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zequenceThanks. Yes, it was nighty nighty time for me yesterday :)05:26
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dbarthhiya09:11
dbarthsil2100: and i have a problem with some packages stuck in a silo not flowing in the archive because of the recent freeze i guess09:11
dbarthnamely: unity-webapps, webbrowser-app, libunity-webapps09:12
sil2100Hi release team! Yes, it's09:17
sil2100I mean...09:17
sil2100Yes, it's something that is required for touch development, and we would be grateful if those could be pushed forward :)09:17
LaneyThey're being held becuse they are on other seeds than just touch, and there's a beta being prepared currently.09:20
seb128hey09:21
seb128what's the right place to start a discussion about "blocking things in unapproved vs blocking things in proposed"09:21
dbarthah ok09:21
seb128the unapproved queue is creating issues for CI train (basically it means no silo/ppa can be cleaned, given back)09:21
dbarthis there a way i can just free the silo for now, while the freeze is in effect?09:22
sil2100dbarth: not right now sadly... not without hacking around the whole process09:23
dbarthhow long are we talking for the freeze?09:23
dbarthdepending on the timeframe09:23
dbarthmaybe i should continue with the same silo but add more stuff09:24
LaneyBeta is on Thursday09:24
dbarthLaney: ok09:24
dbarthso unfreeze friday or so09:24
seb128shrug09:24
dbarththen i think i'll try to keep that silo open and work in there09:24
seb128that ridiculous09:24
dbarthsil2100: works?09:24
LaneyThere's no unfreeze, but stuff ought not to be held09:25
seb128Laney, why can't those uploads just go to proposed if they are blocke there?09:25
LaneyThey aren't blocked there09:26
seb128ok, it just happens that people only review/let beta fixes through?09:26
LaneyI think the idea is to have release team eyeballs on stuff before it enters the archive09:27
LaneyThis is what we did last cycle too, IIRC09:27
sil2100dbarth: we can do something else, let's move it to another channel09:29
dbarthsil2100: ah ok :)09:29
seb128Laney, right, that worked fine when we did have silos, now every unapproved upload coming from CI train locks a silo and we have only a limited number09:32
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jibelcjwatson, there are 2 critical bugs in ubiquity bug 1297312 and bug 129669709:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 1297312 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity-dm fails with: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129731209:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 1296697 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty Desktop installer crashed with "Encrypted Home" set" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129669709:57
jibelfix for 1297312 is obvious and someone proposed a patch09:58
jibelI am not sure about 1296697 because there is no swap after installation but there was none before the change to ecryptfs-utils either09:59
davmor2jibel: hey dude I've just run my update iso script and i386 and amd64 both had updates but mac version didn't is that correct?11:09
jibeldavmor2, it is incorrect. latest images are 20140325.1, and there are imags for amd64+mac in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/11:15
davmor2jibel: right I'll check the checksums maybe I hit it yesterday and only the mac image had finished updating.11:16
davmor2jibel: nevermind just me I must of updated it yesterday and the other 2 not get pulled in phew :)11:19
jibeldavmor2, you should really consider using dl-ubuntu-test-iso from ubunqu-qa-tools, it does all this already11:19
davmor2hi ho, hi ho, hi ho, hi ho, it's iso testing we go.....11:20
jibeldavmor2, can you test uefi+sb to make sure it's covered? I don't have hw to do this.11:21
davmor2jibel: I'm just gonna hit everything so it'll confirm everything works :)   but yeah my plan was to do all the amd64 tests against my uefi+sb laptop as well as a standard box11:22
davmor2jibel: oh I can do a side by side with windows too. now I'm assuming I can get macos back on this mac to so could potentially test side by side there too I guess but I'll save that till last :)11:27
davmor2jibel: Huston we have a problem.  On my non-uefi laptop and the mac I'm greeted by a black screen rather than the ubiquity session screen this didn't happen on the image before 25.111:46
davmor2jibel: that is i386 and amd64+mac just firing up amd64 see if it is the same11:47
davmor2jibel: and it is11:47
jibeldavmor2, possibly bug 129731211:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 1297312 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity-dm fails with: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129731211:51
jibeldavmor2, does it happen if you press shift on the boot screen and select "try ubuntu"11:52
jibel?11:52
davmor2jibel: I shall try11:52
davmor2jibel: okay so live desktop is good so it is most likely that issue.11:57
davmor2jibel: although it's happening on i386 too so not just /usr/lib/x86_64 I guess11:58
jibeldavmor2, on i386 the path would be .../i386-linux-gnu/.. but it's the same problem12:02
davmor2jibel: confirmed the lack of ubiquity across the board12:02
cjwatsonjibel: right, looking12:03
* davmor2 goes back to testing phone in the meantime.12:04
cjwatsoninfinity: we're going to need a respin for ubiquity anyway; do you think I could have my dee and geoclue uploads let through the queue at the same time?  they're fairly trivial multiarch fixes, not beta-critical or anything, but I have a really deep stack there in order to get to the point of being able to do "apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:armhf" in "click chroot" and it would help to be able to make progress12:04
jibeldavmor2, it would be nice if you could verify uefi+sb instead, so we do not discover it is broken after next respin. just skip ubiquity-dm and boot directly to a live session.12:09
davmor2jibel: and just do an install from the live session you mean?12:10
jibeldavmor2, yes12:11
davmor2jibel: no worries I'll set that up now12:11
davmor2ah nice bug12:12
davmor2jibel: on the new lock screen hit system indicator and then hit restart and watch it restart the computer even though your user is still logged in :)12:15
seb128davmor2, that has always been the case on e.g the greeter12:17
davmor2seb128: yes on the greeter when no one is logged in.  This is the lock screen though, it used to warn that a user was locked in12:17
seb128?12:18
davmor2logged in even12:18
seb128on the greeter even when people are logged in12:18
seb128use precise or saucy, do switch user, your session is still open and you are on the greeter, shutdown12:18
seb128the box shutdowns with your user session open12:18
davmor2seb128: oh okay12:19
davmor2seb128: just not used to it happening from the lock screen, you had to login to get to the option before I guess12:19
seb128right12:19
seb128or to go the greeter12:19
seb128by clicking on the button that was on the lockscreen12:20
seb128bug #1281058 btw12:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1281058 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "The system shutdowns when multiple accounts are open" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128105812:20
davmor2seb128: nice thanks12:20
seb128yw12:20
davmor2jibel: so the uefi menu works, live session seems to work, install about to be triggered so far so good :)12:22
zygahey, I'd like to ask for a few things to land before the beta is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox-ng/+bug/1297665 and the two merge requests to ubuntu source branchs (both tiny though), this should hopefully fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox-ng/+bug/129711812:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 1297665 in checkbox-ng (Ubuntu) "Sync checkbox-ng 0.2.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New]12:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 1297118 in checkbox-ng (Ubuntu) "checkbox crashed with TypeError in emit_signal(): Don't know which D-Bus type to use to encode type "NoneType"" [High,Confirmed]12:59
infinitycjwatson: If ubiquity has to happen anyway, yeah, go ahead with other safe-looking accepts.14:18
* infinity grumbles about being awake.14:18
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cjwatsoninfinity: Just waiting for a test now ...14:23
cjwatson(hopefully)14:23
zulcan an archive admin have a look at python-oslotest, its a new dependency of python-oslo.messaging which is needed by a newer cinder14:41
dbarthsil2100: just a quick update: we're adjusting branches in a stack (merging some conflicts in the process) for the oxide silo14:44
dbarthsil2100: should be ready soon now14:44
seb128Laney, zyga: ^14:52
Laneyty14:55
Laneylooking in a sec14:55
zygalooking14:56
zygaLaney: nice, I'll do a test run to check if those work now14:56
Laneyzyga: You guys should include a NEWS file or similar ;-)15:06
zygaLaney: we will, good idea15:07
zygaLaney: we have a changelog for plainbox that's pretty detailed15:09
zygaLaney: but not for the rest of the components yet15:09
Laney*nod*15:09
zygaLaney: http://plainbox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/changelog.html <- not old fashioned NEWS but we're working on making stuff more discoverable15:11
Laneyzyga: OK, it all looks alright to me - the only thing I can see is that there might not be anything preventing people installing the new providers with old checkbox-ng; I assume that wouldn't work15:11
zygaLaney: it would mostly work but one use case would break15:12
LaneyOK, if you think that's acceptable then it's fine by me15:13
LaneyReady to go after you let me know your testing works out15:13
zygaLaney: from what I understand, nobody will install the broken set anymore, as those packages will now be in 14.04 at the right version15:14
zygaLaney: right?15:14
zygaLaney: I'm just looking but I cannot see them in -proposed yet15:14
LaneyNew people won't be able to, but you could just update one or the other15:15
Laneyzyga: They need to be accepted from the queue15:15
LaneyI thought you said you were doing a test run so was going to wait for that15:15
zygaLaney: update one? I mean the final image *should* be correct, those are now packages so nobody could get those earlier15:16
cjwatsoninfinity: well, I uploaded dee and geoclue so I probably shouldn't accept them, technically :)15:16
zygaLaney: yeah give me a moment then15:16
* cjwatson uploads ubiquity15:16
zygaLaney: I'm not seeing checkbox-ng in -proposed yet either, is that still pending?15:20
LaneyYup15:20
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=115:20
zygaok15:20
zygaI'll just build all locally15:20
stgrabercjwatson: I take it we want this ubiquiti in ASAP? (sorry, still catching up with backlogs from various channels)15:26
stgraber*ubiquity15:26
cjwatsonstgraber: two critical bugs, so yeah15:27
stgraberok, accepting then15:27
cjwatsonstgraber: I asked infinity if we could have dee and geoclue in the same run, and he was OK with that15:27
infinitySorry, yeah, I'm multitasking very poorly right now.15:28
cjwatsonI'm kind of failing to multitask.  Maybe a chairnap would help ...15:28
stgraberok, geoclue is just a multiarch change apparently, accepted15:29
stgraberdee is a sync from a silo so I'll need to track it down...15:29
infinityhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/170578019/dee_1.2.7%2B13.10.20130924.1-0ubuntu2_1.2.7%2B14.04.20140324-0ubuntu1.diff.gz15:29
infinityLooks fine to me.15:29
stgraberyep15:30
infinityDoes all this new checkbox-related stuff need to be on images?15:30
cjwatsonThanks.  I'll check whether ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:armhf works in an hour or so then ...15:31
zygainfinity: not really (IMHO) but ask ara please15:31
infinityOh, also, indicator-china-weather was intended to land on kylin beta, accepting that.15:31
zygaara: ^^15:31
arainfinity, not really15:32
infinityKay, cool.15:33
infinityHrm, how did sssd not get auto-accepted?15:35
stgraberbecause it's seeded by edubuntu15:35
infinityedubuntu dvd.  I see that, yeah.15:35
infinityShame the queue doesn't.15:35
stgraberbut since edubuntu-server won't be shipping on media, I'm now dropping it from our seeds and updating edubuntu-meta real quick15:36
infinitystgraber: Good thing we're not doing a beta release tomorrow or anything.15:38
stgraberinfinity: well, since we'll be respinning anyway, I figured I may as well save us a few dozen MBs :)15:43
infinity:)15:44
infinitystgraber: Be quick, so I can kick off $world (cause, yay, ubiquity).15:44
infinityI think we need to come up with an OS that doesn't have an installer.15:44
infinityThat would be novel.15:44
stgraber:)15:45
cjwatsonthe front panel and a load of toggles are all you need15:45
stgraberinfinity: we could replace our installer by a long wiki page and call that Ubuntoo?15:46
zygaLaney: I think it's safe to sync15:49
Laneyzyga: okely dokely15:49
zygaLaney: we found a bug but it's not clear if that's our testing environment or something else15:49
zygaLaney: and it's not related to this at all15:49
zygaLaney: looks like an existing upstream bug15:49
infinitycjwatson: Have you been drinking Kool-Aid with a large blue 3-letter logo on the bottle?15:49
zygaLaney: and this upload will fix a log of known bugs so let's do it15:49
Laneyzyga: ok, good luck fixing then15:49
cjwatsoninfinity: No :-)15:52
infinitycjwatson: Was just having flashbacks to me, Anton, and pinky trying to decipher http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1010983 yesterday.15:53
cjwatson*shiver*15:53
infinityWhen the primary interface to your hardware appears to be a first-gen GameBoy, you're probably going to end up with more questions than you started with.15:58
infinityThat was our conclusion.15:58
smosercan someone nak my simplestreams upload ? its not been ack'd yet, and i found a bug to fix.16:05
smoserunless its preferred for me to upload a new version, thats possible too16:05
Laneysure can16:06
LaneyvoilĂ 16:07
smosergracias.16:22
stgraberinfinity: ^ (turned out not to contain what I thought but probably still worth getting in anyway)16:27
infinityScottK / Riddell: Whoever triggered that kubuntu rebuild missed the ubiquity update.16:59
Riddellinfinity: oh didn't know there was one, was looking at our own stuff17:00
Riddellinfinity: we want ubiquity 2.17.10?17:01
cjwatsonI think the encrypted-home bug should affect you?17:01
Riddellsounds likely17:01
Riddellinfinity: so you'll rebuild all desktopy images?17:04
infinityRiddell: That was my plan.17:04
RiddellI'll be holding my breath for that :)17:05
infinityHeh.17:05
infinityRiddell: Alright, resping of $world triggering now.17:08
infinityrespin, too...17:08
infinityRiddell: Rearranged to throw you at the front of the list.  Cheers.17:09
Riddellaww thanks :)17:11
infinityRiddell: ^ There you go.17:34
Riddellyay!17:34
boikohi guys, so I had some stuff in the CI train, and one of the packages (account-plugins) was marked there as UNAPPROVED because of the freeze18:03
boikoI just want to know what exactly should I do once we are past the freeze to get those changes landed18:04
zequenceinfinity: Are you 'bout to rebuild ours too?18:05
zequenceinfinity: I just found I had not fully fixed the bug in our installer. Fixed now. We need to get that uploaded and a rebuild again :P18:05
Laneyboiko: It'll get reviewed at some point, no need to worry18:05
Laneyboiko: Maybe not before the beta tomorrow, mind18:06
infinityzequence: Whee.  Yours is in my current build pipe.  Maybe if we land your thing in a hurry, it'll make it. :P18:06
infinityzequence: Point me at what you need reviewed/sponsored.18:06
boikoLaney: that's fine, thanks18:07
zequenceinfinity: lp:ubuntustudio-live18:07
zequencebug 129721918:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1297219 in ubuntustudio-live (Ubuntu) "package selection plugin crashes when deselecting a meta without recommends" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129721918:07
infinityHandy, I still have that checked out.18:07
infinityzequence: Done.  Let's see if it beats the clock.18:11
infinityzequence: If not, we can respin your respin. :P18:11
zequenceinfinity: unapproved?18:11
infinityzequence: queuebot was just catching up with reality.18:12
zequenceinfinity: Thanks :)18:12
infinityzequence: Looks like that made it into the release pocket before your ISO rebuild slot came up, so we win.19:14
infinityzequence: (You're right after ubuntu-server, which is in progress right now)19:14
zequenceinfinity: ooh!!19:15
jibeldavmor2, something's wrong with latest image. During a live session, I'm connected to the network through a wired connection and I can wget content on the outside, but ubiquity thinks there is no network. Do you see this behavior too? this is with 2014032620:10
davmor2jibel: well mac got no connection due to 3rd party driver needed I think so I just finished burning an amd 64 so let me restart my laptop and I'll let you know from there20:12
jibeldavmor2, hm, it's working now.20:19
stgraberedubuntu-artwork is incoming, fixing our currently missing wallpaper (used to be a symlink to a file from ubuntu-wallpapers which got removed between beta1 and beta2...)21:39
stgraberthere it is ^21:43
stgraberleast useful diff ever as it can't diff the actual extra file being added and doesn't list symlinks changing :)21:44
infinitystgraber: Checking.21:44
infinitystgraber: Want to review kio-enslave as pennance?21:44
infinityErr, whatever it is.21:45
infinityzerconf-ioslave.  That.21:45
stgraberso you are trading a 5s unapproved review for a new source package? why do I feel like I'm on the loosing end of that deal? :)21:45
infinitystgraber: Because you are. :)21:46
LaneyUnfortunately I already did it. :P21:46
infinityThat was quick.  I was still downloading.21:46
infinitySince the diff is useless.21:46
LaneyYeah, I have quite a good connection to the DC21:47
infinityI normally do.  My ISP hates me today.21:47
infinityMy usual 10MB/s from github has been 50kB/s today.21:47
infinityNot happy.21:47
LaneyEXTREMELY ANGRY21:48
stgraberinfinity: what's the general opinion about new sources coming with a length debian/changelog for things that probably only ever existed in a PPA? I tend to be of the opinion that this is confusing and should be reduced to a single entry for the initial upload (unless it ever existed in Ubuntu or Debian or was renamed)21:55
infinitystgraber: I have no issues with it.  "Initial packaging" or "First upload" are the most uninformative things ever.21:55
infinitystgraber: Some history on how the packaging got the way it is never hurts.21:56
stgraberwell, this time around it's 10 "New upstream bugfix release" which isn't a whole lot more useful :)21:56
infinityHeh.  Fair enough, but also not a bug.21:56

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