[00:11] infinity: *groan, apology* === gerald is now known as Guest78267 === zequence_ is now known as zequence === gerald is now known as Guest36823 === soren_ is now known as soren === [BNC]alphacrypt is now known as alphacrypt === ayan_ is now known as ayan === pkern_ is now known as pkern === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [13:56] Do we build kernels for the arm64 architecture ? [13:57] yes [13:59] caribou_, x-gene SOC and the arm64 simulator. see dannf for more info === caribou_ is now known as caribou [13:59] rtg: ok, thanks [14:39] bjf, ppisati: FYI, I added a couple of simple tests for bug 1295948 to QRT. This might fail for older releases on arm; if it does, please let me know, and I'll special case those. [14:39] Launchpad bug 1295948 in linux-manta (Ubuntu Trusty) "mako kernel doesn't support xattrs in the security namespace" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295948 [14:42] sbeattie, I uploaded fixes for that yesterday. Do the tests succeed now ? [14:44] rtg: I don't have access to a mako or manta device, and the people who do aren't online yet; I'll recheck with them later this morning. [14:44] sbeattie, k, thanks === hatch__ is now known as hatch [15:04] sbeattie, which kernel test set are these new tests part of ? kernel-security ? [15:07] Good afternoon, I was wondering if the Saucy kernel support the tickless timer. [15:16] bjf: yes, kernel-security === gerald is now known as Guest68814 === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [17:02] apw, hmm, I don't think 3.13.7 was built for powerpc unless its some cruft that we've added. [17:04] maybe its just missing an include === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away [17:06] rtg, yeah not build tested it on anything other than x86 yet [17:07] we do have a fair bit of tat on the top sadly === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [17:18] QUESTION: Can't boot on freshly installed 12.04.4 64bit. Got multiple CPU soft lockup messages. Could someone point me how to boot in verbose/debug mode to figure out what's going on? [17:33] <\sh> guys, what's the right way to adjust some config settings in the ubuntu linux source pkg, besides adjusting debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu ... especially the part how to produce the source package for it... [17:36] vlad_starkov, you want to remove the "quiet spash" options from the boot command line [17:36] bjf: I have 12.04.4 64Bit Server [17:43] bjf: where can I get full list of kernel boot parameters that my system support? This link https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt does not contain some of them. For example in this article https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot says about "debug=vc" param. Another example is "nomodeset" param that Ubuntu supports but which is not included in the kernel-parameters.txt. [17:44] vlad_starkov, i don't know of a complete list [17:45] bjf: Ok [18:03] apw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7147434/ test case [18:07] \sh: ah, so I'm not the only one trying to figure out how the linux package spaghetti works? :) [18:09] <\sh> JanC, nope...I found this: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/how-to-compile-a-new-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-kernel/ but somehow this is not true anymore, it bails out with a lot of 'no permissions' error, because scripts are not 755 at least [18:10] \sh: you have to chmod some scripts [18:10] \sh what exactly are you trying to do? [18:11] "chmod a+x" on "debian/scripts/*" & "debian/scripts/misc/*" [18:11] <\sh> bjf, I need to find a good and easy way, to add some kernel config settings into the ubuntu kernel source package (linux ;)) and then something like 'debuild -S -sa' and feeding it into sbuild but the usual way of rebuilding source packages is not true for the linux kernel package [18:12] <\sh> JanC, well, yes, but it feels broken^Wwrong? ;) [18:12] but it's documented: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel [18:12] <\sh> bjf, so changing debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu is first step. [18:12] (not much else about it is documented) [18:14] <\sh> JanC, agreed...I'll try...but building the un-changed linux debian source tree from ubuntu results in i.e. empty linux-source-_ package [18:14] \sh do you care abuot hte linux-source pacakge ? [18:14] <\sh> means: dget linux*.dsc from launchpad, and just sbuild -A -d *.dsc [18:14] <\sh> apw, not really, but I want the same binary packages when I build from source. [18:15] and most likely that is because the packaging eliminates the things you arn't likely to need if you arn't on a real builld [18:15] \sh so you need to set full_build=true to avoid those smarts [18:15] <\sh> apw, I have my sbuild with buildd variant ... and where do I set full_build=true? [18:16] <\sh> injecting to sbuild? [18:16] \sh not sure, never have wanted to [18:16] build the debug, src etc packages when building for myself [18:17] you could also add "/CurrentlyBuilding" with "Build-Debug-Symbols: yes" in it to your chrrot, which better simulates what a real buildd has in its environemnt [18:17] but expect the build to take a heck of a lot longer [18:20] \sh, you can probabally do that via a --pre-build-command or something [18:33] <\sh> well actually I just need to add CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE = y and CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE_PRECLAIM=y and CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME=y set because this is missing for my project in our ubuntu generic kernel...and yes I know it seems deprecated, but I need it :) [18:43] \sh: Those are more than deprecated, they actively break some bits of userspace, which is why we have them disabled. [18:44] cirtainly you'll need to futz with pulseaudio to make it not collide majorly with oss [18:44] I thought there was some weird userspace oss emulation availble [18:44] antarus: There is, and it doesn't work if you have CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE_PRECLAIM=y [18:44] <\sh> infinity, well, I don't need the kernel for a 'desktop' usecase...it's a particular piece of HW I need to support, and it's only running on those :) and if we can do that with gentoo, I am sure I am able to produce a nice ubuntu/debian package with this ;) [18:45] <\sh> apw, no pulseaudio involved on this hardware [18:45] geez, think of lennart ! [18:45] Heh. [18:46] well clearly it is being done wrong, if you don't need systemd-pulseaudio [18:46] <\sh> ogra_, I am in berlin now, so I can complain personally ;) [18:46] heh [18:46] * apw thinks about stopping using systemd-his-keyboard pretty soon [18:47] * ogra_ waits for systemd-bash [18:47] if you think you need shell access ... sigh [18:47] <\sh> ogra_, and I didn't like the decision which we announced...but that's just eventually me [18:47] I suspect Kai and Lennart won't be able to absorb any FSF projects, so we're safe there. [18:47] ogra_: systemd-dash [18:47] (But they might NIH a new libc and POSIX shell instead!) [18:47] antarus, oh, right, we're ubuntu :P [18:48] infinity: we have some hardware that has no X, but uses OSS emulation to provide beeps to the operator [18:48] its pretty classy stuff [18:48] but systemd-dash wont need a binary compiled ~/.bashrc [18:48] antarus: Anything that beeps is okay in my book. [18:48] .bashrc.c [18:48] I'm liking where this is headed [18:49] * infinity heads out for systemd-breakfast. [18:49] <\sh> ogra_, systemd-dash needs a byte-compiled .dashrc written hacklang (http://hacklang.org/) ;) [18:50] \sh: too far sir, too far [18:50] <\sh> it's from facebook...so it must be good ;) [18:50] \sh, nah. in german please ... http://esolangs.org/wiki/German [18:52] <\sh> ogra_, oh man...I just had a schnitzel today and now a beer...so, if ( schnitzel & beer)== beerschnitzel then result = bretzel? [18:52] Plankalkül? [18:52] ++ [18:53] <\sh> looks like my 8 core workstation has some fun...when I see 8 cores piling up to 50% cpu time...I think 3 kernel compiles at a time is no good [18:54] you still have 50% left then [18:54] not that bad ... [18:54] that hello world example is pretty stupid, at least they could have taken the time to write a story in German containing those words :p [18:54] <\sh> anyone wants to work for BMW ? just got an offer from a headhunter... [18:55] is that in germany? [18:55] doe they pay in schitzel and beer ? [18:55] <\sh> I hope in hard Europ [18:55] <\sh> well EUR ;) [18:55] <\sh> antarus, germany yes [18:56] I suppose knowing german is a requirement [18:56] so I'm out ;p [18:56] nah, thats in bavaria [18:56] they dont know german either [18:56] touche [18:56] I lived in munich for 6 months and still didn't learn [18:56] * antarus is a terrible person [18:56] <\sh> antarus, I am working in an office in germany where german is not pre-requisite, english is much better [18:57] I'm pretty sure English is okay in such an international company [18:57] or probably even a requirement [18:57] <\sh> and no private life...for sure, while working with the SoCal guys...I feel Jonos pain every day [18:58] private life is overrated, it only only has the risk in it that you get spyed on by NSA ... [18:59] <\sh> ogra_, hope I see you at linuxtag 2014 here in berlin :) [18:59] i'll try my best [18:59] i need to come over anyway ... but my cars are all down atm [19:01] <\sh> ogra_, there is still the train ;) but cool...we can have some nice dinner and drinks with dholbach ;) [19:01] yep [19:06] <\sh> time to head home...tomorrow I have flat inspection...hopefully I have the flat rented from next week on :) [19:06] <\sh> thanks for the help btw === hatch__ is now known as hatch [20:06] rtg, i've pushed the daemon cleanup for the hv-kvp stuff, plus the meta change ... [20:07] apw, ack. [20:08] apw, I suppose I should upload this pile tonight. [20:09] rtg, arn't we past the freeze now [20:09] ie it'll have to wait till fri or so [20:09] they'll just hold it for a couple days [20:09] yeah there is that i guess indeed [20:09] maybe I'll finish up the config changes first === FreezingAlt is now known as FreezingCold === hatch__ is now known as hatch === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away