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rwwnhaines: AtomicSpark (IRC nick, active now) wants details about that installfest thing and is thinking of (read: I told him to) volunteering. You should PM him :D04:15
rwwoh, he joined right as I said that04:16
nhainesyay04:27
nhainesAtomicSpark: so basically OCLUG is having an installfest on May 24th.  And we need installers. :)04:27
nhainesFor the installfest, we're only promoting Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  Anyone who comes in and asks for something else will get it, but otherwise they get Ubuntu.04:28
AtomicSparknhaines: I am on the wiki/website currently. Where is this located?04:29
nhainesAtomicSpark: nowhere, although I do need to get it up on the wiki.04:32
nhainesAtomicSpark: this is going to be updated soon: http://www.oclug.org/installfest.html04:32
darthrobotTitle: [OCLUG Installfest]04:32
AtomicSparknhaines: What happens if, I don't have a portable pc anymore and just an android tablet? :p04:33
nhainesAtomicSpark: then you have to come and help.  :P04:33
toddcnhaines: use drive droid to install LINUX from a tablet04:43
toddcERR AtomicSpark  sorry04:44
arrithpleia2: ping. sorry i haven't followed super closely about bkerensa goings-on; is there an installfest? or there might be one? (for LTS 14.04 release party celebration nacho slam extravaganza)04:44
arrithpresented by pepsi(r)04:44
philipballewohh action in the channel!04:46
arrithapproaching cage-match-level actionnn04:48
arrithphilipballew: are you going to the 14.04 sf parttyy?!04:48
rwwarrith: last I heard it was in SF but not at Mozilla because we got a sponsor elsewhere before we heard back from Moz, but not 100%04:49
rwws/$/on whether that's correct04:49
nhainesAtomicSpark: anyway, installfests are pretty simple, but we definitely need a few more people.  If you've never done one before, I can show you the ropes.04:50
arrith"confirmed our release party at AdRoll "  was said earlier04:50
nhainesAnd we have an OCLUG meeting in April, so you can come in and see the location if you'd like.04:50
arrithnot sure if it's too late to move from there to mozilla, or vice versa04:51
nhainesI'm planning to give a short presentation next month.04:51
arrithwonder if bkerensa works at moz04:51
philipballewarrith, Sure, if I had the money for a plane ticket.04:51
arrithphilipballew: you're not in us-ca?04:52
philipballewarrith, Yes I am.04:52
nhainesarrith: California is the size of a small country.04:52
philipballewnhaines, +104:52
arrithwell the installfest isn't for a few days. :P04:52
arrithalso $1 bus04:52
philipballewarrith, California is not just the bay, despite what they all claim there.04:52
philipballewarrith, No.04:52
arrithNo.04:52
philipballewThere is no one dollar bus to sf from there I live.04:53
arrithoh04:53
rwwWe don't claim it's all just the bay, that would break our complaining about y'all stealing our water.04:53
philipballewYou get all your power from dams towards Nevada to.04:54
philipballewarrith, Where do you live?04:54
arrithphilipballew: east bay, walnut creek area04:54
philipballewarrith, Oh cool. I was just in Fairfield last week.04:55
arrithah nice. i'm actually super geographically challenged to the point that i have to google map all these cities on job postings to see if i'm actually okay with their commute04:55
arrithphilipballew: what's tying you to not-the-bay?04:55
philipballewarrith, My friends, and school, and life.04:56
arrithphilipballew: ah, so not much then :P04:56
arrithdang well04:56
philipballewarrith, I actually really like where I live.04:56
arrithhope you have an LTS party there. for the holiday spirit04:56
arriththat's good04:56
* rww ponders recruiting for Ingress04:57
philipballewarrith, Planning on it actually. Probably more low key then yours up there, but were a more low key people down here.04:57
philipballewarrith, where you you from?04:57
arrithborn n raised east bay. sometimes worry that not going too far from where you were born is a bad sign, but i love me some SV/SF04:58
philipballewNice. I was born and raised in Auburn.04:58
arrithah wow, definitely norcal04:59
arrithrww: if you mean the mobile game, i take it that's not really a paid position :P04:59
philipballewAbove the fog, below the snow.04:59
philipballewarrith, Often I have to just tell people I am from Sac though.05:00
arrithyeah i stick to east bay, not many people know the smaller cities/towns05:00
philipballewarrith, for sure.05:01
philipballewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAZ8jXYL-w05:01
darthrobotTitle: [Middle Of The Road - Sacramento [HQ stereo] - YouTube]05:01
rwwarrith: true, but it's fun!05:02
rwwespecially if you're Resistance :>05:02
arrithhaha05:02
philipballewAuburn is fun if you like weed, or dirt bikes.05:02
philipballewWere the Reddest county in the state also.05:03
rwwanyways, back to LoCo stuff...05:04
arrithhaha wow05:04
arrithuhm05:04
rwwAtomicSpark: go to installfest thing!05:05
arrithinstallfests could use a pxe server potentially. not sure if that's been done05:05
rwwarrith: go to release party thing!05:05
rwwyay, I am good at my leading thing05:05
arrithhail the leader05:05
philipballewarrith, If you come to my release party, I'll give you a dollar.05:05
philipballewmaybe two!05:05
* AtomicSpark strokes unix beard05:05
rwwphilipballew: you're having a release party?05:05
philipballewrww, Yes.05:05
rwwphilipballew: where?05:05
arrithphilipballew: commuting for not-lots-of-money is tough for me05:05
philipballeweither starbucks or INO rww05:06
philipballewprobably ino.05:06
rwwphilipballew: I meant city, but okays :P05:06
philipballewrww, SD05:06
arrithi guess usb sticks are easier than router plus lots of ethernet cables05:06
AtomicSparkarrith: Yes.05:06
arrithand more people need to use stuff like 'plop' (boot cd thing that lets you then boot to usb on computers that don't boot to usb in the bios. but i guess it's closed src :( )05:06
AtomicSparkAlso configuring a thing.05:06
philipballewI got some buddies from tj coming up to help out rww so it should be good.05:07
arrithAtomicSpark: yeah i guess it doesn't take that much longer to write an iso to a usb stick than pxe stuff05:07
AtomicSparkarrith: tbh, I'd just use a CD, works for everything.05:07
arrithAtomicSpark: ah yeah. i actually wonder what people use the most these days05:07
arrithwould be awesome if canonical shipped out pressed stuff05:07
rwwphilipballew: can you throw details at the mailing list this week so people can plan for it?05:07
arrithscore me some five-finger-discounted^Wfree swag05:07
AtomicSparkarrith: I still use CDs.05:08
AtomicSparkThough, didn't Ubuntu go DVD only?05:08
philipballewrww, I can set up an event, but I am gonna wait till two weeks from release to start tlking about it. People will forget.05:08
rwwarrith: they do ship pressed stuff, we had some for Southern California Linux Expo :)05:09
philipballewmaybe even a week.05:09
arrithrww: LTS only i thought?05:09
philipballewI only install Ubuntu via luetooth these days.05:09
rwwphilipballew: mention it now /and/ we'll be sending out an email with details for all three events week before/of05:09
philipballewbluetooth05:09
nhainesAtomicSpark: they're DVDs, which, by the way, we will have shipped out by Canonical.05:09
nhainesWhich is a thing that they do.05:09
arrithAtomicSpark: oh yeah, i'm doing DVD only i guess. hm, actually i don't know how many computers that show up to installfests have CD drives or not05:09
rwwarrith: correct05:09
rwwphilipballew: that way everyone's on the same page without reading through IRC, which most don't :)05:10
philipballewrww, I can make an event on the loco portal thursday night.05:10
arrithrww: think they'll have 14.04 pressed discs for the installfest?05:10
philipballewMaybe Wednesday night, but I have to run to Mexico for the night so we will see how long till  get back.05:10
AtomicSparkRemind me, does the Ubuntu installer have an option to use up-to-date packages during install? Would make pressed dvds have a longer shelf life.05:10
rwwAtomicSpark: yes05:10
AtomicSparkI get paraoid about those minor releases.05:10
philipballewAtomicSpark, iirc, you can install updates when installing from cd05:10
rwwarrith: ship time for pressed CDs is two weeks after release ( http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2014/03/13/14-04-dvdscds-pre-orders-now-open-for-verified-loco-teams/ )05:11
darthrobotTitle: [Loco Council | 14.04 DVDs/CDs: Pre-Orders now open for verified LoCo Teams!]05:11
* arrith falls to knees and shouts to the sky05:11
joseor what it takes to produce+ship, 2 weeks is just an estimate :)05:11
rwwyep05:11
rww"not in time for installfest" was the main takeaway there05:11
arrithwow 150 and 25, that's not bad05:11
philipballewFedora does flash drives05:12
joseoh :(05:12
rwwnice05:12
rwwwish we could, but money...05:12
josewhen's the installfest?05:12
joseand customs ;)05:12
rwwindeedy05:13
arrithhm05:13
arrithprobably a way to get bulk inexpensive usb stuff. they have those paper ones even05:13
rwwjose: don't think the LUG that's doing it made the date public yet, they're still sorting things out05:13
philipballewrww, Do I need to tell you or lyz I need cd's or is it assumed?05:13
philipballewwhat lug are we talking about?05:14
josephilipballew: a guy in SD asked me for DVDs via the loco-council ML and he said he was going to get to you05:14
rwwphilipballew: dunno, ask Lyz, she's been sorting out CD stuff I think05:14
rwwphilipballew: OCLUG. Might want to read meeting log when you get a chance :)05:14
nhainesRetail DVDs are cents a unit.  Bulk USB keys are dollars per unit.05:14
philipballewjose, someone emailed me looking for ubuntu events in sd.05:14
josehmm05:14
philipballewI am emailing him back this week.05:14
AtomicSparkUnless you're in Australia.05:14
nhainesjose: we pushed the date back a month at your suggestion.  :P05:15
josenhaines: you better announce the date in the channel, then?05:15
jose:P05:15
philipballewAtomicSpark, Not sure we can trust Australasia, their toilets flush the wrong way.05:15
josephilipballew: no, YOUR toilets flush the wrong way05:15
rwwi don't even know what way my toilet flushes :(05:15
nhainesjose: I did, during the last meeting.  But it's going on the wiki soon.  The LUG hasn't announced the date yet.  :P05:15
arriththat can only be settled with thermonuclear war05:16
philipballewI have a friend who went to Kenya and they flush down with no swirl when you are right on the equator.05:16
philipballewarrith, si.05:16
AtomicSparkphilipballew: Thats because of design flaw, not gravity.05:16
AtomicSparkrww: clockwise.05:16
philipballewAtomicSpark, clocks are overrated. I prefer the sun.05:16
josehttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Murphy%27s_law_application_for_antigravitatory_cats05:17
darthrobotTitle: [Murphy's law application for antigravitatory cats - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia]05:17
philipballewAtomicSpark, Wanna go to the down under with me?05:18
philipballewLets go right now!05:18
arrithaustralian food is probably pretty good05:18
philipballewI actually wanna go to Perth. I let this dude I met on the internet sleep on my loor for a week who lives there.05:19
arriththey should have more australian restaurants. there are brazillian places around the bay area but not australian, that i've seen05:19
arrithphilipballew: oh nice, quid pro quo05:19
philipballewI met a guy who said he would let me crash on his cargo ship for free if I work a little bit, and work a little bit for food.05:19
philipballewand he said after a month I would end up in Australasia.05:20
nhainesThat sounds like the way cargo ships work.05:20
philipballewnhaines, Living within walking distance from a shipping harbor/port has its advantages.05:20
philipballewarrith, Does the city have austrillian food?05:22
rwwwhat is australian food05:22
arrithphilipballew: i'm not sure. haven't looked. taht sounds good though05:22
rwwkangaroo?05:22
nhainesrww: crisps and boiled meats.05:22
* philipballew just had a California burrito.05:23
philipballew^ jose05:23
josephilipballew: I hate hate hate you05:24
joseI've been wanting a burrito since I left the US :(05:24
philipballewjose, so I should avoid tweeting about all the tacos I eat tomorrow in Tijuana?05:25
nhainesjose: you can always make one. :)05:25
philipballewjose, o, y mucho cervesa.05:25
josephilipballew: tacos are fine, burritos aren't05:25
philipballewburritos are bomb05:25
josenhaines: still don't know how to make those awesome ones I had in SD05:25
arrithrww: mayybe05:25
josephilipballew: beer, well, I'm <18 fyi05:25
arrithyou can import stuff05:25
philipballewjose, TIL Peru has a drinking age05:26
arriththis like one famous halal cart thing in NY i went to once is so good i keep thinking of paying some courier to pack one in ice and ship it to me. it'd be like $50 though and i can't justify that price05:26
arrithperu the land of the lawless has no laws!05:26
nhainesjose: tortilla, refried beans, maybe some rice, shredded cheese, guacamole.... meat-based protein as desired....  It's probably a pretty simple formula.  :)05:26
arrithchipotles are opening up everywhere now. probably will be one nearby soon05:27
arrithorder from their site and send an intern to get it05:27
philipballewnhaines, Carne asada, queso, salsa, french fries.05:27
nhainesI would totally get the Döner Kebab place in Germany to throw one in a styrofoam container with dry ice and fly it over here.05:27
arrithdon't let the intern get anything for themselves. they have to learn discipline05:27
arrithnhaines: $50!05:27
josearrith: we do have a law that allows us to have up to 20 llamas in our backyard05:28
philipballewnhaines, I was in Germany last month and had a really good one of those.05:28
nhainesarrith: deal if I can buy it with bitcoin!05:28
philipballewthey were the shit05:28
arrithnhaines: not when btc goes x50 in value05:28
philipballewIm gonna visit a bitcoin atm this weekend in my area.05:28
nhainesarrith: I'm only buying it now though.05:28
arrithRecent incidents have brought the currency under new regulatory scrutiny, such as the failure of Mt. Gox, a Tokyo-based exchange that filed for bankruptcy after losing an estimated $650 million worth of customer bitcoins.05:29
arrithhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/25/us-bitcoin-irs-idUSBREA2O1LR2014032505:29
darthrobotTitle: [Bitcoins are property, not currency, IRS says regarding taxes| Reuters]05:29
philipballewcan I print out my bitcoins?05:30
nhainesphilipballew: yes.05:30
arrithverifying that they're legit is another thing though05:30
arrithlocalbitcoins has a whole deal using text messages to confirm transfer of btc05:31
arrithnot sure if it actually escrows05:31
nhainesarrith: it can escrow, yes.05:31
philipballewnhaines, interessant05:31
jose#!/usr/bin/python; print("out my bitcoins")05:31
arrith#!/usr/bin/env python05:32
philipballew"Siri print me some money"05:32
nhainesI'm really happy that I agreed to update the OCLUG installfest page with the installfest date but it doesn't actually have one.05:36
nhainesIt's like free work.05:36
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pleia2arrith: we won't be doing an installfest at the party, the party will just be a gathering to learn about the new release and eat pizza for a couple hours, an installfest requires a lot more time and volunteers16:43
pleia2I won't do an installfest for less than 5 hours these days, there are always installation issues and we get stuck staying forever, not something for a thursday night :)16:44
pleia2as for DVD shipping, we'll do the same as we've done in the past, when they arrive I'll email the list and ask which regions need them, ie: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-October/002054.html16:45
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Fwd: DVDs For LoCo Teams]16:45
bkerensaarrith: I do not17:10
bkerensapleia2: so let me know if you have any issues William will be able to help get you guys setup17:12
bkerensawe have beverages and some snacks on site17:13
bkerensadepending on when it is we could probably order pizzas too17:13
pleia2yeah, I'll let you know if adroll doesn't work out :)17:13
bkerensafor the installfest17:14
pleia2oh good17:14
pleia2I need to convince someone to run it, I'm way too overbooked17:14
bkerensaI know that feeling17:14
pleia2I can attend, but coordinating another event.. :\17:14
bkerensahow do you reverse the overbooked feeling?17:14
bkerensa:D17:14
pleia2learn how to say "no" :)17:14
pleia2let me know how that goes17:14
pleia2hehe17:14
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