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[10:00] <rigo> hi
[10:00] <rigo> i have a cubieboard1. i installed this: lubuntu-server-13.06-v1.01 which runs the 3.4.43+ kernel what has no apt-get installable headers. but i need a kernel with headers to install the liplinian driver package.
[10:01] <ogra_> so ask the person that created your image
[10:01] <rigo> can i install kernel on it? how?
[10:01] <ogra_> (this is not an ubuntu image, someone externally has built it )
[10:03] <rigo> why on earth are there kernels without headers anyway? :D
[10:04] <ogra_> there definitely are headers ... the person who created your kernel surely has them :)
[10:04] <ogra_> (or had at least, when the kernel was built)
[10:06] <rigo> im just confused.. i downloaded loads of images for the cubieboard1 but all are running on this headerless kernel. (i mean it doesnt have like not apt-get installable which is for me linux noob the only way to get i guess)
[10:10] <ogra_> well, there are no official images for the cubieboard from ubuntu ... and there is no kernel for it in the ubuntu archive
[10:10] <ogra_> if some third person creates an image at home we cant help much, you need to find that person to give you the headers
[10:10] <ogra_> or the kernel source ...
[10:13] <rigo> i will. and i will http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I
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[15:20] <awakecoding> Hi
[15:21] <awakecoding> I'd like to package my software for distribution on ubuntu for ARM
[15:21] <awakecoding> with ubuntu-based ARM thin clients in mind
[15:21] <awakecoding> which versions of ubuntu should I target, which variants of ARM should I build for?
[15:22] <awakecoding> and especially, which ARM systems are the most well supported by  ubuntu. I'm looking for a system that would actually have proper GPU acceleration
[16:14] <hrw> awakecoding: target: trusty (as development) and saucy (as latest released) at least. may also consider precise (last lts)
[16:14] <hrw> and care about armhf
[16:15] <awakecoding> hrw: ok, thanks. are there qemu images available? what's the best way to cross-compile?
[16:15] <hrw> I do not track ubuntu development for quite long time
[16:15] <hrw> there are some armhf images but how to run them in qemu? provide own kernel probably
[16:16] <awakecoding> ok
[16:17] <awakecoding> is there a recommended platform for using ubuntu on ARM?
[16:18] <awakecoding> I was asking yesterday in #linaro and even today GPU acceleration is a huge issue on the vast majority of linux boards
[16:18] <awakecoding> no GPU acceleration == it's going to suck as a thin client
[16:21] <hrw> define GPU acceleration
[16:21] <hrw> 2D? 3D as OpenGL? 3D as OpenGLES?
[16:25] <awakecoding> hrw: mostly 2D, but 3D affects the general usage of the desktop, especially with unity
[16:25] <hrw> for unity I would go to local store and buy x86 hardware
[16:25] <hrw> but I am known as not a fan of unity
[16:26] <awakecoding> putting unity aside, let's say it's used with a more lightweight desktop, if the X11 environment is unaccelerated, it's still going to cause performance problems
[16:31] <awakecoding> take the utilite pro for instance, I've got one of those, it's pretty neat, but no GPU acceleration is a bummer: http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-models
[16:31] <awakecoding> if it had GPU acceleration I could make an amazing thin client out of it