[05:26] <zequence> Thanks. Yes, it was nighty nighty time for me yesterday :)
[09:11] <dbarth> hiya
[09:11] <dbarth> sil2100: and i have a problem with some packages stuck in a silo not flowing in the archive because of the recent freeze i guess
[09:12] <dbarth> namely: unity-webapps, webbrowser-app, libunity-webapps
[09:17] <sil2100> Hi release team! Yes, it's
[09:17] <sil2100> I mean...
[09:17] <sil2100> Yes, it's something that is required for touch development, and we would be grateful if those could be pushed forward :)
[09:20] <Laney> They're being held becuse they are on other seeds than just touch, and there's a beta being prepared currently.
[09:21] <seb128> hey
[09:21] <seb128> what's the right place to start a discussion about "blocking things in unapproved vs blocking things in proposed"
[09:21] <dbarth> ah ok
[09:21] <seb128> the unapproved queue is creating issues for CI train (basically it means no silo/ppa can be cleaned, given back)
[09:22] <dbarth> is there a way i can just free the silo for now, while the freeze is in effect?
[09:23] <sil2100> dbarth: not right now sadly... not without hacking around the whole process
[09:23] <dbarth> how long are we talking for the freeze?
[09:23] <dbarth> depending on the timeframe
[09:24] <dbarth> maybe i should continue with the same silo but add more stuff
[09:24] <Laney> Beta is on Thursday
[09:24] <dbarth> Laney: ok
[09:24] <dbarth> so unfreeze friday or so
[09:24] <seb128> shrug
[09:24] <dbarth> then i think i'll try to keep that silo open and work in there
[09:24] <seb128> that ridiculous
[09:24] <dbarth> sil2100: works?
[09:25] <Laney> There's no unfreeze, but stuff ought not to be held
[09:25] <seb128> Laney, why can't those uploads just go to proposed if they are blocke there?
[09:26] <Laney> They aren't blocked there
[09:26] <seb128> ok, it just happens that people only review/let beta fixes through?
[09:27] <Laney> I think the idea is to have release team eyeballs on stuff before it enters the archive
[09:27] <Laney> This is what we did last cycle too, IIRC
[09:29] <sil2100> dbarth: we can do something else, let's move it to another channel
[09:29] <dbarth> sil2100: ah ok :)
[09:32] <seb128> Laney, right, that worked fine when we did have silos, now every unapproved upload coming from CI train locks a silo and we have only a limited number
[09:57] <jibel> cjwatson, there are 2 critical bugs in ubiquity bug 1297312 and bug 1296697
[09:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1297312 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity-dm fails with: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297312
[09:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1296697 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty Desktop installer crashed with "Encrypted Home" set" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296697
[09:58] <jibel> fix for 1297312 is obvious and someone proposed a patch
[09:59] <jibel> I am not sure about 1296697 because there is no swap after installation but there was none before the change to ecryptfs-utils either
[11:09] <davmor2> jibel: hey dude I've just run my update iso script and i386 and amd64 both had updates but mac version didn't is that correct?
[11:15] <jibel> davmor2, it is incorrect. latest images are 20140325.1, and there are imags for amd64+mac in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[11:16] <davmor2> jibel: right I'll check the checksums maybe I hit it yesterday and only the mac image had finished updating.
[11:19] <davmor2> jibel: nevermind just me I must of updated it yesterday and the other 2 not get pulled in phew :)
[11:19] <jibel> davmor2, you should really consider using dl-ubuntu-test-iso from ubunqu-qa-tools, it does all this already
[11:20] <davmor2> hi ho, hi ho, hi ho, hi ho, it's iso testing we go.....
[11:21] <jibel> davmor2, can you test uefi+sb to make sure it's covered? I don't have hw to do this.
[11:22] <davmor2> jibel: I'm just gonna hit everything so it'll confirm everything works :)   but yeah my plan was to do all the amd64 tests against my uefi+sb laptop as well as a standard box
[11:27] <davmor2> jibel: oh I can do a side by side with windows too. now I'm assuming I can get macos back on this mac to so could potentially test side by side there too I guess but I'll save that till last :)
[11:46] <davmor2> jibel: Huston we have a problem.  On my non-uefi laptop and the mac I'm greeted by a black screen rather than the ubiquity session screen this didn't happen on the image before 25.1
[11:47] <davmor2> jibel: that is i386 and amd64+mac just firing up amd64 see if it is the same
[11:47] <davmor2> jibel: and it is
[11:51] <jibel> davmor2, possibly bug 1297312
[11:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1297312 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity-dm fails with: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297312
[11:52] <jibel> davmor2, does it happen if you press shift on the boot screen and select "try ubuntu"
[11:52] <jibel> ?
[11:52] <davmor2> jibel: I shall try
[11:57] <davmor2> jibel: okay so live desktop is good so it is most likely that issue.
[11:58] <davmor2> jibel: although it's happening on i386 too so not just /usr/lib/x86_64 I guess
[12:02] <jibel> davmor2, on i386 the path would be .../i386-linux-gnu/.. but it's the same problem
[12:02] <davmor2> jibel: confirmed the lack of ubiquity across the board
[12:03] <cjwatson> jibel: right, looking
[12:04]  * davmor2 goes back to testing phone in the meantime.
[12:04] <cjwatson> infinity: we're going to need a respin for ubiquity anyway; do you think I could have my dee and geoclue uploads let through the queue at the same time?  they're fairly trivial multiarch fixes, not beta-critical or anything, but I have a really deep stack there in order to get to the point of being able to do "apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:armhf" in "click chroot" and it would help to be able to make progress
[12:09] <jibel> davmor2, it would be nice if you could verify uefi+sb instead, so we do not discover it is broken after next respin. just skip ubiquity-dm and boot directly to a live session.
[12:10] <davmor2> jibel: and just do an install from the live session you mean?
[12:11] <jibel> davmor2, yes
[12:11] <davmor2> jibel: no worries I'll set that up now
[12:12] <davmor2> ah nice bug
[12:15] <davmor2> jibel: on the new lock screen hit system indicator and then hit restart and watch it restart the computer even though your user is still logged in :)
[12:17] <seb128> davmor2, that has always been the case on e.g the greeter
[12:17] <davmor2> seb128: yes on the greeter when no one is logged in.  This is the lock screen though, it used to warn that a user was locked in
[12:18] <seb128> ?
[12:18] <davmor2> logged in even
[12:18] <seb128> on the greeter even when people are logged in
[12:18] <seb128> use precise or saucy, do switch user, your session is still open and you are on the greeter, shutdown
[12:18] <seb128> the box shutdowns with your user session open
[12:19] <davmor2> seb128: oh okay
[12:19] <davmor2> seb128: just not used to it happening from the lock screen, you had to login to get to the option before I guess
[12:19] <seb128> right
[12:19] <seb128> or to go the greeter
[12:20] <seb128> by clicking on the button that was on the lockscreen
[12:20] <seb128> bug #1281058 btw
[12:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1281058 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "The system shutdowns when multiple accounts are open" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281058
[12:20] <davmor2> seb128: nice thanks
[12:20] <seb128> yw
[12:22] <davmor2> jibel: so the uefi menu works, live session seems to work, install about to be triggered so far so good :)
[12:59] <zyga> hey, I'd like to ask for a few things to land before the beta is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox-ng/+bug/1297665 and the two merge requests to ubuntu source branchs (both tiny though), this should hopefully fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox-ng/+bug/1297118
[12:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1297665 in checkbox-ng (Ubuntu) "Sync checkbox-ng 0.2.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New]
[12:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1297118 in checkbox-ng (Ubuntu) "checkbox crashed with TypeError in emit_signal(): Don't know which D-Bus type to use to encode type "NoneType"" [High,Confirmed]
[14:18] <infinity> cjwatson: If ubiquity has to happen anyway, yeah, go ahead with other safe-looking accepts.
[14:18]  * infinity grumbles about being awake.
[14:23] <cjwatson> infinity: Just waiting for a test now ...
[14:23] <cjwatson> (hopefully)
[14:41] <zul> can an archive admin have a look at python-oslotest, its a new dependency of python-oslo.messaging which is needed by a newer cinder
[14:44] <dbarth> sil2100: just a quick update: we're adjusting branches in a stack (merging some conflicts in the process) for the oxide silo
[14:44] <dbarth> sil2100: should be ready soon now
[14:52] <seb128> Laney, zyga: ^
[14:55] <Laney> ty
[14:55] <Laney> looking in a sec
[14:56] <zyga> looking
[14:56] <zyga> Laney: nice, I'll do a test run to check if those work now
[15:06] <Laney> zyga: You guys should include a NEWS file or similar ;-)
[15:07] <zyga> Laney: we will, good idea
[15:09] <zyga> Laney: we have a changelog for plainbox that's pretty detailed
[15:09] <zyga> Laney: but not for the rest of the components yet
[15:09] <Laney> *nod*
[15:11] <zyga> Laney: http://plainbox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/changelog.html <- not old fashioned NEWS but we're working on making stuff more discoverable
[15:11] <Laney> zyga: OK, it all looks alright to me - the only thing I can see is that there might not be anything preventing people installing the new providers with old checkbox-ng; I assume that wouldn't work
[15:12] <zyga> Laney: it would mostly work but one use case would break
[15:13] <Laney> OK, if you think that's acceptable then it's fine by me
[15:13] <Laney> Ready to go after you let me know your testing works out
[15:14] <zyga> Laney: from what I understand, nobody will install the broken set anymore, as those packages will now be in 14.04 at the right version
[15:14] <zyga> Laney: right?
[15:14] <zyga> Laney: I'm just looking but I cannot see them in -proposed yet
[15:15] <Laney> New people won't be able to, but you could just update one or the other
[15:15] <Laney> zyga: They need to be accepted from the queue
[15:15] <Laney> I thought you said you were doing a test run so was going to wait for that
[15:16] <zyga> Laney: update one? I mean the final image *should* be correct, those are now packages so nobody could get those earlier
[15:16] <cjwatson> infinity: well, I uploaded dee and geoclue so I probably shouldn't accept them, technically :)
[15:16] <zyga> Laney: yeah give me a moment then
[15:16]  * cjwatson uploads ubiquity
[15:20] <zyga> Laney: I'm not seeing checkbox-ng in -proposed yet either, is that still pending?
[15:20] <Laney> Yup
[15:20] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1
[15:20] <zyga> ok
[15:20] <zyga> I'll just build all locally
[15:26] <stgraber> cjwatson: I take it we want this ubiquiti in ASAP? (sorry, still catching up with backlogs from various channels)
[15:26] <stgraber> *ubiquity
[15:27] <cjwatson> stgraber: two critical bugs, so yeah
[15:27] <stgraber> ok, accepting then
[15:27] <cjwatson> stgraber: I asked infinity if we could have dee and geoclue in the same run, and he was OK with that
[15:28] <infinity> Sorry, yeah, I'm multitasking very poorly right now.
[15:28] <cjwatson> I'm kind of failing to multitask.  Maybe a chairnap would help ...
[15:29] <stgraber> ok, geoclue is just a multiarch change apparently, accepted
[15:29] <stgraber> dee is a sync from a silo so I'll need to track it down...
[15:29] <infinity> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/170578019/dee_1.2.7%2B13.10.20130924.1-0ubuntu2_1.2.7%2B14.04.20140324-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[15:29] <infinity> Looks fine to me.
[15:30] <stgraber> yep
[15:30] <infinity> Does all this new checkbox-related stuff need to be on images?
[15:31] <cjwatson> Thanks.  I'll check whether ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:armhf works in an hour or so then ...
[15:31] <zyga> infinity: not really (IMHO) but ask ara please
[15:31] <infinity> Oh, also, indicator-china-weather was intended to land on kylin beta, accepting that.
[15:31] <zyga> ara: ^^
[15:32] <ara> infinity, not really
[15:33] <infinity> Kay, cool.
[15:35] <infinity> Hrm, how did sssd not get auto-accepted?
[15:35] <stgraber> because it's seeded by edubuntu
[15:35] <infinity> edubuntu dvd.  I see that, yeah.
[15:35] <infinity> Shame the queue doesn't.
[15:36] <stgraber> but since edubuntu-server won't be shipping on media, I'm now dropping it from our seeds and updating edubuntu-meta real quick
[15:38] <infinity> stgraber: Good thing we're not doing a beta release tomorrow or anything.
[15:43] <stgraber> infinity: well, since we'll be respinning anyway, I figured I may as well save us a few dozen MBs :)
[15:44] <infinity> :)
[15:44] <infinity> stgraber: Be quick, so I can kick off $world (cause, yay, ubiquity).
[15:44] <infinity> I think we need to come up with an OS that doesn't have an installer.
[15:44] <infinity> That would be novel.
[15:45] <stgraber> :)
[15:45] <cjwatson> the front panel and a load of toggles are all you need
[15:46] <stgraber> infinity: we could replace our installer by a long wiki page and call that Ubuntoo?
[15:49] <zyga> Laney: I think it's safe to sync
[15:49] <Laney> zyga: okely dokely
[15:49] <zyga> Laney: we found a bug but it's not clear if that's our testing environment or something else
[15:49] <zyga> Laney: and it's not related to this at all
[15:49] <zyga> Laney: looks like an existing upstream bug
[15:49] <infinity> cjwatson: Have you been drinking Kool-Aid with a large blue 3-letter logo on the bottle?
[15:49] <zyga> Laney: and this upload will fix a log of known bugs so let's do it
[15:49] <Laney> zyga: ok, good luck fixing then
[15:52] <cjwatson> infinity: No :-)
[15:53] <infinity> cjwatson: Was just having flashbacks to me, Anton, and pinky trying to decipher http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1010983 yesterday.
[15:53] <cjwatson> *shiver*
[15:58] <infinity> When the primary interface to your hardware appears to be a first-gen GameBoy, you're probably going to end up with more questions than you started with.
[15:58] <infinity> That was our conclusion.
[16:05] <smoser> can someone nak my simplestreams upload ? its not been ack'd yet, and i found a bug to fix.
[16:05] <smoser> unless its preferred for me to upload a new version, thats possible too
[16:06] <Laney> sure can
[16:07] <Laney> voilà
[16:22] <smoser> gracias.
[16:27] <stgraber> infinity: ^ (turned out not to contain what I thought but probably still worth getting in anyway)
[16:59] <infinity> ScottK / Riddell: Whoever triggered that kubuntu rebuild missed the ubiquity update.
[17:00] <Riddell> infinity: oh didn't know there was one, was looking at our own stuff
[17:01] <Riddell> infinity: we want ubiquity 2.17.10?
[17:01] <cjwatson> I think the encrypted-home bug should affect you?
[17:01] <Riddell> sounds likely
[17:04] <Riddell> infinity: so you'll rebuild all desktopy images?
[17:04] <infinity> Riddell: That was my plan.
[17:05] <Riddell> I'll be holding my breath for that :)
[17:05] <infinity> Heh.
[17:08] <infinity> Riddell: Alright, resping of $world triggering now.
[17:08] <infinity> respin, too...
[17:09] <infinity> Riddell: Rearranged to throw you at the front of the list.  Cheers.
[17:11] <Riddell> aww thanks :)
[17:34] <infinity> Riddell: ^ There you go.
[17:34] <Riddell> yay!
[18:03] <boiko> hi guys, so I had some stuff in the CI train, and one of the packages (account-plugins) was marked there as UNAPPROVED because of the freeze
[18:04] <boiko> I just want to know what exactly should I do once we are past the freeze to get those changes landed
[18:05] <zequence> infinity: Are you 'bout to rebuild ours too?
[18:05] <zequence> infinity: I just found I had not fully fixed the bug in our installer. Fixed now. We need to get that uploaded and a rebuild again :P
[18:05] <Laney> boiko: It'll get reviewed at some point, no need to worry
[18:06] <Laney> boiko: Maybe not before the beta tomorrow, mind
[18:06] <infinity> zequence: Whee.  Yours is in my current build pipe.  Maybe if we land your thing in a hurry, it'll make it. :P
[18:06] <infinity> zequence: Point me at what you need reviewed/sponsored.
[18:07] <boiko> Laney: that's fine, thanks
[18:07] <zequence> infinity: lp:ubuntustudio-live
[18:07] <zequence> bug 1297219
[18:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1297219 in ubuntustudio-live (Ubuntu) "package selection plugin crashes when deselecting a meta without recommends" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297219
[18:07] <infinity> Handy, I still have that checked out.
[18:11] <infinity> zequence: Done.  Let's see if it beats the clock.
[18:11] <infinity> zequence: If not, we can respin your respin. :P
[18:11] <zequence> infinity: unapproved?
[18:12] <infinity> zequence: queuebot was just catching up with reality.
[18:12] <zequence> infinity: Thanks :)
[19:14] <infinity> zequence: Looks like that made it into the release pocket before your ISO rebuild slot came up, so we win.
[19:14] <infinity> zequence: (You're right after ubuntu-server, which is in progress right now)
[19:15] <zequence> infinity: ooh!!
[20:10] <jibel> davmor2, something's wrong with latest image. During a live session, I'm connected to the network through a wired connection and I can wget content on the outside, but ubiquity thinks there is no network. Do you see this behavior too? this is with 20140326
[20:12] <davmor2> jibel: well mac got no connection due to 3rd party driver needed I think so I just finished burning an amd 64 so let me restart my laptop and I'll let you know from there
[20:19] <jibel> davmor2, hm, it's working now.
[21:39] <stgraber> edubuntu-artwork is incoming, fixing our currently missing wallpaper (used to be a symlink to a file from ubuntu-wallpapers which got removed between beta1 and beta2...)
[21:43] <stgraber> there it is ^
[21:44] <stgraber> least useful diff ever as it can't diff the actual extra file being added and doesn't list symlinks changing :)
[21:44] <infinity> stgraber: Checking.
[21:44] <infinity> stgraber: Want to review kio-enslave as pennance?
[21:45] <infinity> Err, whatever it is.
[21:45] <infinity> zerconf-ioslave.  That.
[21:45] <stgraber> so you are trading a 5s unapproved review for a new source package? why do I feel like I'm on the loosing end of that deal? :)
[21:46] <infinity> stgraber: Because you are. :)
[21:46] <Laney> Unfortunately I already did it. :P
[21:46] <infinity> That was quick.  I was still downloading.
[21:46] <infinity> Since the diff is useless.
[21:47] <Laney> Yeah, I have quite a good connection to the DC
[21:47] <infinity> I normally do.  My ISP hates me today.
[21:47] <infinity> My usual 10MB/s from github has been 50kB/s today.
[21:47] <infinity> Not happy.
[21:48] <Laney> EXTREMELY ANGRY
[21:55] <stgraber> infinity: what's the general opinion about new sources coming with a length debian/changelog for things that probably only ever existed in a PPA? I tend to be of the opinion that this is confusing and should be reduced to a single entry for the initial upload (unless it ever existed in Ubuntu or Debian or was renamed)
[21:55] <infinity> stgraber: I have no issues with it.  "Initial packaging" or "First upload" are the most uninformative things ever.
[21:56] <infinity> stgraber: Some history on how the packaging got the way it is never hurts.
[21:56] <stgraber> well, this time around it's 10 "New upstream bugfix release" which isn't a whole lot more useful :)
[21:56] <infinity> Heh.  Fair enough, but also not a bug.