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| GunnarHj | Hi robert_ancell! | 00:23 |
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| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: ping? | 00:33 |
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| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, hello | 01:55 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Hi! | 01:58 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Since you were afk, I posted a comment on bug 1189382. | 01:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1189382 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Misleading icons for “Keyboard” and “Text Input”" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189382 | 01:59 |
| robert_ancell | yep, saw that | 01:59 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Isn't it a little late? | 02:00 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, I didn't actually propose it for merging. Thought I would see how hard it would be to do | 02:00 |
| robert_ancell | The current state of having them split is a bit insane though | 02:00 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Basically I agree. And they are already interlinked. | 02:01 |
| robert_ancell | Yeah, it was nice to delete those silly links in the branch :) | 02:02 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: What more exactly would the merged capplet look like? What would the name of it be? | 02:02 |
| robert_ancell | Keyboard | 02:02 |
| robert_ancell | because they all relate to the keyboard | 02:03 |
| robert_ancell | I'll attach a screenshot to the bug | 02:03 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Do IM users look for IBus settings under Keyboard? ;-) | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | why wouldn't they? | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | All the other keyboard shortcuts and keyboard behaviours are there | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/883256/+attachment/4043804/+files/Merged%20keyboard%20capplet.png | 02:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 883256 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "unnecessary separation of keyboard and keyboard layout" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 02:06 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Maybe you are right. Guess I'm colored by the discussions on the way keyboard layout and input methods were integrated. There was much criticism. And now this last minute change... | 02:07 |
| robert_ancell | It's just a branch, not a change | 02:07 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Yeah, personally I think that screenshot looks nice. | 02:07 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Are you saying that you are not going to propose it for 14.04? | 02:08 |
| robert_ancell | The other panel that annoys me is a vague "brightness and lock" | 02:08 |
| robert_ancell | I'll see if anyone else thinks it's worth itr | 02:08 |
| robert_ancell | i.e. design / seb | 02:08 |
| robert_ancell | I suspect it would be too late / not high enough priority | 02:09 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: I'd vote fore too late for 14.04, but personally I'm all for it in 14.10. | 02:10 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: In any case this shows that the creation of u-c-c opens possibilities to make the UI more sensible. :) | 02:16 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, yes. It's kind of sad it will be obsolete so soon :( | 02:16 |
| robert_ancell | Should have done it years ago | 02:16 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Replaced by u-s-s? | 02:17 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 02:17 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:51 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 09:02 |
| Laney | hey | 09:06 |
| mlankhorst | morning! | 09:09 |
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| cking | I see that phone convergence code is getting creating some minor regressions on the desktop, for example: bug 1289532, can somebody look into this? | 09:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1289532 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "NetworkManager is polling every 4 seconds on the Desktop looking for /var/lib/ofono " [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289532 | 09:49 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ^ | 09:52 |
| seb128 | cking, thanks for spotting those/pointed them out | 09:52 |
| cking | no problem, we're making good progress in squashing these kinda issues | 09:53 |
| Sweetshark | Moin! | 11:20 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/4.2.3/ and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/precise/3.5.7/ubuntu6/ have the packages for sponsoring. Since we have the preliminary FFE for LibreOffice, do you need any additional redtape/bureaucracy from me? | 11:23 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, hey, looking | 11:49 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, trusty ones sponsored, looking to precise a bit later | 12:01 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: aye | 12:07 |
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| ritz | seb128, thank you, you are fast | 12:51 |
| seb128 | ritz, yw, well that one was already uploaded before, I just don't like regression on done todo items ;-) | 12:51 |
| ritz | hehe :) | 12:52 |
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| Guest60910 | how can install app from flash drive | 13:01 |
| Guest60910 | ? | 13:01 |
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| Guest60910 | how can install app from flash drive? | 13:04 |
| cyphermox | cking: hey, looking at the NM issue; what were you using to see these wakeups again? | 13:09 |
| Guest60910 | how can install app from flash drive? | 13:09 |
| cking | cyphermox, health-check | 13:09 |
| davmor2 | seb128: don't know if you can help me, the keyboard shortcut that is now shown on a first startup from a fresh install. Is it just unity or a different package? | 13:09 |
| cyphermox | because this is happening as a side-effect of g_file_monitor_directory or something; I'm never calling inotify directly :/ | 13:09 |
| cking | cyphermox, the tool just monitors the system calls, so goodness knows where the real culprit is | 13:11 |
| cking | i guess gdb is the next best hunch | 13:11 |
| cyphermox | cking: yeah, no problem; I'll figure out how to unbreak it | 13:11 |
| seb128 | davmor2, unity, what's the issue? | 13:11 |
| davmor2 | seb128: the clicking on the cross to close it does nothing | 13:12 |
| cyphermox | I think I could jsut skipping creating that monitor at all if the directory doesn't initially exists, since the function will get called again if ofono eventually appears on the bus | 13:12 |
| Guest60910 | how can install app from flash drive? | 13:14 |
| timmytimtimo | i need help? | 13:17 |
| seb128 | timmytimtimo, that channel is not an user support one, try #ubuntu | 13:18 |
| kgunn | seb128: ping | 13:48 |
| seb128 | kgunn, contentless ping warning | 13:48 |
| jdstrand | seb128: fyi in case you haven't seen it: bug #1288241. Not saying you should treat it special, just want to get it on your radar if it isn't | 13:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1288241 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "gnome-screensaver is running twice and prompts twice to unlock" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1288241 | 13:57 |
| jdstrand | I guess I could use rls-t-incoming | 13:58 |
| * jdstrand does so | 13:58 | |
| seb128 | jdstrand, hey, I saw it, I'm unsure to understand how that can happen though | 14:00 |
| jdstrand | me too, yet, it does | 14:00 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, note that there is also bug #1292451 | 14:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1292451 in unity (Ubuntu) "screensaver re-locks itself after unlocking if the configured screen-off timer goes off while screen is locked" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292451 | 14:01 |
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| seb128 | andyrock is supposed to work on those issues and said he would have a fix on monday, we are still waiting though :/ | 14:01 |
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| andyrock | i fixed the double lock | 14:02 |
| andyrock | that's a different issue | 14:02 |
| * jdstrand notes he has two screensavers running right now | 14:02 | |
| andyrock | i mean i proposed a branch | 14:03 |
| jdstrand | mdes laur postulated it could be related to bug 1271591 | 14:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1271591 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "upstart job race prevents gnome-keyring from being ssh agent" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271591 | 14:03 |
| jdstrand | ie, some sort of upstart race | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, it could be, because | 14:03 |
| seb128 | $ LC_ALL=C gnome-screensaver | 14:03 |
| seb128 | ** (gnome-screensaver:19175): WARNING **: screensaver already running in this session | 14:03 |
| seb128 | and it exit | 14:04 |
| jdstrand | interestingly, sometimes I have one screensaver, other times two, but I never seem to have 3 | 14:04 |
| seb128 | how are those started | 14:04 |
| seb128 | ? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | do you have a ppid? or are those dbus activated? or...? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | but yeah, those upstart race are annoying | 14:04 |
| jdstrand | seb128: I promise I am not lying: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7156861/ :) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | I wish somebody from foundation would help there | 14:05 |
| seb128 | xnox, stgraber: ^ | 14:05 |
| mdeslaur | FYI, I only have it running once, and am getting prompted twice to unlock | 14:06 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, right, that's bug #1292451 and the one andyrock is working on | 14:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1292451 in unity (Ubuntu) "screensaver re-locks itself after unlocking if the configured screen-off timer goes off while screen is locked" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292451 | 14:07 |
| seb128 | unity and g-s both triggering a lock | 14:07 |
| mdeslaur | ah, yes, that looks like it | 14:07 |
| seb128 | jdstrand issue is different | 14:07 |
| seb128 | he manages to get 2 g-s running | 14:08 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, can you get the /proc/$pid/environ for each (and same for the compiz process) | 14:08 |
| jdstrand | with both, the parent process is 'init --user' | 14:08 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, just to see if they have the same bus | 14:08 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:08 |
| seb128 | so both started by upstart? wth :/ | 14:08 |
| seb128 | when do we switch to systemd? ;-) | 14:09 |
| * seb128 hides | 14:09 | |
| jdstrand | seb128: UPSTART_SESSION=unix:abstract=/com/ubuntu/upstart-session/1000/2579 | 14:11 |
| jdstrand | seb128: same for both | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | seb128, yeah, will be fun to have to compile all your job descriptions instead of having them in plain text :P | 14:11 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, does "initctl --session list" has both pids? | 14:11 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: do they both have the same DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS? | 14:11 |
| * mdeslaur doesn't understand how two can be started when there is code in them to specifically prevent that | 14:12 | |
| seb128 | I don't know how that is possible, but it seems like an upstart bug to me | 14:12 |
| jdstrand | seb128: "initctl --session list" lists neither pid | 14:13 |
| mdeslaur | me neither | 14:14 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: re DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS> *no* | 14:14 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: NO??? | 14:14 |
| seb128 | so they are started by 'init --user' but not listed by initctl? | 14:14 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: how many dbus-daemons are running? | 14:15 |
| jdstrand | $ cat /proc/3033/environ | tr '\0' '\n'|grep DBUS_SESSION | 14:15 |
| jdstrand | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-ZUvIbevG83,guid=269ab2f67b14acf19089d23953308de7 | 14:15 |
| jdstrand | $ cat /proc/3657/environ | tr '\0' '\n'|grep DBUS_SESSION | 14:15 |
| jdstrand | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-y9007CBDK2,guid=4a97bdd2ecc021bd3585368753308de8 | 14:15 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, mdeslaur: not having the same DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS seems the only reasonable explanation at why the running instance detection doesn't work | 14:15 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: there's your problem, you're getting a screensaver for each dbus, that makes perfect sense | 14:15 |
| mdeslaur | screensaver is activated by dbus | 14:15 |
| seb128 | we are back to bug #1271591 imho | 14:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1271591 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "upstart job race prevents gnome-keyring from being ssh agent" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271591 | 14:16 |
| seb128 | upstart/env issues | 14:16 |
| jdstrand | $ ps auxww | grep [i]nit | 14:16 |
| jdstrand | root 1 0.0 0.0 34688 3820 ? Ss Mar24 0:03 /sbin/init | 14:16 |
| jdstrand | lightdm 1760 0.0 0.0 35592 1328 ? S Mar24 0:00 init --user --startup-event indicator-services-start | 14:16 |
| jdstrand | jamie 2579 0.0 0.0 36880 2912 ? Ss Mar24 0:07 init --user | 14:16 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: ps auxww | grep dbus-daemon | 14:17 |
| jdstrand | yeah, I see know one was for lightdm and the other for me | 14:17 |
| jdstrand | s/know/now/ | 14:17 |
| jdstrand | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7156914/ | 14:18 |
| jdstrand | so, system, accessibility, and two sessions started with different args | 14:18 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: that's normal | 14:19 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: so your /tmp/dbus-y9007CBDK2 dbus daemon is no longer there | 14:19 |
| seb128 | clients should exit when the bus goes away no? | 14:19 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: not necessarily | 14:20 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: how do you know that //bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session isn't /tmp/dbus-y9007CBDK2? | 14:20 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, check the /proc/pid/environ? | 14:20 |
| jdstrand | seb128: it doesn't have anything for dbus in its environment | 14:21 |
| jdstrand | but that does have GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL | 14:22 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: yeah, that's the one spawned by gnome-keyring | 14:22 |
| jdstrand | oh, both do | 14:22 |
| mdeslaur | or maybe somethig else...I dunno, there is _supposed_ to be two in your session + the accessibility one | 14:22 |
| jdstrand | so, 2766 has DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-ZUvIbevG83. 2898 does not | 14:23 |
| jdstrand | and by 'does not' I mean 2898 doesn't have DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in the env at all | 14:24 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: so you had a /tmp/dbus-y9007CBDK2 at some point, which went away, and you have a hanging screensaver | 14:24 |
| jdstrand | that seems plausible | 14:24 |
| jdstrand | but how to prevent that? | 14:24 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: do you have an extra file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d? | 14:25 |
| jdstrand | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7156950/ | 14:26 |
| mdeslaur | wow...a lot of stuff in there that are supposed to be dead | 14:27 |
| mdeslaur | consolekit? | 14:27 |
| jdstrand | is 75dbus_dbus-launch supposed to be there? | 14:28 |
| mdeslaur | fwiw, this is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7156960/ | 14:28 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you never see 2 screensavers? | 14:29 |
| mdeslaur | nope | 14:29 |
| Laney | Anything which adds something to STARTUP, like 75dbus and 90consolekit, doesn't get used if you are using upstart user sessions | 14:29 |
| mdeslaur | what's in 60seahorse*? | 14:29 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: right, possibly something in there isn't using STARTUP and that results in spawning a session dbus | 14:30 |
| jdstrand | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7156969/ | 14:30 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: hrm, try removing 90apparmor-notify and rebooting? | 14:33 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, mdeslaur: does that happen in a consistant way on every login? | 14:33 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: thinking that notify-osd is the culprit? | 14:33 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, mdeslaur: it might be useful to install bootchart and get a chart | 14:34 |
| jdstrand | seb128: no, not every time | 14:34 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: yeah, perhaps notify-osd is getting triggered before dbus is up, which spawns it's own | 14:34 |
| seb128 | those sometime give a clue about what process trigger what | 14:34 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, you don't have it already installed by any chance? ;-) | 14:34 |
| jdstrand | bootchart? | 14:35 |
| jdstrand | no | 14:36 |
| jdstrand | I forget how to enable it | 14:36 |
| jdstrand | do you know otoh? | 14:36 |
| seb128 | just install and reboot | 14:37 |
| seb128 | it's enabled by default and log to /var/log/bootchart | 14:37 |
| seb128 | well, install pybootchartgui | 14:37 |
| seb128 | that's needed to get the images I think | 14:37 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: apparmor-notify should go in /etc/xdg/autostart | 14:40 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: should I just move it there and see if it resolves my issues? | 14:42 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: try removing 90apparmor-notify and restarting first | 14:42 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: just to see if it's that | 14:42 |
| jdstrand | well, note, it doesn't happen on every boot | 14:43 |
| jdstrand | which is highly annoying | 14:43 |
| mdeslaur | it's probably only happening when you have denials, as that's when notify-osd would spawn before dbus | 14:43 |
| jdstrand | I can trigger a denial | 14:43 |
| jdstrand | give me a few minutes | 14:44 |
| mdeslaur | in any case, it shouldn't be there as it will definitely cause the problem if the conditions are right | 14:44 |
| mdeslaur | but there may be more than one problem | 14:45 |
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| seb128 | jdstrand, mdeslaur: the bootchart might still be useful to confirm that | 14:51 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you seem to be right. if I log out, make sure no screensavers are running, then login, only one is running. if I trigger a denial, apparmor-notify gives me a notification and another screensaver is started | 14:52 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: yeah, so it needs a desktop file and needs to be moved to /etc/xdg/autostart | 14:52 |
| jdstrand | if I kill the new screensaver, then trigger another denial, then another screensaver starts | 14:52 |
| seb128 | shrug | 14:52 |
| seb128 | so apparmor-notify is on the wrong environment/bus | 14:52 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: yes, because it's starting before the session bus, so notify-osd is spawning it's own bus | 14:53 |
| seb128 | k | 14:53 |
| seb128 | I knew it was the security team's fault! :p | 14:53 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks for helping debugging! | 14:53 |
| jdstrand | this used to work. I wonder if it changed when we moved to upstart user sessions | 14:55 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: yeah, for once it's our fault :) | 14:55 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: yes, it used to work because dbus was spawned there | 14:55 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: but isn't anymore | 14:55 |
| jdstrand | (it may never have been 'correct', but it didn't use to do this | 14:55 |
| jdstrand | ) | 14:55 |
| jdstrand | interesting | 14:56 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, mdeslaur: I guess you are going to deal with the bug/reassign? | 14:56 |
| jdstrand | I will once I confirm the fix | 14:57 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:57 |
| jdstrand | seb128, mdeslaur: thanks for your help with this. it was highly annoying :) | 14:58 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: I figure for every thousand times seb blames apparmor, there can be an actual bug once :) | 14:59 |
| jdstrand | heh | 14:59 |
| jdstrand | I would draw a line between apparmor and apparmor-notify :) | 14:59 |
| Trevinho | larsu: hey! | 15:00 |
| mdeslaur | although seb128 seems to have moved to blaming upstart for everything now, so maybe we'll be ok for a while :) | 15:00 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, lol | 15:00 |
| larsu | Trevinho: hi | 15:00 |
| mdeslaur | ;) | 15:00 |
| Trevinho | larsu: do you know what's causing some apps bg to be black (i..e dejadup) or transparent (gnome-tweak-tool)? | 15:00 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, I'm still annoyed on those gnome-keyring agent being unreliable, should I blame apparmor for it? ;-) | 15:01 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: nice try :) | 15:01 |
| larsu | Trevinho: yes, a combination of backgrounds not being set and overlay-scrollbars | 15:01 |
| larsu | Trevinho: patches welcome *cough* | 15:01 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: you haven't managed to get xnox to fix that yet? | 15:01 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, no :-( | 15:01 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I can't confirm for deja-dup, in what part of the UI? | 15:01 |
| larsu | ya, same here | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | larsu: ah.... I don't know what caused it but in previous version of themes it was working... | 15:02 |
| larsu | Trevinho: because we had a css rule "* { background-color: <something> }" | 15:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, see https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/dont-set-all-bgs/+merge/197234 for details | 15:02 |
| larsu | Trevinho: setting a bg for all widgets causes other problems. For example, it's very slow | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | seb128: http://people.ubuntu.com/~3v1n0/shots/Schermata%20da%202014-03-26%2016:02:31.png | 15:03 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, urg, I can't confirm that one ... do you have a locally hacked theme? | 15:03 |
| larsu | Trevinho: so I removed that rule and added backgrounds for widgets which were broken due to overlay-scrollbar doing crazy stuff | 15:03 |
| seb128 | oh, I can | 15:03 |
| seb128 | when showing the details | 15:03 |
| seb128 | "fun" | 15:04 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I have but I'm using the default one I think | 15:04 |
| Trevinho | I mean, I'm not using the local one now | 15:05 |
| Trevinho | at least, settings wise | 15:05 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yaeh, that's on detail | 15:05 |
| Trevinho | seb128: maybe because it loads overlay scrollbars in that case? | 15:05 |
| Trevinho | larsu: ^ | 15:05 |
| larsu | Trevinho: yep, it's very likely this is due to o-s | 15:06 |
| larsu | we've seen a lot of black bgs because of it | 15:06 |
| seb128 | larsu, Trevinho: confirmed, it doesn't happen without those | 15:07 |
| seb128 | bug #1295105 btw | 15:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1295105 in OEM Priority Project trusty "Wrong background color in "Back Up" window" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295105 | 15:08 |
| larsu | seb128: feel free to assign me to that bug while I'll go curl up into a corner and cry for a while | 15:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, :-( | 15:08 |
| Trevinho | seb128: btw dejadup is never able to finish a backup without errors here.... but that's another story :( | 15:08 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, talk to mterry! | 15:09 |
| * mterry hides | 15:09 | |
| larsu | Trevinho: something about not being able to back up some files? I think it backs up anyway except for the files it mentions | 15:09 |
| * larsu had that one today | 15:09 | |
| seb128 | mterry, don't hide, larsu is fixed your dejadup bugs! | 15:09 |
| * mterry hugs larsu | 15:09 | |
| Trevinho | larsu: no, it stops doing the backup giving me some python errror... But I never checked it in details | 15:09 |
| larsu | wait, what?! | 15:09 |
| seb128 | well, he said he would look at the theme issue | 15:10 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ | 15:10 |
| mterry | larsu, something for upstream/me? | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | it will be probably back in few time | 15:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/1295105 | 15:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1295105 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Wrong background color in "Back Up" window" [High,Confirmed] | 15:10 |
| larsu | mterry: nah, it's a theming issue | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | not sure if that's because it back ups on u1? | 15:10 |
| larsu | Trevinho: ah okay. I'm backing up to an external hd | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | mterry: ah, is there a way to blacklist a file, inside a folder? | 15:10 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, bug #1295357? | 15:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1295357 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Backup to Ubuntu one failing code 502 upload will exceed quota" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295357 | 15:11 |
| mterry | Trevinho, not one single file, no | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | mterry: ok, np... | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | seb128: mh, no... it's not that... I've lot of space there | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | seb128: once i get the log i'll be back with details | 15:11 |
| seb128 | k | 15:11 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: nice! I moved it over to xdg, logged out, back in, it autostarted, I triggered a denial and only one gnome-screensaver :) | 15:12 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 15:12 |
| jdstrand | seb128: ^ | 15:12 |
| * jdstrand triages and assigns bug to himself | 15:13 | |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: cool! | 15:13 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, mdeslaur: great, thanks | 15:13 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: so, I guess I've been seeing it a lot more lately since I've been profiling | 15:13 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, don't forget to maintscript clean the conffile on upgrade | 15:13 |
| jdstrand | yeah | 15:13 |
| mdeslaur | yeah | 15:13 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey, did you see bts like that before, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/f816c2a6a455ee7a2acd17284a395dee22bcc787 | 15:15 |
| desrt | yes | 15:19 |
| desrt | this is the typical 'getenv is not threadsafe, gettext calls getenv, we call gettext from threads' issue | 15:19 |
| larsu | morning desrt :) | 15:19 |
| desrt | hi :) | 15:19 |
| desrt | seb128: we generally try to solve this issue by making sure nobody ever calls setenv() | 15:20 |
| desrt | so likely the program that is crashing is calling setenv() somewhere -- it needs to stop doing that | 15:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, there is only on thread though here and the call is coming from dconf? | 15:20 |
| desrt | seb128: the call causing the crash is happening from the dconf worker thread... | 15:21 |
| desrt | #25 0xb6e11134 in dconf_context_thread (data=0x83555b8) at dconfcontext.c:11 | 15:21 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: I guess no screen off after the timeout in the screenlock is a known issue? | 15:21 |
| desrt | the main() thread is missing from the trace for some reason | 15:21 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yeah | 15:21 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: I need to fix it asap | 15:21 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: ok, I think you are already aware that the consequence it that you type your password, you see the screen, then it relocks… ;) | 15:21 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yeah :) | 15:22 |
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| Trevinho | didrocks: it's like: "are you really sure that you're the right guy"? :D | 15:22 |
| didrocks | ok, all good, leaving in your capable hands (just noticed that yesterday) | 15:22 |
| seb128 | desrt, you are right, thanks | 15:22 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: yeah, with just a short, quick preview! | 15:22 |
| desrt | seb128: there are some setenv calls here | 15:23 |
| desrt | in g-k-d | 15:23 |
| seb128 | right | 15:23 |
| seb128 | desrt, want to open a bug upstream for us maybe? | 15:23 |
| desrt | but seem to be mostly in tests, though | 15:23 |
| seb128 | desrt, daemon/control/gkd-control-server.c:g_setenv (*e, x, FALSE); | 15:24 |
| seb128 | daemon/ssh-agent/gkd-ssh-agent.c:g_setenv ("SSH_AUTH_SOCK", socket_path, TRUE); | 15:24 |
| seb128 | daemon/gpg-agent/gkd-gpg-agent.c:g_setenv ("GPG_AGENT_INFO", agent_info, TRUE); | 15:25 |
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| desrt | seb128: looks like you have an old version | 15:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, that's 3.10.1 | 15:25 |
| desrt | these calls are gone in the latest version | 15:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, hum? | 15:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-keyring/tree/daemon/control/gkd-control-server.c#n152 | 15:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, they seem to still be there in trunk to me? | 15:26 |
| desrt | ah.. so you're right. | 15:27 |
| desrt | i didn't catch them because of the subdir | 15:27 |
| trem | didrocks: hello | 15:38 |
| seb128 | trem, hey again | 15:40 |
| trem | seb128: \o/ | 15:40 |
| seb128 | trem, still not wanting to listen to my recommendation from the other day? ;-) | 15:40 |
| trem | seb128: ask on the chan ? | 15:40 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:40 |
| trem | seb128: sorry, I still prefer to avoid it, because it's not a "public" question | 15:41 |
| seb128 | trem, stop using the channel then, /query and ask it | 15:41 |
| trem | seb128: just want to say "hello" on the chan before a query | 15:42 |
| seb128 | k | 15:42 |
| seb128 | hey then ;-) | 15:42 |
| didrocks | hey trem | 15:46 |
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| Trevinho | anyone using evolution here? As it seems that all the times I try to save attachments it hangs :o | 16:14 |
| Trevinho | and.... also file-roller does the same when i try to extract from a zip :/ | 16:15 |
| Trevinho | well, not only zips... any archive | 16:16 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, gio issue? get a bt? | 16:18 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah it looks like that... I've to get it | 16:18 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I was just about to connect to the processes and n ow... no more hanging... :( | 16:35 |
| Trevinho | but it happened both yestedaay and today (after a reboot) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | :-( | 16:35 |
| seb128 | k, maybe next time you manage to get a bt | 16:36 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I hope no.. .I mean I don't want my apps to freeze :D | 16:36 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi :), did you upload libreoffice 4.2.3~rc2 already? | 16:55 |
| Laney | ricotz: it's in the queue, see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1 | 16:56 |
| ricotz | Laney, ah, thanks | 16:57 |
| ricotz | Laney, syncing libosinfo would be nice too | 16:58 |
| seb128 | ricotz, what Laney said, was there an issue with it? | 16:59 |
| Laney | ricotz: dunno what it is, please requestsync | 16:59 |
| ricotz | seb128, no issue, i just need to have the sources published to avoid a full-source upload for the backports | 16:59 |
| ricotz | Laney, it is used by e.g. gnome-boxes and debian contains a newer release with fixes | 17:00 |
| Laney | looking forward to the bug report then ;-) | 17:01 |
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| mpt | cyphermox, mterry: If Ubuntu connected to a Wi-Fi network at the login screen, and that’s the same network that you use in your session, would it still have to disconnect and reconnect when you logged in? | 17:57 |
| mterry | mpt, no, connections are managed by a system daemon | 17:57 |
| mpt | Oh, of course, otherwise Remote Login would fail immediately after you logged in | 17:58 |
| mpt | thanks mterry :) | 17:58 |
| mpt | Hm, I guess that means you can’t disconnect from the current Internet connection while you are logged in remotely | 18:01 |
| mpt | Or at least, shouldn’t | 18:01 |
| mterry | mpt, :) probs not -- maybe we were smart and disallowed permission to do so when in such a session? | 18:02 |
| mterry | but I bet not | 18:03 |
| mpt | I have no way of testing that, that I know of | 18:03 |
| mterry | Laney, thanks for updating that 2 year old patch for adding a position property :) | 18:10 |
| cyphermox | mterry: I don't think it needed any being smart, as a guest user you may not have permission to do so in the first place | 18:11 |
| cyphermox | as for remote sessions, if there is a local user with sufficient permissions then yes they can disconnect you | 18:11 |
| mterry | cyphermox, I think you need admin privileges to create new connections, but I *thought* guests could switch to connections that have been used before. Not sure | 18:12 |
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| Laney | mterry: I saw it was linked to a bug that's tagged to be fixed for trusty :P | 21:15 |
| Laney | thought it was worth a go | 21:15 |
| mterry | Laney, maybe in two more years it'll be fixed | 21:16 |
| Laney | well, we have some people in the team who could maybe look at it if necessary | 21:16 |
| stgraber | hmm, so Edubuntu beta 2 gets me a black wallpaper rather than our usual one, any idea what's going on? | 21:24 |
| stgraber | (under uniyt) | 21:24 |
| stgraber | *unity | 21:24 |
| stgraber | we didn't change our artwork package since december so it seems like something desktopy changed | 21:25 |
| stgraber | hmm, not your fault apparently :) | 21:27 |
| stgraber | the wallpaper is 0 byte large in that image... | 21:27 |
| Laney | Oops | 21:40 |
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