[00:42] <stochastic> zequence_, are there any bug #'s or blueprints I should start to read first?
[00:43] <OvenWerk1> I don't think the 14.10 blue prints are up yet, but one of the things done was to separate trhe blueprints into cycle and long term.
[00:44] <OvenWerk1> Let me see if I can find them, I have been pretty inactive this cycle
[00:48] <OvenWerk1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Blueprints gives an overview
[07:13] <zequence_> stochastic: check out the wiki wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio
[07:13] <zequence_> stochastic: There's a blueprints page there
[07:13] <zequence_> Ah, right, OvenWerk1 already linked it
[07:37] <stochastic> zequence_, how is the controls update coming?
[07:38] <zequence_> stochastic: I've been rewriting it from scratch
[07:38] <stochastic> That's what I read.
[07:39] <zequence_> it's not finished yet. Haven't had the time
[07:39] <stochastic> I know the old version really wasn't doing much anymore.
[07:39] <zequence_> no. we need to SRU it. Should have been done a long time ago
[07:40] <stochastic> fair enough, we all get busy
[07:40] <zequence_> stochastic: have you had any experience with rt-kit?
[07:40] <stochastic> minimal
[07:40] <zequence_> I'm thinking if we could get jack working with that, it would probably be one of the better alternatives
[07:41] <zequence_> what other alternatives are there, that would be good for the future
[07:43]  * stochastic is just getting back into kernel stuff.
[07:43] <stochastic> Last time I loaded Ubuntu Studio it shipped a GNOME interface
[07:44] <stochastic> I'll take a look through where Controls is and what the current kernel you're shipping with is, and I'll let you know in a bit
[07:45] <zequence> stochastic: Well, if you'd like something to do, solving how to get rt privilege by just installing jackd on any Debian derived system would be a nice place to start
[07:45] <zequence> in any case, we can't use audio group
[07:46] <stochastic> no?  that's how we used to get it done
[07:46] <zequence> if nothing els, we need to create a new one
[07:46] <stochastic> security reasons?
[07:46] <zequence> audio group is used for other things too
[07:46] <zequence> yeah
[07:46] <stochastic> fair enough
[07:46] <zequence> Debian has users in audio group by default, but not Ubuntu
[07:46] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio does, for the first user
[07:47] <stochastic> So the trigger to allow RT privilege will be the installation of jackd on the system?  for every user?
[07:48] <stochastic> *in an ideal setup?
[07:49] <zequence> if we use groups, the ideal would be for the user to already be apart of the group (like, a group called "jack")
[07:49] <zequence> but, I suppose with rt-kit, one could solve that in another way
[07:50] <zequence> also, if we use groups, we should push for a change in both Debian and Ubuntu - which from what I hear, may be difficult, since they prefer not to introduce new groups. 
[07:50] <zequence> but, still, not impossible
[07:51] <zequence> going to work - bbl
[07:51] <stochastic> cya
[08:45] <zequence> stochastic: We haven't really been using the blueprints this cycle so much, but they should contain some ideas
[08:50] <zequence> the problem is really that we have too few developers for the blueprints to be much use
[08:51] <stochastic> zequence, I'm likely not going to be much use for implementing anything this cycle but I'll certainly help toward rt-kit implementation for next cycle if that's okay.  I'm off to bed for the night (Vancouver timezone).
[08:52] <zequence> stochastic: This cycle is all but done, so no problem
[08:53] <stochastic> Yeah FF was long ago now.
[08:53] <zequence> considering it's and LTS, it's a shame we haven't done more, but there's always a next one
[08:54] <zequence> stochastic: gn, and great to have you back (all though I wasn't around back then)
[09:25] <zequence> stochastic: also, if you happen to any jack coding, pulseaudio-module-jack might be in a need of a little optimizing. The main issue I think is just that it eats a lot of CPU.
[09:25] <zequence> not as much now, as it's defaulting to two channels only
[10:21] <zequence> ubuntustudio-live is in the repos. Going to switch to it now
[15:05] <OvenWerk1> zequence: there is as of now no kernel in repos for 14.04
[15:05] <OvenWerk1> ISO build may take a while
[16:14] <zequence> OvenWerk1: What do you mean, no kernel?
[16:15] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Next ISO should build anytime now
[19:35] <cub> so beta2 is on the 27th. Is the iso prepared a few days before so we test it before the beta2 release?
[20:28] <zequence> cub: Testing of the Beta 2 should start anytime now. Today is Beta 2 freeze (or should have been)
[20:29] <zequence> new ISOs are out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/
[20:29] <zequence> I'll give it a try tomorrow
[20:29] <zequence> We should have the new slides, but not the background