[02:03] <RPG-Master> I'm not able to upgrade, I keep running into this error: http://imgur.com/cVjlEP2
[02:10] <pepee> RPG-Master, how are you running it?
[02:10] <roasted> hello friends
[02:10] <roasted> has anybody noticed on 14.04 that their bluetooth flat out isn't detected?
[02:10] <RPG-Master> pepee: I'm trying to upgrade from 13.10
[02:11] <pepee> RPG-Master, yeah, but how, from the console?
[02:12] <RPG-Master> oops
[02:13] <RPG-Master> But yeah, I'm sorry, I ran update-manager-d from the Alt+F2 menu
[02:14] <pepee> did you run it before?
[02:14] <RPG-Master> I've done it in the past, yeah
[02:15] <RPG-Master> But this is actually like my 3rd time trying from Alt+F4
[02:15] <RPG-Master> Alt+F2
[02:15] <pepee> I mean, this time, did you run it more than once?
[02:15] <RPG-Master> I tried 2 times about 4 days ago
[02:16] <RPG-Master> This is my first time today
[02:16] <pepee> can you run lsb_release from the console?
[02:16] <RPG-Master> "No LSB modules are available."
[02:17] <pepee> run:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_RELEASE=13.10
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_CODENAME=saucy
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 13.10"
[02:19] <pepee> well, perhaps you are using a non-official repo?
[02:19] <RPG-Master> ...You mean non-PPA repos?
[02:20] <RPG-Master> I thought the upgrade dialog mentioned temporarily disabling them?
[02:20] <pepee> yes, that's what the dialog says
[02:20] <pepee> I have no idea, though, I usually upgrade in a different way
[02:21] <RPG-Master> I'll try manually disabling all my unofficial repos.
[02:27] <RPG-Master> I think that did it. We'll see.
[02:32] <RPG-Master> Nope, didn't work. Ran into the same error.
[02:32] <RPG-Master> So, pepee, how do you upgrade?
[02:34] <pepee> either by modifying the repo lists directly (which I'm not sure is correct), or from the console, with do-release-upgrade
[02:34] <rww> it tends to work. it's not supported
[02:35] <RPG-Master> should I try do-release-upgrade?
[02:35] <rww> (do-release-upgrade (which is fully support) and its GUI equivalent are programmed to deal with any quirks that are known to be possible during the upgrade, hence them being recommended)
[02:35] <rww> RPG-Master: worth a try, yes
[02:35] <pepee> RPG-Master, make sure the system is in a consistent state
[02:35] <rww> s/support/supported/
[02:35] <pepee> otherwise, it may break some things :)
[02:36] <pepee> also, I think the best time to do an upgrade is at night, because usually there are not new packages
[02:36] <ggreer> I have a weird/scary problem with my thinkpad x140e running 14.04: if I close the lid, it sleeps. when I open the lid, I see my previous screen for a fraction of a second, then the lock screen shows up
[02:36] <pepee> night, american time...
[02:37] <ggreer> if I'm quick enough with the mouse, I can focus an existing app before the lock screen takes over
[02:37] <ggreer> and the instead of typing in the password field, I can type in the terminal or browser
[02:37] <ggreer> *then instead
[02:38] <ggreer> to work around this, I have to lock my computer before sleeping it
[02:39] <RPG-Master> do-release-upgrade just said "No new releases found". do I need to add an argument to it?
[02:39] <ggreer> once the lock screen is displayed, there seems to be no risk (unless maybe OOM-killer kills the lock screen some time later, but I haven't had that happen in a decade)
[02:39] <RPG-Master> nvm, added -d
[02:39] <ggreer> RPG-Master: do-release-upgrade -d probably
[02:39] <ggreer> :)
[02:40] <RPG-Master> :P
[02:40] <ggreer> may the force be with you and all that
[02:40] <ggreer> actually, 14.04 is surprisingly stable
[02:42] <RPG-Master> Yep, got the same error message, just this time in the terminal
[02:43] <ggreer> aw
[02:43] <ggreer> I read the backlog. I have no idea what the problem could be
[02:43] <RPG-Master> I'm seeing a lot of stuff like "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en_US"
[02:44] <RPG-Master> Err is a weird way of shortening Error?
[02:44] <rww> yes
[02:44] <ggreer> almost certainly
[02:44] <RPG-Master> Making sure
[02:44] <rww> translations tend to error out though because Reasons
[02:44] <rww> least they did last time I checked
[02:44] <rww> could try a different mirror though I guess
[02:45] <RPG-Master> Yeah, all the "Err" in the terminal involved translation related stuff
[02:46] <RPG-Master> So instead of "Main Server" I should just try "Server for United States"?
[03:02] <RPG-Master> nope, not working for me
[03:14] <RPG-Master> It would seem the "unsupported" method, as used by pepee, is working for me
[03:17] <rww> \o/
[03:36] <Blue1> where can I report a bug I found in 14.04?  I am in launchpad.net
[03:37] <nlsthzn> hi, installed latest daily of Xubuntu 14.04 yesterday and I don't have a volume indicator in the panel? Known issue or my bad luck?
[03:39] <Blue1> nlsthzn: I have it in 14.04 gnome
[03:39] <Blue1> not tried xubuntu
[03:39] <Blue1> cups is broken on my system here -- so I can't add a printer
[04:13] <nlsthzn> I have had volume indicator in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Gnome also... only missing in Xubuntu
[04:14] <nlsthzn> volume control works with keyboard shortcuts
[06:51] <cesurasean1> thanks yall!
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> hey, should I report this as a bug
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> when switching accounts from akiva to guest, and then switching back from guest to akiva
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> when switching back, I have to enter my password to log back in
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> and then I have to enter my password again, to unlock the screen
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> that is really annoying.
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> Also, akiva is set to not have to unlock.
[10:03] <cyberalex4life> hello, I have a graffical bug in gufw (rules and listening frames are only big as one row each and also some drop down menu can't be seen correctly the first time I select them)
[10:04] <cyberalex4life> should I report it, or is it already known and taken care of. I haven't used much ubuntu daily builds so I don't realy know...
[10:07] <cyberalex4life> it looks kind of in here http://iloveubuntu.net/handy-firewall-app-gufw-1404-released-ubuntu-1404-support  but when there's activity it won't expand
[10:12] <CyborgCygnus> Sounds like you should report it in the launchpad, you'll get an answer eventually if it's already been reported. Since it's a daily build I'd recommend waiting & seeing what the next few days updates do. I'm currently on a xubuntu 14.04 daily & I've worked out even though I've been updating since the alpha, a current daily image (since xubuntu provides those) always run better than my updated from alpha version.
[10:13] <CyborgCygnus> cyberalex4life, I'm not sure of your level of experience with os's but if you're after something more usable & less buggy then perhaps wait for the stable release, unless you're wanting to be a bug reporter.
[10:17] <cyberalex4life> trusty is verry stable
[10:17] <cyberalex4life> actionally this is one of the few bugs it has
[10:18] <cyberalex4life> I've seen worse in 13.04 an 13.10
[10:28] <cyberalex4life> for me, reporting bugs is investing in the future stability and hardware compatibility of my system
[10:29] <akiva-mobile> Cmake is not letting me built unity8. I tried this on 13.10, and 14.04, and am getting the same error
[10:31] <akiva-mobile> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:64 (message):
[10:31] <akiva-mobile>   Could not determine plugin installation dir.
[10:32] <akiva-mobile> I have little experience with cmake; can anyone tell me if there is just a command I have to put in after ./build?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:07] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, morning
[12:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning akiva-mobile
[12:08] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, Developing anything interesting?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> not a dev, just an edgy user :)
[12:09] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, ever thought of developing?
[12:09] <akiva-mobile> and nice :)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> tester as well, too lazy to learn dev work and what it requires :)
[12:11] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, ha ha; fair enough. Its an annoying hurdle to say the least.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> afraid i couldn't commit to the time required aswell, since >i have other interests that keep me occupied
[12:13] <BluesKaj> akiva-mobile, and I'm old and grumpy and lose patience :)
[12:14] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, but you have a heart of gold.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> akiva-mobile, thanks, I sure hope so :)
[12:42] <antagomir> i recently made fresh installation of ubuntu 14.04 on my HP Folio 9470m laptop. It has worked fine. Last night I turned the laptop off (as every night). This morning I turned it on and logged in. After login, I have an empty screen. I can open the terminal with ctrl-alt-t as usual, and open browser etc from command line. But the desktop system does not seem to work. How to fix this?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> antagomir, try the virtual terminal/tty ctl+alt +F1-F6 , login , the update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, then reboot, see if that works for you.
[12:51] <antagomir> Ok, I will try now. Tnx.
[13:13] <antagomir> BluesKaj: did not help. Now I can't even get the terminal with ctrl+alt+t
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F1 , antagomir , that will get you to a virtual terminal
[13:17] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+t, doesn't work amymore afaik
[13:17] <BluesKaj> anymore
[13:18] <k1l_> works here
[13:18] <antagomir> jes it also worked for me before this
[13:19] <antagomir> anyway, now i'm in virtual terminal. i tried with gdm and lightdm but neither works
[13:23] <BluesKaj> did you update and upgrade?
[13:25] <antagomir> yes
[13:25] <BluesKaj> run startx
[13:25] <BluesKaj> if it uses X
[13:26] <BluesKaj> KDE here , so no sure what's going on with ubuntu and mir
[13:28] <antagomir> does not help much
[13:28] <antagomir> i get to the desktop screen but it is still blanl
[13:28] <antagomir> blank
[13:29] <antagomir> now the ctrl+alt+t brings terminal again, thgough
[13:29] <k1l_> video card driver installed?
[13:29] <antagomir> no idea
[13:29] <k1l_> modul get build?
[13:29] <antagomir> but this worked still yesterday
[13:29] <antagomir> how to check?
[13:32] <vanadis> oh hai
[13:33] <vanadis> Is there anything problematic about installing the latest 14.04 beta now and upgrading it then to the final as soon as it arrives?
[13:36] <hyde> vanadis: it's beta
[13:36] <hyde> in other words, nobody really knows for sure if there's anything problematic
[13:37] <hyde> or can promise there probably will not be anything problematic
[13:41] <BluesKaj> vanadis, depends on the hardware and available drivers, no one can predict without that info how your install will run
[13:48] <antagomir> BluesKaj: shall i just do fresh reinstall since nothing works any more
[13:48] <antagomir> or well, works but not on the desktop
[14:11] <BluesKaj> antagomir, run this, we need to see what graphics chipset and driver you have, lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga
[14:14] <antagomir> ok tnx. the output is here: http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd60
[14:17] <antagomir> BluesKaj: see http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd60
[14:17] <BluesKaj> antagomir, same driver that I use, but I'm not sure why it behaves differently on ubuntu vs kubuntu
[14:18] <antagomir> hm
[14:18] <antagomir> everything worked fine untilt this morning
[14:18] <BluesKaj> antagomir, are you actually on 14.04?
[14:18] <antagomir> i think so, what you mean?
[14:19] <vanadis> kthx hyde / BluesKaj
[14:19] <antagomir> BluesKaj i think so, what you mean?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> antagomir, because the drivers behave differently
[14:22] <antagomir> BluesKaj at least the login screen mentions 14.04
[14:23] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:26] <antagomir> I tried to switch to UEFI Native mode in BIOS. Now after turning on I see the message: "No bootable image found. Notebook will shutdown.". I can't get to BIOS settings any more.
[14:26] <antagomir> Any idea how I can switch back from UEFI model
[14:28] <BluesKaj> f2 on , delete on some and f12 ands fn +f2 on others
[14:30] <BluesKaj> to get the uefibios
[14:31] <antagomir> tnx
[15:39] <mardan> hi is it possible to install Banshee 2.9.1?
[15:45] <ikonia> mardan: is it the repos ?
[15:47] <mardan> no
[15:48] <mardan> in repos is 2.6
[15:48] <mardan> 2.9.0+really2.6.2
[15:49] <mardan> and can't find any ppa for trusty
[15:49] <ikonia> ok, so there is your answer then
[15:50] <BluesKaj> mardan, try the dailies
[15:50] <mardan> BluesKaj, nothing for trusty
[15:52] <BluesKaj> nothing? how do you mean?
[15:53] <mardan> there is no daily build for 14.04
[15:53] <BluesKaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:54] <mardan> BluesKaj, there will be ver really2.6.2
[15:57]  * BluesKaj shrugs, mardan, if you're hung up on banshee, then my condolences
[15:57] <mardan> well rhytmbox can not play 3 songs
[15:58] <mardan> amarock is for kde
[15:58] <mardan> so that was best solution
[15:58] <mardan> (rhytmbox crash after 5 min)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> that's one of the reasons I use VLC for media playback and the KDE desktop
[16:00] <mardan> hm I am using vlc for video .... since I love foobar maybe I will tray to change
[16:01] <BluesKaj> too many probs with unity/gnome atm on 14.04 ...tried yesterday to see how it would run on my desktop pc ,....gave up after 3 hrs, just not my style either
[16:03] <mardan> and now you are using kubuntu?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> i have been for 10yrs, tried to like gnome, but it just didn't workout
[16:06] <BluesKaj> well almost 10 yrs :)
[16:11] <mardan> heheh me to .... but gnome/unity have something that make you love it after like one week .... kde have best app on other hand
[16:12] <mardan> btw that nautilus was change by "file" can I install any addons?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> correction ,almost 9yrs , I did start out with ubuntu 4.10, my memory ain't so good :)
[16:20] <mardan> hehehehe its like first love ;)
[16:53] <mathuin> I have two systems running 12.04.4 LTS.  I would like to run 14.04 LTS Beta 1 on those machines.  Should I wipe those machines before installing the beta, or is there a way to upgrade using apt-get?
[16:54] <ikonia> check the topic
[16:54] <ikonia> as I said
[16:54] <ikonia> and again, you never upgrade with apt-get as I told you in #ubuntu
[16:54] <mathuin> It's funny you say never upgrade with apt-get, when that's exactly how I've done it for the past two years within this LTS, and for years before.
[16:54] <ikonia> if you're doing a wipe of the disk that is not an upgrade, but a clean install, so you'll need install media for 14.04
[16:54] <ikonia> well, it's wrong
[16:55] <Pici> You need to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade your release.
[16:55] <Pici> not apt-get.
[16:55] <Pici> rather, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to another release.
[16:55] <mathuin> Pici: can I use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to the beta, or do I need to wait for the release?
[16:55] <mathuin> I have a project with a shrinking deadline, so I can't wait for April 17.
[16:55] <ikonia> Pici: has update-manager been removed as a supported method ?
[16:56] <Pici> ikonia: it still should work.  I just do everything in the terminal these days I forget about the gui options.
[16:56] <Pici> mathuin: you should be able to, but you should check out the beta release notes in case there are any issues with that process.
[16:57] <mathuin> Pici: when looking at the 12.04 server guide I see that I can use the option -d to upgrade to a development version.  Is it reasonable to expect that that switch will do what I want?  I'm checking the release notes now.
[16:57] <ikonia> you can always "man do-release-upgrade"
[16:57] <ikonia> to verify the options are current
[16:58] <mathuin> The option says "latest release".  If that means Beta 1 I should be fine.
[16:58] <mathuin> (it says that in the manual page, which I had open)
[16:58] <ikonia> what does -d say in the man page ?
[16:59] <mathuin> "Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible".
[16:59] <ikonia> there we go then
[16:59] <mathuin> So _if_ this is the latest devel release then I'm fine, and that's what I was asking.
[16:59] <ikonia> what other dev release is there ?
[16:59] <Pici> it will prompt you before doing anything anyway
[17:00] <mathuin> ikonia: if I knew that, I wouldn't've asked.
[17:00] <ikonia> ok, well there isn't one
[17:00] <mathuin> Pici: okay, thanks.  I saw it download stuff with 'trusty' in the name, so at least I'm on the right release.
[17:05] <mathuin> http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6351/
[17:05] <mathuin> Thanks. :-)
[18:34] <sandGorgon> Is gnome 3.12 going to come to 14.04?
[18:58] <k1l_> !info gnome
[18:58] <k1l_> sandGorgon: ^
[20:09] <johnjohn101> I need help. i can't reset my ui size to 1 on the display screen
[20:10] <johnjohn101> there is NO way to scroll to that setting
[20:11] <johnjohn101> it's going to need to be fixed
[20:22] <Konstigt> Am reading that GTK+ gains Google Cloud Print support. Does that help me, running Trusty Tahr?
[20:24] <Konstigt> I have found this 3rd party app: http://www.niftiestsoftware.com/cups-cloud-print/
[20:24] <GZA-Genius> hey all, I am getting a crash report every time I reboot and log into account the first time, it seems that system is not picking up my CPU correctly dmesg is returning ([   17.200780] AVX2 or AES-NI instructions are not detected.) Also when I go into VMware Workstation and go to setup a VM if I pick 4cpu's it gives me a warning that I am choosing more cores than available. (That msg was never returned on 13.10) I know this in not VM sup
[20:24] <GZA-Genius> port I just bring that up because that data supports theory that something is up between sys>cpu. Any ideas/info would be greatly appreciated
[20:38] <k1l_> !info cinnamon
[20:58] <fibz_> anyone else experiencing this? when sending a remote shutdown command, the system requires some one to press the power button to complete shutdown
[21:00] <llutz> fibz_: have you tried using "poweroff" not shutdown command?
[21:01] <fibz_> nope
[21:03] <fibz_> yup that works, thanks llutz
[21:47] <TJ-> fibz_: Are you doing "shutdown -h ..." or "shutdown -P ..." ?
[21:48] <akiva-mobile> hey I am trying to build mir, and I am getting this error ./cross-compile-chroot.sh: line 83: popd: build-android-arm: invalid argument
[21:51] <akiva-mobile> nvm; just going to grab the mir-devel
[21:51] <trism> akiva-mobile: bug 1287600
[21:51] <trism> although apparently fixed
[21:51] <akiva-mobile> trism, Yah I thought I had the devel version, but apparently not