| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| mapp | ;] | 03:12 |
|---|---|---|
| mapp | cold wet andmiserable | 03:12 |
| mapp | what anice night | 03:12 |
| shauno | no kidding! my window got hit by a low-flying umbrella earlier :( | 03:14 |
| mapp | ;( | 03:14 |
| mapp | wish i had an umbrella..normally they break in the wind but tonight wasnt too windy and of course im umbrella-less | 03:16 |
| shauno | umbrellas should be banned. they simply don't work here | 03:16 |
| shauno | they bug me because the trash cans in town are always stuffed full of them. silly tourists | 03:17 |
| mapp | hahahaha yep | 03:17 |
| mapp | when its windy see em everywhere | 03:17 |
| mapp | every single one iv had has always broken.cheap or expensive | 03:17 |
| shauno | I'm right on the coast. it's almost always windy | 03:17 |
| shauno | but tourists don't seem to realise that the irish solution to rain is pubs, not umbrellas | 03:18 |
| mapp | lol | 03:30 |
| mapp | so youre in ireland.didnt know:) | 03:31 |
| jussi | foobarry: I was reading backlog and saw this... | 06:50 |
| jussi | [16:51:00] <foobarry> lately my car leaked, my boiler is playing up, got 2 bikes nicked, hole in my roof, needed a new fence... :( | 06:50 |
| jussi | I think maybe you should write some country music... | 06:50 |
| MooDoo | HEllo All | 06:50 |
| jussi | (sorry, sounds horrible what happened) | 06:51 |
| jussi | hi MooDoo | 06:51 |
| * jussi is just waiting for the coffee to brew | 06:51 | |
| mapp | hey | 06:52 |
| jussi | morning mapp | 07:05 |
| jussi | missing an s today... | 07:06 |
| mapp | morning mate | 07:13 |
| mapp | yes | 07:13 |
| mapp | :D | 07:13 |
| mapp | OH WTF | 07:13 |
| mapp | i just saw | 07:14 |
| mapp | no wonder i had 40mins downtime earlier | 07:14 |
| mapp | look at my host | 07:14 |
| mapp | that downtime muste been when i went from o2 to bethere | 07:14 |
| mapp | just saw my host skybroadband.com | 07:14 |
| mapp | and a different IP | 07:14 |
| mapp | ARGH | 07:14 |
| mapp | i had 94.193.78.219 for 6 bloody years | 07:14 |
| mapp | why couldnt they switch me over and keep it | 07:14 |
| mapp | now heres a question | 07:16 |
| mapp | my payment with bethere/o2 was manul as they messed it up | 07:16 |
| mapp | do i phone sky and sort it out or leave it and let them contact me:) | 07:16 |
| jussi | mapp: be proactive or youll end up with big bills. | 07:18 |
| mapp | but itd be same as if i pay it one by one | 07:19 |
| mapp | i planned to switch b4 it went to sky | 07:20 |
| mapp | didnt think itd happen yet | 07:20 |
| * MartijnVdS "Me too"s on Laney's vim bug | 07:38 | |
| MartijnVdS | (bug 1295127_ | 07:38 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1295127 in vim (Ubuntu) "gvim has messed up global menus" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295127 | 07:38 |
| diplo | Morning all | 09:00 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Tolkien Reading Day! :-D | 09:05 |
| bashrc | morning | 09:08 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:49 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:50 |
| bigcalm | Can anybody recommend (through usage) a desktop SIP client? | 09:50 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 09:51 |
| directhex | bigcalm, empathy has full sip functionality, if you can make it work & it's not broken in today's ubuntu | 09:51 |
| directhex | bigcalm, whereas sflphone isn't pretty, but *works* | 09:52 |
| jussi | havent used it for a while, but last I remember blink worked... | 09:53 |
| ali1234 | N900 makes a nice "desktop" sip/skype phone... you can put it on your desk... | 09:54 |
| jussi | !info qutecom | 09:54 |
| lubotu3 | qutecom (source: qutecom): SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1+dfsg1-3ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 2564 kB, installed size 7410 kB | 09:54 |
| * bigcalm bangs head against desk | 09:55 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | bigcalm: sflphone. It's the nuts: http://sflphone.org/ | 09:55 |
| bigcalm | Setting up SIP on my android phone was simple with Acrobit Softphone | 09:56 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: stop doing that you might damage the desk | 09:56 |
| bigcalm | But getting a desktop client to work is not happening for me. None of them have working audio | 09:57 |
| bigcalm | Which makes me think that there's a problem with Ubuntu 13.10 | 09:57 |
| ali1234 | probably a codec mismatch | 09:57 |
| bigcalm | Got something working on 14.04 (laptop) last night though | 09:57 |
| ali1234 | try calling desktop to desktop and see if that works | 09:58 |
| bigcalm | How does one do that? | 09:58 |
| ali1234 | get two computers and call one from the other | 09:58 |
| ali1234 | or run two copies of empathy or something | 09:58 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: telepathy-sofiasip ekiga sflphone and linphone are all on par-ish. Personally I use sofiasip in empathy | 09:59 |
| ali1234 | don't ask me how you would do that. virtualbox maybe? | 09:59 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: empathy + telepathy-sofiasip works fine for me for the company conf system if that helps at all and it is fairly easy to setup | 10:00 |
| * bigcalm wonders if one can't use the same sip account in more than one place at once | 10:03 | |
| bigcalm | Sod it, back to work | 10:05 |
| bigcalm | Thanks though peeps :) | 10:05 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: I believe so (that's exactly what my brother was working on a couple years ago), but I'm not sure you can log in with the same account (e.g. sipgate) from two devices at the same time. | 10:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | bigcalm: dwatkins That's called SIP branching I think and is a SIP Proxy feature - I don't think SIP servers (Asterisk for example) allow multiple registrations from the same address though. | 10:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I think normally, the SIP server will just alert the most recently registered device unless it is explicitly supported. | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | Ah. I have my mobile connected to my sipgate account. This would be why it's not working on the desktop? | 10:37 |
| bigcalm | That would mean having to unplug a desktop SIP phone when away from the office :| | 10:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Or have multiple accounts and create a ring group. | 10:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That is the normal way ;-) | 10:38 |
| bigcalm | Humm, fair enough | 10:38 |
| popey | i have two devices connected to the same SIP server | 10:44 |
| popey | and they both work for ringing out, but i rarely get people ringing in, if they do, it only rings one device | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | Until my boss decides to really get SIP sorted out, it's mostly a thought experiment :( | 10:51 |
| bigcalm | Will wait until he orders some desk phones | 10:52 |
| bigcalm | Any good? http://www.ebuyer.com/239679-cisco-small-business-spa-303-ip-phone-spa303-g3 | 10:52 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yes bigcalm We're using them :-) | 10:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | With Asterisk | 10:57 |
| bigcalm | Good to know :) | 10:57 |
| bigcalm | So you spent the time to set up Asterisk yourself? | 10:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | We run FreePBX on a Virtual Machine in germany | 10:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Have SIP trunks from our phone provider in Dorchester | 10:58 |
| bigcalm | Who do you use for trunking? | 10:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | These guys: http://www.poundbury.com/ | 11:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | But this is historic, we've been with them for years... | 11:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Good service though. | 11:03 |
| bigcalm | Do you use it only in the office? | 11:05 |
| bigcalm | Or do you have something set-up for remote working? | 11:05 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 11:08 |
| directhex | we use polycom | 11:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I have Seimens Gigaset phones at home (pstn & SIP) and AlanBell did have SipDriod on his mobile too I think. | 11:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | bigcalm: these phones: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/04/siemens-gigaset-685ip-phones/ (Since April 2008) :-) just starting to replace the batteries now. | 11:19 |
| dwatkins | We use Asterisk internally for testing SIP stuffs, it's running on a really underpowered virtual machine, so the voice quality is awful, but it works. It didn't take long to setup, either. | 11:27 |
| directhex | asterisk is basically a realtime app | 11:34 |
| directhex | quality suffers immensely if interrupts are not serviced instantly | 11:35 |
| directhex | freeswitch is much much more forgiving | 11:35 |
| dwatkins | I imagine it's also best to run Asterisk on the bare metal, not in a virtual machine (unless the server is nice and fast) | 11:46 |
| bigcalm | Just had a call with my father (he rang the number for my sipgate.co.uk account) and it worked really well - on my mobile. | 11:52 |
| bigcalm | Bit of a delay from one person to the other though | 11:52 |
| popey | that's probably provider-specific | 11:53 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 11:53 |
| popey | i see no delay with our company * server in london | 11:53 |
| bigcalm | I am wondering if we should go with separate * server and trunk provider | 11:54 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: I can [privately] give you my SIP number if you want to test the voice quality on a call made to SIPgate (via the mobile phone network's data) | 12:06 |
| bigcalm | dwatkins: maybe another time, but thanks :) Just a bit busy right now | 12:12 |
| dwatkins | ok, no worries | 12:12 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | Just FYI, we don't have any noticeable issues with our * server being in Germany in a VM and our SIP phones in Farnham. | 13:08 |
| dwatkins | TheOpenSourcerer: I'm guessing the vm server has more than a single Pentium 4 core at 2.8 GHz ;) | 13:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | :-D | 13:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 32G RAM, 12 cores (6 + hyperthreads) @ 3.4Ghz IIRC | 13:10 |
| smittix | Has anyone got a finger print reader working in Ubuntu? | 13:13 |
| smittix | Or is it better just to forget about it heh | 13:14 |
| popey | I have one, but never use it | 13:14 |
| smittix | It as pretty nice to quickly login with it is all. | 13:14 |
| smittix | I can do with out it though. | 13:14 |
| smittix | Need to see if I can switch this Nvidia card off next. | 13:15 |
| directhex | i looked into fingerprint reading | 13:19 |
| directhex | but there's a huge list of problems with using it | 13:19 |
| smittix | Oh | 13:23 |
| smittix | Been away from Ubuntu for too long. | 13:24 |
| smittix | Is Ubuntu Tweak still going? | 13:24 |
| popey | yes | 13:25 |
| popey | there's a unity tweak tool which is nice | 13:26 |
| smittix | Cool, will check it out. | 13:26 |
| smittix | Will be a little learning for me getting my RTLSDR stuff up and running in Ubuntu too. | 13:27 |
| Myrtti | smittix: depends on the hardware, atleast on my work Dell Latitude it's a no-go | 13:30 |
| smittix | Well, there was only 2 things I was worried about on this laptop using Ubuntu. 1, Fingerprint Reader (which I'm not too fussed about) 2, Nvidia optimus | 13:31 |
| smittix | I can do without the Nvidia card so could probably try and turn it off to save battery consumptions (if possible) | 13:32 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| directhex | smittix, you might not be able to do without the nvidia card, depends on how the laptop is wired internally | 13:55 |
| smittix | I will have a gander then. Thanks directhex | 13:58 |
| foobarry | i have multiple google accounts, how do i change the name on one of them to foobarry work or foobarry do not use | 14:15 |
| shauno | not an answer, but do you ever get g+ sending you emails suggesting you might know yourself? | 14:34 |
| smittix | HEH | 14:34 |
| shauno | I get them about every 2 weeks at the moment :/ | 14:35 |
| smittix | Does anyone suffer lag when dragging an icon from dash to launcher? | 14:35 |
| foobarry | shauno: yes | 14:36 |
| foobarry | i want to disable g+ but i want a youtube account with that login | 14:36 |
| mapp | hey | 14:38 |
| mapp | so im with sky now hey...so i had o2 (bethere) before...18 quid o2 10 quid sky..will sky charge me a tenner? | 14:38 |
| dwatkins | mapp: I had a similar dilemma, and will be switching to PlusNet soon, £25 a month for FTTC. | 14:41 |
| mapp | i had no choice..:< sky bought bethere and slowly moved everyone over | 14:42 |
| mapp | so i was paying 18quidfor o2 (bethere) but now im moved to sky..will sky charge me 10 quid which is what a sky customer pays? | 14:42 |
| mapp | or will they leave it and let me pay more lol | 14:42 |
| foobarry | is it possible to buy cheap broadband with out phoen rental yet? | 14:43 |
| mapp | yea | 14:43 |
| mapp | sky | 14:43 |
| mapp | 10 quid !! | 14:43 |
| dwatkins | you still have to pay line rental somehow, though. | 14:44 |
| dwatkins | it might be included, though, not sure. | 14:44 |
| foobarry | not for ten quid | 14:44 |
| dwatkins | I imagine if you get your broadband from BT they have a really cheap offer, but yeah - line rental is more than £10 a month, I'm sure. | 14:44 |
| smittix | Doesn't Virgin Media allow you to have bb without a telephone? | 14:44 |
| foobarry | the only calls i get on the land line are indian people who don't speak english | 14:44 |
| foobarry | smittix: yes with fibre for ££ | 14:45 |
| dwatkins | smittix: yeah, but if you do have a landline with Virgin, it's practically free if you have broadband with them, iirc. | 14:45 |
| foobarry | so not a good deal | 14:45 |
| mapp | oh yea but i thought umeant without oaying the same company | 14:45 |
| smittix | I'm with them, I can't even remember what I pay :S | 14:45 |
| foobarry | no i don't want a home phone | 14:45 |
| foobarry | but i don't want to be penalised with virgin rip off "deal" | 14:45 |
| dwatkins | I'm currently with IDNet, they're superb (have UK support department who pick up the phone within 2 rings, network has been superb) but they're £45 a month! | 14:45 |
| foobarry | also, i need a 3 line bio - anyone done one? | 14:45 |
| foobarry | foobarry likes open source and haribo. | 14:46 |
| smittix | I do know though every year I go through to customer retentions and tell them I'm going to sky. | 14:46 |
| dwatkins | foobarry: make it a haiku ;)] | 14:46 |
| smittix | Until they give me something free. | 14:46 |
| mapp | IDNet | 14:47 |
| mapp | heh | 14:47 |
| mapp | idnet a small isp? | 14:47 |
| mapp | i tried that with o2 on my phone contract and got nothing?! so just left and went with ee | 14:48 |
| foobarry | dwatkins: hmm good one. there are longer haiku too | 14:48 |
| mapp | 3 line bio? | 14:49 |
| foobarry | the first cold shower | 14:49 |
| foobarry | even the monkey seems to want | 14:49 |
| foobarry | a little coat of straw | 14:50 |
| mapp | guess il have to google | 14:50 |
| mapp | no idea of 3 line bio or haiku:) | 14:50 |
| foobarry | mapp: 3 lines or 50 words on your career history and summary | 14:50 |
| mapp | ah | 14:51 |
| mapp | i thought we were still on isp talk | 14:51 |
| mapp | lol | 14:51 |
| foobarry | a three line bio/is required of my good self/i will write one now | 14:51 |
| mapp | ah | 14:51 |
| mapp | so why do you pay so much dwatkins> 45/month seems a lot | 14:54 |
| dwatkins | mapp: indeed, IDNet are £20 a month more than the same from PlusNet. I think IDNet are mainly a business ISP. Also, I have a cap of 200 GB/month, which is double plus ungood. | 14:56 |
| mapp | a cap still sucks:( | 15:03 |
| foobarry | anyone ever experience hung ssh sessions due to lack of serveraliveinterval settings? | 15:11 |
| dwatkins | never even heard of it until now, foobarry [ ServerAliveInterval: number of seconds that the client will wait before sending a null packet to the server (to keep the connection alive). ] | 15:12 |
| foobarry | i'm getting hung ssh sessions only on my hpc cluster | 15:13 |
| dwatkins | I've had ssh sessions drop on some systems, presumably due to this being set to 0, to disable this feature. | 15:13 |
| dwatkins | Are you sure it's not due to something more fundamental, like the IP address changing? | 15:13 |
| foobarry | nope | 15:13 |
| foobarry | on a desktop pc | 15:13 |
| foobarry | i regularly leave ssh sessions open for days | 15:13 |
| dwatkins | I mean that of the server, unlikely as that is. | 15:13 |
| foobarry | these ones are freezing | 15:13 |
| dwatkins | as do I - I'm running this irssi session on a machine across the Atlantic from me, I usually stay logged in to it for hours if not days at a time. | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | i irc directly through a ssh tunnel | 15:14 |
| foobarry | changed my conf file ..let's see | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | no remote irssi session | 15:14 |
| dwatkins | I reconnect to my screen/irssi session from home or work | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | you can check the logs to see how often i disconnect... it does happen, but i use autossh to bring the tunnel up if it goes down | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | in my experience keepalive doesn't really help at all | 15:16 |
| ali1234 | if the connection hangs it's because some packet got lost or something and there's no recovering from that | 15:17 |
| ali1234 | so what you want is to make it exit clean instead of hanging | 15:17 |
| foobarry | i suspect its a firwall issue inbetween | 15:17 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 15:17 |
| foobarry | timing out a session | 15:17 |
| foobarry | they put a cisco in recently | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | here, my ssh connection will fail if my internet goes down and comes back up | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | i have a static IP and on my old router the connection would stay alive on reconnect. but on the new one it doesn't, it just hangs - so it doesn't even realise the connection has died | 15:18 |
| foobarry | i'm blaming networks team | 15:21 |
| dwatkins | I used to have rlwrap+autossh+screen+irssi | 15:27 |
| mapp | autossh?! | 15:32 |
| dwatkins | what about it, mapp? | 15:32 |
| mapp | i never fully understand ssh tunnelling/port forwarding with it | 15:32 |
| mapp | just never heard of it:D | 15:32 |
| dwatkins | I don't use port forwarding with autossh, at least not right now. | 15:32 |
| dwatkins | autossh will keep the connection alive if the network is disconnected and reconnected, so you don't have to press up-arrow and hit return ;) | 15:33 |
| dwatkins | combined with -t 'screen -drU' it will also reconnect to an existing screen session. | 15:33 |
| mapp | cant do that with putty i assume | 15:33 |
| mapp | it must be linux only i take it? | 15:34 |
| dwatkins | I don't know - you can probably have it run a command to reconnect to a screen session at least. There might be some kind of keepalive option in PuTTY. | 15:34 |
| mapp | might look into it..i always have to open putty and connect again | 15:35 |
| mapp | i did use some windows client thatd auto reconnect that was neat | 15:35 |
| dwatkins | mapp: http://superuser.com/questions/187293/putty-automatic-reconnect-after-internet-interruption | 15:36 |
| mapp | dont suppose anyone had any idea re my networking question daftykins said it was my wireless card..but say i restat the router it doesnt come back online | 15:36 |
| mapp | and if im not at home i cant restart it..and cant ssh in obviously as its just hung..guess thees nothing besides get a new card | 15:37 |
| dwatkins | what doesn't restart/reconnect exactly, mapp, or is it that the machine gets a different IP address? | 15:38 |
| mapp | say i restarted my router now or had a powercut the xubuntu machine would just stay there unconected...it may say it has an ip on ifconfig i think i manually set it so its static | 15:38 |
| mapp | but it wouldnt regain connectivity | 15:38 |
| dwatkins | also, depending on how it's set up, it might require you to be logged in for wifi to connect. | 15:38 |
| mapp | it starts on boot | 15:38 |
| dwatkins | so you have the SSID and passphrase set in /etc/network/interfaces file or similar, a static IP address, but it doesn't work until a particular point? | 15:39 |
| mapp | yea | 15:39 |
| mapp | like it works now | 15:40 |
| mapp | and its all fine..if i turned my router off then back on..it wouldnt work again without me rebooting | 15:40 |
| mapp | surely there's a way to solve that1 | 15:40 |
| mapp | =[ | 15:40 |
| === roht is now known as wadzi | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| dwatkins | mapp: that depends on how the client machine is configured, it might be worth considering having the machine itself use DHCP and have the router give it a specific IP address based on the wifi adapter's MAC address. | 16:25 |
| dwatkins | I'm not sure at what point the wifi is initialised at boot-time, or whether it will renegotiate if the router is reset in the case of the client having a static IP, of at-all | 16:26 |
| dwatkins | *if at-all | 16:26 |
| daftykins | mapp: just to confirm, you have the wireless password inside /etc/network/interfaces ? so you don't use network manager at all? | 17:01 |
| === roht is now known as wadzi | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| maps|wrk | forgot my sodding ip | 18:05 |
| maps|wrk | 5ec3f432.skybroadband.com whats the ip | 18:06 |
| maps|wrk | cant use / dns on webchat | 18:06 |
| daftykins | sec | 18:07 |
| maps|wrk | got it:D useddnssstuff | 18:07 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 18:07 |
| popey | heh | 18:07 |
| popey | your ip is echo'ed here | 18:07 |
| popey | 18:05:35 -!- maps|wrk [515ed518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.94.213.24] has joined #ubuntu-uk | 18:07 |
| maps|wrk | thats my work ip:P | 18:07 |
| popey | ah ☻ | 18:07 |
| maps|wrk | wanted to connect to my machine | 18:07 |
| maps|wrk | crap | 18:08 |
| maps|wrk | installed Zentyal and its taken over my apache | 18:08 |
| maps|wrk | so i cant get to my shellinabox or qwebirc client..hmm | 18:08 |
| maps|wrk | and i cant login to it..great | 18:08 |
| maps|wrk | not what i wanted;/ | 18:09 |
| daftykins | doh! | 18:09 |
| maps|wrk | https://94.195.244.50 works but yea its going to zentayl not my apache setup..removing it should fix this? | 18:10 |
| daftykins | or just reconfigure it to run on another port so they can co-exist | 18:10 |
| maps|wrk | and it doesnt appear to use the system u/p for access and i havent set anyt up so i cant login] | 18:10 |
| maps|wrk | i cant do that now though | 18:10 |
| maps|wrk | i also thought i had i selected port 444 | 18:10 |
| maps|wrk | ssl is 443 iirc? | 18:10 |
| maps|wrk | but somehow it's working on https ,,., and my apache isnt listening on 8080? | 18:11 |
| maps|wrk | ah well | 18:11 |
| maps|wrk | got the tennis on at least and theres the big game later..just cant mess about with my machine ;/ | 18:11 |
| MartijnVdS | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/microsoft-releases-source-code-for-ms-dos-and-word/ | 18:26 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: nice | 18:56 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: lol @ the last paragraph | 18:58 |
| diddledan | I'm thinking that if you're running XP for those 20 intervening years then you'll be sploited up the wazoo | 18:59 |
| diddledan | heh, looks like it's popular - the backend is down | 19:00 |
| diddledan | Error 503 Service Unavailable | 19:00 |
| diddledan | complete with a guru meditation error | 19:00 |
| daftykins | what is? | 19:01 |
| diddledan | daftykins: http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/microsoft-ms-dos-early-source-code | 19:01 |
| daftykins | ah ok the actual thing, silly me | 19:02 |
| diddledan | yeah I wasn't clear that I'd clicked through :-p | 19:02 |
| diddledan | this page works: http://www.computerhistory.org/press/ms-source-code.html | 19:02 |
| daftykins | copying 170GB over USB 2 ;_; | 19:03 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArrNRWQEso | 19:15 |
| diddledan | larry page on a ted video | 19:15 |
| daftykins | wow he has an... odd voice | 19:17 |
| diddledan | he had a condition which caused it a couple years ago | 19:18 |
| daftykins | ah | 19:18 |
| diddledan | he disappeared from the public eye because he was so self-conscious about it, and made a "comeback" at a google-io conference | 19:19 |
| diddledan | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-14/larry-page-explains-why-he-lost-his-voice | 19:20 |
| daftykins | day-um | 19:23 |
| Saur0_ | hi can anyone help me set up lvm with 4 x 4TB disks? | 19:23 |
| daftykins | i was under the impression LVM will only pool the disks into one volume - it won't offer any safeguards against data loss? | 19:24 |
| MartijnVdS | not necessarily | 19:24 |
| diddledan | right lvm doesn't do redundancy by itself IIRC | 19:25 |
| MartijnVdS | LVM can do striping | 19:25 |
| MartijnVdS | lvcreate -i | 19:26 |
| MartijnVdS | also -I | 19:26 |
| daftykins | as in striping like RAID 0? | 19:26 |
| daftykins | or with parity | 19:26 |
| MartijnVdS | striping as in raid 1 | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: I think.. there's also -m for mirroring | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | so.. I don't really know | 19:27 |
| diddledan | raid 1 is mirroring | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | lvm can do both I guess | 19:27 |
| diddledan | so.. this is a bit of overkill for your tuesday evening: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/25/titan-z/ | 20:01 |
| popey | golly | 20:02 |
| daftykins | just need a small bank loan and a 2 foot desk fan to cool it | 20:03 |
| diddledan | then there's their plans for 2016: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/25/gpu-roadmap-pascal/ | 20:04 |
| diddledan | NVLink - 80GB/s interconnect between system and gfx instead of PCIe's 16GB/s | 20:05 |
| diddledan | I wonder what AMD will do in response to that - means that mobos will only be able to support nV or AMD and not both | 20:06 |
| daftykins | hrmm that doesn't sound too practical | 20:07 |
| daftykins | i don't see intel accepting it | 20:07 |
| daftykins | that silly social network sharing bar on the left is stopping me seeing the entire text | 20:08 |
| diddledan | open the inspector and put a display:none on it's css | 20:08 |
| daftykins | heh | 20:09 |
| diddledan | or. get a bigger monitor | 20:09 |
| daftykins | i browse with sort of just over half width ;) | 20:09 |
| diddledan | well then, here's a radical idea - resize the window? | 20:09 |
| daftykins | yes yes :P | 20:09 |
| daftykins | more pointing out poor design | 20:10 |
| diddledan | I have three monitors and it still isn't enough | 20:10 |
| daftykins | yeah more display area is a slippery slope | 20:10 |
| diddledan | I wonder if I can justify a 30" epeen? | 20:12 |
| diddledan | erm.. monitor** | 20:12 |
| daftykins | i'm not a fan of 30s, my client has one | 20:13 |
| daftykins | you have to pan your head =/ | 20:13 |
| daftykins | much prefer my pair of 24s | 20:13 |
| foobarry | 27 is nice | 20:16 |
| diddledan | is that a mistake - latest updates to 14.04 have brought-in "browser" from touch | 20:47 |
| diddledan | i.e. my desktop now has the touch browser in addition to firefox | 20:48 |
| popey | diddledan: oxide | 21:25 |
| popey | ? | 21:25 |
| popey | hmm, i didnt get it | 21:26 |
| diddledan | popey: in the dash it's listed as "browser" and in it's title bar it says "ubuntu browser" | 21:26 |
| popey | oh, i have that | 21:26 |
| diddledan | a load of qt5 came along with it | 21:27 |
| popey | do you have aptitude installed? | 21:28 |
| diddledan | nope | 21:29 |
| diddledan | it comes from the package "webbrowser-app" | 21:30 |
| popey | ahh, webapp-container, thats why | 21:32 |
| popey | yay | 21:32 |
| popey | $ aptitude why webbrowser-app | 21:32 |
| popey | i webapp-container Depends webbrowser-app (= 0.23+14.04.20140319-0ubuntu1) | 21:32 |
| diddledan | which is brought-in by qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin | 21:33 |
| diddledan | (I think) | 21:33 |
| diddledan | might be the other way about, though, I suck at reading depends/rdepends output | 21:33 |
| diddledan | ooh | 21:33 |
| diddledan | I get that it's depended-on by unity-webapps-service which depends on webapp-container | 21:34 |
| diddledan | I've installed aptitude now | 21:34 |
| popey | ☻ | 21:35 |
| diddledan | yeah it all drills back down to ubuntu-desktop | 21:36 |
| diddledan | ubuntu-desktop -> unity-webapps-common -> unity-webapps-service -> webapp-container -> webbrowser-app | 21:37 |
| diddledan | locally-integrated menus is doing something fun and new in the realm of menus - quite interesting that they're not actually an additional thing but hidden behind the title bar | 21:39 |
| diddledan | kinda hybrid between ubuntu's hidden global menu and everyone and their dogs' window-integrated screen-real-estate-using menus | 21:41 |
| diddledan | why am I lagging? I just got silenced for flooding #wordpress because of lag | 21:46 |
| diddledan | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26723457 | 21:49 |
| diddledan | lol | 21:49 |
| Azelphur | hmm...dunno if anyone has noticed this, but go to xubuntu.org, and look at the screenshot on the front page, specifically look at the date on the panel :P | 22:01 |
| daftykins | Facebook to acquire Oculus | 22:03 |
| daftykins | oooh dear | 22:03 |
| * Azelphur is giggling at the silliness xubuntu snuck into the screenshots | 22:05 | |
| daftykins | Azelphur: ? :) | 22:06 |
| daftykins | oh just saw above comment | 22:06 |
| daftykins | hang on | 22:06 |
| Azelphur | :P | 22:06 |
| daftykins | Sex! D: | 22:07 |
| Azelphur | haha | 22:07 |
| bigcalm | ? | 22:07 |
| daftykins | and slickymaster | 22:07 |
| daftykins | bigcalm: http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/abiword_gnumeric.png | 22:07 |
| Azelphur | at first I thought it was a non-english translation, but all the screenshots are clearly using the english dialect | 22:07 |
| bigcalm | Nice :) | 22:08 |
| bigcalm | Day of the week? | 22:08 |
| Azelphur | subliminal messaging is what it is :P | 22:08 |
| Azelphur | bigcalm: indeed | 22:08 |
| * daftykins goes off with an inexplicable desire to find slickymaster | 22:08 | |
| Azelphur | haha | 22:09 |
| diddledan | I need sex now | 22:10 |
| Azelphur | careful, don't forget it's a PG channel | 22:10 |
| diddledan | I mean, it's totally the right day of the week! | 22:10 |
| Azelphur | haha | 22:11 |
| diddledan | I wasn't going to involve the channel ;-) | 22:11 |
| daftykins | * diddledan posts the statement to all his social networks | 22:11 |
| diddledan | hmm, should I buy the humble ebook bungle? | 22:15 |
| daftykins | sounds like it's doomed to fail if it's a bungle | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | xfce :) | 22:20 |
| ali1234 | that screenshot wasn't intentional | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | slickymaster isn't english | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | he changed the locale to do the screenshot, but the panel didn't update (would be my guess) | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: you can find slickymaster in #xubuntu-dev, but the bug was already reported i think | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | as for facebook buying oculus... well i hope they fix the license on the SDK | 22:23 |
| ali1234 | it's a horrible crayon license currently, which is basically "BSD but we can revoke your rights to use it at any time for any reason" | 22:23 |
| ali1234 | yeah, "sex" is portuguese for "fri"(day) | 22:27 |
| daftykins | wow | 22:28 |
| daftykins | that's quite a cunning association | 22:28 |
| diddledan | I prefer to see it as a reminder | 22:28 |
| diddledan | :-p | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | in portuguese apparently the says are called "first day", "second day" etc | 22:32 |
| ali1234 | and sunday is first day of the week | 22:33 |
| diddledan | how simple | 22:33 |
| diddledan | first day, second day, through to sex day and seventh day | 22:33 |
| daftykins | client of mine likes Sunday as the first | 22:33 |
| ali1234 | sexta-feira literally means "sixth day" | 22:33 |
| daftykins | but it's the week-END !? | 22:33 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: yeah i know right? | 22:33 |
| daftykins | btw i would like to make you gentlemen jealous | 22:34 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/am3xgv5iyllpo9f/IMG_20140325_212753.jpg | 22:34 |
| diddledan | it's melting | 22:34 |
| daftykins | by design sir, by design | 22:35 |
| diddledan | I wont say that it looks like an orange atop a turd | 22:35 |
| diddledan | :-p | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | is that toffee pudding with a treacle sponge on top? | 22:36 |
| diddledan | silly restaurants and their candle illumination ruining photos | 22:36 |
| diddledan | ali1234: isn't that what I said? :-p | 22:36 |
| daftykins | sticky toffee pudding with vanilla ice cream | 22:37 |
| diddledan | ice cream ftw! | 22:37 |
| daftykins | silly restaurants and their 'we can't afford lighting' approach most times, even | 22:37 |
| diddledan | ice cream is awesome | 22:38 |
| diddledan | it's almost as good as what happens on fridays | 22:38 |
| bigcalm | popey: ping | 22:49 |
| popey | bigcalm: pong | 22:51 |
| bigcalm | Hazar | 22:51 |
| daftykins | geek pr0n anyone? | 23:07 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0y7csfxl6pvbh9/IMG_20140325_230157.jpg | 23:07 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/9gy5ueruvzg93d0/IMG_20140325_230610.jpg | 23:07 |
| shauno | I .. uhm .. question your taste | 23:08 |
| daftykins | haha | 23:08 |
| daftykins | yeah a lowly acer 15.6" surely isn't my idea of a good one | 23:09 |
| daftykins | but hey, a task is a task | 23:09 |
| shauno | it's more the dust that turned me off | 23:09 |
| daftykins | i've seen quite a few of these 5000 series | 23:10 |
| daftykins | had those two that required new DC jacks a bit ago | 23:10 |
| shauno | this is my nekkid toys for the day :) https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1655995_10153981281380578_1484815336_n.jpg | 23:10 |
| shauno | a day off quite successfully wasted | 23:10 |
| daftykins | hehehe | 23:12 |
| daftykins | just messing about or got a project on the go? | 23:12 |
| shauno | just put a kit together. pretty thought-free, but I'm really out of practice, so it was entertaining | 23:13 |
| bigcalm | People with SIP experience. Why would an ekiga.net account not be able to call a sipgate.co.uk account and visa versa? | 23:19 |
| daftykins | shauno: neat - what does it do? :) | 23:34 |
| shauno | it beeps! | 23:34 |
| daftykins | :O | 23:35 |
| bigcalm | Does it have a blue led? | 23:36 |
| shauno | no :( | 23:36 |
| bigcalm | Pants | 23:36 |
| shauno | :( sorry | 23:36 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 23:36 |
| daftykins | go to your room XD | 23:37 |
| daftykins | hmm still hitting high temps, i'll save it for tomorrow to replace the thermal paste | 23:37 |
| daftykins | i don't like doing full disassemblies too late at night, i forget things the next day when putting them back together :D | 23:37 |
| bigcalm | Wow, it's late. Sleep now | 23:39 |
| daftykins | indeed! | 23:40 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
