| Valduare | hi guys | 00:14 |
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| lazyPower | Allo Valduare | 00:14 |
| Valduare | looking into this maas and juju stuff tonight :) | 00:14 |
| Valduare | wishing I had spare hardware to test on | 00:14 |
| lazyPower | I've you've got a single beefy machine you can try out MAAS in avirtual machine | 00:15 |
| Valduare | that I dont | 00:15 |
| Valduare | I run amde350 proc board | 00:15 |
| Valduare | does juju and these charms play nicely with arm too? | 00:16 |
| lazyPower | I dont have an answer for that... | 00:16 |
| lazyPower | But I can get back to you tomorrow | 00:17 |
| Valduare | looking forward to the day when I could use things like mk902 for small server farm heh | 00:18 |
| lazyPower | Ideally thats just compilation time magic and some PPA's | 00:19 |
| lazyPower | build an arm compiler farm, and start porting packages. | 00:19 |
| lazyPower | there's already some ARM support in the ubuntu archives | 00:19 |
| Valduare | beyond my skillset | 00:20 |
| davecheney | Valduare: yes, charms work on arm systems | 00:22 |
| Valduare | davecheney: I was just talking to one of the guys in #maas about arm devices for maas as well | 00:23 |
| Valduare | looks like things are getting pretty close to a guy like me being able to set something up heh | 00:23 |
| davecheney | Valduare: there aren't a lot in the realm that mortals ca nafford | 00:23 |
| davecheney | but there are server options like hp's moonshot | 00:23 |
| davecheney | and the calexeda machines [rip] | 00:24 |
| Valduare | davecheney: I use a gigabyte ga-e350n board with 16 gigs of ram hosting 14 vm’s right now | 00:24 |
| davecheney | maas requires that the machines can netboot and have an LOM | 00:24 |
| davecheney | a LOM | 00:24 |
| Valduare | LOM? | 00:24 |
| davecheney | but you can always use the manual provider to enroll machines that you've already setup | 00:24 |
| davecheney | LOM == iLO == IPMI == Lights out management | 00:25 |
| Valduare | ah | 00:25 |
| davecheney | IBM call them service processors | 00:25 |
| davecheney | dell call's them DRACs | 00:25 |
| Valduare | with these arm units using half watt idle can maas be configured to not try and shut them down? | 00:25 |
| davecheney | Valduare: skip maas | 00:25 |
| davecheney | use the manual privcer | 00:25 |
| davecheney | provider | 00:26 |
| lazyPower | davecheney: whats the benefit to skipping maas? Less to worry about being ported or.... | 00:36 |
| lazyPower | my knowledge of arm in the realm of ubuntu is sadly limited. I'll add it ot my required reading list. | 00:36 |
| sarnold | I suspect its because maas is mostly useful if you want to turn machines off and on :) | 00:39 |
| sarnold | if they're just going to be on all the time, why bother? | 00:39 |
| Valduare | isnt it also for if you want a baremetal server for something ? | 00:40 |
| Valduare | and then roll it back “into the cloud" | 00:40 |
| davecheney | Valduare: /s/cloud/butt/ | 00:41 |
| davecheney | maas lets you treat raw tin like virtual machines | 00:41 |
| davecheney | so you can 'checkout', or 'reserve' a raw hardware which is running *exactly* the same cloud image that you find on any of our CPC partners | 00:42 |
| davecheney | (certified public cloud) | 00:42 |
| lazyPower | I get the purpose of MAAS as a whole, i was just curious about skipping it as the provisioner. | 00:42 |
| lazyPower | I'm actually pining over a VMAAS setup for some reason | 00:42 |
| lazyPower | (mostly because I want to learn more about maas) | 00:42 |
| davecheney | lazyPower: we skip the privisioner because there is no maas provider for little arm boards | 00:43 |
| davecheney | rpi, bbb, pandaboard etc don't have a management nic | 00:43 |
| davecheney | so we can't remote power them or remote netboot them | 00:43 |
| davecheney | at the moment | 00:43 |
| davecheney | most of the parts exist if you're prepared to work at it | 00:43 |
| davecheney | for instance the arm builders that ubuntu uses are remotely powered | 00:43 |
| lazyPower | ahhh ok - i've been in talks with marco about it, and the dual nic was a blocker for my suggested rpi setup | 00:44 |
| davecheney | and you can use uboot (grub for arm device) | 00:44 |
| lazyPower | makes sense | 00:44 |
| davecheney | to netboot | 00:44 |
| davecheney | but as a function of time == money | 00:44 |
| davecheney | this would never be more than a side project | 00:44 |
| davecheney | honestly | 00:44 |
| davecheney | it's easier to just use the ssh provider | 00:45 |
| davecheney | and skip maas | 00:45 |
| lazyPower | I'm considering picking up a few BBB boards and building a micro cluster out of them for some in home apps, and power down my beefy quad core to save on power. | 00:45 |
| lazyPower | it doesn't take much to run python code | 00:45 |
| Valduare | lazyPower: look into mk902 | 00:45 |
| davecheney | lazyPower: meh, just rent a digital ocean server for 5 bucks a month | 00:46 |
| Valduare | much more for your money than BBB | 00:46 |
| lazyPower | davecheney: these are apps that are specific to my house, and not suited for the cloud. I dont want to run my garage door opener on DO :P | 00:46 |
| davecheney | lazyPower: don't you trust the cloud ? | 00:46 |
| lazyPower | not with the keys to my house, nope nope | 00:46 |
| davecheney | Valduare: /s/cloud/butt/ | 00:46 |
| lazyPower | With my RSS Reader and blog, you bet. | 00:46 |
| sarnold | davecheney: lol | 00:48 |
| davecheney | lazyPower: the BBB is a great first choice | 00:50 |
| davecheney | little bit faster than the Rpi | 00:51 |
| davecheney | and you get a little bit of built in flash | 00:51 |
| lazyPower | Yea, the 1g of on board memory is what akes me happy | 00:51 |
| davecheney | it's 512mb | 00:51 |
| lazyPower | theres a 1g bbb board i thought | 00:51 |
| davecheney | ORLY ? | 00:51 |
| * davecheney googles | 00:51 | |
| lazyPower | https://www.tigal.com//product.asp?pid=3406 | 00:51 |
| davecheney | yup, 512mb | 00:52 |
| lazyPower | gah, nope, says 512 in the read out | 00:52 |
| sarnold | these things look nice compared to the pandaboard es I've got: http://cubox-i.com/table/ | 00:52 |
| davecheney | BBB will run at 1Ghz with enough current, or 550mhz with USB 500ma | 00:52 |
| sarnold | cheaper -and- faster... | 00:52 |
| davecheney | sarnold: oh no | 00:52 |
| davecheney | not the cubox i | 00:52 |
| davecheney | the biuld quality makes dollar store kids toys look solid | 00:53 |
| davecheney | i have one | 00:53 |
| sarnold | oh no! | 00:53 |
| sarnold | sigh | 00:53 |
| sarnold | it's almost like $55 isn't a good price for a computer :) | 00:53 |
| davecheney | http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G137510300620 | 00:53 |
| davecheney | consider the udoo board | 00:53 |
| davecheney | they support ubuntu now | 00:54 |
| davecheney | identical hardware (iMX.6) to the cubox | 00:54 |
| Valduare | guys guys… have you seen the mk902 specs? | 00:54 |
| davecheney | A10/A20 I think | 00:54 |
| lazyPower | haha Valduare, you sound like a broken record. Are you a share holder with the mk902? | 00:55 |
| Valduare | no | 00:55 |
| davecheney | Valduare: looks nice | 00:55 |
| Valduare | just cant wait to get one ordered :P | 00:55 |
| Valduare | granted most of the community around the mk devices are home theatre box types | 00:56 |
| Valduare | but the hardware runs ubuntu quite nicely | 00:56 |
| davecheney | Valduare: i was thinking of the older mk800 series devices which were HDMI stick type things | 00:56 |
| Valduare | I have a bunch of mk808 sticks | 00:56 |
| Valduare | just returned an mk802 cozyswan clone to amazon, deciding wether to put the money towards an mk902 or ram upgrade for my laptop | 00:57 |
| lazyPower | hmm... $110 pc... | 00:58 |
| lazyPower | sarnold: sold, i want one of these cuboxi's | 01:07 |
| lazyPower | actually, ~ 5 of them to be exact. | 01:07 |
| sarnold | haha | 01:07 |
| sarnold | lazyPower: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741127 | 01:08 |
| davecheney | their current kernel | 01:09 |
| davecheney | in fact all the iMX6 kernels are OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD | 01:09 |
| davecheney | 3.0.36 | 01:09 |
| sarnold | ow | 01:09 |
| davecheney | yeah | 01:09 |
| davecheney | bourns! | 01:09 |
| lazyPower | bummer :| | 01:10 |
| lazyPower | you know, i dont think buliding that would be all that crazy, and cloud storage is cheap... | 01:11 |
| lazyPower | however, just about every update ever run would cause it to break stuff | 01:11 |
| lazyPower | nevermind, i'm wishful thinking again | 01:11 |
| * sarnold giggles, "butt storage" | 01:12 | |
| lazyPower | Vatt is this s/cloud/butt/ thing that seems to have taken off. Did i miss a warthogs post or something? | 01:12 |
| davecheney | lazyPower: welcome to the internet | 01:13 |
| sarnold | lazyPower: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cloud-to-butt-plus/ | 01:13 |
| davecheney | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai?hl=en | 01:13 |
| davecheney | JYNX! | 01:13 |
| sarnold | diversity! firefox -and- chrome are covered :) | 01:13 |
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| lazyPower | http://i.imgur.com/XEJveUI.png | 01:14 |
| Valduare | so these charms | 02:24 |
| Valduare | how are they made | 02:24 |
| davecheney | Valduare: charms are a collecton of shell scripts | 02:30 |
| davecheney | in a tarball | 02:30 |
| davecheney | with names like | 02:31 |
| davecheney | hooks/install | 02:31 |
| davecheney | hooks/config-changed | 02:31 |
| Valduare | so all the normal commands i’d do to provision a servr just wraped up in a shell ? | 02:32 |
| davecheney | Valduare: exactly | 02:32 |
| Valduare | so not something you’d do for if your just provisioning 2 or 3 of a certain webapp etc? :P | 02:32 |
| davecheney | Valduare: sure | 02:33 |
| davecheney | but the thing is | 02:33 |
| davecheney | you can use other peoples charms | 02:33 |
| davecheney | in fact | 02:33 |
| davecheney | you shold | 02:33 |
| davecheney | charms encapsulate the best practice of configuring a particular service | 02:33 |
| davecheney | need mysql | 02:33 |
| davecheney | deploy the mysql charm | 02:33 |
| davecheney | need rabbit mq | 02:33 |
| davecheney | deploy the rabbit mq charm | 02:33 |
| davecheney | need an openstack install | 02:33 |
| davecheney | deploy the openstack charms, or all in one as a bundle | 02:34 |
| Valduare | are these charms checked over and scrutinized? | 02:34 |
| davecheney | Valduare: of course | 02:34 |
| davecheney | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-policy.html | 02:35 |
| Valduare | interesint | 02:38 |
| Valduare | is there place I can search what charms are available | 02:38 |
| Valduare | looking for a canvas server specifically - instructure learning management system | 02:38 |
| davecheney | Valduare: sure, https://jujucharms.com/ | 02:38 |
| davecheney | i don't think we have had a canvas charm contributed | 02:39 |
| Valduare | darn | 02:39 |
| Valduare | its pretty fancy lms | 02:39 |
| lazyPower | Valduare: actually - to build on davecheney's answer, you're not just dropping shell scripts. We actually encourage users to use configuration management tools if you're already familiar with them | 02:46 |
| lazyPower | if you look at the rails charm, it uses chef. The puppet master server, puppet master. I'm getting fairly handy with ansible in a few of my newer iterations on charms | 02:47 |
| lazyPower | s/, puppet master/puppet/ | 02:47 |
| Valduare | i’ve never done anything more than follow a blog post guide for setting up what Im looking to do heh | 02:47 |
| lazyPower | welp, you're 80% of the way there. Encapsulate teh logics into idempotent bash scripts, and segregate the logic into the proper hooks and you've got a charm. | 02:48 |
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| jose | hey! in the case I want to deploy rabbitmq-server, do I need to deploy ceph-client or hacluster? | 04:33 |
| davecheney | jose: not unless you need those services | 04:35 |
| jose | davecheney: cool, thanks~ | 04:35 |
| jose | !* | 04:35 |
| jose | I'm in the middle of an attempt to write a Reddit charm - it's more hard than what I initially thought | 04:35 |
| davecheney | reddit ? | 04:36 |
| jose | yep, what powers reddit.com, it's open source :) | 04:37 |
| jose | https://github.com/reddit/reddit/ | 04:37 |
| sarnold | cool :) | 04:37 |
| davecheney | jose: right, are you deploying reddit with juju ? | 04:37 |
| jose | (I didn't know about it until a while ago) | 04:37 |
| jose | davecheney: not yet, I'm in the process of writing the charm still | 04:37 |
| jose | but that would be the final purpose, yes | 04:38 |
| davecheney | cool | 04:38 |
| davecheney | you've come to the right channel then | 04:38 |
| jose | oh, oh, are you a charmer? | 04:38 |
| davecheney | some think i am, i think they are mistaken | 04:40 |
| jose | mind doing a review of a charm? | 04:40 |
| davecheney | jose: sure I can take a quick look | 04:41 |
| jose | awesome :) | 04:41 |
| davecheney | if you want a proper review, why not consider submitting it to the store | 04:41 |
| jose | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1199052 and https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/mailman/trunk | 04:41 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1199052: New charm: mailman <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199052> | 04:41 |
| jose | well, I already have, but it's still on the queue | 04:41 |
| jose | 11 days as of today | 04:41 |
| AskUbuntu | Error in creating juju bootstrap | http://askubuntu.com/q/438851 | 05:01 |
| jose | davecheney: did you get to take a peek? | 05:05 |
| davecheney | jose: i had a little look | 05:10 |
| davecheney | it's late in my work day | 05:10 |
| jose | oh, I thought you were down under | 05:10 |
| * jose has to stop making assumptions | 05:10 | |
| davecheney | jose: i am | 05:10 |
| jose | well, anyways :) | 05:11 |
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| themonk | marcoceppi: hi | 08:35 |
| themonk | marcoceppi: i am facing problem in charm relation | 08:36 |
| themonk | marcoceppi: i am setting private ip and server port in relation set in relation-joined of provider charm but cant get it in requere charm relation joined/changed using relation get | 08:38 |
| themonk | i am facing problem in charm relation | 08:38 |
| themonk | i am setting private ip and server port in relation set in relation-joined of provider charm but cant get it in require charm relation joined/changed using relation-get | 08:38 |
| jose | themonk: mind if I take a look at the code? | 08:59 |
| jose | is it in LP somewhere? | 08:59 |
| jamespage | if there are any charmers around with some time I need a review of: | 10:13 |
| jamespage | https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charm-helpers/neutron-packages/+merge/198518 | 10:13 |
| jamespage | https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/charm-helpers/active-active/+merge/211285 | 10:13 |
| jamespage | and | 10:13 |
| jamespage | https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/charm-helpers/icehouse/+merge/211934 | 10:13 |
| jamespage | aside from active-active, the other two branchs have been in use in OpenStack CI for the last week | 10:14 |
| jamespage | nope - they are all in use in the CI environment | 10:16 |
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| marcoceppi | jamespage: reviewing now | 10:45 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, thanks | 10:45 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: icehouse branch gives me conflicts, it apparently does something different than the first neutron-packages branch | 10:52 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, most likely yes | 10:52 |
| marcoceppi | I can resolve the diference really quickly if you tell me which to go with | 10:52 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7150639/ | 10:52 |
| marcoceppi | I'm guessing MERGE-SOURCE is the way to go | 10:52 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, that is odd - I thought that icehouse had that branch merged | 10:53 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, but yes MERGE_SOURCE is good | 10:53 |
| marcoceppi | fwiw, it's the only conflict I got | 10:53 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: ack, will resolve | 10:53 |
| jamespage | that has the change to accomodate the 3.13 kernel | 10:53 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, apologues - these have stacked up a bit | 10:53 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: np, seems like a lot of good work though | 10:54 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, more to come | 10:54 |
| jamespage | ssl-everywhere man! | 10:54 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: ping me if you need more charm-helpers merges this week | 10:54 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, will do | 10:54 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, if you fancy another quicky - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/precise/rabbitmq-server/source-take-two/+merge/212576 | 10:58 |
| jamespage | that should unblock mbruzek's test failures for his tests branch | 10:58 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, just read that back | 10:58 |
| jamespage | lol | 10:58 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, I have a full charm-helpers redux backed up so need to get that and mbruzek's stuff landed | 10:59 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: so source is no longer immutable for rabbitmq-server charm? | 10:59 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, you can change it on the fly! | 11:00 |
| marcoceppi | \o/ jamespage thanks for that, appreciate it will review after the icehouse branch | 11:00 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, of course for the majority of time, this will not do much | 11:00 |
| jamespage | unless a new rabbitmq is avaliable. | 11:00 |
| marcoceppi | ack | 11:00 |
| marcoceppi | I'll just drop that little note in the readme when I review it | 11:01 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, ah - good idea | 11:02 |
| jamespage | I can update that now | 11:02 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, notes added to README | 11:08 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: Oh, brilliant, thank you! | 11:08 |
| marcoceppi | lazyPower: hey, can you put a few charms in the top of your queue for reviewing today? | 11:10 |
| zchander | ping lazyPower | 11:21 |
| overm1nd | I'm a bit confused, what happen if I put phpmyadmin service on the same machine as wordpress? | 11:32 |
| overm1nd | some times it works some times it doesn't | 11:32 |
| overm1nd | checking for the open port is not a requirement for the charm? | 11:32 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: it's typically /never/ a good idea to use the --to flag without isolation | 11:38 |
| marcoceppi | charms are created with the idea that they have the entire machine at their control | 11:38 |
| overm1nd | ok | 11:38 |
| overm1nd | what you mean for isolation? | 11:39 |
| marcoceppi | case in point, by default WordPress uses nginx, php5-fpm and phpmyadmin uses apache2 and mod-php5 | 11:39 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: using either --to lxc: or --to kvm: | 11:39 |
| marcoceppi | where it will create a new LXC or KVM instance on the machine, so --to lxc:1 will create a new LXC container on machine 1 | 11:40 |
| overm1nd | so it will isolate the service | 11:40 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: yeah, in a container/vm instead of directly placing it on the machine | 11:41 |
| overm1nd | understand | 11:41 |
| marcoceppi | if you're going for density, that's the way to go | 11:41 |
| overm1nd | I have some early feedback from yesterday about juju | 11:41 |
| overm1nd | I was expecting more "stability" in the sense of coerence between states | 11:42 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: how so? | 11:42 |
| overm1nd | after one day of juju deploy I see that some time if you push a service with resolved | 11:43 |
| overm1nd | it works | 11:43 |
| overm1nd | even if the juju resolved before was not | 11:43 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: so you're having charms in an error state after a "long running deployment"? | 11:43 |
| overm1nd | mmm no | 11:43 |
| overm1nd | but is I change a little the order of commands | 11:44 |
| overm1nd | I see different results | 11:44 |
| marcoceppi | well, that /shouldn't/ happen. charms are designed to be idempotent | 11:44 |
| overm1nd | yes I was expecting it | 11:45 |
| marcoceppi | however, some charms are a bit old and outdated and may not work like we expect. Which charms are you having issues with? | 11:45 |
| overm1nd | I have the feeling that not all charms are destroying everithing on the machine | 11:45 |
| overm1nd | I experimented with haproxy worpress phpmyadmin | 11:46 |
| overm1nd | juju-gui and mysql | 11:46 |
| overm1nd | I opened a bug for wp | 11:46 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: ah, I see that bug, thanks | 11:47 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: destroy service doesn't actually clean up the machine | 11:47 |
| overm1nd | again I'm not a guru so take it with care | 11:47 |
| marcoceppi | but the install hoook isn't being robust enough | 11:47 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: typically, you would terminate-machine to remove the machine, then deploy on a clean machine | 11:48 |
| overm1nd | in italiy we say "pinze" :P | 11:48 |
| overm1nd | ok noted | 11:48 |
| marcoceppi | but that's a bug in wp as well as the hook isn't really being idempotent, so I'll address that | 11:48 |
| overm1nd | some charms does not have any info about the address to use them | 11:48 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: how so? | 11:49 |
| overm1nd | like phpmyadmin, munin | 11:49 |
| overm1nd | like the url to access to the interface | 11:49 |
| marcoceppi | All charms can query their address information with `unit-get private-address`, unit-get public-address` | 11:49 |
| overm1nd | seems obviuos but I had to dig in the config on the node machine to understant the url | 11:50 |
| overm1nd | I didn't know | 11:50 |
| overm1nd | another note: why the juju-gui does not say the number of the machine? | 11:51 |
| overm1nd | I think its a really useful info | 11:51 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: becuase you're looking at a service overview, not a machine view | 11:51 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: there's working being done to show a machine view of the deployment | 11:51 |
| overm1nd | right | 11:52 |
| overm1nd | my next step is to start writing a charm | 11:53 |
| overm1nd | I want to have revive-server (ex openx) | 11:53 |
| overm1nd | scalable | 11:53 |
| marcoceppi | awesome! | 11:54 |
| overm1nd | but I still to understand juju more | 11:55 |
| overm1nd | I was not able to use haproxy | 11:55 |
| overm1nd | as a frontend for more than 1 service | 11:55 |
| overm1nd | maybe I didn't getr the point | 11:55 |
| overm1nd | I'm used to have an I density service server by my own | 11:56 |
| overm1nd | juju seems to waste a lot of resources :P | 11:56 |
| overm1nd | high* density* | 11:57 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: you can, but you have to configure haproxy a little more to do multiple services | 11:57 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: well, juju was designed with high-scale cloud deployments in mind, so if you're looking to manage a smaller pool of resources you have to bend a few things in juju | 11:58 |
| overm1nd | is ok to deploy with juju and than configure the machine itself by hand? | 11:58 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: you typically wouldn't do that | 11:58 |
| marcoceppi | what do you need to configure outside of juju? | 11:58 |
| overm1nd | for example | 11:59 |
| overm1nd | how can I create a subdomani on apache server and deploy a simple php app? | 11:59 |
| overm1nd | I think juju is for doing way bigger deployment than what I need | 12:00 |
| overm1nd | but I woiuld like to use it at least as scalable backend of frontend for other services | 12:01 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: deploying a simple php app would be one of two ways | 12:01 |
| * overm1nd listening | 12:01 | |
| marcoceppi | either build a subordinate charm to the apache2 charm, or build a standalone charm that installs apache2 and php and your app | 12:02 |
| overm1nd | i don't know uet what is a subordinate charm | 12:02 |
| overm1nd | yet* | 12:02 |
| * overm1nd reading docs | 12:02 | |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: subordinate charm is a charm that co-exists with another charm on a deployment, it's a way to extend fucntionality that complements a service | 12:02 |
| overm1nd | sounds what I need | 12:03 |
| * marcoceppi nods | 12:03 | |
| overm1nd | last question I promise | 12:04 |
| marcoceppi | so, you can make a charm that deploys on top of the apache2 charm, which will put your app in, say, /var/www/<app> creates a new virtual host in /etc/apache2/sites-available, enables that vhost, etc | 12:04 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: you can ask as many questions as you need! | 12:04 |
| overm1nd | this is a type of charm I will try first to write | 12:04 |
| overm1nd | the question is: if a service is stuck in pending | 12:05 |
| overm1nd | what can I do? resolve do nothing | 12:05 |
| overm1nd | because is not an error state | 12:05 |
| overm1nd | and I can not debug using putty :P | 12:05 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: pending likely means the machine is still starting, juju failed to install on the machine, or something else that's bad | 12:05 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: typically, if a machine is pending more than 10 mins something went wrong | 12:05 |
| marcoceppi | and juju isn't actually set up on that machine | 12:06 |
| overm1nd | I think I will try to debug from a wirtual machine | 12:07 |
| overm1nd | but is the juju env portable? | 12:07 |
| overm1nd | I mean the machine I use to give commands | 12:08 |
| overm1nd | if I want to manage the cluster from another pc can I move juju? | 12:09 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: yes | 12:14 |
| overm1nd | because from putty mtux does not work | 12:14 |
| overm1nd | or I am not lucky :P | 12:15 |
| overm1nd | thank you very much for your suggestions marcoceppi I will try them | 12:23 |
| lazyPower | marcoceppi: sure | 12:38 |
| lazyPower | zchander: pong | 12:38 |
| marcoceppi | lazyPower: sd-agent, importio if you would please <3 | 12:39 |
| lazyPower | marcoceppi: dd-agent you mean? | 12:39 |
| marcoceppi | lazyPower: nope, sd-agent | 12:40 |
| lazyPower | ah ok, see it | 12:40 |
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| tvansteenburgh | can someone remind me which apt-repo to add to get juju-devel? | 13:16 |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi told me i get 3 months of dumb questions for free, so i'm starting right away | 13:17 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: I was kidding about the three months ;) | 13:17 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: and it's not a dumb question! ppa:juju/devel | 13:18 |
| tvansteenburgh | thanks :D | 13:18 |
| lazyPower | wesleymason: great work on the server density charm. | 13:19 |
| lazyPower | haha, he's callin you out marcoceppi | 13:19 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: cheers, I noticed you open an account, assumed you were testing :) | 13:19 |
| lazyPower | i like this guy already | 13:19 |
| lazyPower | wesleymason: theres just one thing stopping it from going to the charmstore. I left notes on the bug | 13:19 |
| jcastro | can anyone find the rails scalable example bundle? | 13:19 |
| lazyPower | its literally a one liner 30 second fix. | 13:19 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: awesome, cheers, I'll talk a look in a bit | 13:20 |
| jcastro | man, awesome, lazyPower, someone added ceph support to owncloud | 13:20 |
| lazyPower | jcastro: it appears to be missing. I'm only getting the rails-single. | 13:20 |
| lazyPower | jcastro: that was zchander :) | 13:20 |
| jcastro | zchander, nice! | 13:20 |
| lazyPower | our community is bringing the heat with these new MP's in the Q | 13:21 |
| jcastro | wesleymason, I think you have my email right? I can send you a juju shirt for your charm, just jet me along your address and size. | 13:21 |
| jcastro | zchander, you too! my address is jorge@ubuntu.com | 13:21 |
| jcastro | lazyPower, importio is still waiting too | 13:22 |
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| lazyPower | jcastro: next in the Q | 13:22 |
| jcastro | man, a good week in submissions! | 13:22 |
| wesleymason | jcastro: w00t, thanks! | 13:22 |
| jcastro | lazyPower, ping me when you promulgate server density, I'd like to blog it | 13:23 |
| lazyPower | jcastro: pending a one liner from wesleymason, then give me a minute thirty and you'll have it. | 13:23 |
| lazyPower | so draft away senor | 13:24 |
| noodles775 | sinzui: Hi, if you have a chance, let me know what I missed with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1297201 that it's incomplete. | 13:24 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1297201: Can not bootstrap after upgrade to 1.17.6 <juju-core:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297201> | 13:24 |
| sinzui | noodles775, apt-cache policy juju-local | 13:24 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: quick question because I couldn't find a very solid answer in the the interface docs, if I change the requires def to "serverdensity" on line 15, it using the juju-info interface is still fine, correct? | 13:25 |
| lazyPower | correct | 13:25 |
| wesleymason | \o/ | 13:25 |
| lazyPower | the relationship name should *never* be juju-info, as thats reserved | 13:25 |
| lazyPower | but the interface is fine being juju-info, that just means you haven't defined a specific interface for the relationship and to use the default. | 13:26 |
| sinzui | noodles775, do you get your packages from the devel ppa or ubuntu. Mayne ubuntu has a bad package. I cannot help with that, but I can let someone know | 13:26 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: makes sense, thanks | 13:26 |
| marcoceppi | wesleymason: there's also a "local-monitors" interface, that charms like nagios and munin are using | 13:26 |
| lazyPower | wesleymason: suggestion on improvement for the docs? I know the relationship stuff can get a bit confusing - since I've been staring at them for 3 months, i feel like i've got a decent grasp on them and your feedback is pure gold. | 13:26 |
| beuno | o/ wesleymason | 13:26 |
| jcastro | yeah you're supposed to be able to swap in serverdensity for any one of those tools right? | 13:27 |
| marcoceppi | where charms will tell the subordinate what services to actually monitor, not sure if that's relevant for the SD charm or not, but thought you might want to know | 13:27 |
| wesleymason | aha, I was looking for something like that, might be more appropriate | 13:27 |
| marcoceppi | wesleymason: it could definetly be a post-store revision | 13:27 |
| noodles775 | sinzui: Ah - I see. I'd updated juju-core, but it didn't (and couldn't know to) update juju-local. I should have done it the other way around. Thanks. | 13:27 |
| marcoceppi | wesleymason: as is this works, I can dig up the local-monitors docs for you if you'd like | 13:28 |
| wesleymason | marcoceppi: yeah, I'll have a think on the best one later | 13:28 |
| sinzui | noodles775, well I don't think you should need to. upgrade should have noticed there was a newer juju-local | 13:28 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: I'll put my thoughts together tonight and mail you something | 13:28 |
| marcoceppi | wesleymason: cool, I'll open a bug on lp when this is promulgated to track it's progress, etc | 13:28 |
| lazyPower | wesleymason: ta! I appreciate the feedback | 13:28 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: pushed some changes | 13:35 |
| zchander | lazyPower: Today I made some additional changes for the ownCloud charm and the Merge Proposal did work :D | 13:36 |
| zchander | Thanks for your information | 13:36 |
| lazyPower | wesleymason: excellent. One thing for you to be aware of, if you go the route of local-monitors you will want ot *Add* the relationship instead of changing this one. | 13:36 |
| lazyPower | that way you maintain compat with existing deployments. | 13:36 |
| lazyPower | zchander: awesome! | 13:36 |
| wesleymason | lazyPower: ah, noted | 13:36 |
| lazyPower | glad its sorted :) | 13:36 |
| lazyPower | wesleymason: thanks for the quick turn around. Promulgating now | 13:37 |
| zchander | Anyone familiar with File_sender? (https://www.assembla.com/spaces/file_sender/wiki) | 13:37 |
| wesleymason | btw - I gave an unconf talk at PHP NE Conference 2014 the other week on Juju, wrote it up about an hour before giving it, and gave a live demo of deploying a PHP app as a service on the local provider that all worked like a charm: http://1stvamp.github.io/phpne-2014-juju-talk/ | 13:38 |
| lazyPower | nice! | 13:39 |
| lazyPower | jcastro: read wesleymason's comment here, this will get you excited ^ | 13:40 |
| overm1nd | zchander I appreciate your work on owncloud but why not seafile? | 13:45 |
| overm1nd | seems less popular but more mature | 13:45 |
| overm1nd | I don't know file_sender | 13:46 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: you could add it :) | 13:46 |
| overm1nd | ehehe too much stuff to do on juju for know :P | 13:47 |
| zchander | overm1nd: It was something I found via Google and it was already a charm. ;) It made my life a bit easier :D | 13:54 |
| overm1nd | ok, I wanted only to suggest you better alternatives | 13:55 |
| overm1nd | I digged in to the sync world recently | 13:56 |
| jcastro | is owncloud still an old version in the charm? we should fix that | 13:59 |
| jcastro | lazyPower, hey before you promulgate serverdensity check the README, the usage section needs some markdown love for the commands | 14:00 |
| lazyPower | jcastro: already promulgated, and it renders correct in uberwriter | 14:00 |
| jcastro | https://jujucharms.com/sidebar/search/~wesmason/precise/serverdensity-24/?text=serverdensity#readme | 14:01 |
| jcastro | huh | 14:01 |
| jcastro | but not in the store? | 14:01 |
| lazyPower | weak sauce | 14:01 |
| lazyPower | i cant wait until our docs are in markdown | 14:01 |
| lazyPower | i'll just run the readme's through that and get a 1:1 comparison | 14:01 |
| lazyPower | apparently my tools support more flavors of markdown than you can shake a stick at | 14:02 |
| jcastro | we should specifically do github-markdown | 14:02 |
| jcastro | or whatever the defacto standard is | 14:02 |
| wesleymason | GHFM is fairly defacto, for better or worse | 14:03 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: the md docs I'm working on are doing GFM, with a few extras | 14:04 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: it looks like charmworld has a bit of a back log? check again in about 10 mins | 14:06 |
| jcastro | yeah that was my plan | 14:06 |
| jcastro | rails/example-complex is missing too | 14:06 |
| jcastro | I told rick about it | 14:06 |
| zchander | jcastro: I have included the 6.0.2 version in my ‘version’ | 14:12 |
| jcastro | nice! | 14:13 |
| themonk | jose: ok i will | 14:16 |
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| overm1nd | guys is there an up-to-date juju windows client? on the site is 1.16.6 | 14:43 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: 1.16.6 is the lastest stable juju client | 14:47 |
| marcoceppi | we don't build devel windows clients | 14:48 |
| overm1nd | ah ok | 14:48 |
| marcoceppi | nor do we put devel releases of juju client in homebrew | 14:48 |
| overm1nd | so is the enviroment file grammare change a bit since last rel? | 14:48 |
| overm1nd | I get no registered provider for manual | 14:49 |
| overm1nd | error | 14:49 |
| overm1nd | when I try to import my juju conf from another machine | 14:50 |
| marcoceppi | overm1nd: yeah, the provider name changes from null to manual in 1.16 -> 1.17 | 14:54 |
| overm1nd | ok thx | 14:54 |
| marcoceppi | wesleymason: jcastro: serverdensity is in charm store, fyi https://jujucharms.com/precise/serverdensity/ | 14:59 |
| wesleymason | \o/ | 15:08 |
| bloodearnest | wesleymason: nice work | 15:12 |
| wesleymason | bloodearnest: ta | 15:13 |
| jcastro | lazyPower, hey what was our TLDR for the sample rails app? | 15:15 |
| lazyPower | jcastro: I don't think we have one atm. I haven't had a chance to circle back on it | 15:16 |
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| marcoceppi | hazmat: question about deployer using the -o flag. If a charm doesn't have that key that I'm overriding will it fail or will it just press on? | 15:47 |
| marcoceppi | I'm assuming the latter, but just want to confirm | 15:47 |
| frankban | rbasak: we just released a new version of juju-quickstart: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/juju-quickstart | 15:50 |
| rbasak | frankban: thanks! We're in feature freeze now though. We need an exception I guess? | 16:04 |
| frankban | rbasak: I think we already asked for an exception, rick_h_ ^^^ | 16:05 |
| rick_h_ | rbasak: yes, there's an existing exception, sec I'll get the link | 16:05 |
| rbasak | I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-quickstart/+bug/1282630 | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-quickstart/+bug/1282630 | 16:06 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1282630: [FFE] remove sudo support <juju-quickstart (Ubuntu):New> <juju-quickstart (Ubuntu Trusty):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282630> | 16:06 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1282630: [FFE] remove sudo support <juju-quickstart (Ubuntu):New> <juju-quickstart (Ubuntu Trusty):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282630> | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | yep | 16:06 |
| rbasak | That's to drop sudo support though, not for a new upstream release. | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | it ended up juju released an interim release that has our support and we don't need to wait for 1.18 | 16:06 |
| rbasak | I don't see a problem getting an FFe for a new upstream release, but we probably need to modify that existing one or something. | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | rbasak: sorry, this release drops the sudo support since 1.17.6 has the fixes we needed that were originally targeted at 1.18 | 16:07 |
| rbasak | And explain what exactly changed, etc. | 16:07 |
| rbasak | rick_h_: please could you document that in the bug? Then we'll need a release team ack. | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | rbasak: ok will do | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | frankban: can you catagog the fix in there and mention the retarget from 1.18 to 1.17.6 | 16:07 |
| frankban | rick_h_: sure | 16:08 |
| rbasak | frankban: a summary of everything that changed from the previous release, please. | 16:08 |
| frankban | rbasak: will do | 16:09 |
| jcastro | hey guys, so mbruzek and I are modifying a charm for a local deployment | 16:15 |
| mbruzek | but we are still seeing the old hook get run. | 16:16 |
| jcastro | how do we increment the charm version? juju always wants to deploy the charm without our local changes | 16:16 |
| jcastro | we've tried `juju deploy -u` | 16:16 |
| Fishy__ | delete charm cache if you want to be sure ? | 16:16 |
| jcastro | do we just bump `revision` up manually? | 16:16 |
| jcastro | the -u is what clears the cache afaict | 16:17 |
| jose | jcastro: I always have to destroy my environment and bootstrap again when doing that, if you have a clue it'd be nice to know | 16:19 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: what version juju? | 16:20 |
| marcoceppi | 1.17 or 1.16? | 16:20 |
| jcastro | yeah we've done that, I am suspecting our JUJU_REPOSITORY is pointing to the wrong place | 16:20 |
| jcastro | 1.17 | 16:20 |
| jose | oh, bah, I'm using 1.16 | 16:21 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: then -u is being depricated and not needed | 16:21 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: are you switching from charmstore to local? | 16:21 |
| jcastro | yeah | 16:21 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: or has this always been local? | 16:21 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: have you used --switch yet? | 16:21 |
| jcastro | no | 16:21 |
| jcastro | it's always been local | 16:21 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: ah, okay | 16:22 |
| jcastro | so basically, we are editing the charm on disk | 16:22 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: what does juju status show the charm revision at? | 16:22 |
| jcastro | 5 | 16:22 |
| jcastro | it's supposed to be 6 | 16:22 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: is revision file set to 6? | 16:22 |
| jcastro | it is now | 16:22 |
| jcastro | it was not before | 16:22 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: try doing upgrade-charm now | 16:22 |
| marcoceppi | if that doesn't work then your JUJU_REPOSITORY might not be set properly, but juju should have complained about that | 16:22 |
| jcastro | found the issue | 16:24 |
| jcastro | we were deploying from the pristine upstream charm, and not from our local repository where we made the changes | 16:25 |
| jcastro | jose, juju upgrade-charm normally is what you do | 16:25 |
| jose | jcastro: even if there's no upgrade-charm hook? | 16:25 |
| jcastro | I'll let you know next time, already started over | 16:27 |
| lazyPower | jose: who am I meeting with re: open week presentation in :30? | 16:27 |
| jose | lazyPower: that's in a month still | 16:28 |
| lazyPower | wat | 16:28 |
| jose | :P | 16:28 |
| jose | 22 April at 18 UTC | 16:28 |
| lazyPower | i thought it was today! | 16:28 |
| lazyPower | WOW | 16:28 |
| lazyPower | clearly I'm on-the-ball | 16:28 |
| jose | we like to plan things with time :) | 16:28 |
| lazyPower | and i see on the table on the wiki page, i was anticipating this being shoot from the hip | 16:29 |
| lazyPower | awesome | 16:29 |
| jose | I'll still get to all of you guys who will be presenting to let you know who your contact during the event will be | 16:29 |
| jose | I haven't got my university schedule yet, so I can't promise anything | 16:30 |
| lazyPower | jose: welp the fact its not today buys me tons of time. Roger dodger | 16:30 |
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| jose | maybe some time to promulgate the mailman charm? :P | 16:31 |
| jose | jk | 16:31 |
| lazyPower | Your review will be before I EOD :) | 16:31 |
| lazyPower | you've waited patiently | 16:31 |
| lazyPower | that has merit in my book | 16:31 |
| jose | \o/ | 16:31 |
| jose | well, I'll continue looking into this reddit charm, install hook fails :P | 16:32 |
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| jamespage | marcoceppi, you rock - thanks for the reviews and merges today! | 16:48 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi, found the problem | 16:48 |
| jcastro | you won't believe it | 16:48 |
| jcastro | https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/34/files | 16:48 |
| jcastro | It's forgettable enough that I felt the need to write it down | 16:49 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: wat | 16:49 |
| jcastro | yeah | 16:49 |
| jcastro | our hooks were all files | 16:49 |
| jcastro | because scp follows links, it doesn't copy them over | 16:49 |
| jcastro | so any charm you copy over with scp that has symlinks for hooks = ouch | 16:49 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: interesting | 16:49 |
| jcastro | you need to either rsync or tar-then-scp | 16:49 |
| marcoceppi | rsync ftw | 16:50 |
| Fishy__ | cobbler is ruining my life | 16:58 |
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| jose | Pagekite charm submitted! | 17:42 |
| lazyPower | interesting solution | 17:51 |
| lazyPower | bookmarking pagekite for later reference | 17:51 |
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| Fishy__ | should I worry about this | 18:36 |
| Fishy__ | juju bootstrap WARNING no tools available, attempting to retrieve from https://juju-dist.s3.amazonaws.com/ WARNING picked arbitrary tools &{"1.16.6-precise-amd64" "http://192.168.4.1/MAAS/api/1.0/files/?key=55dd93f8-b44c-11e3-ac66-7054d2ab7b42&op=get_by_key" "60a008598b13effa46ee50fa13bbe9601ad1018bbb5d9eda379f117e14f145ec" %!q(int64=4666968)} | 18:37 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy__: no, that's just a warning | 18:51 |
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| === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob | ||
| * zchander won't be scripting/hacking/copying/coding tonight. Just relaxing on the couch with a PS3 controller in my hands ;) | 19:12 | |
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| Fishy | Do I need a certain # of nodes enlisted before I can use juju maas? | 19:23 |
| Fishy | I have 1 now and status fails | 19:23 |
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| marcoceppi | Fishy: you need probably two nodes | 19:30 |
| marcoceppi | one for bootstrap | 19:30 |
| marcoceppi | one for a service | 19:30 |
| Fishy | bummer | 19:33 |
| Fishy | can I make local LXC nodes and have them enlist with maas? | 19:34 |
| Fishy | running out of space to put laptops on my desk | 19:34 |
| Fishy | + i dont want to waste hardware nodes for bootstrap | 19:34 |
| Fishy | want them LXCs i would think | 19:34 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy: not lxc, but qemu/kvm, yes | 19:36 |
| Fishy | virtual box? | 19:42 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy: no, not really | 19:44 |
| marcoceppi | virtual box and MAAS don't work together very well | 19:44 |
| Fishy | bah | 19:44 |
| sarnold | virtualbox's main selling point seemed to be that you got something slightly better than vnc for graphics... | 19:45 |
| Fishy | yah I can just point and click admin it in 30 seconds | 19:45 |
| sarnold | you don't really care about graphics in this case, right? might as well pick the more stable / easier / lighter-weight kvm.. | 19:45 |
| tvansteenburgh | wwitzel3, you're doing maas with virtualbox aren't you? | 19:45 |
| Fishy | in the past week I have already learned openVZ and LXC | 19:45 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy: there's a GUI tool for KVM if you want to try that | 19:45 |
| Fishy | trying to avoid a 3rd VM provider ;) | 19:46 |
| marcoceppi | OpenVZ isn't very good because it relies on an older kernel | 19:46 |
| Fishy | ya we want to get rid of it | 19:46 |
| marcoceppi | Virtuozzo, their commercial product, is much better | 19:46 |
| Fishy | but some old stuff is on it | 19:46 |
| marcoceppi | there's virt-manager or somethign like that, which is a GUI to qemu/kvm | 19:46 |
| marcoceppi | it's like virtualbox, only better ;) | 19:46 |
| marcoceppi | qemu/kvm at least, and it's compatibile with MAAS | 19:47 |
| Fishy | ok, installing | 19:47 |
| Fishy | qemu and kvm are the same thing? | 19:48 |
| marcoceppi | well, for now yes | 19:48 |
| marcoceppi | qemu is a generic machine emulator, kvm is the underlying provisioner | 19:48 |
| marcoceppi | so, MAAS can talk to QEMU which can talk to KVM, and virt-manager is the GUI to create KVM machines | 19:49 |
| marcoceppi | KVM virtual machines are isolated like virtualbox machines, so you have that full level of virtualization | 19:49 |
| marcoceppi | it's just a chain of tools to do stuff | 19:49 |
| Fishy | so i need to make a bridge | 19:51 |
| Fishy | heavy | 19:51 |
| Fishy | nat wont do pxe | 19:52 |
| Fishy | boo | 19:52 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy: it's not that heavy | 19:52 |
| marcoceppi | QEMU/KVM think of it as one tool | 19:52 |
| marcoceppi | it's your virtualizer | 19:53 |
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| Fishy | maas keeps shutting off my servers (that are enlisted but not yet in use) | 21:24 |
| Fishy | how rude | 21:24 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy: that's by design :) | 21:29 |
| Fishy | and the idea is to use WOL when they are needed? | 21:30 |
| marcoceppi | WOL or whatever power management tool, IMPI, AMT, QEMU, etc | 21:30 |
| Fishy | heres to hoping one of them works ;) | 21:31 |
| Fishy | went up from 1 node to 3 nodes, juju status still never returns | 21:31 |
| Fishy | ok after 10 mins says | 21:34 |
| Fishy | Error details: no reachable servers | 21:34 |
| Fishy | which seems to mean the WOL or whatever doesn't work | 21:35 |
| marcoceppi | Fishy: does the machine in MAAS work with WOL? | 21:37 |
| Fishy | 1 laptop and 2 kvm VMs | 21:38 |
| Fishy | see no reason why it wouldnt | 21:38 |
| Fishy | enabled in laptop bios | 21:38 |
| jose | marcoceppi: hey, it's good if I submit patches to the proof errors that are in the review queue? | 21:44 |
| marcoceppi | jose: totally! | 21:45 |
| jose | cool then, working on a couple atm :) | 21:45 |
| === tris- is now known as tris | ||
| jose | will file bugs too | 21:45 |
| marcoceppi | jose: \o/ | 21:46 |
| lazyPower | jose: YES!!! | 21:53 |
| lazyPower | that would be amazing | 21:53 |
| jose | lazyPower: well, I have some spare time before starting university and I'm a bit tired of checking and checking the reddit charm without results, so I'll do that instead :) | 21:54 |
| jose | about the store errors, I can't do much - I can give you a clue that the postfix and mailman ones are because I changed my username | 21:54 |
| snewpy | is there a way to get the remote unit's IP address during a relation-joined event without specifically passing it as a relation property? | 21:58 |
| jose | snewpy: I believe `relation-get private-address` gives you that info | 21:59 |
| snewpy | awesome, thx! | 22:01 |
| jose | lazyPower, marcoceppi: tells me that I don't have permissions to make an MP? | 22:06 |
| marcoceppi | jose: how are you trying to propose merge? | 22:07 |
| jose | marcoceppi: with an MP | 22:07 |
| jose | or should it be done via a bug? (also filed one) | 22:07 |
| marcoceppi | jose: that clears it up perfectly! | 22:07 |
| jose | huh? | 22:08 |
| marcoceppi | jose: so, what are the targets for the MP | 22:08 |
| marcoceppi | I'm trying to figure out why it's failing | 22:08 |
| jose | lp:charms/assaultcube | 22:08 |
| jose | and lp:~jose/charms/precise/assaultcube/1297529-fix is the proposed branch | 22:08 |
| marcoceppi | huh, jose can we jump on a hangout so I can see your screen? | 22:09 |
| jose | sure! | 22:09 |
| marcoceppi | jose: one sec | 22:09 |
| jose | marcoceppi: I see a problem on the charm, does config.yaml allow a name that's 2 characters long? | 22:40 |
| jose | or there needs to be a minimum? | 22:40 |
| marcoceppi | jose: no | 22:40 |
| jose | what's the minimum? | 22:40 |
| marcoceppi | needs to be more than two characters, that's a yaml limitation | 22:40 |
| marcoceppi | 3 | 22:40 |
| jose | ok, thanks | 22:40 |
| lazyPower | hey jose, i see you have the mailman charm listed as depends on: lp:~jose/charms/precise/postfix/trunk | 22:42 |
| lazyPower | but there's no relationship for this dependency - was it planned but not implemented? | 22:42 |
| jose | lazyPower: oh, that's not the case anymore | 22:42 |
| jose | correct | 22:43 |
| lazyPower | ack. I'll disregard | 22:43 |
| jose | thanks :) | 22:43 |
| === CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob|Away | ||
| jose | hey guys, what should I do with a charm which has no maintainer? set the maintainer to charmers? | 23:42 |
| lazyPower | jose: file a bug for needs maintainer against the charm | 23:51 |
| jose | ok, in the meanwhile I'll fix the other stuff | 23:52 |
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