[00:18] <cmaloney> Evening
[00:24] <rick_h_> party
[00:25] <rick_h_> cmaloney: let me know when you've got time to chat
[00:26] <cmaloney> one sec.
[01:55] <cmaloney> http://shop.gogameguru.com/kaya-go-board-86/
[01:55] <cmaloney> And people say I'm hard to shop for
[11:49] <cmaloney> morning
[12:36] <rick_h_> morning
[12:38] <brousch> yes
[12:40] <brousch> rick_h_: From what I've seen on GSoC I think you will only get 1 slot because you lack a second primary mentor
[12:40] <rick_h_> brousch: that's why I roped cmaloney into being a second :)
[12:41] <rick_h_> brousch: but yea, I agree my original plan of two students for one mentor is dashed
[12:41] <brousch> Each student needs 2 mentors
[12:41] <brousch> Unless you think they'll let you be primary on one and secondary on another, with cmaloney as the opposite
[12:42] <rick_h_> hmmm, might try it I guess
[12:43] <brousch> I wonder how you could demonstrate that you can handle 2 students
[12:44] <rick_h_> yea, not sure. I have this dream of making them have stand up calls together and code reviewing each other's branches and such
[12:45] <rick_h_> so I really want to get two to make it more 'team' like
[12:45] <mrgoodcat> hey all
[12:47] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: you might be able to convince a student to stay on even if they aren't chosen
[12:47] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: oh definitely
[12:47] <rick_h_> and I'll try that on some of the good ones to have mini-mentorship
[12:47] <rick_h_> if they're in it for the experience vs the $$ might get some interested folks
[12:47] <mrgoodcat> yea
[12:48] <mrgoodcat> are applications finished?
[12:48] <rick_h_> yea
[12:49] <mrgoodcat> that's gotta be a load off
[12:49] <mrgoodcat> so now you're just waiting to see which student(s) google gives you?
[12:49] <rick_h_> yea, so now we sit for a month, not allowed to talk about applications with students, while they wonder if they'll get selected :)
[12:50] <rick_h_> but yea, slowing down. Catching up a bit. Managed to get caught up on pull requests this past weekend yay
[12:50] <brousch> Hm, the message I got says talk to students and refine application. Then tell Google how many slots you want with an ordered list of your selected students
[12:51] <rick_h_> brousch: right
[12:51] <rick_h_> brousch: and it says not to talk to them about their ranking/etc
[12:51] <brousch> Ah, about their ranking
[12:53] <mrgoodcat> well that makes sense
[12:53] <mrgoodcat> i'd assume you wouldn't even if you could
[12:53] <mrgoodcat> i wouldn't anyways
[12:53] <mrgoodcat> might affect the relationship and/or cause hard feelings
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> "how come he got a 7 and i got a 6 when i made 4 pull requests and he made 3" and such stuff like that
[12:54] <rick_h_> oh yea, that's already started
[12:54] <rick_h_> I did tell one guy he was about 5th on the list
[12:54] <rick_h_> and he wanted to know who was about him
[12:54] <rick_h_> you know he wanted to compare code contributions/etc
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> yea i'd imagine every student that doesn't get picked is gonna want to know why and see if there's any way to appeal the process or something like that
[13:05] <mrgoodcat> anybody heard of https://keybase.io/?
[13:05] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yea, it's going around as the 'easy' pgp
[13:06] <mrgoodcat> i just heard about it today. have you used it yet? unfortunately there's a waiting list for an account
[13:06] <jrwren> the cmdline looks just like gpg.  maybe just alias keybase=gpg
[13:06] <rick_h_> no, if you need an inviate let me know. Lots of folks on my team have accounts
[13:06] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, it's the whole 'twitter verification' thing or what not seems to be the first thing that gets people
[13:07] <jrwren> zomg, I'd never twitter verify to them! :)
[13:07] <rick_h_> lol
[13:07] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: i'll let you know if i need one. i think one of my buddies from school has an invite though. he's the one that sent me the link this morning
[13:10] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: cool
[13:11] <mrgoodcat> i'm pretty excited about the service though. the only problem is it doesn't become useful until a bunch of people sign up and people won't sign up if it isn't useful
[13:26] <cmaloney> Good morning again.
[13:27] <rick_h_> heh, party party
[13:27] <cmaloney> Man, did not want to get up this morning
[13:27] <brousch> Did you shovel?
[13:33] <cmaloney> brousch: No, fortunately we have only had flurries over here.
[13:34] <cmaloney> Just tired. That's all.
[13:34] <cmaloney> Spent most of the night trying to sleep around the cat.
[13:34] <cmaloney> and some of it failing.
[13:59] <brousch> jrwren: Are you going to KalamazooX?
[14:05] <jrwren> yes.
[14:05] <jrwren> it shall be glorious!
[14:06] <jrwren> are you going?
[14:06] <brousch> I'll go if the boss will pay
[14:06] <brousch> glorious?
[14:07] <jrwren> sure, why not?
[14:07] <brousch> I'm skeptical
[14:07] <jrwren> why?
[14:07] <jrwren> it was great last year.
[14:07] <jrwren> best conference I've been to in years.
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> is it a tedx?
[14:07] <jrwren> no.
[14:07] <jrwren> TED sucks.
[14:08] <mrgoodcat> lol
[14:08] <mrgoodcat> just saw the x on the end and assumed
[14:08] <brousch> I went to 2 TEDx Grand Rapids conferences. they were pretty good
[14:08] <mrgoodcat> why hate ted?
[14:08] <mrgoodcat> ted's a cool guy
[14:09] <mrgoodcat> but seriously why don't you like TED conferences?
[14:09] <jrwren> they are all talk, no action.
[14:10] <widox> jrwren, brousch I'll be at KalamazooX
[14:10] <mrgoodcat> isn't that the definition of a conferene?
[14:10] <mrgoodcat> talking about things
[14:10] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: yes, and TED exaserbates the lack of action.
[14:10] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5cKRmJaf0
[14:10] <jrwren> there is a TED talk on what is wrong with ted talks
[14:13] <brousch> There. I worded the request so he almost has to approve it
[14:13] <brousch> "I would like to attend the KalamazooX Conference on Saturday, April 26. A ticket will cost $50, and it's about 100 miles round trip. This conference focuses on soft skills, which is what I often lack according to my yearly reviews."
[14:17] <waf> jrwren: interesting, you liked last year's kalamazooX conference? i thought it was pretty bad.
[14:17] <waf> searl's and rubybuddha's talks were good, but the rest of it was not for me
[14:18] <waf> though as far as i can tell, it's impossible for searls and rubybuddha to give bad talks, no matter what subject. they are amazing presenters.
[14:23] <jrwren> waf: really? what were you looking for?
[14:24] <jrwren> I loved all of them.
[14:24] <brousch> So full of love
[14:24] <jrwren> I thought searls was bottom of the bunch. still OK, but meh by comparison to the rest.
[14:26] <waf> most of the talks could have been read straight out of a self-help book
[14:27] <jrwren> hahaha
[14:27] <brousch> See that's why I am hesitant to attend
[14:27] <waf> brousch: give it a shot, most people liked it
[14:27] <brousch> I will if my boss pays ;)
[14:28] <waf> i liked searls's talk because he talked about real-life soft-skill challenges, and how he navigated the murky waters
[14:28] <waf> that was the sort of stuff i was expecting
[14:29] <waf> and it was useful. the stuff that was more like "find your center and be happy" i was a bit disappointed with
[14:29] <jrwren> waf: ah! that is understandable.
[14:29] <jrwren> waf: i just assumed all the talks are by people going through a midlife crisis.
[14:30] <waf> hahaha
[14:35] <Havenstance> welcome back mrgoodcat
[14:35] <Havenstance> morning everyone
[14:36] <jrwren> good morning
[14:38] <Havenstance> Got some real work for a few minute then I'll be back to "waste Time" :)
[15:15] <brousch> Response from boss re KzooX: "Nerdfest.  I'll cover the ticket and the mileage.  Bar tab is on you.  Live long and prosper."
[15:17] <waf> haha, nice
[15:22] <brousch> So, I'll be there
[15:31] <Havenstance> Thinking I might go myself
[15:34] <greg-g> brousch: I thought you didn't want to go?
[15:34] <greg-g> g'morning/almost afternoon, east coast
[15:35] <brousch> greg-g: I questioned the usefulness of the talks, but jrwren's endorsement made me thing more. Also, the boss is paying
[15:35] <brousch> think, too
[15:35] <greg-g> :)
[15:35] <greg-g> free trip's are good
[15:38] <Havenstance> I would be 10-1 I could get my boss to do the same if I asked lol
[15:38] <Havenstance> But I'll probably just foot the bill myself and go. I need a damn road trip
[15:40] <brousch> Havenstance: Feel free to use my wording to help you get funding
[15:40] <Havenstance> brousch, most likely my boss would send me just to improve my skills and usefulness to him
[15:40] <brousch> Exactly
[15:40] <Havenstance> He gave me the days off for Penguicon
[15:40] <Havenstance> I just have to reserve the ticket for that
[15:41] <brousch> I just have to show some business usefulness to the conference, and have it not be crazy expensive
[15:41] <Havenstance> he wants a list of the conferences and/or courses and he's said he'll pay for that too
[15:41] <brousch> Heh, he is paying for penguicon?
[15:41] <Havenstance> my problem is getting mileage out of him for the trip from Traverse City to Detroit
[15:41] <greg-g> wow, yeah, penguicon is a bit of a stretch :)
[15:42] <brousch> That's a bit of a drive
[15:42] <Havenstance> he wants me to improve my skills....
[15:42] <Havenstance> Its actually quite hilarious at the stupid shit this guy will pay for
[15:42] <greg-g> in drinking and polyamory with furries?
[15:42] <brousch> BTW, I will camping with my family in Traverse City this summer.
[15:42] <cmaloney> As someone who really likes Penguicon, that's a bit of a stretch. :)
[15:43] <cmaloney> But hey, come on down for the release party. :)
[15:43] <greg-g> Penguicon: The Weirdest Ubuntu Michigan Release Party Venue
[15:44] <cmaloney> Bah
[15:44] <cmaloney> Friday is nowhere near weird
[15:44] <cmaloney> Saturday night though...
[15:44] <greg-g> :)
[15:44] <cmaloney> "It's life Jim, but not as we know it"
[15:45] <havnestance3> they mentioned that the preview of ubuntu 14.10 would be shown there
[15:45] <havnestance3> he thinks that somehow requires my attention
[15:45] <havnestance3> er 14.04
[15:45] <cmaloney> orly?
[15:45] <cmaloney> 14.04 should be released by then
[15:45] <brousch> They?
[15:45] <havnestance3> i politely remided him that it'd be out by then
[15:45] <cmaloney> if we're lucky we'll have discs
[15:46] <havnestance3> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/venues/United_States/1100/detail/
[15:46] <havnestance3> he was like you might learn something here
[15:46] <cmaloney> Yeah, the names and faces of folks on IRC> :)
[15:46] <havnestance3> i was like if you mean how to get blasted & fuck nerdy girls yeah I might learn something
[15:47] <havnestance3> his response was classic "as long as you get some useful skills out of the class I don't care what you do with your dick"
[15:47] <greg-g> he should
[15:47] <havnestance3> yeah, I know me
[15:47] <havnestance3> alcohol + hot nerdy girls = no class for me
[15:48] <havnestance3> hell alchohol + girls = no class for me
[15:48] <greg-g> pro-tip: treat women well, with alcohol or not, and you'll find you have class :)
[15:48] <havnestance3> didn't have the heart to tell him that i've already been playing with 14.04 dailies at home
[15:48] <havnestance3> greg-g, im aware of that good sir :)
[15:49] <havnestance3> I just choose to hang out with the women vs being bored to tears all day
[15:49] <havnestance3> I would most certainly go to the release party though, because I'd be interested to see some of the major changes hilighted
[15:50] <brousch> cmaloney: Hear that? Now you need a formal presentation for 14.04.
[15:50] <havnestance3> he don't need a formal presentation :)\
[15:50] <brousch> I expect a proper slide deck with musical accompaniment
[15:50] <greg-g> havnestance3: :) :)
[15:51] <havnestance3> By then I'll have it loaded on a VM and be playing with it anyway
[15:51] <havnestance3> His release party could include spiked punch and I'm game
[15:53] <havnestance3> brousch, could just bring booze and say we are partying because its "Finally" out :)
[15:54] <brousch> I will not be there
[16:05] <havnestance3> heh, I'm not 100% that I will be yet either
[16:06] <havnestance3> He wants me to go but I may be switching jobs. I'm in the process of talking with another company who has already offered me 65k a year for what I know. Not the greatest salry but its pretty damn good for someone with no college
[16:52] <cmaloney> That's the great thing about a community - delegation. :)
[16:58] <jrwren> how many years of experience do you have?
[18:12] <cmaloney> Yay new Animals as Leaders album.
[18:35] <rick_h_> cmaloney: with http://r.bmark.us/u/976f93a3c1fc36 your storage is down from 200 to $50/mo
[18:37] <greg-g> typo in articled
[18:37] <greg-g> -d
[18:37] <brousch> Is anybody using Drive like Dropbox?
[18:37] <brousch> Can it even work like that on Linux?
[18:38] <greg-g> if you use git-annex :)
[18:38] <greg-g> git-annex supports gdrive
[18:39] <rick_h_> so this isn't gdrive but their compute cloud
[18:39] <rick_h_> oh, but you mean in reference to dropbox
[18:41] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Yeah, I'm starting to think seriously about offloading some of my less-critical backups
[18:42] <cmaloney> But I also need to consider what I'm going to do about my current storage as that's pretty maxed out.
[18:42]  * cmaloney just needs to bite the bullet and get some new drives.
[18:43] <cmaloney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7152547/
[18:43] <cmaloney> A lot of that can just be offloaded into cold storage
[18:43] <greg-g> dash h man, -h
[18:43] <cmaloney> (/home that is)
[18:44] <greg-g> 865gigs used in a 1tb (961gig) drive
[18:44] <cmaloney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7152552/
[18:44]  * greg-g hates having to highlight text to count digits :)
[18:44] <cmaloney> heh
[18:47] <rick_h_> cmaloney: -h man -h
[18:47] <rick_h_> oh, greg-g already got you
[18:47] <cmaloney> Jesus
[18:47] <rick_h_> nvm
[18:48] <brousch> cmaloney: D00d, did you know you can use -h to get more human-readable units?
[18:49] <cmaloney> Apparently df without -h is like tossing acid in people's eyes.
[18:49] <rick_h_> pretty much
[18:50] <brousch> It's like sitting on a rusty fence post. Please train yourself to always use it.
[18:56] <jrwren> /dev/mapper/datavg-music  4.7T  3.4T  1.2T  75% /music
[18:56] <jrwren> j/k
[18:56] <jrwren> did you know that sort can read the -h output?
[18:56] <jrwren> du -h | sort -hr | head
[18:56] <cmaloney> I did not know that.
[18:57] <jrwren> newer feature
[18:57] <jrwren> i know not when it was added
[18:58] <greg-g> jrwren: wait, just kidding that that is your music library?
[18:59] <jrwren> greg-g: right.
[19:00] <jrwren> greg-g: that is my movies, tv and music.
[19:00] <jrwren> /dev/mapper/datavg-nomirror  4.7T  3.4T  1.2T  75% /nomirror
[19:00] <jrwren> i doctored it ;)
[19:00] <greg-g> heh
[21:00] <greg-g> hmmm, my lastpass login takes substantially less long now (I had it set at the maximum number of hashes, to slow down repeat attempts)...
[21:31] <cmaloney> jrwren: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VgGMV22t-yw/UuauqiaCACI/AAAAAAAAAjw/cJd6VgGy77o/s480-no/785a2bc7-f6e9-4d7c-bfcc-3926cce91690
[21:32] <cmaloney> Didn't half recognize you in that photo. You look like you should be carting a Macbook Pro to a Rails conference.
[21:32] <cmaloney> ;)
[21:48] <cmaloney> Facebook acquires Occulus Rift
[21:48] <cmaloney> let the wailing and gnashing of teeth commence.
[23:20] <jrwren> lol
[23:20] <jrwren> cmaloney: its cold. I need the extra insulation
[23:37] <cmaloney> Heh
[23:48] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1wf6mg/so_no_way_to_confirm_this_but_my_friend_works_in/
[23:48] <jcastro> hahah
[23:48] <jcastro> man.
[23:48] <rick_h_> heh