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stochasticzequence_, are there any bug #'s or blueprints I should start to read first?00:42
OvenWerk1I don't think the 14.10 blue prints are up yet, but one of the things done was to separate trhe blueprints into cycle and long term.00:43
OvenWerk1Let me see if I can find them, I have been pretty inactive this cycle00:44
OvenWerk1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Blueprints gives an overview00:48
zequence_stochastic: check out the wiki wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio07:13
zequence_stochastic: There's a blueprints page there07:13
zequence_Ah, right, OvenWerk1 already linked it07:13
stochasticzequence_, how is the controls update coming?07:37
zequence_stochastic: I've been rewriting it from scratch07:38
stochasticThat's what I read.07:38
zequence_it's not finished yet. Haven't had the time07:39
stochasticI know the old version really wasn't doing much anymore.07:39
zequence_no. we need to SRU it. Should have been done a long time ago07:39
stochasticfair enough, we all get busy07:40
zequence_stochastic: have you had any experience with rt-kit?07:40
stochasticminimal07:40
zequence_I'm thinking if we could get jack working with that, it would probably be one of the better alternatives07:40
zequence_what other alternatives are there, that would be good for the future07:41
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* stochastic is just getting back into kernel stuff.07:43
stochasticLast time I loaded Ubuntu Studio it shipped a GNOME interface07:43
stochasticI'll take a look through where Controls is and what the current kernel you're shipping with is, and I'll let you know in a bit07:44
zequencestochastic: Well, if you'd like something to do, solving how to get rt privilege by just installing jackd on any Debian derived system would be a nice place to start07:45
zequencein any case, we can't use audio group07:45
stochasticno?  that's how we used to get it done07:46
zequenceif nothing els, we need to create a new one07:46
stochasticsecurity reasons?07:46
zequenceaudio group is used for other things too07:46
zequenceyeah07:46
stochasticfair enough07:46
zequenceDebian has users in audio group by default, but not Ubuntu07:46
zequenceUbuntu Studio does, for the first user07:46
stochasticSo the trigger to allow RT privilege will be the installation of jackd on the system?  for every user?07:47
stochastic*in an ideal setup?07:48
zequenceif we use groups, the ideal would be for the user to already be apart of the group (like, a group called "jack")07:49
zequencebut, I suppose with rt-kit, one could solve that in another way07:49
zequencealso, if we use groups, we should push for a change in both Debian and Ubuntu - which from what I hear, may be difficult, since they prefer not to introduce new groups. 07:50
zequencebut, still, not impossible07:50
zequencegoing to work - bbl07:51
stochasticcya07:51
zequencestochastic: We haven't really been using the blueprints this cycle so much, but they should contain some ideas08:45
zequencethe problem is really that we have too few developers for the blueprints to be much use08:50
stochasticzequence, I'm likely not going to be much use for implementing anything this cycle but I'll certainly help toward rt-kit implementation for next cycle if that's okay.  I'm off to bed for the night (Vancouver timezone).08:51
zequencestochastic: This cycle is all but done, so no problem08:52
stochasticYeah FF was long ago now.08:53
zequenceconsidering it's and LTS, it's a shame we haven't done more, but there's always a next one08:53
zequencestochastic: gn, and great to have you back (all though I wasn't around back then)08:54
zequencestochastic: also, if you happen to any jack coding, pulseaudio-module-jack might be in a need of a little optimizing. The main issue I think is just that it eats a lot of CPU.09:25
zequencenot as much now, as it's defaulting to two channels only09:25
zequenceubuntustudio-live is in the repos. Going to switch to it now10:21
OvenWerk1zequence: there is as of now no kernel in repos for 14.0415:05
OvenWerk1ISO build may take a while15:05
zequenceOvenWerk1: What do you mean, no kernel?16:14
zequenceOvenWerk1: Next ISO should build anytime now16:15
cubso beta2 is on the 27th. Is the iso prepared a few days before so we test it before the beta2 release?19:35
zequencecub: Testing of the Beta 2 should start anytime now. Today is Beta 2 freeze (or should have been)20:28
zequencenew ISOs are out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/20:29
zequenceI'll give it a try tomorrow20:29
zequenceWe should have the new slides, but not the background20:29

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