| Jeff_Mitchell_Xu | I'm running Xubuntu beta 2, and I joined launchpad. It says: "no open bugs". What am I meant to do? | 00:22 |
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| === Jeff_Mitchell_Xu is now known as jeff_xubuntu | ||
| brainwash | jeff_xubuntu: hey, where exactly does it say "no open bugs"? | 00:28 |
| jeff_xubuntu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers | 00:29 |
| jeff_xubuntu | Then click the "bugs" tab. Don't tell me I'm in the wrong place lol I'm such a noob even though I've used linux for six years. | 00:30 |
| brainwash | this team does not seem to be subscribed to any reports | 00:31 |
| brainwash | the xubuntu bugs team on the other hand is | 00:32 |
| brainwash | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-bugs/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 | 00:32 |
| knome | jeff_xubuntu, what are you looking for? | 00:33 |
| brainwash | but this list of bugs isn't that helpful right now | 00:33 |
| brainwash | please take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs | 00:33 |
| jeff_xubuntu | thanks! | 00:33 |
| knome | or a list of bugs reported against the beta2 in the ISO tracker | 00:33 |
| knome | jeff_xubuntu, are you looking at ISO testing, or package testing, or something different? | 00:55 |
| jeff_xubuntu | ISO testing, I'm running Xubuntu beta 2 right now | 00:55 |
| knome | ok, | 00:55 |
| knome | so the ISO testing basically means you would need to *install* a system | 00:55 |
| knome | the reports are sent to this tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 00:55 |
| knome | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/313/builds | 00:56 |
| knome | that's the URL for beta 2 builds | 00:56 |
| jeff_xubuntu | I think I should refer to the Ubuntu testing documentation. I looked through the Xubuntu website and didn't find anything, then I though, oh right, all the documentation is on the Ubuntu website, not Xubuntu website. | 00:56 |
| jeff_xubuntu | *thought | 00:56 |
| knome | let me see... | 00:56 |
| knome | right... the website can be a bit ambiguous | 00:57 |
| jeff_xubuntu | ah I see http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases | 00:57 |
| knome | yes.. that's the packages tracker | 00:57 |
| jeff_xubuntu | Ristretto has heaps of bugs I'll look at that. I think I'll cook some food first... back later | 00:58 |
| knome | ok, bon appetit | 00:58 |
| brainwash | knome: can you unhide https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292025 please? | 01:07 |
| ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 1292025 not found | 01:07 |
| brainwash | ristretto segfault | 01:07 |
| knome | done | 01:09 |
| brainwash | thanks | 01:09 |
| bluesabre0 | anybody experiencing the parole dvd-playback issues, please try out this commit | 02:11 |
| bluesabre0 | http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/commit/?id=62f3b404a41bdce368fd3777328c966f87b860f4 | 02:11 |
| bluesabre0 | Unit193: still have two dvd drives? | 02:17 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: Never did. | 02:17 |
| bluesabre0 | oh, I thought you had filed some bug regarding that | 02:17 |
| bluesabre0 | nvm then :) | 02:17 |
| Unit193 | No, I did file the bug though. | 02:19 |
| Unit193 | lp 1098323 | 02:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1098323 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole failes to play DVD" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098323 | 02:20 |
| bluesabre0 | tricksy ukikies | 02:20 |
| bluesabre0 | this commit may fix that too | 02:22 |
| bluesabre0 | at least partially | 02:22 |
| Unit193 | I no longer even have /dev/dvd2, just /dev/cdrom which is a symlink to /dev/sr0, which is a DVD drive. | 02:22 |
| bluesabre0 | I'll do some testing later with an external drive, but I'm happy to have one thing seemingly resolved | 02:25 |
| Unit193 | Soo, that commit looks a tad hacky, is it actully? | 02:26 |
| bluesabre0 | sort of | 02:30 |
| bluesabre0 | :) | 02:30 |
| bluesabre0 | before, it was using "dvd:/" | 02:30 |
| bluesabre0 | which auto-detects the device based on the URI | 02:31 |
| bluesabre0 | now it uses "dvd:///dev/sr0" or whatever the unix device is | 02:31 |
| bluesabre0 | tested several variations with parole and vlc to figure out what is accepted | 02:32 |
| bluesabre0 | the previous thing only worked with /dev/dvd0 or something along those lines | 02:33 |
| bluesabre0 | which caused other issues when that path went away | 02:33 |
| bluesabre0 | (and still is an issue for totem, last I checked) | 02:34 |
| === AussieDownUnder is now known as newnick | ||
| === newnick is now known as CyborgCygnus | ||
| elfy | is whiskermenu supposed to stay alphabetical - adding apps - they just get put to the end of the list they end up in | 09:19 |
| bluesabre0 | elfy: for it to not be alphabetical, enable the setting "Show menu hierarchy" in the whisker settigs | 09:51 |
| elfy | aah cool | 09:54 |
| ochosi | bluesabre0: what did you think about making xfce4-powerman aware of the session setting? | 10:22 |
| ochosi | just to keep those two in sync | 10:22 |
| ochosi | either let them use the same xfconf-key | 10:22 |
| ochosi | (the one of session, i suppose) | 10:22 |
| ochosi | or just patch xfce4-powerman to check that setting and stay in sync | 10:23 |
| ochosi | then obviously light-locker-settings would also need a patch to stay in sync | 10:23 |
| ochosi | (the lid-lock behavior is obviously another level of complexity, but the user will have to handle that) | 10:23 |
| bluesabre0 | ochosi: yeah, that sounds ideal | 10:30 |
| ochosi | it shouldn't be too hard to code that, just means adding a check for another xfconf key | 10:31 |
| ochosi | although i dunno what should happen if the key in -session doesn't exist yet (should it be created then? or do we have to check whether xfce4-session is in use/installed?) | 10:32 |
| CyborgCygnus | bluesabre0, elfy, sweet I was wondering why I had to drag & drop the apps in the order I wanted, rather than have like an alphabetical order. | 10:38 |
| bluesabre0 | yeah, there's a bit of implementation we'll need to consider | 10:39 |
| bluesabre0 | CyborgCygnus, glad I could help :) | 10:39 |
| CyborgCygnus | bluesabre0, except nothing really happens when I turn it on or off, nothing re orders it self. I'll just remember for when the stable release comes out as I suspect it will run better than this install I have going. | 10:40 |
| bluesabre0 | yeah, there might be some old configs, or it might need to be refreshed or something | 10:41 |
| bluesabre0 | I'll check into that | 10:41 |
| CyborgCygnus | bluesabre0, I've been updating almost daily from the alpha, I noticed the other day when I chucked a daily image on a usb & ran it live that it had a noticeable amount of differences in it, stuff ran better. | 10:44 |
| bluesabre0 | ah | 10:44 |
| bluesabre0 | if you're updating and want to check some new things without changing your current settings, you can probably log into the guest session to see what's what | 10:45 |
| CyborgCygnus | I stuffed my install up anyway, I had it on the first partition of a drive, deleted two other o/s's off using gparted & updated the grub, now it boots real sluggish & comes up with errors, I just ignore it cause I know I'll never be able to fix it. I just play with this as it is & am waiting for stable release. | 10:45 |
| CyborgCygnus | bluesabre0, ah okay, good idea. I have no idea how to refresh configs etc, someone told me before how to do it for the saved startup sessions but I can't remember things when I only use them once. | 10:46 |
| starrats | Help, was just on launchpad.net to report a bug, brainwash recommended me to do this but I cannot find on that site where to report a bug. | 10:52 |
| slickymasterWork | starrats: against what package do you want to fil the bug? | 10:54 |
| knome | lderan, tell me if you need help/feedback or anything regarding bots, and i can then join #ubuntu-bots if needed | 10:56 |
| starrats | the bug I want to report is that mu cursor/pointer freezes up at the logon/password screen at start-up. I have reported this same bug numerous times and have trid things that brainwash has suggested all have failed. | 10:59 |
| starrats | trid - tried | 11:00 |
| knome | rather than file it numerous times, please expand the original bug report... | 11:00 |
| CyborgCygnus | starrats, Install a daily image over your current? | 11:01 |
| CyborgCygnus | starrats, I have problems with my Alpha 14.04 that I've updated to the daily, I worked out a fresh image fixes that. | 11:02 |
| starrats | daily image? expand the bug report? first one I don't understand and the second one I have expanded the original report | 11:06 |
| elfy | reinstall with a new daily | 11:07 |
| knome | starrats, first one refers to the latest daily image, or in this case, the beta2 image; new images are built every day except during milestones | 11:07 |
| knome | starrats, latter: good (that's not you said though) | 11:07 |
| elfy | morning knome | 11:09 |
| slickymasterWork | morning knome | 11:10 |
| knome | everything in order in QA and docs? | 11:11 |
| starrats | knome I have told everything to brainwash after I filed a ubuntu-bug report on term and that's when he told me to try a couple of things, that did not work and then he suggested for me to go to #ubuntu+1 channel and tell them my problems, got very little help there, told that to brainwash and he told me to report the bug on launchpad. I tied to this morning and I could not find the where to report | 11:11 |
| starrats | this bug. | 11:11 |
| knome | starrats, right, then wait patiently | 11:12 |
| knome | starrats, there's not much else we have to give you except one of our bug triagers helping you | 11:12 |
| knome | "we have" meaning, there isn't much more things we can do to help you | 11:12 |
| knome | if others are unable to reproduce the issue, it's even harder to get anything fixed | 11:13 |
| starrats | I have been very patient with everyone, I thought I had this freezing thing defeated per se because i had days with out this problem and now the last three days it has reared it's ugly little head again. | 11:13 |
| knome | so what is the original bug number? | 11:14 |
| starrats | I have a toshiba laptop running a dual partition with windows 7 and xubuntu 14.04 | 11:15 |
| starrats | will try to find the orig. bug report. | 11:15 |
| starrats | I could not locate original bug report# but here's the Question# 245333 sent to me by Manfred Hampl concerning this problem which was on 3/12/2014 | 11:32 |
| elfy | starrats: just go to your LP page - then click bugs - then you'll see bugs you've done something to | 11:35 |
| elfy | in the top right there are options to specify - pick reported | 11:35 |
| starrats | okay | 11:36 |
| starrats | Could not locate my report because I believe it was an additional comment on the question I said above, but there was a sdimilar one on 12.04 version about the same issue I'm having now. | 11:45 |
| elfy | no idea then | 11:46 |
| elfy | and have you tried using a different mouse? | 11:46 |
| elfy | tbh - I would just reinstall with a new daily and be done with it | 11:46 |
| starrats | I did try to file a ubuntu-bug report from term but I did not have output of problem I just typed ubuntu-but and clicked on theXorg box and went from there. | 11:47 |
| starrats | I will do the same if necessary | 11:47 |
| elfy | and as people have said if they can't replicate it - or it is in fact something to do with your hardware it will just sit there | 11:48 |
| starrats | well I don't know how to change my hardware | 11:49 |
| starrats | so I just take it that this is irrepairable? | 11:50 |
| starrats | left in the dark on it | 11:50 |
| elfy | you don't know how to change a mouse? or is it a laptop? | 11:51 |
| starrats | a laptop | 11:56 |
| elfy | so I would download a new image and reinstall then | 11:56 |
| starrats | beginning of the month will buy a usb mouse, the one I have doesn't work, tried numerous times | 11:57 |
| starrats | a new image = a new dvd of Trusty Tahr? | 11:58 |
| elfy | yep | 11:59 |
| starrats | okay one question I have on this, are all the updates/upgrades/dist-upgrades be on this new download of the image or would i have to do all that i have done all over again? | 12:01 |
| elfy | no - you wouldn't be downloading all the updates again | 12:01 |
| starrats | or should I say will the new image have that from all the work you folks have done to truty tahr | 12:02 |
| elfy | it will be as up to date as it can be | 12:02 |
| starrats | okay I will download and burn a new image of trusty tahr | 12:02 |
| starrats | and re-install | 12:02 |
| starrats | ah ok | 12:03 |
| elfy | back up data if you have any | 12:03 |
| starrats | alright got to do other things | 12:03 |
| starrats | bbl | 12:03 |
| elfy | cya | 12:03 |
| starrats | good morning everyone | 13:08 |
| elfy | good afternoon starrats | 13:11 |
| starrats | elfy did you see what I did about my cursor on offtopic channel? | 13:13 |
| elfy | I did | 13:13 |
| starrats | and good morning to you again | 13:13 |
| elfy | :) | 13:14 |
| starrats | okay got my fingers crossed that this will work all the time but 2 times with a windows update between I feel confident | 13:14 |
| elfy | it couldn't have been reinstalling xubuntu-desktop unless something else got reinstalled at the same time though | 13:15 |
| starrats | well the output from term if I can remember right was words to the effect that xubuntu desktop 2.179 installed | 13:18 |
| elfy | mmm | 13:18 |
| starrats | I could run the command again, don't know if it would do anything or ? | 13:18 |
| elfy | just wait and see :) | 13:19 |
| starrats | will do | 13:20 |
| starrats | :) | 13:20 |
| starrats | elfy I was going to download.burn a new image as we chatted about earlier but after all the windows & updates were done and I had a chance to restart before putting my pw for windows, itook a chance and restarted and went to the xubuntu line and on the frozen cursor was free the second time so right now I'm back here and feelinng a little better | 13:23 |
| elfy | oh hang on | 13:31 |
| elfy | do you get this issue at the grub screen? | 13:31 |
| elfy | http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_new_2/grub2-dual-boot-in-grub2.png | 13:32 |
| knome | elfy, any tests you'd like me to run? | 16:13 |
| elfy | if you could do some 64bit that would be awesome - and possibly a cli upgrade or two? | 16:14 |
| knome | meh, :) | 16:14 |
| elfy | :) | 16:14 |
| knome | i mean, i can do upgrades, but they are clean upgrades then | 16:14 |
| elfy | yea I know | 16:14 |
| knome | i can at least take some of the 64-bit | 16:14 |
| elfy | I'm in the same position | 16:14 |
| knome | who wouldn't... | 16:15 |
| knome | i can take at least any two of the 64bit ones | 16:15 |
| elfy | I'll be able to do some hardware 64bit later - what I won't be doing there is the entire disk | 16:15 |
| knome | plus the post-install one | 16:15 |
| knome | okay, i'll do that at least then | 16:15 |
| knome | i can also do auto-resize | 16:16 |
| elfy | how about entire and that one :p | 16:16 |
| knome | if you prefer manual partitioning | 16:16 |
| knome | yep, that works for me | 16:16 |
| knome | and the post-install | 16:16 |
| elfy | well - I odn't want to fubar what's on the machine | 16:16 |
| knome | yeah i understand | 16:16 |
| elfy | we got 17 done with yesterdays image | 16:17 |
| knome | cool | 16:17 |
| knome | let's see how much i need to zsync | 16:17 |
| elfy | I did do a couple of vm upgrades but what we really need is real ones - not so easy to get people to do :) | 16:17 |
| knome | 32% | 16:18 |
| elfy | you've got 32% or you need 32% :) | 16:18 |
| knome | need | 16:18 |
| knome | but any is ok | 16:19 |
| elfy | yep | 16:19 |
| knome | downloading at 1050 kB/s | 16:19 |
| knome | hmm | 16:21 |
| knome | bug 1231520 | 16:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1231520 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Desktop image ignores installation language setting for locale" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231520 | 16:21 |
| knome | might be related to your keyboard bug | 16:21 |
| elfy | could be | 16:26 |
| elfy | not sure about labelling my issue as ubiquity - it will never get looked at then :) | 16:29 |
| knome | heh :) | 16:29 |
| knome | depends, if you know who to ask... | 16:29 |
| elfy | well I don't know anyone, I'm deeply cynical about bugs if they don't affect ubuntu | 16:30 |
| knome | mhm | 16:31 |
| knome | dinner, bbiab | 16:31 |
| elfy | mmm | 16:31 |
| elfy | hi slickymaster | 16:36 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: even | 16:37 |
| slickymasterWork | hey elfy | 16:44 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: I'd not actually fail those for those bugs - in fact I didn't :p | 17:15 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy: are you referring to the debian wallpaper and the xfce4 one? | 17:16 |
| elfy | yea | 17:16 |
| slickymasterWork | I can change the result to 'Passed', still keeping the bugs if you think it's preferable | 17:17 |
| elfy | that's what I did | 17:17 |
| elfy | but if you want to fail them be my guest :) | 17:17 |
| slickymasterWork | and that's what I'm about to do ;) | 17:17 |
| elfy | lol | 17:17 |
| slickymasterWork | no, I do see the logic in your reasoning | 17:18 |
| slickymasterWork | done | 17:20 |
| ochosi | brainwash: ping | 17:22 |
| ochosi | brainwash: could you please give this a test-run? fixes the xfdesktop-style-issue for me: https://github.com/EricKoegel/xfdesktop/commit/31a6f3520565bd59701c78e5e030e113eea7f406 | 17:24 |
| knome | elfy, ran and reported those two testcases and noticed i can't do much about the post-installation one | 17:47 |
| elfy | yep - thanks :) | 17:49 |
| elfy | they're respinning I think - so we'll get another blank sheet | 17:49 |
| elfy | I'd done the post install one | 17:50 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I'll test it, the patch seems to revert the previous commit | 18:44 |
| brainwash | there is a small difference, but I'm pretty sure that it will work :) | 18:45 |
| brainwash | bug 1297170 | 18:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1297170 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Live Session starts with XFCE wallpaper/install uses same" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297170 | 18:56 |
| brainwash | low priority? :D | 18:56 |
| brainwash | who is this guy? he seems to change the priority of many xfce/xubuntu related reports | 18:57 |
| knome | apparently somebody who works for the one hundred papercuts project | 18:59 |
| knome | at least he is argumenting the reason why he set a specific priority | 19:00 |
| brainwash | true | 19:10 |
| brainwash | so I've built abiword with the backported patches for the stable branch + my simply patch to fix the icon in the about dialog | 19:16 |
| brainwash | https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test | 19:16 |
| brainwash | tested and it works | 19:16 |
| brainwash | woops, "my simple patch" | 19:17 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: any news regarding an possible abiword bug fix release | 19:18 |
| elfy | brainwash: talking of bugs - can you not mark testcase ones as dupes :) | 19:22 |
| brainwash | elfy: that one was marked as invalid first | 19:23 |
| elfy | I know - I marked it :) | 19:23 |
| elfy | just putting my marker down :) | 19:24 |
| brainwash | it's technically a dupe then.. or not? | 19:24 |
| elfy | not really - if something is wrong with a testcase - 9 times out of 10 there is | 19:25 |
| brainwash | but marked as invalid | 19:26 |
| elfy | sigh | 19:27 |
| elfy | that's beside the point - please don't mark our testcase bugs | 19:27 |
| brainwash | ok | 19:28 |
| elfy | thanks :) | 19:28 |
| elfy | that papercut guy does that a lot then gets involved in arguing stuff | 19:29 |
| elfy | did the same when asked not to spam qa mailing lists with bunches of emoti's or something | 19:29 |
| elfy | new 64bit image is 14% different from this morning it seems | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Simple, he uses unity/ubuntu, Xfce/Xubuntu is low priority when it comes to that. :P | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | elfy: I presume anytime now is good for upgrades, alrighty. | 19:32 |
| elfy | just been respun | 19:32 |
| Unit193 | Upgrades don't get respun. ;) | 19:32 |
| elfy | cli ones don't | 19:33 |
| elfy | I'm too tired for semantic arguments | 19:33 |
| brainwash | Unit193: maybe, sometimes it seems like he doesn't know what's going on in the Xubuntu/Xfce universe | 19:33 |
| brainwash | and the papercuts project guys don't seem to help us that much, or even at all | 19:35 |
| elfy | it's about marking things if you ask me | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, I've heard nothing more | 19:38 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: should we just pick the 2 patches and release an upgrade? | 19:43 |
| jhenke | hi | 19:51 |
| Noskcaj | hey jhenke | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | kitty! | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | Hmm? | 20:20 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: Oh, oh, oh! You'd approve of my shirt! | 20:20 |
| pleia2 | doing iso testing, slideshow | 20:20 |
| Unit193 | http://www.amazon.com/T-Shirt-Firefly-Curse-Sudden-Betrayal/dp/B00EYXAQJE <-- like that! | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | Ahh. | 20:21 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: abiword -> https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test | 20:32 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, Are you able to package to yourself or do you want me to? | 20:33 |
| Noskcaj | *it | 20:33 |
| brainwash | I've just built it to test it (let it test) | 20:34 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 20:34 |
| brainwash | I doubt that I know how to properly do it (patch names, changelog entries,..) | 20:35 |
| Noskcaj | also, it could be worthwhile just packaging upstream git | 20:35 |
| brainwash | yes, indeed | 20:35 |
| brainwash | it's actually svn with a read-only git mirror | 20:36 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 20:36 |
| brainwash | the debian package installs the abiword.png into the /usr/share/pixmaps folder | 20:37 |
| brainwash | fedora and arch don't do that | 20:37 |
| brainwash | the install it into the according icon folder | 20:38 |
| brainwash | -> usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/abiword.png | 20:39 |
| brainwash | so the icon is not displayed in abiword's about dialog on debian/ubuntu system | 20:46 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, Probably worth fixing, maybe email the debian maintainer about it | 20:58 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: Know if the python-parsedatetime problem is fixed, or is going to be fixed? | 20:59 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, I've not heard anything more | 21:01 |
| Noskcaj | You could always package the new version for it and pyicu | 21:01 |
| Noskcaj | I would, but i've got a heap of gnome stuff and homework (to ignore) | 21:02 |
| Unit193 | apt-mark hold python-parsedatetime is easier. Sure, was just asking if you knew more. | 21:02 |
| Noskcaj | Is anyone able to test the new alacarte release for me? | 21:11 |
| Unit193 | We have menulibre now. | 21:11 |
| Noskcaj | i know | 21:12 |
| jhenke | good night guys | 21:53 |
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