[00:42] zequence_, are there any bug #'s or blueprints I should start to read first? [00:43] I don't think the 14.10 blue prints are up yet, but one of the things done was to separate trhe blueprints into cycle and long term. [00:44] Let me see if I can find them, I have been pretty inactive this cycle [00:48] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Blueprints gives an overview [07:13] stochastic: check out the wiki wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio [07:13] stochastic: There's a blueprints page there [07:13] Ah, right, OvenWerk1 already linked it [07:37] zequence_, how is the controls update coming? [07:38] stochastic: I've been rewriting it from scratch [07:38] That's what I read. [07:39] it's not finished yet. Haven't had the time [07:39] I know the old version really wasn't doing much anymore. [07:39] no. we need to SRU it. Should have been done a long time ago [07:40] fair enough, we all get busy [07:40] stochastic: have you had any experience with rt-kit? [07:40] minimal [07:40] I'm thinking if we could get jack working with that, it would probably be one of the better alternatives [07:41] what other alternatives are there, that would be good for the future === zequence_ is now known as zequence [07:43] * stochastic is just getting back into kernel stuff. [07:43] Last time I loaded Ubuntu Studio it shipped a GNOME interface [07:44] I'll take a look through where Controls is and what the current kernel you're shipping with is, and I'll let you know in a bit [07:45] stochastic: Well, if you'd like something to do, solving how to get rt privilege by just installing jackd on any Debian derived system would be a nice place to start [07:45] in any case, we can't use audio group [07:46] no? that's how we used to get it done [07:46] if nothing els, we need to create a new one [07:46] security reasons? [07:46] audio group is used for other things too [07:46] yeah [07:46] fair enough [07:46] Debian has users in audio group by default, but not Ubuntu [07:46] Ubuntu Studio does, for the first user [07:47] So the trigger to allow RT privilege will be the installation of jackd on the system? for every user? [07:48] *in an ideal setup? [07:49] if we use groups, the ideal would be for the user to already be apart of the group (like, a group called "jack") [07:49] but, I suppose with rt-kit, one could solve that in another way [07:50] also, if we use groups, we should push for a change in both Debian and Ubuntu - which from what I hear, may be difficult, since they prefer not to introduce new groups. [07:50] but, still, not impossible [07:51] going to work - bbl [07:51] cya [08:45] stochastic: We haven't really been using the blueprints this cycle so much, but they should contain some ideas [08:50] the problem is really that we have too few developers for the blueprints to be much use [08:51] zequence, I'm likely not going to be much use for implementing anything this cycle but I'll certainly help toward rt-kit implementation for next cycle if that's okay. I'm off to bed for the night (Vancouver timezone). [08:52] stochastic: This cycle is all but done, so no problem [08:53] Yeah FF was long ago now. [08:53] considering it's and LTS, it's a shame we haven't done more, but there's always a next one [08:54] stochastic: gn, and great to have you back (all though I wasn't around back then) [09:25] stochastic: also, if you happen to any jack coding, pulseaudio-module-jack might be in a need of a little optimizing. The main issue I think is just that it eats a lot of CPU. [09:25] not as much now, as it's defaulting to two channels only [10:21] ubuntustudio-live is in the repos. Going to switch to it now [15:05] zequence: there is as of now no kernel in repos for 14.04 [15:05] ISO build may take a while [16:14] OvenWerk1: What do you mean, no kernel? [16:15] OvenWerk1: Next ISO should build anytime now [19:35] so beta2 is on the 27th. Is the iso prepared a few days before so we test it before the beta2 release? [20:28] cub: Testing of the Beta 2 should start anytime now. Today is Beta 2 freeze (or should have been) [20:29] new ISOs are out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ [20:29] I'll give it a try tomorrow [20:29] We should have the new slides, but not the background