ScottKyofel and Riddell: I added all the ones that are in the archive to the packageset (zeroconf-ioslave is not).00:19
* ahoneybun updates his macbook to beta 200:57
SonikkuAmericaQuick question: How long is 14.04 being supported for, 3 years or 5?03:01
ScottKSonikkuAmerica: 503:02
SonikkuAmericaScottK: Thank you03:02
SonikkuAmericaAlso, do you know about our new one-stop page in development, KubuntuLinks?03:02
SonikkuAmericahttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuLinks <<< We're building a one-page landing where we have a jumping-off place for all things Kubuntu. You can check on what we're trying to build off off at LubuntuLinks and the Ubuntu GNOME One Stop Page (links are on the KubuntuLinks page)03:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: bug 129713908:38
ubottubug 1297139 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "startkde qdbus invocation broken when both qt4 and qt5 are installed" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129713908:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: ack09:35
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1297139] startkde qdbus invocation broken when both qt4 and qt5 are installed @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1297139 (by Harald Sitter)09:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: you know, had you written a model for drivermanager it probably would have needed no refactoring xD09:44
apacheloggerwhat I am doing is moving the management components out of module.cpp09:44
apacheloggerso really, we should just have initially gone with a model then that would have been separate all along ^^09:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7150443/09:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: why two lines?09:56
shadeslayerstandard convention in startkde as I see09:57
shadeslayer        XCURSOR_THEME=default09:57
shadeslayer        export XCURSOR_THEME09:57
kdeuser56have a look at that trace of kdeinit4: http://pastebin.com/ubvcXtKw09:58
kdeuser56very weird ... looks like kcrash also crashed? 09:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: so you are upstreaming?09:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: this patch? lolno09:59
apacheloggerwhat does it matter then? :P09:59
shadeslayersome variation of this probably09:59
shadeslayer*shrug* fine 09:59
shadeslayerI don't care if its one way or the other09:59
apacheloggerit's not like that script is a shining example of consistent or good shell practise ;)10:00
shadeslayerI just thought it'd be better to have it consistend with the rest of startkde10:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: like that other patch we do one-line export in? ^^10:00
apachelogger    export KDEDIRS=/usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/10:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7150476/10:01
apacheloggerI am not even sure why it does it over two lines, when I implemented a shell some years ago I think the posix spec even said that export will set the variable10:01
apacheloggerso, in terms of a posix shell export foo=bar is equal to foo=bar, export just adds the additional feature of the variable being replicated into children's envrionment10:03
apacheloggermaybe I am misremebering, who knows10:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: uploaded10:05
apacheloggerVariables shall be initialized from the environment (as defined by XBD Environment Variables and the exec function in the System Interfaces volume of POSIX.1-2008) and can be given new values with variable assignment commands. If a variable is initialized from the environment, it shall be marked for export immediately; see the export special built-in. New variables can be defined and initialized with variable assignments, with the read or 10:05
apacheloggergetopts utilities, with the name parameter in a for loop, with the ${ name= word} expansion, or with other mechanisms provided as implementation extensions.10:05
apacheloggerThe shell shall give the export attribute to the variables corresponding to the specified names, which shall cause them to be in the environment of subsequently executed commands. If the name of a variable is followed by = word, then the value of that variable shall be set to word.10:05
apacheloggerIf a variable assignment precedes the command name of export but that variable is not also listed as an operand of export, then that variable shall be set in the current shell execution environment after the completion of the export command, but it is unspecified whether that variable is marked for export.10:05
shadeslayerRiddell: ScottK: can you approve kde-workspace ?10:06
apacheloggerso yeah, foo=bar\n export foo is a bit of a silly way to write it10:06
apachelogger"the shell shall" is fancy tho ^^10:07
apacheloggeranyway, complete read in case someone is interested http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html10:08
apacheloggershadeslayer: I am wondering whether it would be worth equipping the class Driver with a Package *10:09
apacheloggerthus removing all QApt interaction from DriverWidget10:09
shadeslayerPackage * ?10:09
apacheloggerA package pointer10:09
apacheloggeralso move the is active logic outside10:10
apacheloggerso driverwidget really just needs to iter all drivers and create appropriate widgets10:10
shadeslayerquite a bit of refactoring10:12
Riddellshadeslayer: what's new?10:13
shadeslayerRiddell: fix for bug 129713910:13
ubottubug 1297139 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "startkde qdbus invocation broken when both qt4 and qt5 are installed" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129713910:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: you made the driverwidget contain processing logic :P10:13
apacheloggeractually it isn't much though10:13
apacheloggerDW::isActive goes away, moves outside class, ctor gets changed to not use qapt, but instead do a property check10:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: are you sure that driverwidget currently contains the same logic to find the active driver as the gtk gui?10:23
shadeslayernot exactly the same I think10:24
* apachelogger thought that used an order rather than a first-match10:24
shadeslayerbut quite close10:24
shadeslayerand mine uses an order too10:24
apacheloggerah yeah, manualinstall always trumps10:25
shadeslayermanualinstall > proprietary > opensource10:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: why is manual bound to qapt finding a package though?10:26
apacheloggeryou don't trust the backend? :P10:27
shadeslayeris it?10:27
apacheloggerif package {} else { if (driver.manual) }10:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah I suppose it could be done like : if package && !driver.manual10:28
apacheloggerbut why is that dependent on package at all?10:30
shadeslayerbecause QApt sometimes returns null ptrs to packages10:30
apacheloggeryes, but what does that have to do with whether the driver the is manual or not10:31
shadeslayerah so you mean if driver.manual { } else if package {}10:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah10:38
shadeslayersure, looks fine10:39
apacheloggermuch fun has been had10:50
apacheloggeroh 10:55
apacheloggerI just got reminded that chose to ignore broken l10n10:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7150658/ that does not work btw10:57
apacheloggerthere's langauges that parse right-to-left ;)10:58
apacheloggerso you appending on the right will make for silly localization10:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: what's supposed to happen when a driver is not installed manual but qapt still doesn't manage to find a package?11:19
apacheloggernot create a button?11:20
shadeslayerbecause it would be impossible to do anything with it11:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: while you're refactoring, maybe you could come up with a sane way to handle the case where there is exactly one driver for the device11:21
apacheloggershadeslayer: does that happen?11:23
apacheloggerI'd rather think that would be handled in ubuntu-drivers-common11:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: tell the pitti to not report such devices :P11:24
apacheloggerits a pointless11:25
shadeslayerhow so11:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: actually, I think it's a bug that my device only reports one driver11:25
shadeslayerwhen infact it has 211:25
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1254276] qt4-linguist-tools should depend on qtchooser @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1254276 (by Daniel Lintott)11:25
shadeslayerlinux-firmware-nonfree and b4311:26
apacheloggermaybe qapt scrus up11:26
shadeslayerubuntu-driver list only shows one11:26
apacheloggerkcmshell(7874) DriverWidget::DriverWidget: encountered invalid driver 0x0 false for "GK104 [GeForce GTX 660 OEM]" 11:26
apacheloggerI broke it11:26
shadeslayerstaph breaking it :(11:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, bug in the commons thing then11:27
apacheloggeroh lol, I know why ^^11:27
apacheloggerforeaching is quite the pain without pointers :'<11:30
apacheloggerI think the refactored code might need a refactoring ^^11:34
apacheloggerthat got spooky very quickly11:34
apacheloggeron the plus side it's working as expected and didn't need pointers11:35
apacheloggerwhy the qapt includes are in LibQApt/ rather than QApt/ is the greatest question of all time11:39
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:44
Riddellanyone got amarok working with gstreamer 1.0 backend?11:47
Riddellah yes got it working11:50
yofelworked for me after I got the new qtwebkit11:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: Q: why are xapian failures handled seperately from init errors in terms of the UI?12:07
apacheloggermust be at lunchen12:13
* apachelogger waves the fist12:13
sgclarkRiddell: any tasks for me today?12:35
Riddellsgclark: whole new calligra for the packaging if you think you can handle it12:37
Riddellsgclark: including backporting to saucy12:38
sgclarkRiddell: only one way to learn :) will need help with backport bit12:38
sgclarkIn debian/watch no matching files for watch line , where is it?12:40
sgclarkRiddell: ^12:41
Riddellsgclark: oh it's probably still not public12:44
Riddellsgclark: scp ftpubuntu@depot.kde.org:stable/calligra-2.8.1/*xz .12:45
Riddellalso calligra-l10n to be packaged too, which is a real fiddle12:45
jussiIm getting browser-plugin-vlc crashes on 14.04 - anyone else getting those? 12:45
Riddellum, shouldn't do?12:49
jussiannoying thing is it doesnt give me apport or anything to report the bug12:50
apacheloggerjussi: activate apport notifications then :P12:56
jussiapachelogger: how? 12:56
apacheloggerthe opposite of how you deactivated them I guess12:56
jussiapachelogger: its a pretty much brand new install...12:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah, went off for lunch13:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: no real reason, just being verbose I guess13:03
apacheloggerjussi: something must be astray then13:04
apacheloggerjussi: are you sure apport is enabled though? /etc/default/apport13:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: btw, you can connect signals to signals ;)13:04
jussiapachelogger: Ill look13:05
shadeslayerRiddell: btw moving to gst 1.0 will break ktp call ui13:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: changed tracking is epically broken btw13:05
kubotushadeslayer meant: "Riddell: btw moving to gst 1.0 might break ktp call ui"13:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes :(13:06
apacheloggerthe slot checking for changedness in driverwidget actually changes the reference value, as though it was saved which of course it wasnt13:06
apacheloggermost peculiar13:06
Riddellshadeslayer: hmm so it's a choice of auto-install + ktp call ui  vs  ugly codecs ?13:07
* apachelogger broke sorting somehow13:08
shadeslayerRiddell: no it's a choice between : having a untested port , which might cause applications like call ui to stop working but gets us out of the codec situation vs a codec situation vs landing pvlc 13:09
shadeslayertake your pick13:09
ScottKshadeslayer: I'll be offline ~all day, so don't count on me to approve anything for at least 10 hours.13:09
shadeslayerScottK: ok13:09
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jussiapachelogger: its enabled (set to 1)13:14
apacheloggerthen I dunno13:15
apacheloggerjussi: do you have a crash file in /var/crash13:15
jussiapachelogger: actually, yes, I do13:16
apacheloggerthen it should have a notification13:17
* apachelogger cries13:17
jussiso by crashing something else Ive triggered another bug? 13:18
* jussi cries13:18
apacheloggerjussi: kdebugdialog -> enable all -> logout -> login -> wait a minute -> paste .cache/upstart/startkde.log13:18
apacheloggerjussi: also13:18
apacheloggerdoes the crash file have a file with the same name and .upload or .uploaded appended?13:19
jussionly 1 file in /var/crash13:19
jussiapachelogger: pm'ed it to you13:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: Q: what exactly happnes if I have nvidia binarily installed and switch to nuvoulyuluo13:25
apacheloggerjussi: well, the good news is there is no output, the bad news is there is no output13:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: it installs the nouveau driver .... but doesn't remove the nvidia one13:26
apacheloggerjussi: oh, actually, you might have to wait up to 5 minutes13:26
apacheloggerthere's a timer somewhere13:26
shadeslayerI suspect it keeps nvida active in that case :/13:26
shadeslayerlets try13:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: #logicfail13:26
shadeslayeroh wait, my kcm is still broken13:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes :/13:27
apacheloggerrow row row ye boat gently over the seas, and if you see a kraken spawn don't forget to scream13:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: what does the gtk thingum do13:29
shadeslayergtk thingum?13:29
apacheloggerthe gtk gui13:29
shadeslayerdon't remember off the top of my head13:29
* shadeslayer looks13:30
jussiapachelogger: any better? 13:31
apacheloggerjussi: nay13:32
apacheloggerjussi: alt-f2 -> kded -> in the bottom list make sure notifiction helper is actually started13:32
apacheloggeralas, I think it creates no output if there's nothing to talk about13:32
apacheloggerso it may simply not want to process the file13:32
apachelogger!info kubuntu-driver-manager trusty13:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pdnrvs0qk13:33
ubottukubuntu-driver-manager (source: kubuntu-driver-manager): Driver Manager for Kubuntu. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.04ubuntu3 (trusty), package size 24 kB, installed size 129 kB13:33
jussinotification helper is started13:33
apacheloggershadeslayer: right13:33
shadeslayerso removes the package13:34
* shadeslayer rages at pam13:37
apacheloggerjussi: paste again13:39
apacheloggerjussi: are you sure you enabled everything in kdebugdialog?13:39
apacheloggerjussi: you are on trusty, right?13:39
apachelogger!info kubuntu-notification-helper trusty13:39
ubottukubuntu-notification-helper (source: kubuntu-notification-helper): Kubuntu system notification helper. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.04ubuntu8 (trusty), package size 53 kB, installed size 268 kB13:39
jussiapachelogger: yes13:40
apachelogger    kDebug() << "ApportEvent ::"13:40
apacheloggerthere should be debug output regardless of whether it actually will process the files13:40
shadeslayerRiddell: can you reset my password on qa.kubuntu.co.uk?13:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: please test the master13:45
apacheloggerstill doesn't remove stuff yet13:45
shadeslayerapachelogger:   driver("nvidia-331-updates" recommended[false] free[false] fromDistro[true] builtin[false] manualInstall[false] fuzzyActive[false] package[0x0])13:47
shadeslayerthat 0x0 doesn't look good13:47
shadeslayerclicking apply doesn't do anything13:47
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1297139] startkde qdbus invocation broken when both qt4 and qt5 are installed @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1297139 (by Harald Sitter)13:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: huh13:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: doesn't want to change anything then :P13:51
jussiapachelogger: err, what is it you want me to do? 13:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: oh, me stupid13:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: forgot to actually the function ^^13:57
apacheloggerjussi: wait for the log to contain ApportEvent13:57
apacheloggerif it doesn't then your setup is broken somehow13:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: pull14:09
shadeslayeryeah works now14:09
shadeslayer"fix the actual, ehm, management, the manager is, ehm, supposed to do.." :P14:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw what does kubuntu-notification-helper check for reboots?14:13
apacheloggeran asortment of files14:16
shadeslayerwhich ones14:16
apacheloggerread the source14:16
apacheloggersrc/daemon/rebootevent/rebootevent.cpp:    if (!QFile::exists("/var/run/reboot-required") && !kdelibsChanged)14:17
apacheloggersrc/daemon/rebootevent/rebootevent.cpp:    QFile file("/var/run/reboot-required-kdelibs");14:17
apacheloggerthat was very hard14:18
apacheloggertook me one cd and a grep14:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: give that kcm a testero please14:18
apacheloggerI cannot test debconf etc.14:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: works on nvidia machine14:18
shadeslayerI can change drivers, shows correct drivers after change14:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: I vaguely recal that it used to inform the user via the kcm to reboot14:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: what? no?14:21
apacheloggerphonon kcm tells the user to logout and login14:21
apacheloggerbut I don't think there is any KCM that notifies about reboots14:21
apacheloggerconsidering that's a system level thing I doubt KCMs have much business talking about that :P14:21
apacheloggeris launchpad broken?14:24
apacheloggerI have a number of builds stuck in queue for 6 hours14:25
apacheloggerand they keep saying they will start in like 30 minutes14:25
shadeslayerI uploaded KDE 4.13 for Saucy14:25
shadeslayerwhich would explain it14:25
apacheloggerah, I guess14:25
shadeslayeron that note14:25
apacheloggerstill odd that the queue estimate is so rubbish14:25
shadeslayerRiddell: can you plz change my password for qa.kubuntu.co.uk14:25
apacheloggerI mean "starting in 30 minutes" for 6 hours I have not seen before ^^14:26
apachelogger"starting in 6 hours" OTOH I have seen :P14:26
shadeslayerI see > 700 jobs for 25 builders14:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: whats your user14:26
shadeslayerso I have PAM somewhat working, I've figured out where all the configs and what not go14:31
shadeslayerbut there be bugs14:31
apacheloggershadeslayer: what I don't get, why can the kmessagewidgets be closed14:35
apacheloggerit's not like the user would get anything from closing them as they go away on their own anyway14:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: please be releasing master14:36
shadeslayerPAM is blocked till next week14:38
shadeslayerRiddell: might want to approve kubuntu-driver-manager14:42
shadeslayeralso, FYI http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.95_saucy.html14:44
apacheloggeractually I think driver-manager can wait14:46
shadeslayeralready uploaded14:46
apacheloggernot critical for b2 IMO14:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah, it can sit in the queue14:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: fwiw we still don't have ISO's14:47
shadeslayerso I think it's fine14:47
apacheloggerwhatever works :P14:47
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: in case I forgot to ask last week, where are we on the wordpress migration ;)14:48
shadeslayer+        //  b) set driver.fuzzyActive, see blow14:48
* apachelogger wonders what to write about 4.13b114:49
shadeslayerit's magic14:49
apacheloggerhow? :P14:50
apacheloggerthere's a whole comment block explaining how the activity order works :P14:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7-fZJaJUv814:50
apacheloggerdo we have ktp 0.8 final yet?14:50
shadeslayermagic ^^14:50
apacheloggershadeslayer: that's what you get for not sticking to your original design14:53
apacheloggerplasma is not a file manager, neither is the folderview plasmoid, allowing it to go anywhere near the domain of doing file management is shooting yourself in the foot14:54
apacheloggerso that's why there's that video14:54
apacheloggerbecause people have grand design ideas, then don't stick to them and then stuff ends up being weirdly patched together nonesense because it was not in the original grand design ideas14:55
* apachelogger looks for something to eat14:55
shadeslayerplasma's design looks delicious :P14:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://download.kde.org/stable/kde-telepathy/0.8.0/src/15:03
shadeslayerbeen up for a week15:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: do we have it in the archive tho?15:08
apacheloggerparently not 15:08
apacheloggerVersion: 0.7.80ubuntu115:08
apacheloggerkubotu: newversion kde-telepathy 0.8.015:09
kubotuPackage kde-telepathy doesn't exist yet!15:09
apacheloggerkubotu: newversion meta-kde-telepathy 0.8.015:09
shadeslayerthere was no announcement15:11
apacheloggerwell that is rude15:20
apacheloggerd_ed: is there a reason ktp 0.8 was not announced?15:20
shadeslayerd_ed was on vacation15:21
shadeslayerpoke mck18215:21
apacheloggerSput: when is 0.10 final due?15:27
apacheloggershadeslayer, Riddell: beta2 updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta2/Kubuntu15:40
apacheloggerI pulled the 4.13 description out of my nose15:40
apacheloggerbug section will need doing15:40
apacheloggeralthough to be honest, I think listing the bugs when there is a link to the lunchpad filter seems a bit of a waste of time15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1292471 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Missing locale notification does not inform about package" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:42
sgclarkCan I put stuff in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/view/head:/lintian-ignore.json lintian overrides to clean up? 16:04
sgclarkRiddell: or anyone with answer16:04
shadeslayersgclark: sure, but what do you want to clear up?16:10
sgclarkshadeslayer: rebuilding, will paste the list for approval before I make the overrides16:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: anything off the top of your head that needs doing?16:17
Riddellapachelogger: lovely, thanks17:20
Riddellshadeslayer: beta testing!17:20
Riddellshadeslayer: can't you change your own password on qa.kubuntu.co.uk ?17:20
Riddellsgclark: getting on ok?17:30
sgclarkRiddell: yep :0 I need to know if these are ok to put in overrides or need investigation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7152244/17:31
sgclarkRiddell: also http://paste.ubuntu.com/7152258/17:33
* Riddell looks17:34
Riddellsgclark: for the first one http://paste.ubuntu.com/7152244/ the only one I think I'd not include is icon-size-and-directory-name-mismatch since I would like those fixed upstream17:37
sgclarkRiddell: ok, I can fix those in my off time as well.17:38
Riddellsgclark: thanks :)17:38
Riddellsgclark: libkdeinit4_calligrawords.so I'm not really sure but it seems to be listed in both calligrawords-common.install and calligrawords.install when it shouldn't be in either17:39
Riddellbut maybe it's listed in both because dh_movelibkdeinit doesn't handle it17:39
RiddellI'd remove it from calligrawords-common.install at least17:40
Riddelland see if it sorts itself when removed from calligrawords.install17:40
Riddellalthough that would need another compile which will take another age to do so don't worry if it's too much17:40
sgclarkI really don't mind at all17:40
sgclarkRiddell: anything else need attention?17:44
sgclarkRiddell: image-file-in-usr-lib ok to override?17:45
soeei se gstreamer in updates and it is going to ne installed not update it wasnt here by default before ?17:46
Riddellsgclark: yeah I think that's what we have to do with QML17:52
Riddellsoee: now gstreamer1.0 not gstreamer0.1017:52
soeeRiddell: any important chnage sor just version number ?17:53
Riddellwhole different API17:54
Riddellsoee: so do test it17:54
sgclarkRiddell: all these package-name-doesnt-match-sonames safe to override?17:56
Riddellsgclark: yes I think so, lintian likes a library to be in its own package but often that's overkill17:57
Riddelland since we don't install the library headers nothing can use it anyway17:57
sgclarklol yeah, that would certainly be the case here17:57
Riddellsgclark: by the way new KF5 due on Friday18:05
Riddellsgclark: then the Plasma release which was due a couple of weeks ago is now due next week (and I think I'm the release manager)18:05
sgclarkRiddell: ok, I will be out of town Saturday -Monday, will bring my laptop and try to do some. Can't promise though have no idea on connection.18:06
sgclarkRiddell: will be fully available Tues+ though18:06
Riddellsgclark: lovely18:07
sgclarklooking forward to plasma :)18:08
sgclarkRiddell: how about these? calligraplan: unusual-interpreter #!kross18:12
Riddellsgclark: kross is an unusual interpreter but a perfectly valid one :)18:13
Riddellit's part of kdelibs and makes it easy to add scripting interfaces to your apps that can be used from python, ruby etc18:14
Riddellbut I think only calligra uses it18:14
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sgclarkRiddell: this one? calligraplan: jar-not-in-usr-share 18:15
sgclarkRiddell: and finally: 4 outdated-autotools-helper-file 3rdparty/google-breakpad18:16
yofelarchitecture independent files should usually be in /usr/share/ and as java isn't fully compiled that counts for jars too - not really important though18:16
Riddellsgclark: fixing the jar issue would mean working out how that calligra plugin looks and find the .jar file and fixing it, beyond what I want to do since it doesn't cause any problems having it in /usr/lib18:17
sgclarkRiddell: ok I will leave as lintian error in case someone wants to look at it at a later time. 18:18
sgclarkwhat about the last outdated-autotools18:18
Riddellsgclark: and we can't really update those autotool files since it's just a fork of a 3rd party project, would need to get google-breakpad to update its files but I presume there's a reason they need to work it like google-breakpad not being a very open project18:19
sgclarkok, leaving that as well18:19
sgclarkThanks! rebuilding now18:19
sgclarkRiddell: or yofel: err one last item: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7152438/18:22
shadeslayerRiddell: I forgot my current password18:31
shadeslayerI had it stored as a encrypted file on my disk18:31
shadeslayerbut Apple formatted my computer18:32
yofelsgclark: that should preferably be fixed... even if it won't cause problems most of the time18:32
yofelshadeslayer: I know I probably sound totally annoying, but ever heard of "backups" =P18:33
shadeslayerI forgot to back that particular thing up :P18:33
shadeslayerI have everything else18:33
shadeslayerapart from .zshrc and some passwords18:33
yofeloh well, that's something at least ^^18:33
shadeslayeroh right, no .pbuilderrc too xD18:34
Riddellshadeslayer: don't you have an ssh key?18:35
shadeslayerRiddell: yes, but required sudo priviliges to switch to the kubuntu user18:35
Sputapachelogger: today18:42
shadeslayerI shall do testing tomorrow18:42
shadeslayerif there's testing to be done :)18:42
Sputapachelogger: tagging and tarballing at least; don't think I feel like writing release announcements tonight :P18:45
Riddellshadeslayer: lots of beta testing needed, although a respin needed first for your driver-manager update18:45
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=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
Sputapachelogger: http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.9.3.tar.bz2 http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.10.0.tar.bz2 and ScottK pinged23:05
ScottKIt will be later tonight before I can look.23:06
ScottKRiddell: If you want ^^^ in for beta 2, someone else will probably need to package it.23:07
SputScottK: yeah, sorry, took a few hours longer than I hoped :/23:11
Sputthen again, should still be two days until the freeze?23:12
RiddellSput: what's the difference between the two23:52
SputRiddell: 0.10.0 is a feature release, and the other one is the last bugfix release for 0.9 (it contains the fixes from 0.10, but no new features)23:55
Sput0.9.3 is useful for distros which believe in this stable release and feature freeze thingy :)23:56

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