| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 06:33 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 06:33 |
| Kilos | hi jabberwocky93 Spekko | 06:35 |
| Kilos | Squirm, you here? | 06:37 |
| Spekko | morning Kilos | 06:38 |
| Squirm | hey | 06:38 |
| Kilos | i need some info please Squirm , i lost QA and dunno how to restart her if i cant see her | 06:39 |
| Kilos | when you have time is fine | 06:40 |
| Kilos | she is running but forgot to join my channel | 06:41 |
| Kilos | stupid cow | 06:41 |
| Trixar_za | Hi Kilos | 06:41 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 06:44 |
| Kilos | QA, wb | 06:52 |
| QA | Ya ya man I'm not the one disconnecting or crashing the pc | 06:52 |
| jabberwocky93 | morning Kilos | 06:58 |
| jabberwocky93 | o/ all | 06:59 |
| Kilos | QA, coffee on | 07:05 |
| * QA puts the kettle on | 07:05 | |
| QA | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 07:09 |
| Kilos | QA, ty | 07:10 |
| QA | You're welcome Kilos | 07:10 |
| Kilos | hi georgl your bot is missing | 07:23 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 08:05 |
| magespawn | good day | 09:21 |
| Kilos | hi there magespawn | 09:21 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos, whats up/ | 09:23 |
| Kilos | smae old. just different day | 09:23 |
| Kilos | and you? | 09:23 |
| Kilos | s/smae/same | 09:23 |
| Kilos | oh and no maaz and meeting tomorrow night | 09:25 |
| Kilos | inetpro, fix it | 09:25 |
| * Kilos waits for ai! | 09:26 | |
| Kilos | superfly, have you any follow up to your internet quiz thing? | 09:26 |
| magespawn | same old, same old here too | 09:29 |
| superfly | no | 09:41 |
| superfly | I just wanted to see what everyone thought | 09:41 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:41 |
| Kilos | have you no ideas about what we can do to improve the situation? | 09:42 |
| Squirm | QA: coffee please | 10:09 |
| QA | Squirm: There isn't a pot on | 10:09 |
| Squirm | QA: coffee on | 10:09 |
| * QA puts the kettle on | 10:09 | |
| Squirm | QA: coffee please | 10:09 |
| QA | Squirm: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses | 10:09 |
| Squirm | QA: coffee please | 10:09 |
| QA | Squirm: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses | 10:09 |
| Squirm | QA: largest | 10:09 |
| QA | Squirm: Excuse me? | 10:09 |
| Squirm | QA: larger | 10:09 |
| QA | Squirm: *blink* | 10:09 |
| Squirm | QA: large | 10:09 |
| QA | I'll make a jug full Squirm and you can topup at will, how's that? | 10:09 |
| Squirm | ^^ | 10:09 |
| QA | Coffee's ready for Squirm! | 10:13 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 10:35 |
| Kilos | lol she hasnt been taught yet | 10:35 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 10:37 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos hows life treating you today | 10:39 |
| Vince-0 | skaaps being good?? | 10:39 |
| Vince-0 | flippen power outages at the office here making my life nice | 10:39 |
| Kilos | yeah digging trenches on and off | 10:39 |
| Kilos | power is a prob in za | 10:39 |
| magespawn | i ssh into two different hosts, on two different networks, but they have the same local ip address which creates a problem with the rsa key in the known hosts file | 10:54 |
| magespawn | what is the best way to solve this problem? | 10:54 |
| Kilos | change one hosts ip | 10:55 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:55 |
| magespawn | and then redo the entire phone setup, not if it can avoided | 10:55 |
| Kilos | uoch | 10:55 |
| Kilos | ouch as well | 10:55 |
| magespawn | and to make things more interesting it is a virtual centos system on a windows 7 computer | 10:57 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 10:57 |
| Kilos | what happens if you add /24 i think it was to one of the ip's | 10:57 |
| magespawn | and there is a Grandstream GXP4104 on the network too | 10:58 |
| Kilos | what is that? | 10:58 |
| magespawn | IP analog gateway | 11:02 |
| Kilos | doesnt adding /24 make it use the whole range | 11:03 |
| magespawn | a device that takes the physical connection from telom/phone company and put it onto your VoIP network. | 11:03 |
| Kilos | been a while since i worried about ip's | 11:03 |
| magespawn | s/telom/telkom | 11:04 |
| magespawn | i can just remove the old key and then ssh and the new key is added automagically, but since i use both machines regularly i would need to this constantly | 11:08 |
| magespawn | what would happen if i ssh into them using the host name defined in /etc/hosts? i would have to manually define them and i would end up with two host name using the same address | 11:13 |
| magespawn | time for coffee | 11:14 |
| magespawn | QA coffee please | 11:14 |
| QA | magespawn: There isn't a pot on | 11:14 |
| magespawn | QA coffee on | 11:14 |
| * QA washes some mugs | 11:14 | |
| magespawn | QA large | 11:14 |
| QA | I'll make a jug full magespawn and you can topup at will, how's that? | 11:14 |
| magespawn | QA fine thank you | 11:14 |
| QA | sure thing, magespawn | 11:14 |
| * magespawn goes to get non digital coffee | 11:14 | |
| QA | Coffee's ready for magespawn! | 11:18 |
| magespawn | ty QA | 11:24 |
| magespawn | QA ty | 11:24 |
| QA | You're welcome magespawn | 11:24 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:32 |
| Kilos | you need to get more clever magespawn so we can teach her to braai for us as well | 11:32 |
| magespawn | indeed | 11:33 |
| liamT | greetings everyone | 11:34 |
| Kilos | hi liamT | 11:34 |
| magespawn | hi liamT | 11:35 |
| Kilos | no maaz and meeting tonight at 20.30 | 11:36 |
| Kilos | sorry tomorrow night | 11:36 |
| magespawn | maybe he will be back by then | 11:40 |
| magespawn | he/she/it | 11:40 |
| Kilos | we gotta rev the pro to rev the crash kid | 11:40 |
| Kilos | eish magespawn no one even gives you a clue what to do there | 11:51 |
| Kilos | i wonder what happens if you add A or B to and ip | 11:51 |
| magespawn | ipv4 only work with numbers 4 sets of 3 | 11:53 |
| magespawn | like so xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where x = 0-9 | 11:53 |
| magespawn | \24 specifies the subnet which also works in the same number scheme | 11:54 |
| magespawn | \24 shows the number of bits used for the subnet mask | 11:55 |
| magespawn | so for example 192.168.1.1\24 is ip 192.168.1.1 subnet mask 255.255.255.0 | 11:57 |
| magespawn | sorry supposed to use / not \ | 11:58 |
| Kilos | too much time on windows that \ habbit | 11:58 |
| Kilos | habit | 11:58 |
| magespawn | brain exercise switching from one os to another, did a network wireless ap from a mac the other day | 11:59 |
| Kilos | ive never seen a mac so dunno what they are all about | 12:00 |
| magespawn | this also determines how many network points you can have on the network | 12:00 |
| magespawn | mac os is based on bsd a unix/linux varient | 12:01 |
| magespawn | variant | 12:01 |
| Kilos | cant be too bad then | 12:01 |
| magespawn | no relatively straight forward, different keys to do similar actions | 12:02 |
| Kilos | ah | 12:02 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid_ | 12:04 |
| psydroid_ | hi Kilos | 12:06 |
| Vince-0 | ! | 12:19 |
| Kilos | wb liamT | 12:28 |
| liamT | ah tnx | 12:33 |
| psydroid_ | hi Vince-0 | 12:33 |
| psydroid_ | hi liamT | 12:33 |
| magespawn | hi psydroid_ | 12:34 |
| magespawn | Kilos, mac has command key | 12:34 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:35 |
| psydroid_ | hi magespawn | 12:35 |
| magespawn | used for keyboard shortcuts | 12:38 |
| Kilos | like when we use compose key? | 12:38 |
| Trixar_za | Righto - that fixed the one issue I was having with Lubuntu | 13:17 |
| magespawn | Kilos similar, like alt and ctrl in win | 13:46 |
| magespawn | home time later all | 13:46 |
| Vince-0 | ! | 13:51 |
| Golynx | o/ | 13:51 |
| Kilos | wassup Trixar_za | 14:50 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx | 14:50 |
| Trixar_za | Just getting annoyed - how about you Kilos? | 14:56 |
| Kilos | im ok ty | 14:58 |
| Kilos | i didnt enjoy lubuntu or xubuntu | 14:58 |
| Kilos | wbb.. reboot time | 14:58 |
| Golynx | oh hi Kilos :) | 15:19 |
| === miles_ is now known as Kilos | ||
| Golynx | i can understand i dont like Lubuntu, but xubuntu ? hmm | 15:28 |
| Golynx | but technically i havn't used Xubuntu lol , only ubuntu with Xfce :) | 15:29 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah - trying to compile the latest usb_modeswitch | 15:30 |
| Trixar_za | but because of some stupid ass things in lubuntu, I can't seem to get it to work | 15:30 |
| Trixar_za | This has been reported to compile fine on Ubuntu 13.10 though, so it's probably something Lubuntu's dev broke | 15:31 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 15:35 |
| Golynx | Lubuntu is good for schools with old donated pc's | 15:37 |
| Golynx | hi kbmonkey | 15:38 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 15:42 |
| kbmonkey | meeting tonight folks! | 15:42 |
| Kilos | tomorrow night kbmonkey | 15:44 |
| Trixar_za | Eh, I might just go back to SliTaz | 15:45 |
| Trixar_za | This is a pain in the ass to fix | 15:45 |
| kbmonkey | gotcha Kilos, I see the google calendar reminder says it is tonight. | 15:45 |
| Golynx | aint the meeting always on a Tuesday night | 15:46 |
| Kilos | hmm... sue inetpro | 15:46 |
| kbmonkey | nah, the pro did not create this event, I will contact the creator | 15:48 |
| Trixar_za | Also: Lubuntu - takes about 1 hour to install | 15:48 |
| Kilos | dont you get the email from g+ | 15:48 |
| Trixar_za | SliTaz: 5 minutes | 15:48 |
| Golynx | i mean on the last Tuesday of every month | 15:48 |
| Kilos | i got one 2 days ago announcing the meet but didnt check what day | 15:48 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za why you using lubuntu anyway you were always a slitaz peep | 15:49 |
| Trixar_za | Wanted to create a build enviroment for sakis3g | 15:50 |
| Golynx | hmm you know there will be a meeting but dont know when lol | 15:50 |
| Trixar_za | Total fail with Lubuntu though >.> | 15:50 |
| Trixar_za | On the upside - Lubutu did come with most of the codecs you can ever need pre-installed | 15:50 |
| Golynx | Kilos: what did you not like about xubuntu | 15:51 |
| Golynx | a little screenshot of my xubuntu http://picpaste.com/scr-10bwtrfN.jpg | 15:52 |
| Kilos | i coundnt get sound working for starters | 15:52 |
| Kilos | and there were other little things | 15:52 |
| Golynx | i'm satisfied :) | 15:52 |
| Golynx | sound works perfect on mine though | 15:53 |
| Kilos | ya ive always had sound hassles | 15:53 |
| Golynx | i can even make complex sound effects and tone generations | 15:53 |
| Kilos | but with this new pc i expected everything to just work | 15:54 |
| Kilos | but now xchat hasnt got sound | 15:54 |
| Golynx | oh i see | 15:54 |
| Trixar_za | Kilos: Yeah like the scanlines resolution it kept defaulting to - it still does so if I press ctrl+alt+f1. Then there is the compiling issue and how a whole 3GB just disappeared into the ether. | 15:54 |
| Golynx | that sounds like a sound card software issue maybe | 15:54 |
| Kilos | eeeek | 15:55 |
| Trixar_za | While I like the interface - there is minor issues that make me hate it - the hexchat thing on the taskbar is also annoying | 15:55 |
| Kilos | ami Trixar_za i have the d-link working on three drives | 15:56 |
| Kilos | disable network in nm then use sakis3g to only switch modem then enable networking again and nm sees the dwm-156 | 15:57 |
| Kilos | but draisburgerfof okes say it works and dont answer posts | 15:57 |
| Trixar_za | Actually I like network manager | 15:58 |
| Kilos | so when is the new sakis available | 15:59 |
| Kilos | ya nm rocks | 15:59 |
| Trixar_za | works great with my cellphone when I plug it in with the usb cable | 15:59 |
| Trixar_za | Just click 8ta.default and it connects me | 15:59 |
| Trixar_za | Slight bitch with the 3g modem though, but sakis3g seems to still work for me | 15:59 |
| Kilos | ya but not with the new telkom modem | 15:59 |
| Kilos | sakis works here still but then evo and pidgin dont connect | 16:00 |
| Trixar_za | That's weird | 16:00 |
| Trixar_za | Oh right | 16:00 |
| Kilos | i want a sakis3g that dont go the APN_PASS stuff | 16:00 |
| Trixar_za | if I use sakis3g I can't use firefox until I turn off offline mode | 16:01 |
| Trixar_za | I disabled the 'helpful' lubuntu extension and that solved the problem... | 16:01 |
| Kilos | but anyway it looks to me like the telkom modem is missing something that triggers modeswitch | 16:01 |
| Kilos | i also tried using 2 modems and the old one trigger modeswitch then nm could see and connect with bot | 16:02 |
| Kilos | both | 16:02 |
| Trixar_za | I wonder if I'm missing a setting in sakis3g for telkom mobile | 16:04 |
| Trixar_za | Like the network code or something | 16:05 |
| Kilos | i got it connected with sakis | 16:06 |
| Kilos | sakis works | 16:06 |
| Kilos | only evo and pidgin and having to enter the APN_PASS and the other command is painful | 16:07 |
| Kilos | APN_USER | 16:07 |
| Trixar_za | Nope - they use the same code | 16:10 |
| Trixar_za | What happens if you change the proxy setting in pidgin from noproxy to system default? | 16:12 |
| Kilos | still dont connect | 16:12 |
| Trixar_za | Weird | 16:12 |
| Kilos | but nm works lekker so sakis is my backup like for a new install i can still get online for updating upgrading | 16:13 |
| Kilos | hi not_found | 16:18 |
| Kilos | the sound works on other things Golynx | 16:19 |
| Kilos | pidgin sound works fine but xchat dont | 16:19 |
| not_found | install mplayer and use that to play xchat sounds | 16:20 |
| not_found | hi uncle Kilos | 16:20 |
| Kilos | i have not_found | 16:20 |
| Kilos | sill no sound | 16:20 |
| Golynx | oh okay Kilos | 16:20 |
| Golynx | hi not_found | 16:21 |
| not_found | that is strange then | 16:21 |
| not_found | hi Golynx | 16:21 |
| Kilos | unless i use mplayer and point it too /usr/share/sounds/bell.ogg but them no bell.ogg just a heavy static noise like when tv signal dies | 16:21 |
| Kilos | but konversation sound works lekker | 16:22 |
| Golynx | hmm xchat sound not working in mine either | 16:23 |
| Kilos | you gotta go to settings alerts an tick the top 2 rows and next 2 rows the last 2 blocks | 16:24 |
| Kilos | preferences i think it be called | 16:25 |
| Golynx | mine only plays the custom sounds , not the default list | 16:25 |
| Kilos | you hear a bloep? | 16:25 |
| Kilos | bell.ogg | 16:26 |
| Kilos | Golynx | 16:26 |
| Golynx | nope, none of the default sounds play, only when i load custom sounds it works | 16:26 |
| Kilos | ai! it used to work so lekker | 16:27 |
| not_found | I have seen a number of people start to use hexchat instead of xchat | 16:27 |
| Kilos | i have same probs with hexchat | 16:28 |
| Golynx | but i never use xchat though | 16:28 |
| Kilos | xchat very lekker | 16:29 |
| Golynx | there may be other irc clients that will work | 16:29 |
| Kilos | still think its the best irc client when you get sound working | 16:29 |
| Golynx | Did you try the option - External sound playing program : ? | 16:31 |
| Kilos | yeah konversation works here but its an extra 230 meg space used on drive and takes long to show who is online | 16:31 |
| Kilos | yip | 16:31 |
| Kilos | that when i get the static noise instead of sound | 16:31 |
| Golynx | oh , maybe there is a player out there that will work | 16:32 |
| not_found | I always get static until I specify mplayer to be used as an external player | 16:32 |
| not_found | I would imagine one could even specify something like vlc | 16:32 |
| Kilos | only thing i dont like about konversation is that after disconnecting scroll backs go kinda gray | 16:33 |
| Kilos | so no highlighted nicks and so on. makes it hard to find things in scrollback | 16:34 |
| not_found | how about quassel? it is the default irc for kubuntu? | 16:35 |
| Kilos | i dont get sound with quassel running on unity | 16:37 |
| not_found | hmmm, perhaps install pavucontrol or run alsa-mixer and make sure all the relevant sound sliders are up | 16:39 |
| Kilos | ill try quassel on kde when i get to that drive again | 16:39 |
| Kilos | konversation lekker here atm | 16:40 |
| Kilos | and ctrl+r underlines | 16:40 |
| Kilos | so you know where you left off | 16:40 |
| not_found | most clients does that automatically if you aren't reading the specific channel it underlines (I know #ubuntu-za often doesn't which is strange however) | 16:43 |
| Kilos | ya but thats if you in some other app or channel here i can underline and leave this channel open | 16:45 |
| not_found | I guess | 16:49 |
| not_found | everyone has a work flow that works for them :) | 16:49 |
| Kilos | lol ya when im digging outside sometimes there is lots to catch up on | 16:50 |
| magespawn | good evening | 16:58 |
| not_found | o/ | 16:59 |
| Golynx | hi magespawn | 16:59 |
| Golynx | Maaz how was the holiday | 17:08 |
| Maaz | Golynx: I already know stuff about how | 17:08 |
| Golynx | hmm i guess not so good :/ | 17:08 |
| Kilos | ty cocooncrash | 17:11 |
| cocooncrash | Kilos: np | 17:11 |
| Kilos | all well cocooncrash ? | 17:11 |
| Kilos | you super busy there hey? | 17:12 |
| cocooncrash | Kilos: Well, but busy, yeah | 17:12 |
| not_found | tea time | 17:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz wb | 17:14 |
| Maaz | Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend | 17:14 |
| * Golynx wants coffee | 17:15 | |
| Golynx | hi cocooncrash | 17:15 |
| cocooncrash | Hi Golynx | 17:16 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 17:45 |
| Kilos | wb | 17:45 |
| Golynx | hey smile | 17:45 |
| smile | hi, thanks :D | 17:46 |
| smile | I'm feeling better now (36.5 degrees inside, much better ;) ) | 17:46 |
| Kilos | wow you in arabia? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | 36.5°c or f | 17:48 |
| smile | no, lol :p celsius | 17:48 |
| Kilos | thats hot | 17:48 |
| smile | inside => inside myself ;) | 17:48 |
| Kilos | oh you had some hot coffee | 17:48 |
| not_found | lol | 17:49 |
| Golynx | i always heard 37° was a normal human temp | 17:50 |
| Kilos | 36.8 to 37.2 is normal | 17:50 |
| Golynx | thats it Kilos | 17:50 |
| Golynx | so the body core should always hover in that ranges | 17:51 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:51 |
| Golynx | my toes are aching of the cold , so they wont need those kinda temps :) | 17:52 |
| Kilos | big cold front hitting the cape tonight and tomorrow | 17:54 |
| Golynx | thanks Kilos, i never watch the weather anymore, climate change mess up everything lol | 18:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:02 |
| Kilos | shepherds always watch the weather | 18:02 |
| Kilos | and farmers | 18:02 |
| Golynx | yeah thats true | 18:03 |
| not_found | also weathermen... they tend to also watch the weather... and talk about it... | 18:04 |
| Kilos | rofl | 18:08 |
| magespawn | good night all | 18:17 |
| not_found | night | 18:17 |
| smile | I had 37.5, but since the temperature measure was incorrect (wikipedia NL states that you under-measure with the method I did) i had to do +1 :p | 18:34 |
| smile | so actually I was at 38.5 degrees C :p | 18:34 |
| Kilos | ah running a fever | 18:42 |
| Kilos | you sick?? | 18:43 |
| Kilos | Maaz announce Don't forget tomorrow nights meeting here at 20.30 everyone | 18:51 |
| Maaz | Hear ye, hear ye! Don't forget tomorrow nights meeting here at 20.30 everyone | 18:51 |
| Kilos | night shift ThatGraemeGuy ? | 18:54 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 18:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah, i have to push a few buttons at 9, confirm with client nothing broke and then go sleep off this cold i got :-/ | 18:55 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:56 |
| Private_User | hey Kilos | 18:56 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight. dont forget tomorrow nights meeting please | 19:27 |
| smile | :) | 19:47 |
| Private_User | evening all | 22:27 |
| Private_User | or should I say morning :) | 22:27 |
| not_found | morning sounds about right Private_User :) | 22:28 |
| Private_User | hey not_found, hows it going | 22:29 |
| not_found | fine thanks and yourself? | 22:29 |
| Private_User | not too bad | 22:29 |
| not_found | good to hear :) | 22:29 |
| Private_User | still trying to figure out what else could be causing my internet connectivity issues on my vista machine and my lubuntu machine is still in pieces since I need to get some thermal paste to put it back together | 22:31 |
| not_found | sucks | 22:31 |
| Private_User | tried everything so far using anti spyware and malware software which they seem to have found an cleared. Connectivity seems to be better but still not 100% | 22:32 |
| not_found | if it was me I would nuke the windows install and re-install | 22:32 |
| Private_User | and its very random so not sure what else to check cause the service provider says all issues on their side resolved | 22:32 |
| Private_User | wish I could but I do not have a copy of it | 22:33 |
| not_found | oops | 22:33 |
| Private_User | I was thinking of just cleaning and installing ubuntu on this machine as well but not sure since I might need to work on windows in case I gets some work where a client requires it | 22:35 |
| Private_User | do you know if I install ubuntu on a Virtual PC will what ever is causing the internet issue on the host affect the virtual PC? | 22:36 |
| not_found | yup, the virtual machine is fully at the mercy of the host... | 22:36 |
| Private_User | :( | 22:36 |
| not_found | except if there was a specific application or something causing the issue on Windows, and if you then didn't run it obviously you won't have the issue | 22:37 |
| Private_User | ok let me try that and it also gives me another idea... | 22:38 |
| Private_User | if I boot the laptop using the live ubuntu image can I test using that? | 22:38 |
| Private_User | then I probably will be able to determine if it is my machine or the ISP | 22:39 |
| not_found | yes that can work | 22:39 |
| Private_User | great let me start with install the Virtual machine first, would you say ubuntu will work fine on this machine (Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.17GHz, 2GB RAM) or should I use Lubuntu? | 22:41 |
| not_found | ubuntu will work... give at least 1gb to the virtual machine | 22:42 |
| Private_User | ok cool thanks | 22:43 |
| Private_User | what about video memory? | 22:57 |
| not_found | the default should be fine... | 22:58 |
| not_found | I always bump it up to 128 | 22:58 |
| Private_User | thanks but the max I get is 128 | 22:59 |
| Private_User | and the default is currently 12MB | 23:00 |
| not_found | that is the max yes | 23:00 |
| Private_User | so if I change it will it affect the host? | 23:00 |
| not_found | default will work, 128 will also work ... and I can vouch for 128 :p | 23:00 |
| not_found | not really | 23:00 |
| Private_User | ok then I change it to 128 | 23:00 |
| Private_User | :D | 23:00 |
| not_found | afaik it uses conventional ram and not video ram | 23:00 |
| not_found | that is one of the reasons virtual machines suck for gaming | 23:01 |
| Private_User | ok then I will leave as defaukt for now and will change it later if need be | 23:02 |
| Private_User | *default | 23:02 |
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