| alteregoa | those DRM-Intel kernels are for intel cpu only? or do they support Radeon too? | 00:29 |
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| rww | one would presume they're for Intel GPUs | 00:30 |
| rww | perhaps you should ask the person who made them? | 00:30 |
| Daekdroom | !mainline | 00:30 |
| ubottu | The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds | 00:30 |
| Daekdroom | drm-intel- is interesting for those that need new features from the DRM for Intel cards. | 00:31 |
| Daekdroom | drm-next I think is for Radeon cards, possibly Nvidia opensource drivers, but I'm not sure about that. | 00:31 |
| alteregoa | for my opinion drm should be the way to go for future desktop ubuntu versions, people don't have to fiddle around with GPU acceleration, it just works... | 00:39 |
| Daekdroom | I'm not sure I understand you. Both closed-source binaries (which do not use DRM, despite complying with DRI) and open-source drivers (DRM+ DRI) use GPU acceleration. | 00:49 |
| alteregoa | afaik DRM = Direct render Manager | 00:51 |
| Daekdroom | Yeah. | 00:51 |
| alteregoa | you can access GPGPU in user mode | 00:51 |
| Daekdroom | I don't understand how DRM means "not having to fiddle with GPU acceleration" | 00:51 |
| Daekdroom | Unless you mean fetching and installing drivers. | 00:52 |
| alteregoa | never heard drm kernel using cs because intel gpu drivers are opened...` | 00:52 |
| alteregoa | e.g a program in userspace could access higher level gpu w/o xorg in between or something | 00:52 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. So you're talking about apps? I thought it referred to end-users. | 00:54 |
| alteregoa | wayland | 00:55 |
| Daekdroom | Yup. Wayland (and Mir, for Ubuntu) should simplify GPU acceleration by quite a lot once they're mature. | 00:56 |
| alteregoa | yeah but they are based on drm afaik | 00:56 |
| Daekdroom | I wouldn't say based, but they do rely on it for the open-source drivers. | 00:57 |
| Daekdroom | Either way, AMD and Nvidia can decide to support Wayland and/or Mir on their drivers without using DRM. | 00:57 |
| alteregoa | ok but for my opinion this is the way to go - it simplify a lot of things for end users | 00:58 |
| alteregoa | nvidia sucks | 00:58 |
| saiarcot895 | Is it standard for LTS released to be released as development releases one month prior to the offical launch? | 01:08 |
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| hyde | sandGorgon: I'm not very "in" in Ubuntu development, but I've never heard of Ubuntu "development releases". But there's the normal alpha(s)-beta(s)-relasecandidate(s) cycle. | 06:57 |
| hyde | sandGorgon: argh, ignore above | 06:58 |
| hyde | sleepy eyes + tab completion, when responsing to someone who wasn't in the channel any more. sorry | 06:58 |
| prainworker | good mornin g ! yesterday night i try to install the pkg ubuntu restricted extras it did fail to install and now software store is not working any more please help | 08:42 |
| prainworker | how to i clean up my pkg list | 08:43 |
| huayra | I have a regression in my Thinkpad X201 which is really annoying | 09:31 |
| huayra | when in my docking the computer work pretty good, but when I take it out most works, besides the screen brightness adjustmnet | 09:32 |
| huayra | I mean, it shows as if it adjusting it, but it keeps the monitor to a low level brightness and never goes up (or even changes) | 09:32 |
| huayra | I thought I would ask here before going bug hunting | 09:33 |
| utack | linux 3.14 will likely be released next weekend. kernel freeze is arpil 3rd. let's hope for the best | 09:45 |
| starrats | I hope someone is here this morning that can help me with my logon problem(s)? My problem is when I try to logon on to the little password screen my cursor freezes/locks up and will not mover off the little window, have tried everything I know to release the cursor. I end up doing a hard shutdown to reboot and try again and this has been numerous lately, please someone if you know a solution please let me know and thank you. | 11:42 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:44 |
| starrats | morning | 11:48 |
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| starrats | I hope someone is here this morning that can help me with my logon problem(s)? My problem is when I try to logon on to the little password screen my cursor freezes/locks up and will not mover off the little window, have tried everything I know to release the cursor. I end up doing a hard shutdown to reboot and try again and this has been numerous lately, please someone if you know a solution please let me know and thank you. | 12:19 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: Have you tried to restart psmouse | 12:27 |
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| starrats | kjetil: psmouse? | 12:34 |
| starrats | kjetil: I have a laptop with a 'mousepad' | 12:36 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: first modprobe -r psmouse an then modprobe psmouse as root | 12:38 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: psmouse is the kernel module driving your mouse | 12:39 |
| starrats | ah okay will try that | 12:39 |
| starrats | kjetil: just did those two commands in root and I did not get any response from term is this good or bad, I'm new in the cli but learning. | 12:44 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: this is normaly good, no response is "not bad" | 12:46 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: did your mouse come to life? | 12:46 |
| starrats | well I have no mouse just a mousepad as you find on a laptop | 12:47 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: but can you move your curser after you resarted psmouse | 12:49 |
| starrats | the only way I could see if this worked would be to reboot the laptop | 12:49 |
| starrats | yes | 12:49 |
| starrats | the cursor is moving quite nice | 12:50 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: restarting psmouse shuld have the same efect as rebooting | 12:50 |
| starrats | well mousepad seems to be working fine atm but my true test is to reboot and see if it freezes or not, that has been the only problem I have with the cursor at start-up | 12:53 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: this will probably not solve your problem it will only point you in a direction when figuring out what the reason is for the curser locks up. and save you from rebooting | 12:53 |
| starrats | ah ok | 12:54 |
| kjetil_ | starrats: starrats when i had this problem i fount it helped turning down the use of desktop effects. | 12:54 |
| starrats | desktop effects? | 12:55 |
| elfy | settings - window manager tweaks - compositor - turn it off | 12:55 |
| elfy | starrats: people are more likely to assume you're using ubuntu if you don't mention anything | 12:56 |
| elfy | or what they are using | 12:56 |
| starrats | ah ok | 12:56 |
| starrats | I'm using pre-release xubuntu 14.04, sorry forgot that | 12:57 |
| starrats | the compositor was not enabled when i just looked elfy | 13:01 |
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| nicklas_ | hello, ubuntu 14.04 will have nvidia optimus support? | 13:56 |
| DJones | nicklas_: I've got a laptop with intel/nvidia 750M graphics, I installed 14.04 and it worked fine for intel, then installed the nvidia-prime drivers, rebooted & it worked flawlessly | 13:58 |
| DJones | I can switch between intel & nvidia using the nvidia controls app (with reboot/relogin) | 13:59 |
| oxsyn | On 14.04 when I run apt-get dist-upgrade, my custom compiled vim binary in /usr/local/bin is removed from the system and my update-alternatives configuration is reset. Is this the way it's supposed to act? | 13:59 |
| nicklas_ | DJones: so no need for bumblebee from ubuntu 14.04? | 13:59 |
| DJones | nicklas_: No, none at all | 13:59 |
| DJones | nicklas_: Mine was a fresh install and hadn't had bumblebee installed, but I presume if you've already had that installed, you need to completely remove it first | 14:01 |
| nicklas_ | DJones: i have a new asus netbook, bought it without checking that it had optimus, if a had known that, i would have gone with a stationary computer instead (desktop). i wiped the ssd and hdd, and therefore removed the windows 8 recovery partition, and installed xubuntu, and found that i couldnt install the nvidia driver :-/ but ok, then i think i will wait for 14.04 and go with prime, install and upgrade when release, and then in | 14:03 |
| nicklas_ | DJones: i have nothing installed atm, at work, my computer is at home | 14:03 |
| DJones | nicklas_: As far as I know, prime will also work with 13.10 | 14:04 |
| DJones | nicklas_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics | 14:04 |
| nicklas_ | DJones: but how do i install prime? will it be available to install via the additional drivers tab? or will it be in repos? | 14:04 |
| nicklas_ | DJones: also, will prime be the default? or is it just temporary like bumblebee, until there is a better solution? also, will it install the fast switch thingy, in panel? | 14:06 |
| DJones | nicklas_: I'm not sure about the additional drivers tab, I just did it from a terminal, sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 (I think) nvidia-prime and reboot | 14:06 |
| DJones | I suspect prime is going to be a long term solution | 14:07 |
| DJones | Probably still a work in progress with further improvements to come | 14:08 |
| nicklas_ | ok | 14:08 |
| nicklas_ | thanks for all the info, need to go :-) | 14:08 |
| DJones | Good luck & you're welcome | 14:08 |
| cyberalex4life | hello, I am trying to change themes on trusty with unity-tweak-tool and ubuntu-tweak | 14:41 |
| cyberalex4life | but I can't change them sepparetly, only icons | 14:42 |
| darthanubis | maybe kind of early for that no? | 14:44 |
| cyberalex4life | maybe.. | 14:45 |
| darthanubis | I have tweak installed but have not done too much with it at this point | 14:45 |
| cyberalex4life | at least trusty seems more stable than saucy when released | 14:46 |
| darthanubis | I was going to ask about how it feels to others | 14:46 |
| darthanubis | and to me, it seems ok so far | 14:46 |
| darthanubis | gnome-screensavers was broken last week | 14:46 |
| darthanubis | but it seems fixed now | 14:46 |
| darthanubis | That was my only bug | 14:46 |
| cyberalex4life | well, I would prefer gnome-shell over unity | 14:46 |
| darthanubis | then use it | 14:47 |
| cyberalex4life | the reason why I am on unity is that nvidia-prime is on unity | 14:47 |
| darthanubis | oh | 14:47 |
| cyberalex4life | and could not successfully change gdm with lightdm | 14:47 |
| darthanubis | I dropped nvidia after issues with my xbmc box | 14:47 |
| darthanubis | laptops are all intel | 14:48 |
| cyberalex4life | well it has some tearing effect with nvidia prime | 14:48 |
| cyberalex4life | and you better not change any nvidia settings at all. had problems with that | 14:50 |
| cyberalex4life | the main reason why I do not like unity now is that is too glossy and messes with my eyes, so that's why I want to play with themes | 14:51 |
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| pepee | if linux 3.14.0 is released next week, will we have it in trusty? | 17:34 |
| aljosa | scrolling is to fast w/ touchpad, tried using synclient to fix it but didn't work. any other tools to fix scrolling speed? | 17:39 |
| k1l_ | pepee: no. but features or fixes get backported | 17:43 |
| pepee | k1l_, ah, ok | 17:45 |
| Fudge | are there any users here that use Orca | 17:53 |
| Fudge | Bug #1297429 | 17:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1297429 in unity (Ubuntu) "Using Firefox with Gnome-Orca the caret becomes unresponsive and Orca access keys such as headings buttons edit fields stop responding." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297429 | 17:53 |
| Fudge | looking for someoen to confirm this bug for me please | 17:54 |
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| bluefrog | don't knw how orca works but so far it seems pretty bad in firefox | 18:41 |
| johnjohn101 | getting close | 20:15 |
| wolfy1339 | i cant check for updates at all, when i do "apt-get update" i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7153061/ | 20:27 |
| pepee | wolfy1339, that looks like connection problems from your side | 20:45 |
| wolfy1339 | it's not... i can open it in a browser just fine, and i'm on irc right now on the pc concerned... so defenetly not that | 20:48 |
| wolfy1339 | pepee it can't be connection problems because i can access the repo's in my browser just fine... | 20:53 |
| pepee | wolfy1339, are you using a proxy? | 21:01 |
| wolfy1339 | pepee, no | 21:02 |
| pepee | wolfy1339, no idea, sorry | 21:05 |
| johnjohn101 | what are the chances of kernel 3.14 if it's released next week? | 21:11 |
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| CraHan | Does anyone happen to know if there's any way to suppress the 'wireless networks available' and 'you've been disconnected' notifications when you reach the login screen in 14.04? | 21:53 |
| CraHan | I know you can use dconf as a user, but that only changes the setting for that specific user. | 21:54 |
| CraHan | I haven't found how to change a dconf setting globally (if that's even possible) | 21:54 |
| Beldar | CraHan, I on occasion run gksudo dconf-editor in the cli when needed but be careful. | 22:12 |
| CraHan | Beldar: thanks for the tip. Got it working by sudo'ing to the lightdm account and using gsettings to set the correct dconf key | 22:18 |
| CraHan | Of course an option to disable wireless at the lightdm login screen would be an ideal solution for me | 22:22 |
| bluefrog | wolfy1339, have a look at the conf files in /etc/apt. you must have done something with them | 22:35 |
| wolfy1339 | no i didn't | 22:35 |
| bluefrog | then ask ovh what's wrong with their repo | 22:37 |
| bluefrog | and by the way 13.10 is dead no? | 22:38 |
| wolfy1339 | ovh?? | 22:38 |
| bluefrog | well you are trying to update a machine held by ovh, no? | 22:39 |
| bluefrog | this machine is not at your house, correct? | 22:39 |
| wolfy1339 | it is at my house, and it's 14.0 | 22:40 |
| wolfy1339 | *14.04 | 22:40 |
| bluefrog | then it's funny. when did you install 14.04 and how did you do it? | 22:40 |
| bluefrog | because you're trying to access an ovh machine | 22:40 |
| bluefrog | whois 198.27.97.214 | 22:41 |
| bluefrog | and you're trying to reach the 13.10 repo | 22:41 |
| bluefrog | http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy Release.gpg | 22:41 |
| wolfy1339 | yes for some packages, that don't have trusty versions | 22:42 |
| bluefrog | your config is all mixed up. time to do a clean install | 22:42 |
| wolfy1339 | clean install of what? my whole system? | 22:42 |
| bluefrog | and what grep -r 7808 /etc/apt/* gives? | 22:43 |
| wolfy1339 | grep: /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg: Permission denied | 22:45 |
| bluefrog | do you have your own repo? | 22:45 |
| wolfy1339 | my own repo? | 22:46 |
| bluefrog | aptcacher or something like that | 22:46 |
| wolfy1339 | no | 22:46 |
| bluefrog | then a ghost is in your machine | 22:50 |
| wolfy1339 | a ghost? | 22:50 |
| bluefrog | pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list | 22:51 |
| bluefrog | someone has changed the repo. as it's not me and you say it's not you then it has to be a ghost | 22:52 |
| wolfy1339 | the only thing i've done is add repo's through system settings... other than that nothing else i have touched | 22:53 |
| bluefrog | and possibly do as well sudo updatedb && locate apt.conf | 22:53 |
| bluefrog | pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list | 22:53 |
| wolfy1339 | http://pastebin.com/AANdLhCZ | 22:54 |
| pepee | http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu | 22:55 |
| bluefrog | wolfy1339, sources.list is good so you have a proxy declared somewhere in your machine | 22:56 |
| pepee | that one is down.. but the others should work | 22:56 |
| k1l | remove the non ubuntu stuff form that sources.list | 22:56 |
| k1l | and dont mix 13.10 packages into your 14.04 system | 22:57 |
| k1l | that has to get wrong. but dont blame ubuntu for that | 22:57 |
| wolfy1339 | i checked, and there's one but it should have been disabled when i put the setting as "none" | 22:57 |
| Ben64 | what is the preferred way of getting a classic gnome look and feel on trusty? | 22:57 |
| wolfy1339 | i cleared it | 22:58 |
| bluefrog | wolfy1339, obviously it's not disabled for apt | 22:58 |
| k1l | Ben64: the gnome-fallback thing? no matter what its called now | 22:58 |
| Ben64 | yeah i'm not sure what its called now | 22:58 |
| Ben64 | 12.04 i installed gnome-panel and it did it | 22:58 |
| wolfy1339 | k thx | 22:58 |
| Ben64 | i think theres a new method, build into gnome3? | 22:58 |
| k1l | wolfy1339: set a # in front of that lines (or remove the lines). then run a sudo apt-get update | 22:58 |
| bluefrog | bad wolfy, he's gone | 23:05 |
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