[11:37] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:08] <rick_h_> morning
[13:08] <rick_h_> from lovely howell heh
[13:09] <cmaloney> Heh
[13:09] <cmaloney> How was the morning commute? :)
[13:09] <rick_h_> ugh, hour long
[13:09] <cmaloney> Yeah, I can imagine
[13:09] <cmaloney> Sounds like my commute from Belleville to Auburn Hills
[13:09] <rick_h_> but place seems nice, 13/6 internet, right on main street.
[13:09] <cmaloney> No quick way.
[13:09] <cmaloney> Oh, coffee shop?
[13:09] <rick_h_> yea, just hop on M59 and keep on going and going
[13:09] <rick_h_> no, coworking space
[13:10] <cmaloney> Ah, cool
[13:10] <rick_h_> didn't think we could work a full day with calls/etc in a coffee shop
[13:10] <cmaloney> yeah, that would be too tough
[13:12] <brousch> What's this?
[13:13] <rick_h_> heh cool that bookie almost got as many apps as phpmyadmin http://blog.cihar.com/archives/2014/03/24/gsoc-2014-applications-phpmyadmin/
[13:13] <rick_h_> brousch: so when we start a new person we do an intro sprint. Work for a week together
[13:13] <rick_h_> brousch: so I'm meeting up with kyle in a coworking space in howell this week
[13:13] <rick_h_> gmaps said 45min each way for each of us, more like 55 for me
[13:13] <rick_h_> and he's not here yet so I'll assume more for him as well
[13:14] <brousch> That doesn't sound right. GR is 45 minutes from Muskegon
[13:14] <cmaloney> Yeah, I think that's "45 minutes as the crow flies" and not "45 minutes in rush-hour"
[13:15] <brousch> I would put Howell at 2 hours from Muskegon
[13:15] <cmaloney> I would put Howell as "we'll get there eventually"
[13:16] <cmaloney> much like the rest of anything past Wixom. :)
[13:16] <brousch> Depending on when he hit GR, it could add another 15 minutes
[13:16] <rick_h_> lol
[13:17] <brousch> Yes, bad rush hour in GR adds 15 minutes to your commute
[13:18] <brousch> Of course it's possible he's not at home right now, but staying in Lansing or something
[14:29] <Havenstance> It depends on the way you go to Muskegon from GR though
[14:29] <Havenstance> I've had travel times from Muskegon to GR take upwards of 2 hours
[14:30] <Havenstance> obviously there were traffic delays but it happens
[14:30] <brousch> Well yeah, I'm assuming he takes I-96 and not back roads
[14:30] <Havenstance> Yeah I've had it happen on I-96, semi crashed & they had the whole road blocked
[14:30] <Havenstance> isolated incident not like it happens every single day
[14:31] <Havenstance> Most likely I'd blame it on the traffic though. Its usually 45mins to an hour from GR to Muskegon I used to frequent that drive till I moved to Traverse City
[14:32] <brousch> Havenstance: Yeah, I just found it odd that they would pick Howell as a center point, since it's 45 mins to GR, then 1:00 to Lansing, then 15 mins to Howell
[14:33] <Havenstance> Yeah, I don't think I've ever went from Muskegon to Howell though
[14:33] <brousch> PRobably Kyle just being a nice guy
[14:33] <brousch> Or Canonical reimbursing mileage so really racking up that bill
[14:34] <Havenstance> lol, that could be an option too
[14:36] <brousch> http://www.meetways.com/halfway-point-between-muskegon-mi-usa-and-clarkston-mi-48346-usa-poi-restaurant-ahw-0-atl-0-tmd-driving.html
[14:36] <brousch> Actually west of Lansing
[14:37] <Havenstance> yeah that's quite a hike though from troy to muskegon
[14:37] <brousch> That site shows the half way point and points of interest near there
[14:38] <Havenstance> that's pretty sweet
[14:38] <Havenstance> I'll have to bookmark that for future reference
[14:39] <Havenstance> I remember the last time I was in Muskegon. They had a DeTour down that road that walmart is on, they ran you down Broadway around it basically right through the heights.
[14:40] <Havenstance> I'd have to see the road sign to know what road that is you get off the freeway and go to the left to get to walmart this way
[14:40] <brousch> Did they hand out bullet proof glass?
[14:40] <Havenstance> Hell no lol
[14:40] <Havenstance> I wasn't too worried about it though. For the most part if you treat the people down there good they do the same in return
[14:40] <brousch> My wife is from Muskegon, so I get a punch in the arm every time I talk like that
[14:41] <Havenstance> Hell now a days you got whites hanging around with blacks and vise versa so its not near as bad as it was in the 80s and 90s
[14:42] <Havenstance> Didn't bother me going that way but my then girlfriend was so scared she was basically hiding on the floor board of the car
[14:42] <Havenstance> I got quite a kick out of it :)
[14:43] <Havenstance> She goes my dad always said white people don't go to Muskegon Heights
[14:43] <Havenstance> I was like yeah that might have been when he was a kid but now you won't have too much of a problem i f your respectful and understand that YOU are the minority there
[16:32] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[17:13] <brousch> cmaloney: +1
[17:13] <rick_h_> -1
[17:13] <rick_h_> where did the day go so far?
[17:15] <brousch> rick_h_: Time moves faster in Howell
[17:15] <rick_h_> heh, something
[17:18] <greg-g> speaking of Howell, we were looking for random weird linux distros for a coworker to install on a build machine, and along side Hannah Montana linux was the White Supremacist linux :/
[17:22] <cmaloney> There's also Linux Satanic which apparently links to Open Metalcast
[17:22] <cmaloney> I'm sure all of my religious instructors are so proud
[17:24] <cmaloney> Which is part of the reason my alumni associations get the terse phrase "Works with Computers"
[17:24] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:26] <cmaloney> http://decafbad.net/2013/12/11/still/
[17:35] <cmaloney> Also: frustrating when I have a band on my HDD that is amazing yet: 1) Not CC licensed and 2) Apparently was self-released
[17:36] <cmaloney> (Sleep of Thetis in case you want to play along at home)
[18:26] <cmaloney> You can tell when rick_h_ is working
[18:28] <rick_h_> sssshhhh
[18:29] <cmaloney> Exactly. You can hear a pin drop in here.
[18:51] <cmaloney> after playing with Ruby I have a renewed appreciation for the masterstroke that is Python's Virtualenvs
[18:53] <rick_h_> there are times I shake my head at python, but I get headaches from shaking at ruby
[18:54] <cmaloney> I just created a wrapper for uwsgi in rvm
[18:55] <cmaloney> It's two commands where my brain would say $path_to_venv/bin/python foo
[18:56] <cmaloney> It just creates this monolothic structure that, while complete, feels as though it were cobbled together by folks who looked at Virtualenv and decided to make a one-stop-shopping experience.
[18:56] <cmaloney> and in the end made something more akin to Walmart than Meijer.