntu. I don't know. unsolved dependencies might because of your bad repos again.
[09:08] <prainworker> have a nice on sgo11
[10:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:04] <SuperLag> Anyone else have issues with your system making you login twice? When I log in, after the system has been on screensaver and then sent to the login, screen... it will log in, then I use the system for a few seconds, then it kicks me back to the login screen again.
[11:04] <SuperLag> and after I log in the second time, everything works as expected
[11:07] <SuperLag> I'm not sure what description I'd use to describe that, for searching for an existing bug.
[11:07] <Wnt> SuperLag: which desktop environment and loging manager are you using?
[11:13] <SuperLag> Plain old vanilla Ubuntu... so Unity and LightDM.
[11:17] <SuperLag> another question... why won't Ubuntu let me set Chrome as the default browser? It has no issue with Firefox Nightly being the default, but Chrome won't stick
[11:42] <maxb> SuperLag: Your "login twice" issue - do you have two monitors?
[12:32] <SuperLag> maxb: nope
[12:32] <maxb> SuperLag: Oh. I have the problem you describe on *one* of three machines running Trusty. I was wondering if the dual monitors could somehow be realted
[12:33] <maxb> *related
[12:33] <SuperLag> maxb: actually... not on the affected system. I have a nearly identical install at work, with two monitors, and it doesn't exhibit this issue.
[12:33] <SuperLag> maxb: the affected machine is a laptop. Lenovo ThinkPad W530.
[12:35] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, what's the cpu and gpu in the W530? Just curious because I'm using a G500
[12:36] <SuperLag> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz
[12:37] <SuperLag> and GPU is an Nvidia Quadro K1000M w/2GB
[12:38] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: and with enough bad experiences, I've learned just to stick with the nouveau driver. Trying to get the closed binary *working* and *well*... it's like a house of cards
[12:39] <SuperLag> i.e. you might be able to get it up, and working, but the slightest wind can knock it over again.
[12:39] <SuperLag> Hopefully with Nvidia extending the "olive branch" and providing more code, nouveau will only get better.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, nice machine :)
[12:40] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: this laptop seriously kicks ass. Too bad the W540 came out shortly thereafter. :)
[12:41] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: 32GB of RAM and 3x SSDs, too. It's really nice to not have to worry about RAM.
[12:41]  * SuperLag will shut up now. :)
[12:43] <SuperLag> I think what I might start doing is rather than separating out /home into its own partition, is doing the ~user/{Desktop,Documents,Downloads,Music,Pictures,Videos} on their own partition and bindmounting them. Is that a crazy idea?
[12:43] <SuperLag> the idea being that an upgrade is still like a fresh install, but all the data is still there
[12:50] <progers> Hello
[12:51] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, dunno, never tried that, a separate /home was all I ever used in the last few yrs and without any problems. I've done clean installs to / while retaining the data in /home without anty effects
[12:51] <progers> Hehe don't know what happend but the printer is working :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj> sometimes loaded modules don't stick until after a reboot
[12:54] <BluesKaj> getting to be like windows :(
[12:58] <mamarley> SuperLag: A K1000M with nouveau?  That's like buying a Mustang and only ever driving it at 20MPH...
[13:00] <mamarley> What version of the blob did you try?  Did you install it using the Ubuntu package?
[13:10] <progers> Who know where i can find some good (apt) documentation? So i can use apt well
[13:11] <BluesKaj> yes SuperLag with that gpu the nvidia-331 driver should work like a charm
[13:11] <k1l_> !apt | progers
[13:12] <progers> ubottu: Thanks
[13:12] <progers> ubottu: -_-
[13:13] <progers> So thats guy is a bot?
[13:13] <Pici> !bot
[13:13] <DJones> progers: Yep
[13:14] <progers> Ok i am just new with those irc channels did not know that there is bots too :)
[13:15] <DJones> progers: Only a couple of bots, ubottu for factoids, a logbot and an anti-paste bot in some channels, other than that, not many bots in the channels
[13:16] <progers> DJones: thanks
[13:28] <BLZbubba> i saw a few posts about Mate going into the default Ubuntu repos, but how do I get it to work?
[13:28] <BLZbubba> I didn't see any packages containing mate-session
[13:29] <BLZbubba> this is on a Tahr install that I'm playing with
[13:46] <SuperLag> maxb: back to your earlier question. I was incorrect. I *am* experiencing that same issue on my work machine.
[13:46] <SuperLag> mamarley: I didn't get that machine for the video power. I got it for the expandibility. I have 32GB of RAM in that laptop, and *3* SSDs.
[13:47] <mamarley> SuperLag: Yeah, but you will also get better battery life with the blob.
[13:47] <SuperLag> mamarley: you think?
[13:47] <mamarley> Have you tried installing nvidia-331?  It should work just fine.
[13:47] <mamarley> I know.
[13:48] <mamarley> Nouveau doesn't support any kind of power scaling yet.
[13:48] <SuperLag> mamarley: not since 13.04. And the last time I messed with the Nvidia blob, it was a fucking nightmare.
[13:48] <SuperLag> and that's putting it mildly
[13:48] <mamarley> What kind of problems occurred?
[13:49] <SuperLag> no X.
[13:49] <mamarley> And you installed using the Ubuntu package?
[13:49] <SuperLag> yes
[13:49] <mamarley> Hmm, that's odd.  I still think you should try it again though.
[13:50] <SuperLag> that was another lesson I learned along the way... don't *ever* do it from the plain installer you get from nvidia.com
[13:50] <mamarley> I have a similar system (Thinkpad T530) and it worked out-of-the-box here.
[13:50] <mamarley> That's definitely true.  Ubuntu (and probably Debian too) do some screwy stuff with GL libs, and nvidia's .run installer can't handle that very well.
[13:50] <SuperLag> mamarley: if the Intel driver would work on anything other than the VGA output, I'd just use it.
[13:51] <mamarley> Oh, that's another thing.  Do you have Optimus disabled in the BIOS?
[13:51] <SuperLag> yes
[13:51] <mamarley> OK, that's what I do too.
[13:51] <SuperLag> I don't do the switching.
[13:51] <SuperLag> I tell it to use the Discrete card.
[13:52] <mamarley> I would recommend giving nvidia-331 another shot.  If it breaks X, you can always remove it again and it should go back to Nouveau without any trouble.
[13:53] <SuperLag> mamarley: that wasn't always so cut & dry either.
[13:53] <SuperLag> (going back to nouveau)
[13:53] <mamarley> But you should save the dmesg log and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log for postmortem examination.
[13:53] <mamarley> So maybe somebody can figure out why it doesn't work.
[13:54] <SuperLag> mamarley: one of the issues, I'm sure, was that the then-current Nvidia driver didn't want to play nice with VMware. And as I use that *daily*, I didn't have time/desire/patience to drill down and figure out what was the root cause of the issue.
[13:55]  * mamarley doesn't know anything about vmware, sorry.
[14:10] <SuperLag> one of the reasons I got a beefy laptop with LOTS of RAM.... I'm running a minimum of 4 VMs at any given time. :)
[14:10] <SuperLag> I was looking for one that could do 64GB of RAM... but no dice. Yet.
[14:15] <mamarley> It just seems a shame to neuter such a powerful system by running a driver that won't let you take advantage of the GPU.
[14:20] <sgo11> hi, I am using nvidia driver. I remembered xorg.conf is not required before. the configuration can be detected and setup at runtime somehow. but today, when I remove xorg.conf, it just doesn't work. why? is xorg.conf required in trusty? thanks.
[14:29] <SuperLag> mamarley: no neutering, really... nothing I do even requires anything more powerful than the Intel. It's all Java, and a web browser. So the CPU, RAM and storage for the VMs are more than adequate.
[14:56] <SuperLag> Interesting. Just updated my work machine, and now none of my VMs think there is enough swap.
[15:03] <progers> Is there any difference beetween the kde compositing type with opengl 2.0 or opengl3.1?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> progers, i haven't seen much diff , perhaps 2.0 is somewhat more stable with fewer effects , but I haven't seen much diff
[15:06] <progers> Ok will keep it at 2.0 but my video card is powerfull so i think it can handle the opengl3.1
[15:13] <S466531257BOSS> hi : has anyone an idea how to fix a trusty install from live-system (succesful until 2nd reboot ) that was booted live to test and install by using forcepae on a pentium mobile
[15:14] <S466531257BOSS> even the recovery option from grub hangs with a 20 to 25secs timeout of the cpu
[15:14] <S466531257BOSS> all went well first boot live and flawlessly on 2nd boot into the installed system
[15:14] <S466531257BOSS> forcepae is set in grub
[15:24] <aljosa> anybody experiencing system/gui blocked for couple of seconds and then everything works normally in 14.04/dev? intel hw/mb air
[16:19] <mar_dan> hello
[16:47] <darklight_> I made the horrible mistake of opening the ubuntu one application, now it's worse than spyware I just can't get it to stop running
[16:51] <k1l_> of course its spyware m(
[16:51] <BLZbubba> did you try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda  yet?
[16:53] <darklight_> BLZbubba, no I did try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=8m though
[16:54] <BLZbubba> trading one problem for a different one :P
[16:54] <darklight_> jokes aside it should just stop autostarting when I tell him to not sync automatically, or when I remove my computer as a ubuntu one device
[16:56] <darklight_> apparently it looks for the ubuntu-one folder in $HOME, once that's gone it stops autostarting
[17:00] <BLZbubba> how do you define "it"
[17:00] <BLZbubba> you mean the unity wm always wants to run it?
[17:03] <darklight_> BLZbubba, I mean the daemon stops being autostarted, I don't know what starts it since it's not a upstart daemon I guess it's unity yes
[17:13] <darklight_> couple of unrelated issues: hotcorners randomly stop working, launcher autohide randomly leaves a ghost
[17:25] <cojack> yo guy
[17:25] <cojack> s*
[17:25] <cojack> Im testing new kubuntu 14.04 beta, and I would like to test it on laptop with efi and ssd + hdd
[17:25] <cojack> but I have no idea how to prepare partitions, there is efi boot partition, wtf?
[17:26] <cojack> how to properly set up those things?
[17:26] <cojack> where set up which mount point?
[17:33] <Alex_> cojack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition
[17:33] <cojack> Alex_: won't help
[17:34] <Alex_> cojack: so what is your question then?
[17:34] <Alex_> cojack: I thought you don't know what if efi partition ;)
[17:35] <cojack> Alex_: the question is
[17:36] <cojack> how to prepare partitions with ssd + hdd with efi, where efi partition should be, on ssd or hdd? Where install grub on ssd or hdd, where set up /boot on ssd or hdd?
[18:17] <cojack> uhm
[18:18] <cojack> modify /etc/default/grub no effect
[18:18] <cojack> yes, yes I do after this sudo update-grub
[18:28] <cojack> /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober override settings
[18:28] <cojack> if you set up grub to hide menu
[18:30] <cojack> set timeout_style=menu, this override setting from /etc/default/grub
[19:04] <starrats> hello everyone, I have a problem when I logon onto xubuntu 14.04LTS pre-release, I was sent over here by one of their devel nicks.  My cursor has been 'freezing/locking up' on me when I whjen i'm at the little password window at start-up I have tried many things and most have failed, i end up doing a hard shtudown to reboot, can someone help me here, please.
[19:05] <starrats> besides my spelling, lol
[19:22] <starrats> just curious if any of you might be able to help me?
[19:23] <Progers___> Try gentoo, it has less bugs :)
[19:24] <starrats> hahaha not the answer I'm looking for
[19:25] <rww> Progers___: one would hope that Gentoo has fewer bugs than a pre-release development version of Ubuntu :P
[19:25] <Progers___> :D
[19:25] <starrats> this might be true but gentoo is not my bag at the moment
[19:26] <starrats> and why are you pressing gentoo when you're on a ubuntu page?
[19:26] <darthanubis> coming up on beta freeze
[19:27] <starrats> I'm truly asking for help and don't need the funny stuff
[19:27] <darthanubis> lots of activity in repos today
[19:27] <darthanubis> I love it!
[19:28] <Progers___> starrats: Because i am not using gentoo at this moment :)
[19:28] <rww> (I think in general, joking around in a support channel with people trying to get help is a dicey way to do things. Tends to cause unhappiness.)
[19:30] <jack> true that
[19:31] <starrats> thank you rww I'm frustrated as hell, all was going 'smooth as silk for days and the last two have been bad for me the start=up window aka password window my cursor locks up/freezes and i have to do a hard shutdown on my comp, not good!
[19:31] <Progers___> If no one is answering then 1- the person who know the answer is sleeping 2- he is watching a tv
[19:31] <starrats> ok that makes more sense than go try gentoo
[19:31] <Progers___> But gentoo is good too:)
[19:32] <jack> ...
[19:33] <jack> i'm just downloading bodhilinux-3.0-alpha.iso
[19:33] <Progers___> jack: based on ubuntu?
[19:33] <jack> let's see how cool this ubuntu-clone is :)
[19:33] <jack> yep
[19:34] <jack> 3.0 is based on trusty
[19:34] <Progers___> LInuxMInt is cool
[19:34] <jack> i know
[19:34] <jack> tried it already
[19:34] <Progers___> freebsd cool too
[19:35] <jack> different though :)
[19:35] <jack> i love dpkg+apt
[19:35] <Progers___> and portage
[19:35] <jack> = gentoo
[19:35] <Progers___> :)
[19:36] <Progers___> jack: What do u use now?
[19:42] <jack> Progers___, ubuntu saucy
[19:43] <jack> just upgrading to trusty
[19:43] <Progers___> jack: Oh i am using Kubuntu 14.04
[19:44] <jack> nice
[19:44] <jack> any drawbacks?
[19:45] <Progers___> jack: Sorry i cant understand all the english, but you mean errors or bugs?
[19:45] <jack> anything like that, yeah
[19:46] <Progers___> jack: There was some bugs with kde, but i saw this bug just 1 time
[19:46] <jack> oh, you're from .ru
[19:47] <jack> sorry...
[19:47] <Progers___> I have kde 4.12.95 yasterday it was 4.12.90
[19:47] <jack> yeah, lots of updates atm
[19:47] <Progers___> Hate unity :D
[19:48] <Progers___> Stable unity has more bugs than pre-release KDE :)
[19:48] <jack> hehe
[19:48] <jack> might be true :P
[19:49] <Progers___> I still must learn more commands to better use Linux, gentoo helped me with that, but i need more :D
[19:51] <jack> as long as you know cat+man, you're good to go
[19:51] <Progers___> :)
[19:52] <jack> dmesg can be helpful too
[19:52] <Progers___> Yes
[19:52] <Progers___> But i consentrate more at programming now
[19:53] <jack> c? cpp?
[19:53] <Progers___> C++
[19:53] <Progers___> cpp
[19:53] <Progers___> qt and C++
[19:54] <jack> nice
[19:55] <Progers___> jack: Do u programm?
[19:57] <jack> Progers___, i did
[19:57] <jack> long ago
[19:58] <Progers___> jack: Programming on linux is good? So i used to programm at windows all the time
[19:58] <jack> linux is lots better :P
[19:59] <Progers___> jack: Emacs or Vim
[20:00] <jack> if i need to choose: vim
[20:00] <Progers___> jack: Hehe i am using emacs right now :D so i can play tetris :D
[20:00] <jack> :P
[20:06] <Progers___> jack: Do u know how to connect gimp forms to one form?
[20:53] <starrats> maybe now there will be someone that can answer me on my problem about a logon problem I am having with xubuntu 14.04 (trusty Tahr), problem is as follows;  When i turn on my laptop and go to the xubuntu screen and then it goes to the logon screen where my password is to be  used to logon on the cursor/pointer freezes/locks up on me and nothing works to unfreeze the cursor other than a hard shutdown, not good and i don't like doing it.
[20:53] <starrats>   So is there anyone here that can give me a solution to this problem I'm having.
[20:54] <lordievader> SorenHolm: It's currently not running... But I supose one. PA refuses to start another if one is already running.
[20:56] <SorenHolm> lordievader: Not anymore - try firering up the latest cdimage in virtualbox or something.
[20:57] <lordievader> If I finish reading these sheets I'll fire up my netboot.
[21:14] <lordievader> SorenHolm: Hehe, you're right, here are also two instances of PA. Strange.
[21:14] <lordievader> Hehe, killing it didn't do much good, now there are four.
[21:14] <aljosa> soundcard not working on MacBookAir5,2 after i've upgraded to 14.04/dev. any suggestions?
[21:14] <SorenHolm> lordievader: It started happening around a week ago. Problably the same time the kde 4.13 upgrade began.
[21:15] <SorenHolm> lordievader: rm /etc/xdg/autostart/puleaudio* does not help.
[21:16] <lordievader> SorenHolm: Have you checked if Ubuntu shows the same behaviour by any chance?
[21:17] <SorenHolm> lordievader: no - but that might be a good test.
[21:20] <lordievader> SorenHolm: Disabling the autospawn and manually starting PA only creates one instance.
[21:20] <lordievader> Then trying to create another fails with PA complaining that "Daemon already running"
[21:21] <lordievader> SorenHolm: I suppose you reported bug 1296425
[21:22] <SorenHolm> lordievader: correct. That's me.
[21:22] <lordievader> Now it's confirmed ;)
[21:22] <SorenHolm> lordievader: thanks :D