[02:03] I'm not able to upgrade, I keep running into this error: http://imgur.com/cVjlEP2 [02:10] RPG-Master, how are you running it? [02:10] hello friends [02:10] has anybody noticed on 14.04 that their bluetooth flat out isn't detected? [02:10] pepee: I'm trying to upgrade from 13.10 [02:11] RPG-Master, yeah, but how, from the console? [02:12] oops [02:13] But yeah, I'm sorry, I ran update-manager-d from the Alt+F2 menu [02:14] did you run it before? [02:14] I've done it in the past, yeah [02:15] But this is actually like my 3rd time trying from Alt+F4 [02:15] Alt+F2 [02:15] I mean, this time, did you run it more than once? [02:15] I tried 2 times about 4 days ago [02:16] This is my first time today [02:16] can you run lsb_release from the console? [02:16] "No LSB modules are available." [02:17] run: cat /etc/lsb-release [02:18] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu [02:18] DISTRIB_RELEASE=13.10 [02:18] DISTRIB_CODENAME=saucy [02:18] DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 13.10" [02:19] well, perhaps you are using a non-official repo? [02:19] ...You mean non-PPA repos? [02:20] I thought the upgrade dialog mentioned temporarily disabling them? [02:20] yes, that's what the dialog says [02:20] I have no idea, though, I usually upgrade in a different way [02:21] I'll try manually disabling all my unofficial repos. [02:27] I think that did it. We'll see. [02:32] Nope, didn't work. Ran into the same error. [02:32] So, pepee, how do you upgrade? [02:34] either by modifying the repo lists directly (which I'm not sure is correct), or from the console, with do-release-upgrade [02:34] it tends to work. it's not supported [02:35] should I try do-release-upgrade? [02:35] (do-release-upgrade (which is fully support) and its GUI equivalent are programmed to deal with any quirks that are known to be possible during the upgrade, hence them being recommended) [02:35] RPG-Master: worth a try, yes [02:35] RPG-Master, make sure the system is in a consistent state [02:35] s/support/supported/ [02:35] otherwise, it may break some things :) [02:36] also, I think the best time to do an upgrade is at night, because usually there are not new packages [02:36] I have a weird/scary problem with my thinkpad x140e running 14.04: if I close the lid, it sleeps. when I open the lid, I see my previous screen for a fraction of a second, then the lock screen shows up [02:36] night, american time... [02:37] if I'm quick enough with the mouse, I can focus an existing app before the lock screen takes over [02:37] and the instead of typing in the password field, I can type in the terminal or browser [02:37] *then instead [02:38] to work around this, I have to lock my computer before sleeping it [02:39] do-release-upgrade just said "No new releases found". do I need to add an argument to it? [02:39] once the lock screen is displayed, there seems to be no risk (unless maybe OOM-killer kills the lock screen some time later, but I haven't had that happen in a decade) [02:39] nvm, added -d [02:39] RPG-Master: do-release-upgrade -d probably [02:39] :) [02:40] :P [02:40] may the force be with you and all that [02:40] actually, 14.04 is surprisingly stable [02:42] Yep, got the same error message, just this time in the terminal [02:43] aw [02:43] I read the backlog. I have no idea what the problem could be [02:43] I'm seeing a lot of stuff like "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en_US" [02:44] Err is a weird way of shortening Error? [02:44] yes [02:44] almost certainly [02:44] Making sure [02:44] translations tend to error out though because Reasons [02:44] least they did last time I checked [02:44] could try a different mirror though I guess [02:45] Yeah, all the "Err" in the terminal involved translation related stuff [02:46] So instead of "Main Server" I should just try "Server for United States"? [03:02] nope, not working for me [03:14] It would seem the "unsupported" method, as used by pepee, is working for me [03:17] \o/ [03:36] where can I report a bug I found in 14.04? I am in launchpad.net [03:37] hi, installed latest daily of Xubuntu 14.04 yesterday and I don't have a volume indicator in the panel? Known issue or my bad luck? [03:39] nlsthzn: I have it in 14.04 gnome [03:39] not tried xubuntu [03:39] cups is broken on my system here -- so I can't add a printer [04:13] I have had volume indicator in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Gnome also... only missing in Xubuntu [04:14] volume control works with keyboard shortcuts [06:51] thanks yall! [07:06] hey, should I report this as a bug [07:07] when switching accounts from akiva to guest, and then switching back from guest to akiva [07:07] when switching back, I have to enter my password to log back in [07:07] and then I have to enter my password again, to unlock the screen [07:07] that is really annoying. [07:08] Also, akiva is set to not have to unlock. === AussieDownUnder is now known as newnick === newnick is now known as CyborgCygnus === miraiE is now known as kosong [10:03] hello, I have a graffical bug in gufw (rules and listening frames are only big as one row each and also some drop down menu can't be seen correctly the first time I select them) [10:04] should I report it, or is it already known and taken care of. I haven't used much ubuntu daily builds so I don't realy know... [10:07] it looks kind of in here http://iloveubuntu.net/handy-firewall-app-gufw-1404-released-ubuntu-1404-support but when there's activity it won't expand [10:12] Sounds like you should report it in the launchpad, you'll get an answer eventually if it's already been reported. Since it's a daily build I'd recommend waiting & seeing what the next few days updates do. I'm currently on a xubuntu 14.04 daily & I've worked out even though I've been updating since the alpha, a current daily image (since xubuntu provides those) always run better than my updated from alpha version. [10:13] cyberalex4life, I'm not sure of your level of experience with os's but if you're after something more usable & less buggy then perhaps wait for the stable release, unless you're wanting to be a bug reporter. [10:17] trusty is verry stable [10:17] actionally this is one of the few bugs it has [10:18] I've seen worse in 13.04 an 13.10 [10:28] for me, reporting bugs is investing in the future stability and hardware compatibility of my system [10:29] Cmake is not letting me built unity8. I tried this on 13.10, and 14.04, and am getting the same error [10:31] CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:64 (message): [10:31] Could not determine plugin installation dir. [10:32] I have little experience with cmake; can anyone tell me if there is just a command I have to put in after ./build? [11:35] 'Morning all [12:07] BluesKaj, morning [12:08] 'Morning akiva-mobile [12:08] BluesKaj, Developing anything interesting? [12:09] not a dev, just an edgy user :) [12:09] BluesKaj, ever thought of developing? [12:09] and nice :) [12:10] tester as well, too lazy to learn dev work and what it requires :) [12:11] BluesKaj, ha ha; fair enough. Its an annoying hurdle to say the least. [12:11] afraid i couldn't commit to the time required aswell, since >i have other interests that keep me occupied [12:13] akiva-mobile, and I'm old and grumpy and lose patience :) [12:14] BluesKaj, but you have a heart of gold. [12:15] akiva-mobile, thanks, I sure hope so :) [12:42] i recently made fresh installation of ubuntu 14.04 on my HP Folio 9470m laptop. It has worked fine. Last night I turned the laptop off (as every night). This morning I turned it on and logged in. After login, I have an empty screen. I can open the terminal with ctrl-alt-t as usual, and open browser etc from command line. But the desktop system does not seem to work. How to fix this? [12:48] antagomir, try the virtual terminal/tty ctl+alt +F1-F6 , login , the update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, then reboot, see if that works for you. [12:51] Ok, I will try now. Tnx. [13:13] BluesKaj: did not help. Now I can't even get the terminal with ctrl+alt+t [13:16] ctrl+alt+F1 , antagomir , that will get you to a virtual terminal [13:17] ctl+alt+t, doesn't work amymore afaik [13:17] anymore [13:18] works here [13:18] jes it also worked for me before this [13:19] anyway, now i'm in virtual terminal. i tried with gdm and lightdm but neither works [13:23] did you update and upgrade? [13:25] yes [13:25] run startx [13:25] if it uses X [13:26] KDE here , so no sure what's going on with ubuntu and mir [13:28] does not help much [13:28] i get to the desktop screen but it is still blanl [13:28] blank [13:29] now the ctrl+alt+t brings terminal again, thgough [13:29] video card driver installed? [13:29] no idea [13:29] modul get build? [13:29] but this worked still yesterday [13:29] how to check? [13:32] oh hai [13:33] Is there anything problematic about installing the latest 14.04 beta now and upgrading it then to the final as soon as it arrives? [13:36] vanadis: it's beta [13:36] in other words, nobody really knows for sure if there's anything problematic [13:37] or can promise there probably will not be anything problematic [13:41] vanadis, depends on the hardware and available drivers, no one can predict without that info how your install will run [13:48] BluesKaj: shall i just do fresh reinstall since nothing works any more [13:48] or well, works but not on the desktop [14:11] antagomir, run this, we need to see what graphics chipset and driver you have, lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga [14:14] ok tnx. the output is here: http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd60 [14:17] BluesKaj: see http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd60 [14:17] antagomir, same driver that I use, but I'm not sure why it behaves differently on ubuntu vs kubuntu [14:18] hm [14:18] everything worked fine untilt this morning [14:18] antagomir, are you actually on 14.04? [14:18] i think so, what you mean? [14:19] kthx hyde / BluesKaj [14:19] BluesKaj i think so, what you mean? [14:22] antagomir, because the drivers behave differently [14:22] BluesKaj at least the login screen mentions 14.04 [14:23] ok [14:26] I tried to switch to UEFI Native mode in BIOS. Now after turning on I see the message: "No bootable image found. Notebook will shutdown.". I can't get to BIOS settings any more. [14:26] Any idea how I can switch back from UEFI model [14:28] f2 on , delete on some and f12 ands fn +f2 on others [14:30] to get the uefibios [14:31] tnx [15:39] hi is it possible to install Banshee 2.9.1? [15:45] mardan: is it the repos ? [15:47] no [15:48] in repos is 2.6 [15:48] 2.9.0+really2.6.2 [15:49] and can't find any ppa for trusty [15:49] ok, so there is your answer then [15:50] mardan, try the dailies [15:50] BluesKaj, nothing for trusty [15:52] nothing? how do you mean? [15:53] there is no daily build for 14.04 [15:53] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [15:54] BluesKaj, there will be ver really2.6.2 [15:57] * BluesKaj shrugs, mardan, if you're hung up on banshee, then my condolences [15:57] well rhytmbox can not play 3 songs [15:58] amarock is for kde [15:58] so that was best solution [15:58] (rhytmbox crash after 5 min) [15:59] that's one of the reasons I use VLC for media playback and the KDE desktop [16:00] hm I am using vlc for video .... since I love foobar maybe I will tray to change [16:01] too many probs with unity/gnome atm on 14.04 ...tried yesterday to see how it would run on my desktop pc ,....gave up after 3 hrs, just not my style either [16:03] and now you are using kubuntu? [16:04] i have been for 10yrs, tried to like gnome, but it just didn't workout [16:06] well almost 10 yrs :) [16:11] heheh me to .... but gnome/unity have something that make you love it after like one week .... kde have best app on other hand [16:12] btw that nautilus was change by "file" can I install any addons? [16:19] correction ,almost 9yrs , I did start out with ubuntu 4.10, my memory ain't so good :) [16:20] hehehehe its like first love ;) [16:53] I have two systems running 12.04.4 LTS. I would like to run 14.04 LTS Beta 1 on those machines. Should I wipe those machines before installing the beta, or is there a way to upgrade using apt-get? [16:54] check the topic [16:54] as I said [16:54] and again, you never upgrade with apt-get as I told you in #ubuntu [16:54] It's funny you say never upgrade with apt-get, when that's exactly how I've done it for the past two years within this LTS, and for years before. [16:54] if you're doing a wipe of the disk that is not an upgrade, but a clean install, so you'll need install media for 14.04 [16:54] well, it's wrong [16:55] You need to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade your release. [16:55] not apt-get. [16:55] rather, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to another release. [16:55] Pici: can I use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to the beta, or do I need to wait for the release? [16:55] I have a project with a shrinking deadline, so I can't wait for April 17. [16:55] Pici: has update-manager been removed as a supported method ? [16:56] ikonia: it still should work. I just do everything in the terminal these days I forget about the gui options. [16:56] mathuin: you should be able to, but you should check out the beta release notes in case there are any issues with that process. [16:57] Pici: when looking at the 12.04 server guide I see that I can use the option -d to upgrade to a development version. Is it reasonable to expect that that switch will do what I want? I'm checking the release notes now. [16:57] you can always "man do-release-upgrade" [16:57] to verify the options are current [16:58] The option says "latest release". If that means Beta 1 I should be fine. [16:58] (it says that in the manual page, which I had open) [16:58] what does -d say in the man page ? [16:59] "Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible". [16:59] there we go then [16:59] So _if_ this is the latest devel release then I'm fine, and that's what I was asking. [16:59] what other dev release is there ? [16:59] it will prompt you before doing anything anyway [17:00] ikonia: if I knew that, I wouldn't've asked. [17:00] ok, well there isn't one [17:00] Pici: okay, thanks. I saw it download stuff with 'trusty' in the name, so at least I'm on the right release. [17:05] http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6351/ [17:05] Thanks. :-) === drussell is now known as honey_nut_loops === honey_nut_loops is now known as drussell [18:34] Is gnome 3.12 going to come to 14.04? [18:58] !info gnome [18:58] gnome (source: meta-gnome3): Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.8+4ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 53 kB [18:58] sandGorgon: ^ === GZA-Genius is now known as GZA-ZNC [20:09] I need help. i can't reset my ui size to 1 on the display screen [20:10] there is NO way to scroll to that setting === GZA-ZNC is now known as GZA-Genius [20:11] it's going to need to be fixed [20:22] Am reading that GTK+ gains Google Cloud Print support. Does that help me, running Trusty Tahr? [20:24] I have found this 3rd party app: http://www.niftiestsoftware.com/cups-cloud-print/ [20:24] hey all, I am getting a crash report every time I reboot and log into account the first time, it seems that system is not picking up my CPU correctly dmesg is returning ([ 17.200780] AVX2 or AES-NI instructions are not detected.) Also when I go into VMware Workstation and go to setup a VM if I pick 4cpu's it gives me a warning that I am choosing more cores than available. (That msg was never returned on 13.10) I know this in not VM sup [20:24] port I just bring that up because that data supports theory that something is up between sys>cpu. Any ideas/info would be greatly appreciated [20:38] !info cinnamon [20:38] Package cinnamon does not exist in trusty [20:58] anyone else experiencing this? when sending a remote shutdown command, the system requires some one to press the power button to complete shutdown [21:00] fibz_: have you tried using "poweroff" not shutdown command? [21:01] nope [21:03] yup that works, thanks llutz [21:47] fibz_: Are you doing "shutdown -h ..." or "shutdown -P ..." ? [21:48] hey I am trying to build mir, and I am getting this error ./cross-compile-chroot.sh: line 83: popd: build-android-arm: invalid argument [21:51] nvm; just going to grab the mir-devel [21:51] akiva-mobile: bug 1287600 [21:51] bug 1287600 in mir (Ubuntu) "./cross-compile-chroot.sh: line 83: popd: build-android-arm: invalid argument popd: usage: popd [-n] [+N | -N]" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1287600 [21:51] although apparently fixed [21:51] trism, Yah I thought I had the devel version, but apparently not