[00:13] http://pastebin.com/YwNUrt4f http://pastebin.com/TaPEpuPy [00:44] looks like im going to need to make a custom xorg.conf but i dont know how [01:22] tried running Xorg -configure in as root without X and get "Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in DoConfigure()" [03:33] is that possible to fix bug #1296020 before 14.04 trusty release? thanks. it's critical to me because I can not use gdm and gnome-shell because of this. [03:33] bug 1296020 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[Asus U36JC] Non-existent display detected in both intel driver and nvidia driver (Optimus Laptop) (ubuntu trusty 14.04)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296020 [05:48] hi [05:53] hi [06:44] oh my god [06:45] it just started working correctly in-explicatively [06:51] disregard [06:52] everything is all good. thanks ppl! ^_^ [07:13] kvm is crashing for at least a month in trusty for me, does it also crash for someone else? [07:14] alkisg, did you try virtualbox ? wanted to see if both crash which means some kernel level stuff is borked [07:16] sandGorgon: virtualbox works fine === gac_ is now known as gac === onlty is now known as The_Jews === The_Jews is now known as onlty === jack_ is now known as jack === jack is now known as Guest3029 === zequence_ is now known as zequence [07:49] It works with accel=tcg... but it's unusably slow... [08:22] good morning! [08:22] can someone help me for a sec [08:22] i was send from the ubuntu channel to this one because i have problem to get my nvidia driver aktive in 14.04 [08:22] prainworker_: Ask your question, perhaps someone can help. [08:22] !ask [08:22] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [08:23] if i am under software sources and the driver tap [08:24] click on the driver for my card 331.38 it sourdly try to download something and than jumps back to the open source driver [08:24] fresh out of the box install [08:24] only thing done in ubuntu channel was [08:24] apt-get install updates [08:25] and apt-get install upgrates [08:25] those commands make no sense [08:26] I think he means: apt-get update&&apt-get upgrade. [08:26] apt-get update and upgrade makes no sense? [08:26] lordievader: I'm going to wait till you post before I type anything :p [08:26] prainworker_, hi, I am using nvidia-driver here. what is your problem? [08:26] elfy: Hihi ;) [08:26] ok what i have to to [08:27] sgo11 hey good morning [08:27] i fresh installed 14.04 to get some support for new wacom [08:27] when i try to install the latest driver from nv [08:27] over the software sources it allways jumps back to open source [08:28] how can one install the nvidia binary driver via the command line? maybe that's something you might want to try? [08:28] at least then you should get an error message [08:28] prainworker_, for me, I never use GUI to install nvidia driver. you can try it in command line. [08:28] if the GUI does'nt handle errors that well [08:28] sgo11 can you guid me on that [08:29] prainworker_, first, "sudo apt-get purge ". and then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331" [08:30] where to i find the info for your pkg full name i mean [08:30] prainworker_, I don't know what nvidia packages you installed. check it with "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" [08:31] prainworker_, remove or purge them. and then use "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331" [08:31] sgo11 [08:31] no output only > [08:32] prainworker_, no output of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" ? [08:32] yes [08:32] prainworker_, if there is no output, that means you haven't installed any nvidia packages. [08:33] prainworker_, just run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331" [08:33] prainworker_, after it completes, reboots your system. hopefully, it will work. :) [08:33] ok wait here is something fish i dont get output at all [08:34] will kill xserver be back in a mom [08:39] sgo11: wouldn't it be an idea to find out what card they have, -331 might not be the right package for them [08:40] elfy, oh. you might be right. I always installed the latest driver. :) [08:41] :) [08:49] Hello [08:50] Instant messaging is broken since Ubuntu 13.10 (13.04?): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1261060 [08:50] Launchpad bug 1261060 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "opening an unread message via the indicator makes empathy open an empty window, forgetting the msg" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:50] will this be fixed in LTS 14.04? [09:00] sgo11 hey thx a lot for help ! nvidia settings start fine from comand line [09:00] will go and install blender and krita and finally get to work [09:01] my new wacom [09:01] prainworker, cool. enjoy your nvidia driver. :) [09:01] sgo11 to you know if there is a way to controll nvidia fan speed somehow [09:02] prainworker, sorry. I don't know. never try that. [09:03] sgo11 how about multilib support in 14.04 64 bit [09:03] will it work allready [09:03] because yesterday when i try to install steam i came up with unsolved depentency errors ! and as far i know steam is only 32 bit jet [09:04] right know i have lol and steam running on slackware! but there is no support jet for my wacom [09:07] I never play games in ubuntu. I don't know. unsolved dependencies might because of your bad repos again. [09:08] have a nice on sgo11 === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl === Malinux_ is now known as Malinux [10:55] 'Morning folks [11:04] Anyone else have issues with your system making you login twice? When I log in, after the system has been on screensaver and then sent to the login, screen... it will log in, then I use the system for a few seconds, then it kicks me back to the login screen again. [11:04] and after I log in the second time, everything works as expected [11:07] I'm not sure what description I'd use to describe that, for searching for an existing bug. [11:07] SuperLag: which desktop environment and loging manager are you using? [11:13] Plain old vanilla Ubuntu... so Unity and LightDM. [11:17] another question... why won't Ubuntu let me set Chrome as the default browser? It has no issue with Firefox Nightly being the default, but Chrome won't stick [11:42] SuperLag: Your "login twice" issue - do you have two monitors? [12:32] maxb: nope [12:32] SuperLag: Oh. I have the problem you describe on *one* of three machines running Trusty. I was wondering if the dual monitors could somehow be realted [12:33] *related [12:33] maxb: actually... not on the affected system. I have a nearly identical install at work, with two monitors, and it doesn't exhibit this issue. [12:33] maxb: the affected machine is a laptop. Lenovo ThinkPad W530. [12:35] SuperLag, what's the cpu and gpu in the W530? Just curious because I'm using a G500 [12:36] model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz [12:37] and GPU is an Nvidia Quadro K1000M w/2GB [12:38] BluesKaj: and with enough bad experiences, I've learned just to stick with the nouveau driver. Trying to get the closed binary *working* and *well*... it's like a house of cards [12:39] i.e. you might be able to get it up, and working, but the slightest wind can knock it over again. [12:39] Hopefully with Nvidia extending the "olive branch" and providing more code, nouveau will only get better. [12:40] SuperLag, nice machine :) [12:40] BluesKaj: this laptop seriously kicks ass. Too bad the W540 came out shortly thereafter. :) [12:41] BluesKaj: 32GB of RAM and 3x SSDs, too. It's really nice to not have to worry about RAM. [12:41] * SuperLag will shut up now. :) [12:43] I think what I might start doing is rather than separating out /home into its own partition, is doing the ~user/{Desktop,Documents,Downloads,Music,Pictures,Videos} on their own partition and bindmounting them. Is that a crazy idea? [12:43] the idea being that an upgrade is still like a fresh install, but all the data is still there [12:50] Hello [12:51] SuperLag, dunno, never tried that, a separate /home was all I ever used in the last few yrs and without any problems. I've done clean installs to / while retaining the data in /home without anty effects [12:51] Hehe don't know what happend but the printer is working :) [12:53] sometimes loaded modules don't stick until after a reboot [12:54] getting to be like windows :( [12:58] SuperLag: A K1000M with nouveau? That's like buying a Mustang and only ever driving it at 20MPH... [13:00] What version of the blob did you try? Did you install it using the Ubuntu package? [13:10] Who know where i can find some good (apt) documentation? So i can use apt well [13:11] yes SuperLag with that gpu the nvidia-331 driver should work like a charm [13:11] !apt | progers [13:11] progers: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE) === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [13:12] ubottu: Thanks [13:12] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [13:12] ubottu: -_- [13:13] So thats guy is a bot? [13:13] !bot [13:13] Hi! I'm #ubuntu+1's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [13:13] progers: Yep [13:14] Ok i am just new with those irc channels did not know that there is bots too :) [13:15] progers: Only a couple of bots, ubottu for factoids, a logbot and an anti-paste bot in some channels, other than that, not many bots in the channels [13:16] DJones: thanks === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [13:28] i saw a few posts about Mate going into the default Ubuntu repos, but how do I get it to work? [13:28] I didn't see any packages containing mate-session [13:29] this is on a Tahr install that I'm playing with [13:46] maxb: back to your earlier question. I was incorrect. I *am* experiencing that same issue on my work machine. [13:46] mamarley: I didn't get that machine for the video power. I got it for the expandibility. I have 32GB of RAM in that laptop, and *3* SSDs. [13:47] SuperLag: Yeah, but you will also get better battery life with the blob. [13:47] mamarley: you think? [13:47] Have you tried installing nvidia-331? It should work just fine. [13:47] I know. [13:48] Nouveau doesn't support any kind of power scaling yet. [13:48] mamarley: not since 13.04. And the last time I messed with the Nvidia blob, it was a fucking nightmare. [13:48] and that's putting it mildly [13:48] What kind of problems occurred? [13:49] no X. [13:49] And you installed using the Ubuntu package? [13:49] yes [13:49] Hmm, that's odd. I still think you should try it again though. [13:50] that was another lesson I learned along the way... don't *ever* do it from the plain installer you get from nvidia.com [13:50] I have a similar system (Thinkpad T530) and it worked out-of-the-box here. [13:50] That's definitely true. Ubuntu (and probably Debian too) do some screwy stuff with GL libs, and nvidia's .run installer can't handle that very well. [13:50] mamarley: if the Intel driver would work on anything other than the VGA output, I'd just use it. [13:51] Oh, that's another thing. Do you have Optimus disabled in the BIOS? [13:51] yes [13:51] OK, that's what I do too. [13:51] I don't do the switching. [13:51] I tell it to use the Discrete card. [13:52] I would recommend giving nvidia-331 another shot. If it breaks X, you can always remove it again and it should go back to Nouveau without any trouble. [13:53] mamarley: that wasn't always so cut & dry either. [13:53] (going back to nouveau) [13:53] But you should save the dmesg log and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log for postmortem examination. [13:53] So maybe somebody can figure out why it doesn't work. [13:54] mamarley: one of the issues, I'm sure, was that the then-current Nvidia driver didn't want to play nice with VMware. And as I use that *daily*, I didn't have time/desire/patience to drill down and figure out what was the root cause of the issue. [13:55] * mamarley doesn't know anything about vmware, sorry. === jack_ is now known as jack [14:10] one of the reasons I got a beefy laptop with LOTS of RAM.... I'm running a minimum of 4 VMs at any given time. :) [14:10] I was looking for one that could do 64GB of RAM... but no dice. Yet. [14:15] It just seems a shame to neuter such a powerful system by running a driver that won't let you take advantage of the GPU. [14:20] hi, I am using nvidia driver. I remembered xorg.conf is not required before. the configuration can be detected and setup at runtime somehow. but today, when I remove xorg.conf, it just doesn't work. why? is xorg.conf required in trusty? thanks. === jack is now known as Guest44199 [14:29] mamarley: no neutering, really... nothing I do even requires anything more powerful than the Intel. It's all Java, and a web browser. So the CPU, RAM and storage for the VMs are more than adequate. === Guest44199 is now known as jack [14:56] Interesting. Just updated my work machine, and now none of my VMs think there is enough swap. [15:03] Is there any difference beetween the kde compositing type with opengl 2.0 or opengl3.1? [15:05] progers, i haven't seen much diff , perhaps 2.0 is somewhat more stable with fewer effects , but I haven't seen much diff [15:06] Ok will keep it at 2.0 but my video card is powerfull so i think it can handle the opengl3.1 [15:13] hi : has anyone an idea how to fix a trusty install from live-system (succesful until 2nd reboot ) that was booted live to test and install by using forcepae on a pentium mobile [15:14] even the recovery option from grub hangs with a 20 to 25secs timeout of the cpu [15:14] all went well first boot live and flawlessly on 2nd boot into the installed system [15:14] forcepae is set in grub [15:24] anybody experiencing system/gui blocked for couple of seconds and then everything works normally in 14.04/dev? intel hw/mb air === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [16:19] hello [16:47] I made the horrible mistake of opening the ubuntu one application, now it's worse than spyware I just can't get it to stop running [16:51] of course its spyware m( [16:51] did you try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda yet? [16:53] BLZbubba, no I did try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=8m though [16:54] trading one problem for a different one :P [16:54] jokes aside it should just stop autostarting when I tell him to not sync automatically, or when I remove my computer as a ubuntu one device [16:56] apparently it looks for the ubuntu-one folder in $HOME, once that's gone it stops autostarting [17:00] how do you define "it" [17:00] you mean the unity wm always wants to run it? [17:03] BLZbubba, I mean the daemon stops being autostarted, I don't know what starts it since it's not a upstart daemon I guess it's unity yes === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [17:13] couple of unrelated issues: hotcorners randomly stop working, launcher autohide randomly leaves a ghost [17:25] yo guy [17:25] s* [17:25] Im testing new kubuntu 14.04 beta, and I would like to test it on laptop with efi and ssd + hdd [17:25] but I have no idea how to prepare partitions, there is efi boot partition, wtf? [17:26] how to properly set up those things? [17:26] where set up which mount point? === alex_ is now known as Alex_ [17:33] cojack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition [17:33] Alex_: won't help [17:34] cojack: so what is your question then? [17:34] cojack: I thought you don't know what if efi partition ;) [17:35] Alex_: the question is [17:36] how to prepare partitions with ssd + hdd with efi, where efi partition should be, on ssd or hdd? Where install grub on ssd or hdd, where set up /boot on ssd or hdd? [18:17] uhm [18:18] modify /etc/default/grub no effect [18:18] yes, yes I do after this sudo update-grub [18:28] /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober override settings [18:28] if you set up grub to hide menu [18:30] set timeout_style=menu, this override setting from /etc/default/grub [19:04] hello everyone, I have a problem when I logon onto xubuntu 14.04LTS pre-release, I was sent over here by one of their devel nicks. My cursor has been 'freezing/locking up' on me when I whjen i'm at the little password window at start-up I have tried many things and most have failed, i end up doing a hard shtudown to reboot, can someone help me here, please. [19:05] besides my spelling, lol [19:22] just curious if any of you might be able to help me? [19:23] Try gentoo, it has less bugs :) [19:24] hahaha not the answer I'm looking for [19:25] Progers___: one would hope that Gentoo has fewer bugs than a pre-release development version of Ubuntu :P [19:25] :D [19:25] this might be true but gentoo is not my bag at the moment [19:26] and why are you pressing gentoo when you're on a ubuntu page? [19:26] coming up on beta freeze [19:27] I'm truly asking for help and don't need the funny stuff [19:27] lots of activity in repos today [19:27] I love it! [19:28] starrats: Because i am not using gentoo at this moment :) [19:28] (I think in general, joking around in a support channel with people trying to get help is a dicey way to do things. Tends to cause unhappiness.) [19:30] true that [19:31] thank you rww I'm frustrated as hell, all was going 'smooth as silk for days and the last two have been bad for me the start=up window aka password window my cursor locks up/freezes and i have to do a hard shutdown on my comp, not good! [19:31] If no one is answering then 1- the person who know the answer is sleeping 2- he is watching a tv [19:31] ok that makes more sense than go try gentoo [19:31] But gentoo is good too:) [19:32] ... [19:33] i'm just downloading bodhilinux-3.0-alpha.iso [19:33] jack: based on ubuntu? [19:33] let's see how cool this ubuntu-clone is :) [19:33] yep [19:34] 3.0 is based on trusty [19:34] LInuxMInt is cool [19:34] i know [19:34] tried it already [19:34] freebsd cool too [19:35] different though :) [19:35] i love dpkg+apt [19:35] and portage [19:35] = gentoo [19:35] :) [19:36] jack: What do u use now? [19:42] Progers___, ubuntu saucy [19:43] just upgrading to trusty [19:43] jack: Oh i am using Kubuntu 14.04 [19:44] nice [19:44] any drawbacks? [19:45] jack: Sorry i cant understand all the english, but you mean errors or bugs? [19:45] anything like that, yeah [19:46] jack: There was some bugs with kde, but i saw this bug just 1 time [19:46] oh, you're from .ru [19:47] sorry... [19:47] I have kde 4.12.95 yasterday it was 4.12.90 [19:47] yeah, lots of updates atm [19:47] Hate unity :D [19:48] Stable unity has more bugs than pre-release KDE :) [19:48] hehe [19:48] might be true :P [19:49] I still must learn more commands to better use Linux, gentoo helped me with that, but i need more :D [19:51] as long as you know cat+man, you're good to go [19:51] :) [19:52] dmesg can be helpful too [19:52] Yes [19:52] But i consentrate more at programming now [19:53] c? cpp? [19:53] C++ [19:53] cpp [19:53] qt and C++ [19:54] nice [19:55] jack: Do u programm? [19:57] Progers___, i did [19:57] long ago [19:58] jack: Programming on linux is good? So i used to programm at windows all the time [19:58] linux is lots better :P [19:59] jack: Emacs or Vim [20:00] if i need to choose: vim [20:00] jack: Hehe i am using emacs right now :D so i can play tetris :D [20:00] :P [20:06] jack: Do u know how to connect gimp forms to one form? === jack is now known as Guest44217 [20:53] maybe now there will be someone that can answer me on my problem about a logon problem I am having with xubuntu 14.04 (trusty Tahr), problem is as follows; When i turn on my laptop and go to the xubuntu screen and then it goes to the logon screen where my password is to be used to logon on the cursor/pointer freezes/locks up on me and nothing works to unfreeze the cursor other than a hard shutdown, not good and i don't like doing it. [20:53] So is there anyone here that can give me a solution to this problem I'm having. [20:54] SorenHolm: It's currently not running... But I supose one. PA refuses to start another if one is already running. [20:56] lordievader: Not anymore - try firering up the latest cdimage in virtualbox or something. [20:57] If I finish reading these sheets I'll fire up my netboot. [21:14] SorenHolm: Hehe, you're right, here are also two instances of PA. Strange. [21:14] Hehe, killing it didn't do much good, now there are four. [21:14] soundcard not working on MacBookAir5,2 after i've upgraded to 14.04/dev. any suggestions? [21:14] lordievader: It started happening around a week ago. Problably the same time the kde 4.13 upgrade began. [21:15] lordievader: rm /etc/xdg/autostart/puleaudio* does not help. [21:16] SorenHolm: Have you checked if Ubuntu shows the same behaviour by any chance? [21:17] lordievader: no - but that might be a good test. [21:20] SorenHolm: Disabling the autospawn and manually starting PA only creates one instance. [21:20] Then trying to create another fails with PA complaining that "Daemon already running" [21:21] SorenHolm: I suppose you reported bug 1296425 [21:21] bug 1296425 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio is started twice - effectively making device management impossible." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296425 [21:22] lordievader: correct. That's me. [21:22] Now it's confirmed ;) [21:22] lordievader: thanks :D === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away