[00:52] <ubuntustudio> hola
[01:08] <nreynolds> hi
[01:08] <nreynolds> anyone around?
[01:12] <nreynolds> got a few ?
[08:55] <cagritepebasili> hi
[08:55] <cfhowlett> cagritepebasili, hey.  US is usually used for developing - it's for multimedia creation
[08:57] <cagritepebasili> cfhowlett, i realize that actually, but i mean is that all ? just multimedia creation ?
[08:57] <cagritepebasili> for instnse im a programmer so what can i get from US
[08:58] <cfhowlett> cagritepebasili, it has everything the vanilla ubuntu has plus the multimedia creations apps overlaid on it
[08:58] <cfhowlett> cagritepebasili, not much benefit if you are not a creator - unsure why you think there might be ...
[08:58] <cagritepebasili> dont get me wrong btw im a new in linux
[08:58] <cfhowlett> cagritepebasili, OK try this:
[08:59] <cfhowlett> cagritepebasili, dell has the xps13 developer edition laptop with the customized sputnik ubuntu ISO.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> cagritepebasili, why not either install sputnik or add the sputnik packages to your ubuntu
[09:00] <cagritepebasili> why not u right
[09:00] <cfhowlett> http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.software-dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition.aspx
[23:19] <TerranceWarrior> is Ardour very buggy or is it just me?
[23:21] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: not here..
[23:21] <holstein> ardour3?
[23:23] <holstein> is it ardour? or JACK? ...are you trying to push your hardware too hard?
[23:26] <TerranceWarrior> thats what *she* said! :)
[23:27] <TerranceWarrior> i had ardour working fine well what fine is to ardour.
[23:27] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: ?
[23:27] <TerranceWarrior> exit, come back in again. poof no longer works.
[23:27] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i use it all the time, friend.. its quite stable, and solid here
[23:27] <TerranceWarrior> impossible to get going again. and I'm an ex software engineer.
[23:27] <TerranceWarrior> maybe I should use the source code version?
[23:27] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i mean, i dont consider it a compromise in any way.. i prefer it, and chose to use it
[23:28] <TerranceWarrior> I am just using whatever is in the ubuntu colletion.
[23:28] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i use the one from the repos, or the one from las on the site
[23:28] <TerranceWarrior> i'll try the latest.
[23:28] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: sure.. try the one from las, if you like.. i just pay for the latest binary
[23:28] <TerranceWarrior> i am so pissed today. nothing but trouble recording using sound recorder and then i find my new korg has 3 fucked up notes.
[23:29] <TerranceWarrior> the resonance of them is terrible.
[23:29] <TerranceWarrior> it's like a synth wrench in an otherwise good sound. all the others notes are fine.
[23:29] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: do  try and keep in a family show in here. thanks
[23:30] <holstein> you should be able to adjust in whatever sequencer you are using
[23:30] <holstein> or, play it in off an octave, and avoid the bad keys
[23:33] <TerranceWarrior> sorry
[23:33] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: ha, what a hack!
[23:34] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: ?
[23:34] <TerranceWarrior> it makes no sense to have some bad keys on a $1200 keyboard.
[23:34] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: you think its a hack to avoid the broken keys?
[23:34] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: absolutely.
[23:34] <holstein> ok
[23:34] <holstein> well, replace them?
[23:34] <holstein> im not sure how to respond to that..
[23:34] <TerranceWarrior> your not listening, it's not the keys, it's the sound they generate.
[23:34] <holstein> i mean, fix it, replace it, or work around it..
[23:34] <holstein> or deal with it
[23:34] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i dont think so
[23:35] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: dont use that sound then.. or, see if you can go in and adjust some settings
[23:35] <holstein> shouldnt be that 3 notes in one sound setting in that unit is "bad"
[23:35] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: yeah, i have to work more with it. but that is sound 00, the default!
[23:35] <TerranceWarrior> What a hack!
[23:35] <holstein> maybe you edited them by accedient
[23:35] <holstein> accident*
[23:35] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: maybe not.
[23:36] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: im not following you.. on "what a hack"
[23:36] <holstein> sounds like you have bad keys, or have edited the sound.. you can always just midi out from that unit, and see if the keys are effecting a sound that is not being gernerated from that unit
[23:37] <TerranceWarrior> i am going to check the speakers. but i feel that the source is the sound generation in this Korg.
[23:38] <holstein> sure.. put on some headphones.. that'll rule out the speakers.. try another voice, and an external voice as well
[23:38] <fibz_> i would think it's the korg
[23:38] <TerranceWarrior> all other notes are fine and these notes are directly in the middle, the worst place for them to be.
[23:39] <TerranceWarrior> fibz_: +1!
[23:39] <holstein> sure.. sounds like its the keys.. they get crap in them, or break
[23:39] <TerranceWarrior> fibz_: i like you, you're reasonable.
[23:39] <holstein> you'll be able to tell by bypassing the internal voices
[23:39] <fibz_> which sucks because im sure it wasnt cheap
[23:40] <holstein> the keys usually are.. under $20 US
[23:40] <holstein> for most models
[23:40] <fibz_> i dont think it's the key ut the logic
[23:40] <holstein> yeah, you wouldnt.. but, it can be
[23:40] <holstein> the mechanism
[23:40] <holstein> i have a yamaha like that.. and i cleaned out a few alesis's like that recently
[23:41] <holstein> same deal... stuck on "loud" pretty much.. but, those were just dirty
[23:41] <holstein> but.. what do i know.. i just fix things when they are broken ;)
[23:46] <TerranceWarrior> The D Key is terrible on headphones, the other ones got a bit better.
[23:47] <holstein> so, its likely not the speakers then
[23:47] <TerranceWarrior> yamaha has terrible sound but they made decent grade hammer keys.
[23:47] <TerranceWarrior> This is not funny, nor this is a joke.
[23:47] <holstein> probably either the logic boards or the keys/mechanism
[23:47] <TerranceWarrior> thing is i have proof that it is really bad.
[23:48] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: im not joking, or laughing at you
[23:48] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: im not saying its not bad
[23:48] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: im suggesting what i think could be the issue.. but, i'll just leave you to it
[23:48] <fibz_> worth breaking it down and taking a look, or just return if in warranty
[23:49] <holstein> ^yup.. it could be an easy clean to fix type thing..
[23:50] <TerranceWarrior> what else could I get in it features set or price range?
[23:50] <TerranceWarrior> This is not good.
[23:50] <holstein> im not suggesting a replacement
[23:51] <holstein> id just fix that one
[23:51] <TerranceWarrior> This happened to me 2 years ago with a Flamenco Yahmaha Guitar.
[23:51] <holstein> not likely...
[23:51] <holstein> guitars are quite different
[23:51] <fibz_> i like roland
[23:51] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: Can I borry your oscilliscope and chip making facilities?
[23:51] <holstein> anyways.. i would diagnose what the issue is.. and even if its a board, i would think about replacing it
[23:51] <TerranceWarrior> fibz_: ok! :) Thats *something*.
[23:52] <fibz_> casio has a good model but the keys are loud
[23:52] <TerranceWarrior> All the other notes I love on this though.
[23:52] <TerranceWarrior> Does this happen in the industry?
[23:52] <holstein> then, just use those
[23:52] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: yes
[23:52] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: are you okay?
[23:52] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: it happens to *all* gear, at some point... they can all get dirty or break
[23:52] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: you have in your mind that this is a mechanical problem. of which I'm not sure why.
[23:53] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: when i encountered the exact issue you are explaing on more than one keyboard, cleaning the mechanism repaired it
[23:53] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: if you say so.
[23:53] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: because, as i stated, when i cleaned the mechanical mechanisem on more than one unit that had that exact issue, it addressed that issue
[23:53] <TerranceWarrior> it's 7 days old!
[23:53] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: then, as already suggested, return it to the store
[23:56] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: E.P. Mark V Distortion and those same keys are fine.
[23:56] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: ok. enjoy it then
[23:56] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i would return it
[23:56] <TerranceWarrior> It's a recording or electronic generation error.
[23:57] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: could be the distortion has different settings that equalize the sounds a bit more, and make the issue less obvious
[23:57] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: ok
[23:57] <TerranceWarrior> I get the feeling it's a design issue.
[23:57] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: are you new to music?
[23:57] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: no
[23:57] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: im a volunteer here
[23:58] <TerranceWarrior> argh
[23:58] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i also repair many instuments.. but, i'll just wait til you have a question, if you prefer
[23:58] <TerranceWarrior> not happy.
[23:58] <fibz_> there is also #opensourcemusicians
[23:58] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i would just return it, and ask
[23:58] <TerranceWarrior> fibz_: yes thank you.