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RPG-MasterI'm not able to upgrade, I keep running into this error: http://imgur.com/cVjlEP202:03
pepeeRPG-Master, how are you running it?02:10
roastedhello friends02:10
roastedhas anybody noticed on 14.04 that their bluetooth flat out isn't detected?02:10
RPG-Masterpepee: I'm trying to upgrade from 13.1002:10
pepeeRPG-Master, yeah, but how, from the console?02:11
RPG-Masteroops02:12
RPG-MasterBut yeah, I'm sorry, I ran update-manager-d from the Alt+F2 menu02:13
pepeedid you run it before?02:14
RPG-MasterI've done it in the past, yeah02:14
RPG-MasterBut this is actually like my 3rd time trying from Alt+F402:15
RPG-MasterAlt+F202:15
pepeeI mean, this time, did you run it more than once?02:15
RPG-MasterI tried 2 times about 4 days ago02:15
RPG-MasterThis is my first time today02:16
pepeecan you run lsb_release from the console?02:16
RPG-Master"No LSB modules are available."02:16
pepeerun:  cat /etc/lsb-release02:17
RPG-MasterDISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu02:18
RPG-MasterDISTRIB_RELEASE=13.1002:18
RPG-MasterDISTRIB_CODENAME=saucy02:18
RPG-MasterDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 13.10"02:18
pepeewell, perhaps you are using a non-official repo?02:19
RPG-Master...You mean non-PPA repos?02:19
RPG-MasterI thought the upgrade dialog mentioned temporarily disabling them?02:20
pepeeyes, that's what the dialog says02:20
pepeeI have no idea, though, I usually upgrade in a different way02:20
RPG-MasterI'll try manually disabling all my unofficial repos.02:21
RPG-MasterI think that did it. We'll see.02:27
RPG-MasterNope, didn't work. Ran into the same error.02:32
RPG-MasterSo, pepee, how do you upgrade?02:32
pepeeeither by modifying the repo lists directly (which I'm not sure is correct), or from the console, with do-release-upgrade02:34
rwwit tends to work. it's not supported02:34
RPG-Mastershould I try do-release-upgrade?02:35
rww(do-release-upgrade (which is fully support) and its GUI equivalent are programmed to deal with any quirks that are known to be possible during the upgrade, hence them being recommended)02:35
rwwRPG-Master: worth a try, yes02:35
pepeeRPG-Master, make sure the system is in a consistent state02:35
rwws/support/supported/02:35
pepeeotherwise, it may break some things :)02:35
pepeealso, I think the best time to do an upgrade is at night, because usually there are not new packages02:36
ggreerI have a weird/scary problem with my thinkpad x140e running 14.04: if I close the lid, it sleeps. when I open the lid, I see my previous screen for a fraction of a second, then the lock screen shows up02:36
pepeenight, american time...02:36
ggreerif I'm quick enough with the mouse, I can focus an existing app before the lock screen takes over02:37
ggreerand the instead of typing in the password field, I can type in the terminal or browser02:37
ggreer*then instead02:37
ggreerto work around this, I have to lock my computer before sleeping it02:38
RPG-Masterdo-release-upgrade just said "No new releases found". do I need to add an argument to it?02:39
ggreeronce the lock screen is displayed, there seems to be no risk (unless maybe OOM-killer kills the lock screen some time later, but I haven't had that happen in a decade)02:39
RPG-Masternvm, added -d02:39
ggreerRPG-Master: do-release-upgrade -d probably02:39
ggreer:)02:39
RPG-Master:P02:40
ggreermay the force be with you and all that02:40
ggreeractually, 14.04 is surprisingly stable02:40
RPG-MasterYep, got the same error message, just this time in the terminal02:42
ggreeraw02:43
ggreerI read the backlog. I have no idea what the problem could be02:43
RPG-MasterI'm seeing a lot of stuff like "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en_US"02:43
RPG-MasterErr is a weird way of shortening Error?02:44
rwwyes02:44
ggreeralmost certainly02:44
RPG-MasterMaking sure02:44
rwwtranslations tend to error out though because Reasons02:44
rwwleast they did last time I checked02:44
rwwcould try a different mirror though I guess02:44
RPG-MasterYeah, all the "Err" in the terminal involved translation related stuff02:45
RPG-MasterSo instead of "Main Server" I should just try "Server for United States"?02:46
RPG-Masternope, not working for me03:02
RPG-MasterIt would seem the "unsupported" method, as used by pepee, is working for me03:14
rww\o/03:17
Blue1where can I report a bug I found in 14.04?  I am in launchpad.net03:36
nlsthznhi, installed latest daily of Xubuntu 14.04 yesterday and I don't have a volume indicator in the panel? Known issue or my bad luck?03:37
Blue1nlsthzn: I have it in 14.04 gnome03:39
Blue1not tried xubuntu03:39
Blue1cups is broken on my system here -- so I can't add a printer03:39
nlsthznI have had volume indicator in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Gnome also... only missing in Xubuntu04:13
nlsthznvolume control works with keyboard shortcuts04:14
cesurasean1thanks yall!06:51
akiva-mobilehey, should I report this as a bug07:06
akiva-mobilewhen switching accounts from akiva to guest, and then switching back from guest to akiva07:07
akiva-mobilewhen switching back, I have to enter my password to log back in07:07
akiva-mobileand then I have to enter my password again, to unlock the screen07:07
akiva-mobilethat is really annoying.07:07
akiva-mobileAlso, akiva is set to not have to unlock.07:08
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cyberalex4lifehello, I have a graffical bug in gufw (rules and listening frames are only big as one row each and also some drop down menu can't be seen correctly the first time I select them)10:03
cyberalex4lifeshould I report it, or is it already known and taken care of. I haven't used much ubuntu daily builds so I don't realy know...10:04
cyberalex4lifeit looks kind of in here http://iloveubuntu.net/handy-firewall-app-gufw-1404-released-ubuntu-1404-support  but when there's activity it won't expand10:07
CyborgCygnusSounds like you should report it in the launchpad, you'll get an answer eventually if it's already been reported. Since it's a daily build I'd recommend waiting & seeing what the next few days updates do. I'm currently on a xubuntu 14.04 daily & I've worked out even though I've been updating since the alpha, a current daily image (since xubuntu provides those) always run better than my updated from alpha version.10:12
CyborgCygnuscyberalex4life, I'm not sure of your level of experience with os's but if you're after something more usable & less buggy then perhaps wait for the stable release, unless you're wanting to be a bug reporter.10:13
cyberalex4lifetrusty is verry stable10:17
cyberalex4lifeactionally this is one of the few bugs it has10:17
cyberalex4lifeI've seen worse in 13.04 an 13.1010:18
cyberalex4lifefor me, reporting bugs is investing in the future stability and hardware compatibility of my system10:28
akiva-mobileCmake is not letting me built unity8. I tried this on 13.10, and 14.04, and am getting the same error10:29
akiva-mobileCMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:64 (message):10:31
akiva-mobile  Could not determine plugin installation dir.10:31
akiva-mobileI have little experience with cmake; can anyone tell me if there is just a command I have to put in after ./build?10:32
BluesKaj'Morning all11:35
akiva-mobileBluesKaj, morning12:07
BluesKaj'Morning akiva-mobile12:08
akiva-mobileBluesKaj, Developing anything interesting?12:08
BluesKajnot a dev, just an edgy user :)12:09
akiva-mobileBluesKaj, ever thought of developing?12:09
akiva-mobileand nice :)12:09
BluesKajtester as well, too lazy to learn dev work and what it requires :)12:10
akiva-mobileBluesKaj, ha ha; fair enough. Its an annoying hurdle to say the least.12:11
BluesKajafraid i couldn't commit to the time required aswell, since >i have other interests that keep me occupied12:11
BluesKajakiva-mobile, and I'm old and grumpy and lose patience :)12:13
akiva-mobileBluesKaj, but you have a heart of gold.12:14
BluesKajakiva-mobile, thanks, I sure hope so :)12:15
antagomiri recently made fresh installation of ubuntu 14.04 on my HP Folio 9470m laptop. It has worked fine. Last night I turned the laptop off (as every night). This morning I turned it on and logged in. After login, I have an empty screen. I can open the terminal with ctrl-alt-t as usual, and open browser etc from command line. But the desktop system does not seem to work. How to fix this?12:42
BluesKajantagomir, try the virtual terminal/tty ctl+alt +F1-F6 , login , the update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, then reboot, see if that works for you.12:48
antagomirOk, I will try now. Tnx.12:51
antagomirBluesKaj: did not help. Now I can't even get the terminal with ctrl+alt+t13:13
BluesKajctrl+alt+F1 , antagomir , that will get you to a virtual terminal13:16
BluesKajctl+alt+t, doesn't work amymore afaik13:17
BluesKajanymore13:17
k1l_works here13:18
antagomirjes it also worked for me before this13:18
antagomiranyway, now i'm in virtual terminal. i tried with gdm and lightdm but neither works13:19
BluesKajdid you update and upgrade?13:23
antagomiryes13:25
BluesKajrun startx13:25
BluesKajif it uses X13:25
BluesKajKDE here , so no sure what's going on with ubuntu and mir13:26
antagomirdoes not help much13:28
antagomiri get to the desktop screen but it is still blanl13:28
antagomirblank13:28
antagomirnow the ctrl+alt+t brings terminal again, thgough13:29
k1l_video card driver installed?13:29
antagomirno idea13:29
k1l_modul get build?13:29
antagomirbut this worked still yesterday13:29
antagomirhow to check?13:29
vanadisoh hai13:32
vanadisIs there anything problematic about installing the latest 14.04 beta now and upgrading it then to the final as soon as it arrives?13:33
hydevanadis: it's beta13:36
hydein other words, nobody really knows for sure if there's anything problematic13:36
hydeor can promise there probably will not be anything problematic13:37
BluesKajvanadis, depends on the hardware and available drivers, no one can predict without that info how your install will run13:41
antagomirBluesKaj: shall i just do fresh reinstall since nothing works any more13:48
antagomiror well, works but not on the desktop13:48
BluesKajantagomir, run this, we need to see what graphics chipset and driver you have, lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga14:11
antagomirok tnx. the output is here: http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd6014:14
antagomirBluesKaj: see http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd6014:17
BluesKajantagomir, same driver that I use, but I'm not sure why it behaves differently on ubuntu vs kubuntu14:17
antagomirhm14:18
antagomireverything worked fine untilt this morning14:18
BluesKajantagomir, are you actually on 14.04?14:18
antagomiri think so, what you mean?14:18
vanadiskthx hyde / BluesKaj14:19
antagomirBluesKaj i think so, what you mean?14:19
BluesKajantagomir, because the drivers behave differently14:22
antagomirBluesKaj at least the login screen mentions 14.0414:22
BluesKajok14:23
antagomirI tried to switch to UEFI Native mode in BIOS. Now after turning on I see the message: "No bootable image found. Notebook will shutdown.". I can't get to BIOS settings any more.14:26
antagomirAny idea how I can switch back from UEFI model14:26
BluesKajf2 on , delete on some and f12 ands fn +f2 on others14:28
BluesKajto get the uefibios14:30
antagomirtnx14:31
mardanhi is it possible to install Banshee 2.9.1?15:39
ikoniamardan: is it the repos ?15:45
mardanno15:47
mardanin repos is 2.615:48
mardan2.9.0+really2.6.215:48
mardanand can't find any ppa for trusty15:49
ikoniaok, so there is your answer then15:49
BluesKajmardan, try the dailies15:50
mardanBluesKaj, nothing for trusty15:50
BluesKajnothing? how do you mean?15:52
mardanthere is no daily build for 14.0415:53
BluesKajhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/15:53
mardanBluesKaj, there will be ver really2.6.215:54
* BluesKaj shrugs, mardan, if you're hung up on banshee, then my condolences15:57
mardanwell rhytmbox can not play 3 songs15:57
mardanamarock is for kde15:58
mardanso that was best solution15:58
mardan(rhytmbox crash after 5 min)15:58
BluesKajthat's one of the reasons I use VLC for media playback and the KDE desktop15:59
mardanhm I am using vlc for video .... since I love foobar maybe I will tray to change16:00
BluesKajtoo many probs with unity/gnome atm on 14.04 ...tried yesterday to see how it would run on my desktop pc ,....gave up after 3 hrs, just not my style either16:01
mardanand now you are using kubuntu?16:03
BluesKaji have been for 10yrs, tried to like gnome, but it just didn't workout16:04
BluesKajwell almost 10 yrs :)16:06
mardanheheh me to .... but gnome/unity have something that make you love it after like one week .... kde have best app on other hand16:11
mardanbtw that nautilus was change by "file" can I install any addons?16:12
BluesKajcorrection ,almost 9yrs , I did start out with ubuntu 4.10, my memory ain't so good :)16:19
mardanhehehehe its like first love ;)16:20
mathuinI have two systems running 12.04.4 LTS.  I would like to run 14.04 LTS Beta 1 on those machines.  Should I wipe those machines before installing the beta, or is there a way to upgrade using apt-get?16:53
ikoniacheck the topic16:54
ikoniaas I said16:54
ikoniaand again, you never upgrade with apt-get as I told you in #ubuntu16:54
mathuinIt's funny you say never upgrade with apt-get, when that's exactly how I've done it for the past two years within this LTS, and for years before.16:54
ikoniaif you're doing a wipe of the disk that is not an upgrade, but a clean install, so you'll need install media for 14.0416:54
ikoniawell, it's wrong16:54
PiciYou need to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade your release.16:55
Picinot apt-get.16:55
Picirather, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to another release.16:55
mathuinPici: can I use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to the beta, or do I need to wait for the release?16:55
mathuinI have a project with a shrinking deadline, so I can't wait for April 17.16:55
ikoniaPici: has update-manager been removed as a supported method ?16:55
Piciikonia: it still should work.  I just do everything in the terminal these days I forget about the gui options.16:56
Picimathuin: you should be able to, but you should check out the beta release notes in case there are any issues with that process.16:56
mathuinPici: when looking at the 12.04 server guide I see that I can use the option -d to upgrade to a development version.  Is it reasonable to expect that that switch will do what I want?  I'm checking the release notes now.16:57
ikoniayou can always "man do-release-upgrade"16:57
ikoniato verify the options are current16:57
mathuinThe option says "latest release".  If that means Beta 1 I should be fine.16:58
mathuin(it says that in the manual page, which I had open)16:58
ikoniawhat does -d say in the man page ?16:58
mathuin"Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible".16:59
ikoniathere we go then16:59
mathuinSo _if_ this is the latest devel release then I'm fine, and that's what I was asking.16:59
ikoniawhat other dev release is there ?16:59
Piciit will prompt you before doing anything anyway16:59
mathuinikonia: if I knew that, I wouldn't've asked.17:00
ikoniaok, well there isn't one17:00
mathuinPici: okay, thanks.  I saw it download stuff with 'trusty' in the name, so at least I'm on the right release.17:00
mathuinhttp://pastebin.osuosl.org/6351/17:05
mathuinThanks. :-)17:05
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sandGorgonIs gnome 3.12 going to come to 14.04?18:34
k1l_!info gnome18:58
ubottugnome (source: meta-gnome3): Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.8+4ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 53 kB18:58
k1l_sandGorgon: ^18:58
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johnjohn101I need help. i can't reset my ui size to 1 on the display screen20:09
johnjohn101there is NO way to scroll to that setting20:10
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johnjohn101it's going to need to be fixed20:11
KonstigtAm reading that GTK+ gains Google Cloud Print support. Does that help me, running Trusty Tahr?20:22
KonstigtI have found this 3rd party app: http://www.niftiestsoftware.com/cups-cloud-print/20:24
GZA-Geniushey all, I am getting a crash report every time I reboot and log into account the first time, it seems that system is not picking up my CPU correctly dmesg is returning ([   17.200780] AVX2 or AES-NI instructions are not detected.) Also when I go into VMware Workstation and go to setup a VM if I pick 4cpu's it gives me a warning that I am choosing more cores than available. (That msg was never returned on 13.10) I know this in not VM sup20:24
GZA-Geniusport I just bring that up because that data supports theory that something is up between sys>cpu. Any ideas/info would be greatly appreciated20:24
k1l_!info cinnamon20:38
ubottuPackage cinnamon does not exist in trusty20:38
fibz_anyone else experiencing this? when sending a remote shutdown command, the system requires some one to press the power button to complete shutdown20:58
llutzfibz_: have you tried using "poweroff" not shutdown command?21:00
fibz_nope21:01
fibz_yup that works, thanks llutz21:03
TJ-fibz_: Are you doing "shutdown -h ..." or "shutdown -P ..." ?21:47
akiva-mobilehey I am trying to build mir, and I am getting this error ./cross-compile-chroot.sh: line 83: popd: build-android-arm: invalid argument21:48
akiva-mobilenvm; just going to grab the mir-devel21:51
trismakiva-mobile: bug 128760021:51
ubottubug 1287600 in mir (Ubuntu) "./cross-compile-chroot.sh: line 83: popd: build-android-arm: invalid argument popd: usage: popd [-n] [+N | -N]" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128760021:51
trismalthough apparently fixed21:51
akiva-mobiletrism, Yah I thought I had the devel version, but apparently not21:51

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