[04:15] <rww> nhaines: AtomicSpark (IRC nick, active now) wants details about that installfest thing and is thinking of (read: I told him to) volunteering. You should PM him :D
[04:16] <rww> oh, he joined right as I said that
[04:27] <nhaines> yay
[04:27] <nhaines> AtomicSpark: so basically OCLUG is having an installfest on May 24th.  And we need installers. :)
[04:28] <nhaines> For the installfest, we're only promoting Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  Anyone who comes in and asks for something else will get it, but otherwise they get Ubuntu.
[04:29] <AtomicSpark> nhaines: I am on the wiki/website currently. Where is this located?
[04:32] <nhaines> AtomicSpark: nowhere, although I do need to get it up on the wiki.
[04:32] <nhaines> AtomicSpark: this is going to be updated soon: http://www.oclug.org/installfest.html
[04:32] <darthrobot> Title: [OCLUG Installfest]
[04:33] <AtomicSpark> nhaines: What happens if, I don't have a portable pc anymore and just an android tablet? :p
[04:33] <nhaines> AtomicSpark: then you have to come and help.  :P
[04:43] <toddc> nhaines: use drive droid to install LINUX from a tablet
[04:44] <toddc> ERR AtomicSpark  sorry
[04:44] <arrith> pleia2: ping. sorry i haven't followed super closely about bkerensa goings-on; is there an installfest? or there might be one? (for LTS 14.04 release party celebration nacho slam extravaganza)
[04:44] <arrith> presented by pepsi(r)
[04:46] <philipballew> ohh action in the channel!
[04:48] <arrith> approaching cage-match-level actionnn
[04:48] <arrith> philipballew: are you going to the 14.04 sf parttyy?!
[04:49] <rww> arrith: last I heard it was in SF but not at Mozilla because we got a sponsor elsewhere before we heard back from Moz, but not 100%
[04:49] <rww> s/$/on whether that's correct
[04:50] <nhaines> AtomicSpark: anyway, installfests are pretty simple, but we definitely need a few more people.  If you've never done one before, I can show you the ropes.
[04:50] <arrith> "confirmed our release party at AdRoll "  was said earlier
[04:50] <nhaines> And we have an OCLUG meeting in April, so you can come in and see the location if you'd like.
[04:51] <arrith> not sure if it's too late to move from there to mozilla, or vice versa
[04:51] <nhaines> I'm planning to give a short presentation next month.
[04:51] <arrith> wonder if bkerensa works at moz
[04:51] <philipballew> arrith, Sure, if I had the money for a plane ticket.
[04:52] <arrith> philipballew: you're not in us-ca?
[04:52] <philipballew> arrith, Yes I am.
[04:52] <nhaines> arrith: California is the size of a small country.
[04:52] <philipballew> nhaines, +1
[04:52] <arrith> well the installfest isn't for a few days. :P
[04:52] <arrith> also $1 bus
[04:52] <philipballew> arrith, California is not just the bay, despite what they all claim there.
[04:52] <philipballew> arrith, No.
[04:52] <arrith> No.
[04:53] <philipballew> There is no one dollar bus to sf from there I live.
[04:53] <arrith> oh
[04:53] <rww> We don't claim it's all just the bay, that would break our complaining about y'all stealing our water.
[04:54] <philipballew> You get all your power from dams towards Nevada to.
[04:54] <philipballew> arrith, Where do you live?
[04:54] <arrith> philipballew: east bay, walnut creek area
[04:55] <philipballew> arrith, Oh cool. I was just in Fairfield last week.
[04:55] <arrith> ah nice. i'm actually super geographically challenged to the point that i have to google map all these cities on job postings to see if i'm actually okay with their commute
[04:55] <arrith> philipballew: what's tying you to not-the-bay?
[04:56] <philipballew> arrith, My friends, and school, and life.
[04:56] <arrith> philipballew: ah, so not much then :P
[04:56] <arrith> dang well
[04:56] <philipballew> arrith, I actually really like where I live.
[04:56] <arrith> hope you have an LTS party there. for the holiday spirit
[04:56] <arrith> that's good
[04:57]  * rww ponders recruiting for Ingress
[04:57] <philipballew> arrith, Planning on it actually. Probably more low key then yours up there, but were a more low key people down here.
[04:57] <philipballew> arrith, where you you from?
[04:58] <arrith> born n raised east bay. sometimes worry that not going too far from where you were born is a bad sign, but i love me some SV/SF
[04:58] <philipballew> Nice. I was born and raised in Auburn.
[04:59] <arrith> ah wow, definitely norcal
[04:59] <arrith> rww: if you mean the mobile game, i take it that's not really a paid position :P
[04:59] <philipballew> Above the fog, below the snow.
[05:00] <philipballew> arrith, Often I have to just tell people I am from Sac though.
[05:00] <arrith> yeah i stick to east bay, not many people know the smaller cities/towns
[05:01] <philipballew> arrith, for sure.
[05:01] <philipballew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAZ8jXYL-w
[05:01] <darthrobot> Title: [Middle Of The Road - Sacramento [HQ stereo] - YouTube]
[05:02] <rww> arrith: true, but it's fun!
[05:02] <rww> especially if you're Resistance :>
[05:02] <arrith> haha
[05:02] <philipballew> Auburn is fun if you like weed, or dirt bikes.
[05:03] <philipballew> Were the Reddest county in the state also.
[05:04] <rww> anyways, back to LoCo stuff...
[05:04] <arrith> haha wow
[05:04] <arrith> uhm
[05:05] <rww> AtomicSpark: go to installfest thing!
[05:05] <arrith> installfests could use a pxe server potentially. not sure if that's been done
[05:05] <rww> arrith: go to release party thing!
[05:05] <rww> yay, I am good at my leading thing
[05:05] <arrith> hail the leader
[05:05] <philipballew> arrith, If you come to my release party, I'll give you a dollar.
[05:05] <philipballew> maybe two!
[05:05]  * AtomicSpark strokes unix beard
[05:05] <rww> philipballew: you're having a release party?
[05:05] <philipballew> rww, Yes.
[05:05] <rww> philipballew: where?
[05:05] <arrith> philipballew: commuting for not-lots-of-money is tough for me
[05:06] <philipballew> either starbucks or INO rww
[05:06] <philipballew> probably ino.
[05:06] <rww> philipballew: I meant city, but okays :P
[05:06] <philipballew> rww, SD
[05:06] <arrith> i guess usb sticks are easier than router plus lots of ethernet cables
[05:06] <AtomicSpark> arrith: Yes.
[05:06] <arrith> and more people need to use stuff like 'plop' (boot cd thing that lets you then boot to usb on computers that don't boot to usb in the bios. but i guess it's closed src :( )
[05:06] <AtomicSpark> Also configuring a thing.
[05:07] <philipballew> I got some buddies from tj coming up to help out rww so it should be good.
[05:07] <arrith> AtomicSpark: yeah i guess it doesn't take that much longer to write an iso to a usb stick than pxe stuff
[05:07] <AtomicSpark> arrith: tbh, I'd just use a CD, works for everything.
[05:07] <arrith> AtomicSpark: ah yeah. i actually wonder what people use the most these days
[05:07] <arrith> would be awesome if canonical shipped out pressed stuff
[05:07] <rww> philipballew: can you throw details at the mailing list this week so people can plan for it?
[05:07] <arrith> score me some five-finger-discounted^Wfree swag
[05:08] <AtomicSpark> arrith: I still use CDs.
[05:08] <AtomicSpark> Though, didn't Ubuntu go DVD only?
[05:08] <philipballew> rww, I can set up an event, but I am gonna wait till two weeks from release to start tlking about it. People will forget.
[05:09] <rww> arrith: they do ship pressed stuff, we had some for Southern California Linux Expo :)
[05:09] <philipballew> maybe even a week.
[05:09] <arrith> rww: LTS only i thought?
[05:09] <philipballew> I only install Ubuntu via luetooth these days.
[05:09] <rww> philipballew: mention it now /and/ we'll be sending out an email with details for all three events week before/of
[05:09] <philipballew> bluetooth
[05:09] <nhaines> AtomicSpark: they're DVDs, which, by the way, we will have shipped out by Canonical.
[05:09] <nhaines> Which is a thing that they do.
[05:09] <arrith> AtomicSpark: oh yeah, i'm doing DVD only i guess. hm, actually i don't know how many computers that show up to installfests have CD drives or not
[05:09] <rww> arrith: correct
[05:10] <rww> philipballew: that way everyone's on the same page without reading through IRC, which most don't :)
[05:10] <philipballew> rww, I can make an event on the loco portal thursday night.
[05:10] <arrith> rww: think they'll have 14.04 pressed discs for the installfest?
[05:10] <philipballew> Maybe Wednesday night, but I have to run to Mexico for the night so we will see how long till  get back.
[05:10] <AtomicSpark> Remind me, does the Ubuntu installer have an option to use up-to-date packages during install? Would make pressed dvds have a longer shelf life.
[05:10] <rww> AtomicSpark: yes
[05:10] <AtomicSpark> I get paraoid about those minor releases.
[05:10] <philipballew> AtomicSpark, iirc, you can install updates when installing from cd
[05:11] <rww> arrith: ship time for pressed CDs is two weeks after release ( http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2014/03/13/14-04-dvdscds-pre-orders-now-open-for-verified-loco-teams/ )
[05:11] <darthrobot> Title: [Loco Council | 14.04 DVDs/CDs: Pre-Orders now open for verified LoCo Teams!]
[05:11]  * arrith falls to knees and shouts to the sky
[05:11] <jose> or what it takes to produce+ship, 2 weeks is just an estimate :)
[05:11] <rww> yep
[05:11] <rww> "not in time for installfest" was the main takeaway there
[05:11] <arrith> wow 150 and 25, that's not bad
[05:12] <philipballew> Fedora does flash drives
[05:12] <jose> oh :(
[05:12] <rww> nice
[05:12] <rww> wish we could, but money...
[05:12] <jose> when's the installfest?
[05:12] <jose> and customs ;)
[05:13] <rww> indeedy
[05:13] <arrith> hm
[05:13] <arrith> probably a way to get bulk inexpensive usb stuff. they have those paper ones even
[05:13] <rww> jose: don't think the LUG that's doing it made the date public yet, they're still sorting things out
[05:13] <philipballew> rww, Do I need to tell you or lyz I need cd's or is it assumed?
[05:14] <philipballew> what lug are we talking about?
[05:14] <jose> philipballew: a guy in SD asked me for DVDs via the loco-council ML and he said he was going to get to you
[05:14] <rww> philipballew: dunno, ask Lyz, she's been sorting out CD stuff I think
[05:14] <rww> philipballew: OCLUG. Might want to read meeting log when you get a chance :)
[05:14] <nhaines> Retail DVDs are cents a unit.  Bulk USB keys are dollars per unit.
[05:14] <philipballew> jose, someone emailed me looking for ubuntu events in sd.
[05:14] <jose> hmm
[05:14] <philipballew> I am emailing him back this week.
[05:14] <AtomicSpark> Unless you're in Australia.
[05:15] <nhaines> jose: we pushed the date back a month at your suggestion.  :P
[05:15] <jose> nhaines: you better announce the date in the channel, then?
[05:15] <jose> :P
[05:15] <philipballew> AtomicSpark, Not sure we can trust Australasia, their toilets flush the wrong way.
[05:15] <jose> philipballew: no, YOUR toilets flush the wrong way
[05:15] <rww> i don't even know what way my toilet flushes :(
[05:15] <nhaines> jose: I did, during the last meeting.  But it's going on the wiki soon.  The LUG hasn't announced the date yet.  :P
[05:16] <arrith> that can only be settled with thermonuclear war
[05:16] <philipballew> I have a friend who went to Kenya and they flush down with no swirl when you are right on the equator.
[05:16] <philipballew> arrith, si.
[05:16] <AtomicSpark> philipballew: Thats because of design flaw, not gravity.
[05:16] <AtomicSpark> rww: clockwise.
[05:16] <philipballew> AtomicSpark, clocks are overrated. I prefer the sun.
[05:17] <jose> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Murphy%27s_law_application_for_antigravitatory_cats
[05:17] <darthrobot> Title: [Murphy's law application for antigravitatory cats - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia]
[05:18] <philipballew> AtomicSpark, Wanna go to the down under with me?
[05:18] <philipballew> Lets go right now!
[05:18] <arrith> australian food is probably pretty good
[05:19] <philipballew> I actually wanna go to Perth. I let this dude I met on the internet sleep on my loor for a week who lives there.
[05:19] <arrith> they should have more australian restaurants. there are brazillian places around the bay area but not australian, that i've seen
[05:19] <arrith> philipballew: oh nice, quid pro quo
[05:19] <philipballew> I met a guy who said he would let me crash on his cargo ship for free if I work a little bit, and work a little bit for food.
[05:20] <philipballew> and he said after a month I would end up in Australasia.
[05:20] <nhaines> That sounds like the way cargo ships work.
[05:20] <philipballew> nhaines, Living within walking distance from a shipping harbor/port has its advantages.
[05:22] <philipballew> arrith, Does the city have austrillian food?
[05:22] <rww> what is australian food
[05:22] <arrith> philipballew: i'm not sure. haven't looked. taht sounds good though
[05:22] <rww> kangaroo?
[05:22] <nhaines> rww: crisps and boiled meats.
[05:23]  * philipballew just had a California burrito.
[05:23] <philipballew> ^ jose
[05:24] <jose> philipballew: I hate hate hate you
[05:24] <jose> I've been wanting a burrito since I left the US :(
[05:25] <philipballew> jose, so I should avoid tweeting about all the tacos I eat tomorrow in Tijuana?
[05:25] <nhaines> jose: you can always make one. :)
[05:25] <philipballew> jose, o, y mucho cervesa.
[05:25] <jose> philipballew: tacos are fine, burritos aren't
[05:25] <philipballew> burritos are bomb
[05:25] <jose> nhaines: still don't know how to make those awesome ones I had in SD
[05:25] <arrith> rww: mayybe
[05:25] <jose> philipballew: beer, well, I'm <18 fyi
[05:25] <arrith> you can import stuff
[05:26] <philipballew> jose, TIL Peru has a drinking age
[05:26] <arrith> this like one famous halal cart thing in NY i went to once is so good i keep thinking of paying some courier to pack one in ice and ship it to me. it'd be like $50 though and i can't justify that price
[05:26] <arrith> peru the land of the lawless has no laws!
[05:26] <nhaines> jose: tortilla, refried beans, maybe some rice, shredded cheese, guacamole.... meat-based protein as desired....  It's probably a pretty simple formula.  :)
[05:27] <arrith> chipotles are opening up everywhere now. probably will be one nearby soon
[05:27] <arrith> order from their site and send an intern to get it
[05:27] <philipballew> nhaines, Carne asada, queso, salsa, french fries.
[05:27] <nhaines> I would totally get the Döner Kebab place in Germany to throw one in a styrofoam container with dry ice and fly it over here.
[05:27] <arrith> don't let the intern get anything for themselves. they have to learn discipline
[05:27] <arrith> nhaines: $50!
[05:28] <jose> arrith: we do have a law that allows us to have up to 20 llamas in our backyard
[05:28] <philipballew> nhaines, I was in Germany last month and had a really good one of those.
[05:28] <nhaines> arrith: deal if I can buy it with bitcoin!
[05:28] <philipballew> they were the shit
[05:28] <arrith> nhaines: not when btc goes x50 in value
[05:28] <philipballew> Im gonna visit a bitcoin atm this weekend in my area.
[05:28] <nhaines> arrith: I'm only buying it now though.
[05:29] <arrith> Recent incidents have brought the currency under new regulatory scrutiny, such as the failure of Mt. Gox, a Tokyo-based exchange that filed for bankruptcy after losing an estimated $650 million worth of customer bitcoins.
[05:29] <arrith> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/25/us-bitcoin-irs-idUSBREA2O1LR20140325
[05:29] <darthrobot> Title: [Bitcoins are property, not currency, IRS says regarding taxes| Reuters]
[05:30] <philipballew> can I print out my bitcoins?
[05:30] <nhaines> philipballew: yes.
[05:30] <arrith> verifying that they're legit is another thing though
[05:31] <arrith> localbitcoins has a whole deal using text messages to confirm transfer of btc
[05:31] <arrith> not sure if it actually escrows
[05:31] <nhaines> arrith: it can escrow, yes.
[05:31] <philipballew> nhaines, interessant
[05:31] <jose> #!/usr/bin/python; print("out my bitcoins")
[05:32] <arrith> #!/usr/bin/env python
[05:32] <philipballew> "Siri print me some money"
[05:36] <nhaines> I'm really happy that I agreed to update the OCLUG installfest page with the installfest date but it doesn't actually have one.
[05:36] <nhaines> It's like free work.
[16:43] <pleia2> arrith: we won't be doing an installfest at the party, the party will just be a gathering to learn about the new release and eat pizza for a couple hours, an installfest requires a lot more time and volunteers
[16:44] <pleia2> I won't do an installfest for less than 5 hours these days, there are always installation issues and we get stuck staying forever, not something for a thursday night :)
[16:45] <pleia2> as for DVD shipping, we'll do the same as we've done in the past, when they arrive I'll email the list and ask which regions need them, ie: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-October/002054.html
[16:45] <darthrobot> Title: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Fwd: DVDs For LoCo Teams]
[17:10] <bkerensa> arrith: I do not
[17:12] <bkerensa> pleia2: so let me know if you have any issues William will be able to help get you guys setup
[17:13] <bkerensa> we have beverages and some snacks on site
[17:13] <bkerensa> depending on when it is we could probably order pizzas too
[17:13] <pleia2> yeah, I'll let you know if adroll doesn't work out :)
[17:14] <bkerensa> for the installfest
[17:14] <pleia2> oh good
[17:14] <pleia2> I need to convince someone to run it, I'm way too overbooked
[17:14] <bkerensa> I know that feeling
[17:14] <pleia2> I can attend, but coordinating another event.. :\
[17:14] <bkerensa> how do you reverse the overbooked feeling?
[17:14] <bkerensa> :D
[17:14] <pleia2> learn how to say "no" :)
[17:14] <pleia2> let me know how that goes
[17:14] <pleia2> hehe